“I Thought He Had Some Of The Same Attributes As Matt Ryan”
January 13th, 2015
New Bucs offensive coordinator Dirk Koetter weighs in.
It’s champagne time for the Mike Glennon Mob!
Asked about the current Bucs quarterbacks today, new Bucs offensive coordinator Dirk Koetter said “I haven’t dug into the tape yet.” It was hardly a ringing in endorsement.
“When Tampa drafted Mike, I’ve watched Mike from afar, from the other side of the ball here in Atlanta.” Koetter said. “You know, from a far I thought he had some of the same attributes as Matt Ryan. But that’s me looking at it from the outside. Until I get on the inside and look at the tape and spend some time with those guys, I can’t give you much more than that.”
Whoa! That’s the Bucs’ new offensive general talking.
January 13th, 2015 at 4:36 pm
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January 13th, 2015 at 4:46 pm
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January 13th, 2015 at 4:46 pm
QB of the future? Maybe…
Mariota can’t even beat Ohio State in his hodge podge system… What make you think Mariota could even beat the Bills or Jaguars if he can’t beat the B1G?
January 13th, 2015 at 4:46 pm
MGM lives!!!!!
MG is easily good for 8-10 wins with a decent OL, OC and defense.
and it’s up, up and away from there.
there gonna trade that 1st pick!!!
January 13th, 2015 at 4:48 pm
I hope Glennon is ready come November, you know when “real” football starts.
Hey Lovie Dovie, should “real” fans not tune in until next Nov. Fix it now!
January 13th, 2015 at 4:49 pm
Queue: “The Kevin” with hatred.
What say you, Buccaneer Bonzai? Are you going to disagree with our OC?
January 13th, 2015 at 4:49 pm
Oh my no draft winston now!!
January 13th, 2015 at 4:51 pm
@SteveK
FOUR experts on the ESPN NFL show pointed out that you simply can’t take away all the weapons Mariota lost this year and be effective against a great team like Ohio State.
He lost a total of four receivers, at least one of which is touted as an NFL prospect and he had no running game.
January 13th, 2015 at 4:52 pm
I thought he had some of the same attributes as Matt Ryan?
and this is the guy we hired……now im afraid, we can’t find anyone who knows how to evaluate talent
January 13th, 2015 at 4:53 pm
St. Pete Bucs Fan,
Good points. What makes you think Mariota would’ve done better than Glennon this past year?
IMO, Mike Glennon is the best QB to be drafted since Russell Wilson’s name was called in the 3rd round of 2012.
January 13th, 2015 at 4:55 pm
Singing… Mike Mike He’s our man If he can’t do it nobody can.. 🙂
January 13th, 2015 at 4:56 pm
I would not be surprised if Williams is the pick in April. If the Bucs can grab Pierre Thomas and some safety help, that Defense will be on its way to bring dominant once again. And the way Glennon was handled and not playing at the end of the year was peculiar.
January 13th, 2015 at 4:59 pm
Nothing against the MGM but I really don’t see anything that special about Mike Glennon. I certainly don’t see any IT factor. Let’s just hope this is being said to drive up MG8’s trade value.
January 13th, 2015 at 5:00 pm
Impossible to pass judgement on Glennon….too much disfunction around him…
January 13th, 2015 at 5:01 pm
I’m still convinced that Glennon was being punished for violating one of Lovie’s strict rules about divulging anything to the media without it going through him.
If you remember it was a Tuesday afternoon when Glennon got on a local radio station a announced that he was being benched.
I am positive that that upset Lovie to no end.
January 13th, 2015 at 5:01 pm
Here’s a thought. What if Joe and the MGM both got what they want.
We draft one of the Heismans and plan on him sitting a year while MG8 gets his shot.
It could end up like the San Diego deal when they drafted Rivers despite already having Brees. Maybe MG8 plays pretty well but the Heisman beats him out in 2016 and we get a boatload back for what would then be a starting QB.
Yeah I see where my analogy falls apart. Hard to know whether Jameis or Marcus will be as good as Rivers and it’s clear MG8 is no Brees!!!!
Still the same concept however.
January 13th, 2015 at 5:04 pm
@steve k
My hatred is towards this horrible fan base that just wants to bash the heck out of anything the bucs do.
