With a decent draft, some coaching changes, and a good Offensive Co Ordinator, we can pull out of this.
The O Line is the glaring weakness, IMHO.
We are unable to sustain drives because of it, forcing our defense to be on the field too much, and having to play tired.
Warhop needs to go, and we need a new O Line Coach, maybe Pete Mangurian, who did so well, with so little, under Raheem, but was let go, for reasons not quite clear.
Lovie Smith has led this team to “2 and whatever” and people have confidence? The time to start pointing fingers is now. This guy is a failure. Look at all the failures he stocked our roster with.
I don’t see why the results would change much week to week now, the team is what it is for the most part for this season. I vote confident because most of the problems are with the offense/offensive staff. Its so ignorant for the “fire Lovie” chants after one season.
What’s really ignorant is thinking Lovie can lead us anywhere of significance. His entire resume suggests at best he’ll lead us to mediocrity. We need to shoot for better, and if we’re drafting a QB having noted QB destroyer Lovie Smith coaching him will destroy that pick. Lovie is what he is, a DC at best.
I don’t know what this team needs anymore. No clue. When we had Morris, I thought someone like Schiano was the answer. When we we got Lovie, I thought he was totaly what we needed. Now I’m done.
Do you and all you other sour fans know what your saying? You do realize what you’re saying? bucs fans are so hateful and forgetful. How many current coaches have been to the Superbowl even once in a lose?
I remember how many so called fans were calling for Tony dungy’s head after losing in the playoffs year after year. So even when he does get this team to a winning record you’ll do the same to this guy. You may hate how he does it and his mentality but all of a sudden a coach with a winning percentage is a loser? No this franchise is a loser, the players are soft and you can’t fix a team full of mental midgets in one year. Not happy with the record but of course it’s because we’re not happy with the players. Yes lovie brought in garbage but he brought in some good players to. Yes he had a bad season but you don’t for a winning coach after one season because he came to a sorry ash team that has sucked for almost a decade now
My vote is still no confidence because he continues to play the same OL and QB and Michael (the ghost) Johnson on defense using the same plays with the same results and yet has a stable of runners that can do more then run up the middle and receivers that are top notch. It is sickening to watch McCown either throw no where in the vicinity of the receiver, three to four man coverage, and never look at anything else. He throws short when he needs a lot and he holds on to the ball way too long. The OL is indescribable and surely one of a kind in the history of the NFL, so bad that word can’t describe them.
Yet Lovie plows on saying the same, playing the same, and thinking the same and expect something different. This is the definition of insanity.
Yea OK so remind me how’s Jim Harbaugh doing Right now? How’s that team doing? He had a couple good years… I’d rather be bad in the beginning and get better and stay good. Don’t understand what fans are so in a rush for all of a sudden lol you do realize how long we’ve sucked? What’s the rush and risk of giving a proven winning coach another year…. We’re already an embarrassment to the league another couldn’t damage that reputation any more
I saw this comment previously and it bears repeating –
Schiano should have been given the third year of his contract, Schiano should be here not lovie. Think of all the FA moves we would have most likely avoided, No Josh MCclown, No Michael “Invisible Man” Johnson, EDS, Mankins, etc.etc. Millions of dollars saved to be spent elsewhere. Schiano’s Bucs are better than lovies Bucs. PERIOD.
I went with little confidence again. The Tedford thing has wrecked the season but man he does not seem to have any control over the assistants. He should have went off on Arroyo after the Bucs had to call a timeout to start the second half, only to go 3 and out with vanilla play calls and punt and soon the 17-10 deficit was 24-10…. that can n ot happen on the sidelines and Lovie has to own it….
