Marcus Arroyo Should Just Go Home
December 21st, 2014
Enough is enough.
Joe’s had it with Marcus Arroyo, the Bucs’ acting offensive coordinator. His act is over.
Joe isn’t so sure Arroyo is qualified to be a college quarterback coach, let alone NFL offensive coordinator. Today’s lame effort did it for Joe.
Yes, yes, yes, Joe knows Arroyo was hung out to dry by Jeff Tedford.
It all began with Tedford’s heart issue and then his proclamation that he was “good to go” for the past “couple” of months.
Still, even with just one lousy game left, Arroyo’s offense just gets worse and worse and now is the time for him to pack his bags. Surely, the next offensive coordinator won’t keep Arroyo, short of needing someone to cut video and make bagel runs to Panera.
Let’s just look at some of the gory numbers today:
* The Bucs rush for 16 yards. SIXTEEN FRIGGIN’ YARDS
* The longest run from scrimmage was four yards. FOUR!
* For the second straight game, Josh McCown threw for less than 50 percent completion percentage, connecting on 12 of 26 passes. Somewhere, leaky, sleepy Josh Freeman is doubled over in laughter.
* The offense converted 4 of 14 third downs for a lowly 29 percent conversion rate.
* The screendoor-on-a-submarine offensive line allowed seven sacks. Seven!
* Josh Allen, you are supposed to pancake defenders. They are not supposed to pancake you… on virtually every play. Tim Allen would have been a better option at right guard.
* The Bucs held the ball for for 21:22 to the Packers 38:38.
The Bucs should just bring in Arroyo this evening, pat him on the back and thank him for trying to do the impossible. Give him a Christmas bonus and tell him to spend this week with his family and give him free use of Team Glazer’s copier so he can make resumes.
At this point, with one game left, why continue this madness?
December 21st, 2014 at 6:18 pm
Joe, I agree but the ultimate blame lies with Lovie. He’s done nothing to help this kid, nothing. At the very least he could have hired a veteran coach to act as a consultant.
Arroyo is obviously running the offense that Lovie wants
December 21st, 2014 at 6:18 pm
Yeah…
he can’t run block
or
pass block
December 21st, 2014 at 6:20 pm
This organization deserves to be boycotted until the Stooges sell. We will never be winners with the kids running things. They are clueless on evaluation of coaching talent and GM talent. SMH.
December 21st, 2014 at 6:20 pm
Yeah…Arroyo also can’t throw the ball worth a damn.
Good God, nobody could coordinate this untalented offense.
Blame the guy that assembled this motley bunch of clowns – LOVIE!
December 21st, 2014 at 6:21 pm
Bagel runs to Pantera? That’s it. This franchise can’t even get the basics right let alone the media and blogger cover guys. For bagels send some dude with a Masters Degree in Phys Ed to Einsteins!
December 21st, 2014 at 6:21 pm
I’m all for pulling the plug a ‘Experiment: Arroyo’, as an OC. I am NOT in favor of tossing Arroyo, the QB coach. He has yet to show that he can/cannot be an effective QB coach. He hasn’t had even ONE week in that capacity. If Lovie wants to clean house, that’s fine, but to fire Arroyo because he couldn’t do SOMEONE ELSE’S job…
December 21st, 2014 at 6:21 pm
Arroyo should pick up some boxes, book a flight to Canada, and Leave a letter of resignation of Lovie’s desk effective next weekend!
December 21st, 2014 at 6:22 pm
But Joe this was the 21st ranked defense in the league. A REAL challenge!
At this point, with one game left, why continue this madness?
It made sense during the bye week. But the season is over. Dumping Arroyo doesn’t really do anything but perhaps provide a minimum of balm for the peoed fans.
I get your emotion and agree with it. But it doesn’t make any difference at this point so might as well do the class thing and let him finish the season.
You used to be more charitable about Arroyo, as in he sucks, but he’s in over his head and it’s not his fault that Lovie and Tedford placed him in this no win situation.
I used to love the Sam Wyche misdirection jokes…Hey we may be small but at least we’re slow.
Hey Arroyo may have been in over his head but at least he had no talent to work with.
December 21st, 2014 at 6:22 pm
No doubt Joe!! A Pop Warner Program is where Arroyo and his clown belong, however I would hate to wish that on anyone.
December 21st, 2014 at 6:25 pm
Lovie will bring him back next year.
This team is the Browns of the AFC, welcome to suckville Bucs fans
December 21st, 2014 at 6:26 pm
As Lovie would say he gives us the best opportunity to win. This is beyond pathetic how much more do But fans have to suffer.
December 21st, 2014 at 6:30 pm
Arroyo isn’t the only one… Lovie and his staff should do the Tampa team a favor and just go elsewhere….
December 21st, 2014 at 6:31 pm
Offensive line is where it all starts, playcalling isn’t really relevant if you can’t execute anything up front. Not that Arroyo is great or anything, but it’s poor coaching in a lot of areas that is hurting this team
December 21st, 2014 at 6:32 pm
Listening to Lovie’s presser today,and He’s throwing Arroyo under the bus too. This coach is a joke!
December 21st, 2014 at 6:33 pm
I agree with all of the dissatisfaction with the coaching. However, who hired them and pays them? This is first and foremost an ownership problem. It starts at the top.
December 21st, 2014 at 6:47 pm
I hang this on Lovie, and his stubborn refusal to play Mike Glennon when everyone on the team, everyone in the stands,.. and even SOME of the media knows that Mike Glennon “Gives us the best chance to win”! FIRE the LIAR! That is what I would put up on a Billboard!