Couldn’t wait to run shiano out of town and then a year later comes on here and wishes for him back.
Praised the lovie hiring and because they didn’t perform well now everyone wants everybody fired again.
Half the dang problem is all the turnover. It doesn’t matter what moves the bucs make these losers come in here and just bash bash bash as if they know anything at all. I’m a real fan and I suppot my team no matter what. I have since 1987.
Not every move pans out for any team. People blindly bash lovie and offer no replacement just fire fire fire everybody. And when they do they bash the next guy and so on and so on. Can’t even have a half way intelligent argument with these idiots.
Ask buccaneerbonzai he will confirm what I’m saying.
January 13th, 2015 at 5:08 pm
@StPeteBucsFan, I thought of that very same thing like I was saying earlier today there is more than just MM vs Winston to think about..
January 13th, 2015 at 5:09 pm
MGM
January 13th, 2015 at 5:09 pm
This is nothing at this point….it could be simply an attempt to keep all options open including keeping Glennon or trading him.
Glennon is at least a serviceable backup for any team…..he has two years of a cheap contract remaining….is young and protects the ball pretty well…..perhaps he can play well for the right team.
I have maintained that we may already have a tentative trade deal for Glennon with Arizona or even St. Louis….that is why he didin’t hit the field late in the season.
January 13th, 2015 at 5:12 pm
Well if they plan on trading him you wouldn’t want to trash the guy.
But that must have been real real afar.
Shirley they didn’t tank the last game to have their pick of O-lineman or D-lineman, that they could get of equal value at number three or four.
And not have to pay them number one pick in the draft money.
January 13th, 2015 at 5:12 pm
It’s NOT that MG8 is great it’s just that he’s the best we have right now. Simple as that.
January 13th, 2015 at 5:14 pm
@St PeteBucsFan
Very sound logic. We get a Heisman Trophy QB and give MG8 yet another “kick at the can”. MG8 is one lucky man. 1st he gets picked in the 3rd round by a coach that was infatuated with him. Now he’ll be in his 3rd year still getting another opportunity to be the starting QB. Must have some excellent karma.
January 13th, 2015 at 5:15 pm
@DB55,, Agree and lets draft a QB and have some QB competition unlike what happened last year..
January 13th, 2015 at 5:18 pm
Lovie’s gonna convince himself he can make the playoffs with Glennon or McCown as QB, because once he gets to look at Leonard Williams and Randy Gregory he’s going to lust for them waaaay harder than a QB. Lovie can’t do anything with a QB. But a big time lineman? Lovie gets hard at the thought.
January 13th, 2015 at 5:20 pm
“TheKevin” Says:
January 13th, 2015 at 5:04 pm
@steve k
My hatred is towards this horrible fan base that just wants to bash the heck out of anything the bucs do.
Couldn’t wait to run shiano out of town and then a year later comes on here and wishes for him back.
Praised the lovie hiring and because they didn’t perform well now everyone wants everybody fired again.
Half the dang problem is all the turnover. It doesn’t matter what moves the bucs make these losers come in here and just bash bash bash as if they know anything at all. I’m a real fan and I suppot my team no matter what. I have since 1987.
Not every move pans out for any team. People blindly bash lovie and offer no replacement just fire fire fire everybody. And when they do they bash the next guy and so on and so on. Can’t even have a half way intelligent argument with these idiots.
Ask buccaneerbonzai he will confirm what I’m saying.
***THIS^^^ is exactly why I stay away from the comment section here and The Red Boards. I can’t stand most of my fellow Buc fans.
Draft Jameis!!
January 13th, 2015 at 5:21 pm
This is going to be the longest offseason until the draft.. Can’t wait to see what really happens..
January 13th, 2015 at 5:22 pm
Glennon had his chance and failed miserably. Stop with the excuses Glennon is a loser and his win / loss record is proof. The objective is to win not come up with excuses for mediocre backup. Fastest way for lovie to lose his job is to play either McCown or Glennon next year
Draft Winston
January 13th, 2015 at 5:22 pm
I have to say I like his “frankness” no BS.
January 13th, 2015 at 5:27 pm
MG8 is still the best QB on the roster and still the best QB drafted since 3rd round in 2012. MGM lives!!!!!
