“The End Of His Career”
December 14th, 2014In a matter of minutes before “98.7 The Fan” was shut down by the sports radio station’s ownership this month, longtime NFL Films chief Greg Cosell was on their airwaves talking all things Bucs.
Cosell made it clear that Josh McCown, per the film, was nothing more than backup fodder, but Cosell also had firm words for the offensive line.
In particular, Cosell singled out perennial Pro Bowler Logan Mankins, saying he’s at “the end of his career.” In October, Cosell described Mankins’ play as a “detriment.”
Joe’s not sure Mankins is totally washed up, but it’s clear to Joe this is the end of Mankins’ Buccaneers’ career. And it’s definitely the end of Mankins’ streak of five consecutive Pro Bowl seasons.
The 32-year-old Patriots’ icon just doesn’t play anywhere close to his $6.5 million salary. There’s no way the Bucs should hold on to him for that price — and he may not be worth much more than the league minimum. Remember, Mankins was a little bitter when Joe asked him about his play.
Joe can’t knock the late-August trade for Mankins, though. The Bucs were desperate after Carl Nicks couldn’t return, and after Oneil Cousins and Jamon Meredith freaked out a nation of Bucs fans who saw them collapse at left guard in preseason. It is a shame, though, that the Bucs coughed up Tim Wright, who’s got a long NFL future.
December 14th, 2014 at 9:21 am
Fleeced again by the Pats
December 14th, 2014 at 9:26 am
You wonder if a player can drop in performance that much in a year or was he held up the other linemen that much? I guess desire to play enters into it also because he went from a winning team to a losing team.
We did learn a great lesson, never trade with the New England with the present coach.
December 14th, 2014 at 9:30 am
Spin it any way you want. The FO compounded one mistake with another when they made this trade.
December 14th, 2014 at 9:32 am
Hey Joe, do you happen to know why 98.7 the Fan was shut down? I was sooo pissed when all I hear is Christmas music! Well I’m done listening to sports radio in this area. As far as Mankins, PLEASE!!!! Anyone who thought that this guy coming in was going to be some sort of lift was begging and GUZZLING the Lovie Smith Kool Aid!! The record of this putrid team is indicative of the sorry ass coaching staff, the sorry ass front office, the sorry ass ownership, which collectively can’t evaluate talent to save their lives. Hence the regurgitated crap we all see on the field week in and week out.
Just business on the radio shutdown. Bad ratings = no money = no more station.–Joe
December 14th, 2014 at 9:55 am
Tim Wright has been better than Mankins straight up…and we threw away a 4th round pick to boot. Utterly horrific trade.
December 14th, 2014 at 9:57 am
AND WHO IN CHARGE OF ALL THIS MESS….. IT ALL FALLS BACK ON COACH LOVIE,,, WHATS THE OLD SAYING,,YOU MADE YOUR BED NOW LAY IN IT !!!!!!!
NOW COACH LOVIE AND THE REST OF THE FLIP-FLOPS MUST GO >>>>>>>
December 14th, 2014 at 9:59 am
I’m happy for Tim Wright, great kid. He gets to play with a great QB and is going to have a long and happy career. Too bad for the Bucs, but at least he got away from this mess.
December 14th, 2014 at 10:03 am
Yeah our tight end play isn’t really good at all
December 14th, 2014 at 10:04 am
And they gave away Zuttah, who is having a Probowl year, and gave away the farm to get Mankins because of L&Ls horrendous off season player shuffling. Yea, that’s who we want running next years draft…
December 14th, 2014 at 10:10 am
Awful trade and I’m not so sure mankins made much of a difference over Meredith or cousins.
December 14th, 2014 at 10:10 am
Once again Lovie having total control costs the bucs dearly.
December 14th, 2014 at 10:12 am
Seems like L&L could screw up a wet dream.
December 14th, 2014 at 10:18 am
Really all you have to do is look @ some of the trades in Chicago Lovie made and you really shouldn’t be surprised.
December 14th, 2014 at 10:22 am
Everytime we trade w New England we get screwed. If they called I would just hang up the phone. Do they not see ALL the outcomes of these trades w them
December 14th, 2014 at 10:34 am
Basically wasted a high 2nd on Austin S-Jenkins-Baxter-Bierny as well. Compounding mistakes have lead to this dumpster fire. Somehow the Bucs will win today or againt the Aints to botch the high draft pick to boot.
December 14th, 2014 at 10:37 am
Would not have made that trade
December 14th, 2014 at 10:44 am
Sounds like a horrible idea – “Lets give up a mediocre tight end and a 4th round pick for a 5 time pro-bowl guard”. Anyone who thinks that sounds like a bad idea after what happened with Nicks is either a liar or an idiot.
