McCown Can’t “Camouflage And Compensate”
December 4th, 2014
Joe sure hopes Mike Glennon Mob members weren’t listening to NFL Films longtime film guru Greg Cosell break down the Bucs today. They might have started banging their heads against a wall again.
Cosell hopped on the WHFS-FM 98.7 airwaves and battered Josh McCown.
You can hear the full audio here.
Cosell said fans need a “dose of realism” when it comes to McCown because he just simply is not an NFL starter.
Among other takes, Cosell said McCown has proven he’s not the kind of quarterback good enough to “camouflage and compensate” for a bad offensive line like the Bucs’. Cosell referenced holding the ball too long and missing reads.
Joe would add that McCown’s effective use of his legs seems to have disappeared. Lovie Smith was adamant that McCown was a mobile and athletic quarterback. But Bucs fans haven’t seen very much of that the past couple of games.
Joe’s has calmed his rage that Glennon, 10 years younger than McCown, is on the bench in this lost season. But Cosell’s words got Joe fired up.
Can we please just do the smart thing and let Glennon finish out the season?
December 4th, 2014 at 4:06 pm
If we are planning on trading Glennon before next year, I would not recommend playing him any more, especially with our OL. The more other teams see of him, the more likely they are going to realize that he too is not a NFL starter. That being said, if he really is the QB of the future, then he should have never lost his starting gig.
December 4th, 2014 at 4:10 pm
@Hawaiian Buc
We won’t get any offers for him. Not with the way guys like Brian Hoyer and Mark Sanchez out there. Glennon is not even a competent backup.
December 4th, 2014 at 4:13 pm
Mind you, I’m not saying Sanchez is all that great, but he is more proven than Glennon.
December 4th, 2014 at 4:15 pm
Glennon is the best QB on our roster.
We should be playing him to see if he is the answer, or worth trading…
SMH at McCown, he is just a backup.
Shame on Lovie for not giving the kid a chance in a lost season. This is one reason why we are a bad team…
December 4th, 2014 at 4:22 pm
@Bonzai, IMO, MG8 is a reasonable backup, but definitely not starter material. Glennon is probably better than McCown and McCown has had a long career in the NFL.
I also don’t think the idea of starting Glennon to develop is bc he is suddenly going to be starter material, although miracles do happen (that would be up there with turning water into wine). But the experience would make him a better backup.
December 4th, 2014 at 4:30 pm
My sentiments exactly, Harry.
Lovie’s big picture logic is hard to follow and border line ludicrous.
December 4th, 2014 at 5:00 pm
98.7 is off the air? Can any one tell me whats going on?
December 4th, 2014 at 5:06 pm
@77 new company new format. Fat bastard bubba is coming back in January on the new 98.7.
December 4th, 2014 at 5:12 pm
Fans need a dose of realism? How about the HC and GM? The commentary at this point has gotten silly.
December 4th, 2014 at 5:24 pm
McCown is our ticket to the top Draft pick next year! Hop on the train wreck and ride it out! We will never know for sure if Glennon could be our starter because Lovie Smith won’t play him…why?….because if Glennon plays well, it opens Smith up to criticism (and justifiably so) over why he didn’t play him in the first place! And if Glennon plays badly, it opens him up to criticism over the fact that Glennon is still WAY better than the 35 year old journeyman backup that Smith hand picked in the off season…and gave $5 million to (McCown)! Lovie’s (and Licht’s) only chance at turning things around at this point is to stink it up for the last few games, get a top 2 or 3 draft choice, and use it on someone like Mariotta or Winston. That would buy this staff at least one more year to turn things around and make some progress. An 8-8 season next year might be enough to salvage their jobs….otherwise, Lovie will be back in his basement watching the NFL in 2016!
#RideTheTrainWreck!
December 4th, 2014 at 5:37 pm
I’d love to see The Giraffe sent out to be slaughtered against the hungry Lions.
December 4th, 2014 at 5:40 pm
There is no down-side to playing Glennon (trade-wise). If he starts playing better, he’ll be (at the very least) a cheap backup. If he doesn’t… big deal. He is NOT trade-able right now. He was benched for MCCOWN. The whole league can see what McCown is and see that Lovie prefers him over Glennon. If that doesn’t hurt your value, I don’t know what would.
December 4th, 2014 at 5:43 pm
I hope Glennon ends up with the Saints where he has a coach who can evaluate talent!