The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; The Realist adjusts the sails.
January 13th, 2015 at 5:28 pm
Like arms legs and a long neck…
January 13th, 2015 at 5:31 pm
@tmaxcon, I would say the coaches failed glennon more than the other way around, He is a back up and did his job not like you say failed miserably, He handled it ok, just like DB55 said he is not great just the best we got right now and drafting MM or Winston and throwing them in there on day one may not be wise.. Lets have some real QB competition and find out and play the best QB.. Rookie may need a learning curve..
January 13th, 2015 at 5:34 pm
Oh and I think if we draft a QB lovie has two more years as long as we show improvement this year and that should be real easy..
January 13th, 2015 at 5:36 pm
There is a difference between, “I thought he had” and “I think he has”
January 13th, 2015 at 5:38 pm
well, he’s either the next matt ryan (koetter) or the next drew brees (payton). either way, he is the QB of the future (lovie). now we just need an opinion from a Panthers coach and we can complete the NFC South insanely optimistic coachspeak 4-way on Mike Glennon
January 13th, 2015 at 5:41 pm
I still think we draft a QB & try to trade Glennon….this is the time…..several recent QBs not working out…..Manuel, Geno Smith…..weak draft for QBs….likely only 2 in the first round…..many teams in need.
You heard it here……Glennon will fetch a 2nd or 3rd rounder or we should keep him.
January 13th, 2015 at 5:47 pm
I wouldn’t choose or not choose Mariota by how he fared against my Buckeyes…just like I wouldnt judge Winston on how he fared against Oregon! You have to consider the entire body of work, not just the most recent performance. I see a lot of skill in Winston, but I see the same in Mariota. Winston may have the bigger arm, but Mariota seems to make fewer mistakes….which one has the intelligence and aptitude to be able to read defenses and make better throws is the question that NFL types ask. I can see the skills in both these players, but I also see a lot of questions about Winstons maturity and behavior….I don’t see those same problems with MM. In the end, sometimes teams make the safer choice because so much is riding on the line.
January 13th, 2015 at 5:48 pm
SteveK Says:
January 13th, 2015 at 4:46 pm
QB of the future? Maybe…
Mariota can’t even beat Ohio State in his hodge podge system… What make you think Mariota could even beat the Bills or Jaguars if he can’t beat the B1G?
Minus 2 starting receivers, no running game a defense that couldn’t stop the running game he was their bright spot. Nice educated post though. And to think Winston got killed by Oregon so devote Lu don’t draft h! Smh
January 13th, 2015 at 5:59 pm
I see love trading down 2 spots and drafting Leonard Williams
January 13th, 2015 at 6:02 pm
Play Glennon, Take Jones if he comes out in 2/3rd round.
I think Jones has more potential than Winston and I said so long before he started a game for ohio state.
Trouble is Joe, you get guys commenting without research and just jump on bandwagons.
January 13th, 2015 at 6:11 pm
I’ll believe MG is going to be the Bucs starter when I see it happen. It is tough not knowing what to believe, but the possibility has been spoken and the responses are mostly favorable. If I could insert a smiley face I would.
January 13th, 2015 at 6:18 pm
@passthebuc
“you get guys commenting without research and just jump on bandwagons.”
Exactly. And BOTH Marcus and Jameis have been hyped to the heavens. It’s baked into the system.
I haven’t worked in the media for 20 years and even back then there was pervasive promotion of Heisman Candidates. Every August my mailbox would be full of fancy flyers touting this or that candidate. If a school had a kid with a shot at a Heisman and their SID didn’t send out this stuff the poor SID would have lost his gig.
I can only imagine what it’s like now. This past August every sports media outlet in the nation got all kinds of crap touting Marcus/Jameis/Gordon and the rest. This coming August I’d bet the farm that Connor Cook promotion will be incredibly heavy. MSU will provide all the reasons Cook is great and deserves the Heisman. That’s what happens when you run a popularity contest.
The Heisman is nothing more than a very elaborate popularity contest. Think Joe Flacco ever had a shot at a Heisman at Delaware. I’m sure their poor SID tried but Delaware is just too small. Kind of like all the sucko all star teams that fans pick.