But if this record speaks anything to me other than we’re not good in a really bad division, it’s that the arrow for this team is not pointing North (up/positive/u smell me). We have no identity on either side of the ball – and yes that includes defense. We’ve been out-hustled, out-played, out-schemed, and out-coached in every game this year. Again, our players look hapless and unmotivated; I’ll argue worse even than the sorrowful games at the end of the Raheem era. To people that think it’s not a coach’s job to motivate because game-checks should do that, you’re absolutely wrong – check out that Raiders team last week, or watch the Texans post game with Bill O Brian. And hostly worst of all with the exception of Evans, every single acquisition, trade, or draft pick has been an absolute mistake. Joe applauds the Mankins deal as something that had to be made, and relative to the circumstance was a good move – I disagree. That move was made because of the ineptitude of the coaches in assessing our current roster. Former OLineman are having pro bowl seasons elsewhere, if not starting for much better teams. I’m serious when I say you’re average reader on this site could have done a better job assessing the team he acquired! Moving forward, in again, one of the most important drafts in this franchise’s history, needing that OL that he has proven in the past he can’t build… I smell nothing but trouble and unfortunately have seen nothing to make me believe this thing will move in any sort of a positive direction.
December 9th, 2014 at 1:02 pm
2 votes so far. I guess Lovie Voted to counter my vote.
December 9th, 2014 at 1:05 pm
I went from none back to little confidence. An early Christmas present to show Lovie he is better than nothing.
December 9th, 2014 at 1:13 pm
How could anyone vote confident? Reset button please……
December 9th, 2014 at 1:19 pm
With a decent draft, some coaching changes, and a good Offensive Co Ordinator, we can pull out of this.
The O Line is the glaring weakness, IMHO.
We are unable to sustain drives because of it, forcing our defense to be on the field too much, and having to play tired.
Warhop needs to go, and we need a new O Line Coach, maybe Pete Mangurian, who did so well, with so little, under Raheem, but was let go, for reasons not quite clear.
December 9th, 2014 at 1:23 pm
Lovie Smith has led this team to “2 and whatever” and people have confidence? The time to start pointing fingers is now. This guy is a failure. Look at all the failures he stocked our roster with.
December 9th, 2014 at 1:43 pm
I don’t see why the results would change much week to week now, the team is what it is for the most part for this season. I vote confident because most of the problems are with the offense/offensive staff. Its so ignorant for the “fire Lovie” chants after one season.
December 9th, 2014 at 2:06 pm
What’s really ignorant is thinking Lovie can lead us anywhere of significance. His entire resume suggests at best he’ll lead us to mediocrity. We need to shoot for better, and if we’re drafting a QB having noted QB destroyer Lovie Smith coaching him will destroy that pick. Lovie is what he is, a DC at best.
December 9th, 2014 at 2:14 pm
My vote has been “no confidence” since the Atlanta Massacre. It isn’t going to change.
December 9th, 2014 at 3:09 pm
I don’t know what this team needs anymore. No clue. When we had Morris, I thought someone like Schiano was the answer. When we we got Lovie, I thought he was totaly what we needed. Now I’m done.
December 9th, 2014 at 4:08 pm
I’ve voted little confidence again.
As a fan, I really don’t want to hate on Lovie but he’s taken a 4-12 team and made it worse!
December 9th, 2014 at 5:21 pm
I guess a Super Bowl appearance was mediocrity. If its not better next season, I’ll be questioning Lovie staying as head coach.
December 9th, 2014 at 5:31 pm
@DallasBuc
Do you and all you other sour fans know what your saying? You do realize what you’re saying? bucs fans are so hateful and forgetful. How many current coaches have been to the Superbowl even once in a lose?