December 4th, 2014 at 5:44 pm
Exactly what I’ve been posting. Mcnown’s a good backup. One thing I don’t agree with is there’s no qb in nfl who can look good behind a bad o-line. So not sure what Costello is saying. From what I’ve seen with a good o-line there’s a chance Glennon could be ok qb. But how can u tell with no o-line, no running game, and even no oc??
December 4th, 2014 at 6:01 pm
ulch no more Glennon please… 2 years has been enough.
December 4th, 2014 at 6:19 pm
Yes, the smart this is 4 more games with Glennon to ensure we do not win another game. Like the kid but I’ve see enough. He stinks.
December 4th, 2014 at 6:21 pm
A bad oline can ruin ANY quarterback. You think if Drew Brees came here, he would do so well? Or Peyton? Or Rogers?
They would do better than Glennon or McCown, because they are better QBs…but they would not be nearly so successful as they are.
December 4th, 2014 at 6:22 pm
At this point it is better to lose than win. Whoever can attain that goal should start. I say have a RB OLine guy play QB, just to play it safe.
December 4th, 2014 at 6:34 pm
24-21
14 of 21 for 247y 2tds 0ints and a W
Let the slaughter begin….
December 4th, 2014 at 6:37 pm
Doesn’t matter who the hell the QB is next year, or any year after that. If and when we have a creative OC and an above average offensive line then I will worry about who our QB is. Looks like defense is just starting to show some decent improvement but this offense is going nowhere fast.
I am surprised how bad McCown looks. I mean he was playing good football last year. He wasn’t hesitating. He has had some opportunities but misses them. Don’t know anymore, hard to really care …
December 4th, 2014 at 6:42 pm
Lovie and smart in the same sentence! That’s rich
December 4th, 2014 at 9:02 pm
Lovie saw enough of 2nd year Glennon in 5 games playing average 10tds 6ints …. but he hasnt saw enough of McCown in 13 years and 7 games this year playing horrible .
December 4th, 2014 at 9:23 pm
Joe, Thanks for writing about Cosell the last few weeks. I could listen to this guy talk about the Bucs all day endlessly. I was going to request it, but just figured he was on the wrong radio station. I always had to go elsewhere to find the audio. Now I can just stay right here in this here comfortable corner of the interwebs to get it.
December 4th, 2014 at 10:19 pm
No..
December 5th, 2014 at 2:20 am
@Kevin Schmidt
Very perceptive and not at all negative like most comments on this site.
Do you really think drafting Mariota or Winston is going to make a difference? what has happened to RG3, Cam Newton, and Colin Kaepernick?
Want some more names added?
I would rather see offensive linemen drafted. As much as I despise Jerry Jones he made smart moves drafting the line they have today.
I’m just going to keep watching and try to remain positive. This is playing for my job next year time unless some want out of this down trending organization.
December 5th, 2014 at 9:58 am
Glennon’s trade value or lack thereof won’t be affected by Lovie benching him, teams know Lovie’s knowledge of QBs fits into a thimble, at best. (And I’m not endorsing nor condemning Glennon either, just an observation).
December 5th, 2014 at 10:46 am
mccown hasn’t shown a ton of mobility but he has shown more escapability than glennon. when glennon has been back there this year vs teams like the ravens, i half expect him to get chris simms’d and blow out an internal organ. it’s almost inhumane to start glennon with the line they have assembled
December 5th, 2014 at 10:49 am
at least mccown is getting paid $5 mil to be a tackling dummy in the opposing team’s pass rush drill. poor glennon was getting blasted back there in exchange for mid-round rookie wages
December 5th, 2014 at 11:05 am
Offensive line or no offensive line, only THREE QBs have thrown for more TDs in their first 19 games, than MG8’s 29 TDs.
Russell Wilson with 32 TDs in his first nineteen games.
Aaron Rodgers with 32 TDs, but he didn’t play until his fourth year in NFL.
Peyton Manning with 33 TDs, but also had 33 INTs in those 19 games.
I hope MG8 gets traded.
tickrdr
December 7th, 2014 at 1:45 am
People need to get over this. Lovie isn’t playing Glennon because he knows who his QB of the future is. It’s Winston. He’s playing McCown to tank hard enough to get him. And he definitely doesn’t want a QB controversy when he starts him, so Glennon has to sit. Just in case Winston struggles.
Oh, and for all you Mariota fans…it ain’t happening. Lovie will trade up for Winston if he has to, but he won’t leave without him.