January 13th, 2015 at 6:21 pm
BTW I just realized I can imagine how it is now. Just go on youtube and you’ll see a lot of the promotional videos. That’s what is being sent to every TV station, newspaper, sports talk station and blogs.
January 13th, 2015 at 6:23 pm
Marinelli has been locked up to a new contract in Dallas. Having it “accidentally” slip out that he may end up in Tampa was a brilliant negotiating move.
January 13th, 2015 at 6:30 pm
“some of the same attributes” (viewed from afar) does not a Matt Ryan make.
Give it up MGM. Mike Glennon is NOT a starting quality NFL QB. Tape don’t lie – 18 games worth. It won’t take Koetter long to come to that conclusion once he digs in. Winston will be WAY better than any QB currently on our roster from the very 1st day that he comes to start work at OBP.
I’m not saying Glennon sucks – he will likely be a reasonably good back up NFL QB for a # of years because he is smart and works hard – but he just doesn’t have the physical skills required to excel in today’s NFL as a starter. If he was more mobile – he would be much more serviceable – but he’s not at all mobile nor “athletic” and never will be.
January 13th, 2015 at 6:30 pm
I am shocked too TheKevin that a fan base would be unhappy with a team that went 2-14. How dare they!!!!
January 13th, 2015 at 6:32 pm
Quite ironic that you can say that. I’m sure you know that Jones has only played a handful of games, right? I’m sure you researched that before just basing drafting him on the 2 games you watched him play.
January 13th, 2015 at 6:33 pm
Horrible example.
When we went 10-6 a couple years ago, there was still hate for the team from the “fans”.
January 13th, 2015 at 6:36 pm
Tom Brady is not mobile or ahteltic
Peyton Manning is not mobile or atheltic
Matt Ryan is not mobile or athletic
Joe Flacco is not mobile or athletic.
Philip Rivers is not mobile or athletic
Cam is mobile and athletic
Kapernick is mobile and athletic
Geno Smith is mobile and athletic
Dalton is mobile and athletic
RGIII is mobile and athletic
Gee I wonder which group I’d rather have. Mobility and athleticism are not as valuable as smarts when it comes to playing QB.
January 13th, 2015 at 6:46 pm
bucrightoff Says:
January 13th, 2015 at 6:36 pm
Tom Brady is not mobile or ahteltic
Peyton Manning is not mobile or atheltic
Matt Ryan is not mobile or athletic
Joe Flacco is not mobile or athletic.
Philip Rivers is not mobile or athletic
And all those you named have 3 things an immobile QB MUST have to excel in the NFL (Which Glennon does not have) – above average arm strength, accuracy in delivering passes beyond 10 yards and quick decision making. Rebuttal?
January 13th, 2015 at 6:51 pm
Way to leave Luck, Rogers, Wilson, off that list. I would take Cam in a heartbeat done a lot in his young career without many talented players and has started since day 1 and was rookie of the year. You still need an arm regardless.
January 13th, 2015 at 6:52 pm
cmurda Says:
January 13th, 2015 at 6:23 pm
Marinelli has been locked up to a new contract in Dallas. Having it “accidentally” slip out that he may end up in Tampa was a brilliant negotiating move.
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FML, I give up! Draft whoever you want it won’t realy matter. Smdh
January 13th, 2015 at 6:53 pm
This just off the ESPN reports..
Jason Garrett just resigned for five years with the Boys starting the dominoes.
Rod Marinelli just reupped for three years. I guess that’s the end of any Marinelli threads.
January 13th, 2015 at 7:07 pm
Glennon had his chance and failed miserably. Stop with the excuses Glennon is a loser and his win / loss record is proof.
Drew brees had a pretty bad season this year. I think the team needs to draft a QB, but I said last week not to be surprised if this new OC thinks he can do with Glennon what he did with Matt Ryan.
You really can’t say Glennon is garbage when he was playing for the bucs the last two years. Bad play calling, bad protection, no running game. I still want Mariota, but Glennon and McCown both were thrown into situations that no QB could have turned into a positive…..not even Aaron Rodgers could have made our offense look good.
January 13th, 2015 at 7:09 pm
@bucfan4life
Are you a new bucs fan? Must be with that post.
Like you expect some kind of dynasty here or something?