I remember how many so called fans were calling for Tony dungy’s head after losing in the playoffs year after year. So even when he does get this team to a winning record you’ll do the same to this guy. You may hate how he does it and his mentality but all of a sudden a coach with a winning percentage is a loser? No this franchise is a loser, the players are soft and you can’t fix a team full of mental midgets in one year. Not happy with the record but of course it’s because we’re not happy with the players. Yes lovie brought in garbage but he brought in some good players to. Yes he had a bad season but you don’t for a winning coach after one season because he came to a sorry ash team that has sucked for almost a decade now
December 9th, 2014 at 5:38 pm
My vote is still no confidence because he continues to play the same OL and QB and Michael (the ghost) Johnson on defense using the same plays with the same results and yet has a stable of runners that can do more then run up the middle and receivers that are top notch. It is sickening to watch McCown either throw no where in the vicinity of the receiver, three to four man coverage, and never look at anything else. He throws short when he needs a lot and he holds on to the ball way too long. The OL is indescribable and surely one of a kind in the history of the NFL, so bad that word can’t describe them.
Yet Lovie plows on saying the same, playing the same, and thinking the same and expect something different. This is the definition of insanity.
We need a new head coach now, period.
December 9th, 2014 at 5:38 pm
Jim Harbaugh went to a sorry ass team that sucked for even longer than we have. He didn’t go 2-14.
December 9th, 2014 at 6:07 pm
Yea OK so remind me how’s Jim Harbaugh doing Right now? How’s that team doing? He had a couple good years… I’d rather be bad in the beginning and get better and stay good. Don’t understand what fans are so in a rush for all of a sudden lol you do realize how long we’ve sucked? What’s the rush and risk of giving a proven winning coach another year…. We’re already an embarrassment to the league another couldn’t damage that reputation any more
December 9th, 2014 at 6:29 pm
I saw this comment previously and it bears repeating –
Schiano should have been given the third year of his contract, Schiano should be here not lovie. Think of all the FA moves we would have most likely avoided, No Josh MCclown, No Michael “Invisible Man” Johnson, EDS, Mankins, etc.etc. Millions of dollars saved to be spent elsewhere. Schiano’s Bucs are better than lovies Bucs. PERIOD.
December 9th, 2014 at 9:09 pm
Lovie is old school. Shiano made better decisions with the mess he had around him. Might as well ride the Lovie train until the tracks run out.
December 9th, 2014 at 10:10 pm
I went with little confidence again. The Tedford thing has wrecked the season but man he does not seem to have any control over the assistants. He should have went off on Arroyo after the Bucs had to call a timeout to start the second half, only to go 3 and out with vanilla play calls and punt and soon the 17-10 deficit was 24-10…. that can n ot happen on the sidelines and Lovie has to own it….
December 9th, 2014 at 11:14 pm
@buc4lyfe – Here’s how Jim Harbaugh’s 1st 4 years went since you said you need reminding (includes barely losing a Super Bowl):
13-3
11-4-1
12-4
7-6 (current season)
43-17 record = Amazing
Lovie’s record sits at 83-74 = barely above average
December 10th, 2014 at 3:11 am
buc4life I applaud your optimism.
But if this record speaks anything to me other than we’re not good in a really bad division, it’s that the arrow for this team is not pointing North (up/positive/u smell me). We have no identity on either side of the ball – and yes that includes defense. We’ve been out-hustled, out-played, out-schemed, and out-coached in every game this year. Again, our players look hapless and unmotivated; I’ll argue worse even than the sorrowful games at the end of the Raheem era. To people that think it’s not a coach’s job to motivate because game-checks should do that, you’re absolutely wrong – check out that Raiders team last week, or watch the Texans post game with Bill O Brian. And hostly worst of all with the exception of Evans, every single acquisition, trade, or draft pick has been an absolute mistake. Joe applauds the Mankins deal as something that had to be made, and relative to the circumstance was a good move – I disagree. That move was made because of the ineptitude of the coaches in assessing our current roster. Former OLineman are having pro bowl seasons elsewhere, if not starting for much better teams. I’m serious when I say you’re average reader on this site could have done a better job assessing the team he acquired! Moving forward, in again, one of the most important drafts in this franchise’s history, needing that OL that he has proven in the past he can’t build… I smell nothing but trouble and unfortunately have seen nothing to make me believe this thing will move in any sort of a positive direction.