December 21st, 2014 at 6:48 pm
Speaking for Pablo
“Pablo wants you to lay off his “homeboy” Arroyo…..Pablo thinks if we had a QB like Sanchez and Oline with Manny Ramirez & Louis Vasqez…..Arroyo would be just fine” Pablo knows best”
December 21st, 2014 at 6:50 pm
When your job is to put points on the board and you can only put 3?! Seriously, why are these guys getting paid
December 21st, 2014 at 6:52 pm
It starts at the top!
Coordinators and position coaches get too much credit when things go well and too much blame when things don’t go well. It’s football – not rocket science, brain mapping, or finding the cure for cancer. These guys have all been playing the sport for many, many years. This offense that LOVIE has assembled is just talentless, except for the wide receivers.
December 21st, 2014 at 7:00 pm
Is it just me or does amicus Arroyo look like Maynard G. Krebs?
December 21st, 2014 at 7:00 pm
Is it just me or does amicus Arroyo look like Maynard G. Krebs?
December 21st, 2014 at 7:00 pm
Sorry about the double post.
December 21st, 2014 at 7:02 pm
Marcus.*
December 21st, 2014 at 7:07 pm
Yup, somewhere Josh Freeman is rolling….literally.
December 21st, 2014 at 7:08 pm
In all fairness to arroyo, and to McCown, that oline was the root cause of todays loss. McCown only panicked because he had no time at all. Arroyo isn’t the one on the field.
That said, both need to go…after the last game.
We are acweekvand a day from some firings. I can be patient. We just better not win the last game.
December 21st, 2014 at 7:21 pm
@DavePear
Dang you must be as old as me! I’m probably the only one hear who picked up that Dobie Gillis-Maynard G Krebs reference and I’m going to be 67 Tuesday!:-)
December 21st, 2014 at 7:22 pm
BTW Dave….bonus age points if you remember the actor who played Maynard.
No cheating with the Googles.
December 21st, 2014 at 7:23 pm
Can we really rip on Arroyo and leave Warhop out of it. Imagine saying you’re the Tampa Bay Bucs offensive line coach. Will Warhop ever work again?
December 21st, 2014 at 7:28 pm
I can understand the frustrations with Arroyo but where are the calls to kick Warhop straight out of town. At least Arroyo did not claim to be an OC but Warhop masquerading as an O line coach is a joke. The O line is the biggest part of the problem so start the coaching pink slips with the one most to blame ….. waste of space Warhop !!!
December 21st, 2014 at 7:31 pm
Bob Denver AKA Gilligan
December 21st, 2014 at 7:35 pm
Maybe, maybe not. Lovie’s smart enough to see what we see but doesn’t act week after week. At some point you have to recognize Lovie’s got the guys he wants coaching and playcalling making it foolish to expect anything to change. This is what Chicago fans hated about Lovie.
December 21st, 2014 at 7:45 pm
It’s not just Arroyo. It’s npt just McCown. It’s not just the offensive line. It’s everything combined like a perfect storm of mediocrity. First and foremost we need to bring in an offensive coordinator who can get the most out of his offense with a strong game plan built around our strengths that expose opponents weakness’.
Next we need a quarterback that can execute the coordinators plan. I doubt that Mariotta or Winston or Glennon are franchise guys however ANYBODY is an upgrade over McCown.
Finally we need a physical talented offensive line. I’m in favor of drafting either Andrus Peat or Brandon Scheriff to play opposite of Dotson. If Orlando Franklin walks from Denver this spring The Bucs should really take a look at him. Lamar Hundley could also br available and may be a good upgrade over EDS.
If the Bucs can make some smart not necsasarily flashy moves this spring then our talented playmakers should light defenses up. Or at least get more than SIX first downs.
December 21st, 2014 at 8:39 pm
Dave FTW Yes Denver was actually far more famous for Gilligan than Maynard.
Although I actually liked Maynard better than Gilligan. Probably because I was so young and could appreciate silly more than later when I reached high school.
December 21st, 2014 at 8:43 pm
more weak sauce delivered to you by team glazer….they reek of ‘pathetic’
December 21st, 2014 at 8:53 pm
Why aren’t people calling for Warhop’s firing? It’s your perogative to hate coach Smith but Warhop is the o-line coordinator. WARHOP I say, WARHOP!
December 21st, 2014 at 11:33 pm
Arroyo is doing a job he wasn’t hired to do. The backbone of the offense, from an on-field standpoint, is the line. The horrible line play has a lot to do with the lackluster performance from the offense. The coordinator and QB are part of the equation but the offense often goes as the line goes.
December 21st, 2014 at 11:58 pm
STPeteBucsfan: ah I remember watching all the Gilligan Island reruns on WTOG along with all their other great (from a youthful point of view) programming like Dr Paul Bearer’s Creature Feature, Gordon Solie’s Championship Wrestling from Florida and the Tarzan movies (mostly Johnny Weismuller movie filmed up in Silver Springs)…. Quality TV from the precable days. I did not get into Maynard/Dobie Gillis until the advent of TVLand on cable which is good on all that nostalgia tv like Route 66, Dragnet, etc….
December 22nd, 2014 at 12:06 am
It doesn’t matter who is calling the plays if McClown is running the offense. I can only hope Lovie is leaving that idiot in there to do his best to secure the first pick in the draft.
December 22nd, 2014 at 12:08 am
StPete,
Happy Birthday! On Tuesday, I know but I’ll probably forget by then.
December 22nd, 2014 at 12:36 am
so how many ex-buc offensive coordinators that have been disparaged here are doing well now somewhere else?
i think it is all the defensive coaches that are to blame for the offense.
December 22nd, 2014 at 2:22 am
Bring on Inconito, Cutler and two picks from Da Bears plus Philbin as OC. Draft and sit Winston, fix the O line through the draft. Yes, Bears will have to give up picks and Cutler … Just remember, I said it first, don’t go hating, wait for it.