Nobody is happy about 2-14 but screaming fire everybody lovie sucks blah blah how about try and supporting the team ok?
Have you not watched this franchise over the last 30 or so years? I can name about 6 good years out of all of it.
So get used to it. We all want a winner but you guys just bash anything and everything like it’s gonna fix something. Idiots.
Go be a pats fan.
January 13th, 2015 at 7:10 pm
@celly
Tell em!!!!
January 13th, 2015 at 7:12 pm
Pickgrin Says:
January 13th, 2015 at 6:46 pm
And all those you named have 3 things an immobile QB MUST have to excel in the NFL (Which Glennon does not have) – above average arm strength, accuracy in delivering passes beyond 10 yards and quick decision making. Rebuttal?
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Well the first two things are the exact same thing but worded differently (obviously if you have below average arm strength, you won’t be accurate beyond 10 yards). I assume you’re only using the Cleveland game to slam Glennon as not having arm strength, which is absurd to say the least. When given time to throw Glennon has shown above average arm strength. Elite? No, but most guys in recent years with “elite” arm strength have been busts or disappointments. He has a better arm than Brady or Manning right now, probably by far.
As to quick decision making, he needs Jesus Christ level decision making with the horror show in front of him. Amazingly Tom Brady was being basically benched by the fans when he had poor line play earlier this season. Still a team game after all.
And Cam? Lol I can’t wait for them to give him a horrible contract. He’s Dalton but a better runner. Luck and Rodgers are once in a lifetime QBs who are not available in this draft, and people need to stop acting like Mariota or Winston are them or close. Neither Mariota or Winston could carry a mediocre team to great. They just showed us that in the playoff they couldn’t take good teams to great.
January 13th, 2015 at 7:28 pm
Jones said he probably wont come out. He’ll have transfer to start somewhere though. He wont be the starter for OSU next year.
January 13th, 2015 at 7:37 pm
Cam carried an average Auburn team on his back in his 1styear there and was rewarded handsomely with a Heisman, NC, and 1st overall pick. He started game 1 threw for over 400 yards and set rookie passing record for yards and won rookie of the year. Dalton has an elite WE in Green and oline, you cannot compare that with Cam. He’s won back to back titles after a freaking car accident and won a playoff game. He deserves a contract, he’s much better then Dalton or Stafford who have done nothing but put up regular season stats with much better talent around them.
Other then that yeah Cam sucks:)
January 13th, 2015 at 7:46 pm
M. Glennon is avg. at best. He comes in and leads us to the 29th ranked last year. This year he goes 1-4. Something like that. Guy would make a great back-up. Stop f-ing with the fans and get us a real QB. We didn’t win any games against our division and lost all our home games. Get a real QB. The new OC did say he didn’t watch the tape, hope he realizes MG8 is not there savior. God help us Bucs fans.
January 13th, 2015 at 7:52 pm
bucrightoff – arm strength and accuracy are not the same thing at all. I added the ‘beyond 10 yards’ part because Glennon has been somewhat accurate with his short passes – but his ability to hit receivers 20 or 30 yards downfield is not very good at all – which speaks to both arm strength AND accuracy. And no – I’m not just referring to the Cleveland game – LOL. I’ve watched Glennon closely in all 18 starts the last 2 years – and have only seen minor improvements with plenty of glaring weaknesses. He just doesn’t have what it takes as a package to be a good starting NFL QB. My comment about mobility and athleticism was meant to say that he would be a much more serviceable QB and potentially a more viable starter considering the named weaknesses he has in his game – IF he could move around better in the pocket or run when protection breaks down. But he can’t – so his pocket passing weaknesses are magnified.
Winston will be twice the QB Glennon or McCown are from the 1st day he arrives.
January 13th, 2015 at 8:18 pm
“Winston will be twice the QB Glennon or McCown are from the 1st day he arrives.”
And twice the distraction. He better be effin great to put up with the circus that will follow him. He’s be much better of in quiet Nashville where the rape accusations haven’t been covered as thoroughly as in Florida.
January 13th, 2015 at 8:22 pm
Glennon was given a chance and failed? I’m pretty sure any young qb would not have success under the guidance of Arroyo.