December 14th, 2014 at 10:45 am
you guys are all so full of sh*t, everyone of you at the time would have made that trade.
December 14th, 2014 at 10:45 am
The ONLY reason Wright looks good is because Brady is throwing the ball. Does ANYONE really think Tim Wright would tear up the NFL in Tampa?
December 14th, 2014 at 10:48 am
Icing on the Mankins cake? There’s near $3.5 in cap penalty if we cut him. He’s owed $10m next season. Terrible trade in retrospect.
December 14th, 2014 at 10:52 am
The mistake happened before the trade for Mankins. It was made when L&L assumed that Nicks would be back, just like they assumed that Tedford would be OC and that any of their FA acquisitions would improve the team. I think that the Glazers have more than enough evidence to strip Lovie of all managerial power and fire Licht after the Saints game for general incompetence; its so bad that perhaps a Vegas inquiry should be called as the numerous blunders almost amount to tanking/throwing games from the coaching standpoint….
December 14th, 2014 at 10:56 am
They should have never been in that desperate position in the first place. This was an HORRIFIC trade!!!
Pure neglegence how they handled this offensive line. Stevie Womder could have seen it coming.
#PATHETIC
Go Sucs!!!
December 14th, 2014 at 10:57 am
If it was’nt for bad trades the Bucs would’nt have any trades to talk about.
December 14th, 2014 at 11:18 am
Simpleasthat Says:
December 14th, 2014 at 10:18 am
Really all you have to do is look @ some of the trades in Chicago Lovie made and you really shouldn’t be surprised.
You’re right. Even the Bucs at one time fleeced Lovie on a trade. Remember that we traded putrid Gains Adams to the Bears for a 2nd round pick. I don’t recall what that pick turned into, but the fact that Lovie gave up a 2nd round pick for a 7th round talent tells you everything you need to know.
December 14th, 2014 at 11:29 am
Jim Says:
December 14th, 2014 at 10:45 am
The ONLY reason Wright looks good is because Brady is throwing the ball. Does ANYONE really think Tim Wright would tear up the NFL in Tampa?
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Considering he had 570 yards and 5TDs last year on a Schiano team (he’s utterly horrible as a coach right?) and with Glennon throwing him the ball (who’s likewise utterly horrible yeah?), I don’t know if he’d tear it up, but there’s no doubt he’d be putting up similar numbers this year. We threw away a productive player to get an aging, overpaid player from New England (the NFL’s biggest red flag)…and for fun we threw away a 4th round pick with it too.
New England is the model NFL franchise. We’re the model dumpster fire. I wonder why that is.
December 14th, 2014 at 12:49 pm
I really like Mariota, but it was scary watching all those past heisman 1st round busts sitting in the audience last night.
December 14th, 2014 at 1:02 pm
bucrightoff Says:
December 14th, 2014 at 11:29 am
Jim Says:
December 14th, 2014 at 10:45 am
The ONLY reason Wright looks good is because Brady is throwing the ball. Does ANYONE really think Tim Wright would tear up the NFL in Tampa?
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Considering he had 570 yards and 5TDs last year on a Schiano team (he’s utterly horrible as a coach right?) and with Glennon throwing him the ball (who’s likewise utterly horrible yeah?), I don’t know if he’d tear it up, but there’s no doubt he’d be putting up similar numbers this year. We threw away a productive player to get an aging, overpaid player from New England (the NFL’s biggest red flag)…and for fun we threw away a 4th round pick with it too.
New England is the model NFL franchise. We’re the model dumpster fire. I wonder why that is.
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Great post! Agree completely.
Not to mention that Wright was an undrafted free agent, who didn’t play all 16 games, and had better stats than ALL of our current tight ends combined. I hope they trade Glennon to NE too.
tickrdr
December 14th, 2014 at 1:14 pm
I wonder what the Glazers think about all of the bad decisions that Lovie is making?
December 14th, 2014 at 1:21 pm
Why does Licht seem to escape any criticism for all the horrific personnel moves made this offseason? Besides drafting Evans almost every move this guy has made has backfired.
December 14th, 2014 at 5:18 pm
Lovie traded for Gaines Adams. That tells you all you need to know about how trade savvy he is.
December 14th, 2014 at 6:47 pm
I figure that patriots knew that mankins was on the decline that’s why they wanted to get rid of him. If I remember correctly we called about their backup right guard and ended up w mankins. So no I wouldn’t have done the trade. Something sounded real fishy about that whole situation and like everybody said b4 we knew all free agency that there was chance nicks wouldn’t b back. So I fault l&l for stupid trade and stupid free agency. All goes back to keeping zuttah penn and Joseph. Should have never got rid of those 3