January 13th, 2015 at 8:27 pm
Oh please football gods don’t let Mike Glennon be our QB
January 13th, 2015 at 8:43 pm
He does have some of the same attributes: he’s skinny, he’s blonde, he’s slow, he played in the ACC, he doesn’t have a great arm, and he’s got two talented WRs playing for him. Other than that, there are no other similiar attributes.
January 13th, 2015 at 8:47 pm
A empty rjs it will be folks
January 13th, 2015 at 9:07 pm
@Todd
“A empty rjs it will be folks”
If you mean because you “assume” that playing MG means we’ll losing then I’m with you.
But I hope you all realize that a 10-6 team with Glennon would draw more than a 4-12 team with Jameis or Marcus and especially with Jameis.
Jameis will be under a microscope and he will have a very short honeymoon in Tampa. Not that Marcus would have a much longer one.
Bottom line..Winning puts butts in the seats not the QB.
January 13th, 2015 at 9:24 pm
lol cause they’re both tall. Trust me Dirk Diggler, that’s ALL THERE IS.
January 13th, 2015 at 9:27 pm
StPeteBucsFan Says:
January 13th, 2015 at 8:18 pm
“Winston will be twice the QB Glennon or McCown are from the 1st day he arrives.”
And twice the distraction. He better be effin great to put up with the circus that will follow him. He’s be much better of in quiet Nashville where the rape accusations haven’t been covered as thoroughly as in Florida.
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Holy Crap St Pete. Let it go. The “accusations” are nothing more than that. If they were – then Winston would have been charged. He was never arrested or charged and its not because the Tallahassee Police Dept is corrupt or catering to FSU athletes. The accuser’s “story” changed multiple times, was so full of holes it resembled swiss cheese and did not resemble the verifiable facts. A former Supreme Court judge also looked closely at all the available facts during the school hearing to determine if Winston had done anything wrong and Jameis was completely exonerated.
My take is that after the girl sobered up the next day and realized that a video of her having sex with a black man might get out and be seen by her parents or whatever – she freaked and made up the rape story to cover for the decisions she made which she later regretted. Maybe that’s the case or maybe not – but it seems plausible.
The accuser later hired a lawyer famous for bringing sexual cases against athletes – and now that nothing about her story has been accepted by the criminal courts they are trying to sue the University itself – as if the school had any culpability even if the accusation WAS true. The accuser and her lawyer are just trying to get paid off by any means remotely possible and that couldn’t be more obvious
Jameis is NOT a bad kid. If you met him and spent time with him – you would like him and be impressed with how intelligent and likable he is. Has he made some questionable decisions outside of this accusation? Yes. But none of them are serious IMO and certainly none of them should be effecting what Winston is capable of doing on a football field – which is win more football games than any so called peer….
January 13th, 2015 at 9:30 pm
Celly, The Kevin, other “real” fans,
Fans were unhappy in 2010 because we failed to make the playoffs. Blame the pass interference on Kellen Winslow Jr. Against the Lions, or blame that we lost down the stretch and failed to make it in.
Not winning a playoff game in 12 years will give the fans a reason to bitch. Not qualifying for the playoffs since Gruden hurts.
You @sswipes need to understand that some “real” fans give a sh!t about their team, and take the complacency and lack of urgency, or as you refer to as “patience”, personally.
January 13th, 2015 at 9:55 pm
@steve k
I care as much as anyone but coming on here and bashing everything hasn’t ever helped anything.
I mean you dumb a@@ people actually believe you know more than the people employed.
Just idiots lol
Worst fan base in the league
Fire fire fire blah blah blah. Next guy ,fire fire fire blah blah blah, next guy fire fire fire blah blah blah
Same song and dance by you idiots every single year
January 13th, 2015 at 10:16 pm
Fire “The Kevin”. You aint gonna stop nobody from bitchin so stop bitchin.
January 13th, 2015 at 10:43 pm
TheKevin,
I agree, bitching doesn’t help, but when you’re as bad as the Bucs…
What gives with our franchises overall ineptitude? I thought Schiano deserved a third year. I don’t think turning it over every year helps. But, if we get another top 5 draft pick next year, then change is a must!
We can’t sit around being this damn bad. I understand bitching is terrible. I just hope those same sumbitches that paid for Schiano’s billboards hoist Lovie’s if the same level of ineptitude is replicated. After all, one can only hope a Bic coach is held to the same standard. Surely Lovie smith can out coach Schiano. It’s a show me year.
January 13th, 2015 at 11:16 pm
I would love to draft Jones with the 1st pick of the 2nd round.
Make him a 2 year project… start Glennon in 2015 and draft olinemen.
January 14th, 2015 at 12:05 am
Hey Kevin I never once said fire the coach and I have been a Bucs fan since ’76. I am looking forward to the draft and hope they get it right. While Lovie made some mistakes with personnel decisions I think he will eventually right the ship. We need some stability and cant keep firing coaches every other year. My point was fans are going to be pissed when their team goes 2-14. Fans are passionate albeit misguided at times. Firing Lovie is not the answer but I can see why some fans are questioning him. He took over a 4-12 team and they took two steps back this year. The Bucs are my team and it’s a part of my genetic makeup at this point. I hope they make all the right moves this offseason and give us diehards some hope in the future.
January 14th, 2015 at 12:43 am
Glennon had the same attributes as Matt Ryan… Except:
– ball placement
– pocket presence
– making the proper read and deliver the football DOWNFIELD!!!
– throwing for more than 4 yards per pass
– making proper pre snap adjustments and audibles
Matt Ryan? Not by a long shot… I hope he can improve but I doubt it…
January 14th, 2015 at 1:32 am
I think the idea of starting Glennon is a good (or viable) one even if we draft a QB. Everybody seems to acknowledge MM would need time, and there’s nothing wrong with asking Winston to beat out Glennon in competition. Seems like Glennon should get a shot regardless of how the draft plays out, and I honestly think he’s earned it.
As far as Winston goes I’ll echo what Pickgrin said. Let it go people. We don’t know what happened (in most of the incidents). The people who know the most and are in the position to pass judgement have declined to. Let it go….why is it so hard to think that a criminally innocent kid made some immature choices which were exposed under the highest level of media scrutiny possible? No other college player has ever been hounded like Winston, not even close. ESPN had reporters in Tallahassee for over a year digging up everything they could find. They found some stuff, as would be true with most people regardless of whether they play football.
January 14th, 2015 at 6:36 am
Oh gosh…
Playing with these Glennonites feelings…
January 14th, 2015 at 11:08 am
Per Advanced Football Analytics, Mike Glennon has the HIGHEST percentage of completed passes OVER 15yds, of ALL QBs. The next best QB is almost three percentage points behind. People need to do just a small amount of research before repeating something just because they like how it sounds.
January 14th, 2015 at 12:35 pm
@ hawk
Glennon misses way too many open reads down field… Period… His pocket presence is bad and he is not athletic enough to escape the pocket once it collapses…
He is nothing more than an average back up in the NFL and we will never win the Super Bowl with him playing QB…
We need to move on…
January 14th, 2015 at 12:59 pm
mac Said:
“Glennon misses way too many open reads down field… Period…”
Do you have FACTS to back up your statement? Source?
“His pocket presence is bad and he is not athletic enough to escape the pocket once it collapses…”
That statement is subjective, at best, but I certainly won’t argue that he not the most fleet-footed QB in the league.
“He is nothing more than an average back up in the NFL and we will never win the Super Bowl with him playing QB…”
And you KNOW this… how? Ouija board, crystal ball?
“We need to move on…”
That is up to the coaches, but you may get your wish… or not.
January 14th, 2015 at 1:03 pm
@Hawk,
He also is ranked 32nd in YPA.
Everyone can cherry pick stats however they see fit, but the only stat that really matters is W/L and those stats show that MG is a losing QB.
January 14th, 2015 at 1:39 pm
@ hawk
Trust me I know for sure… Glennon is not the answer at QB…
Unless the question is who is the worst starting QB in the NFL…
January 14th, 2015 at 3:22 pm
ROTFLMAO!!!
January 14th, 2015 at 10:08 pm
mac Says:
January 14th, 2015 at 1:39 pm
@ hawk
Trust me I know for sure… Glennon is not the answer at QB.
Wow Mac! Call our OC and let him know so it will save him some time. Better yet why not try and get his job since you know so much. You people crack me up!!