Lovie Likes Glennon On Roster
December 18th, 2014
Bucs QB Mike Glennon discusses his mystery status.
Yesterday seemed to be Mike Glennon Day at One Buc Palace.
The affable and polite Bucs quarterback of the past and quarterback of the future but not quarterback of the present was available to speak with the local pen and mic club.
It sure seems like Glennon’s season is done, based on the words and actions of Bucs coach Lovie Smith, even though current starter Josh McCown is circling the drain with his garish turnovers each and every week (when is the last time you saw a quarterback shot put a fumble 25 yards downfield?).
Glennon told Woody Cummings of The Tampa Tribune that, yes, he does believe he truly is the Bucs quarterback of the future, despite benchings by Lovie twice since January.
“I don’t see why not,” Glennon said Wednesday when asked if he thought he still figured into the Bucs’ plans going forward. “I mean, that’s what’s been told to me. That’s been the communication throughout.
“I mean, that talk (about Winston and Mariota) is out there. But that’s up to the head coach and the general manager to decide. Right now, I’m just doing the same thing I’ve always been doing.
“I have my (daily and weekly) routine, and I’ll just stick with that and prepare, and if anything comes up, if something happens (to McCown), I’ll be ready. When it comes to who’s playing, that’s for the head coach to decide. Sure, I want to be out there playing. But right now I’m going to do what they ask and whatever that is, I’m going to do do that to the best of my ability.’’
Later, Lovie was peppered with questions about Glennon. The head coach never gave any indication that Glennon, barring an injury to McCown, will ever take a snap for the Bucs this season.
“I think Josh gives us our best opportunity [to win],” Lovie said. “That’s not necessarily a knock against Mike. We start 11 guys, you can say that about every player that we dress. Quarterback just isn’t a position where you’re going to play a lot of guys. Kind of simple as that. It’s no knock against Mike. This is what we think gives us the best opportunity to play, period.
“His future right now is he’s on our football team. We’re not talking on the future right now. The future is about that last press conference after the season. Right now, we’re talking – it’s just all things are geared towards the present and Green Bay. And right now, we’ll have a quarterback starting out there this week that gives us the best opportunity. If you’re on our roster right now, we like you being on our roster. I don’t know what else I can say besides that.”
There are all sorts of ways to read into this. Joe is on record saying Lovie doesn’t trust Glennon being coached up by acting offensive coordinator Marcus Arroyo, who is even more wet-behind-the-ears than Glennon is, in terms of NFL experience.
There also is the underlying factor that the Bucs may use Glennon as trade bait this offseason. If he goes out and happens to stink the joint up, in part, because of the Bucs’ rotten offense, his trade value plummets.
Remember: The Bucs are going to have a new offensive coordinator in a few weeks. This we do know. Said new offensive coordinator may not even want Glennon, instead, wanting to develop Jameis Winston or Marcus Mariota. If that is the case, almost certainly the Bucs would be looking to move Glennon for a draft pick or, say, as part of a package for a guard.
To hear more from Lovie, click on the arrow below. Audio player courtesy of Joe’s friends at WDAE-AM 620.
December 18th, 2014 at 6:16 am
We need to work a trade with the stinking Panthers for Derek Anderson….I dont care how, just DO IT!
December 18th, 2014 at 6:50 am
I really don’t know who Liar Smith thinks he’s fooling with this BS. “Real” Bucs fans aren’t going to take that sh!t sandwich (well maybe the blindly optimistic 38%’ers). We have watched this team long before Lovie got here and while he has been here.
Anybody who is a “real” Bucs fan knows McClown sucks! How does he give us the best chance to win when he turns the ball over like a high schooler every damn game? Glennon is not better by much but he sure as hell is better than McClown. If Lovie actually believed his own nonsensical speeches he wouldn’t be benching the better, younger quarterback with potential for the old, career backup, lost cause veteran in a season which is lost in terms of trying to make the playoffs. The only meaning in these games is not to win, but to see what you have in your players, the ones that are worth keeping around and the ones that gotta go, and to develop the young ones.
If Glennon is the plan for the future, why not give him the opportunity to play when losing has little effect on the season? He needs the experience, he needs the familiarity, and most of all it will only help him get better. What does playing McClown do? Nothing. A win with him means nothing, and he will be retiring in the next couple seasons.
But no, he is trade bait. Lovie doesn’t want him to get killed behind the atrocious O-line he and his lapdog assembled. And if he plays poorly, nobody will want him.
December 18th, 2014 at 7:07 am
@Mariota “Ditto” Well said!
December 18th, 2014 at 7:14 am
I don’t know why anybody would think ANY NFL coach would want to be honest in their dealings with the media. Only a fool would come out and lay all of their cards on the table and then discuss what their real plans for the future would be. Belichick, Gibbs, Walsh, Parcells, Shula made a living out of not telling the media anything useful or very truthful to weaken themselves and so their opponents can get an edge. I don’t know why you expect NFL coaches and GMs to be honest and and then hold it against them when they aren’t.
December 18th, 2014 at 7:32 am
Notice, Lovie never said “best chance to win”
He said “This is what we think gives us the best opportunity to play, period.”
WTF does that mean? Seriously, WTF does that sentence mean?
December 18th, 2014 at 7:46 am
I know it won’t happen because Lovie will want McCown to be the backup behind whoever is brought in next year, and rightfully so since he has a ton of experience and knows the game even if he can’t play it, but I would like to see Glennon on the team next year. His first year he had a coach that didn’t believe that pro level QBs needed to be coached and this year his QB coach isn’t even paying attention to him at all. I still don’t think that we have any idea what he’s capable of and if he goes somewhere else and blows up, it won’t be all that surprising simply because he finally had someone take the time to teach him the pro game.
December 18th, 2014 at 7:48 am
@Brandon – You’re talking to a wall man. I’ve been beating that drum all year, and yet, they still kvetch to no end on here about it. I’m sure that if Lovie had his way he wouldn’t say anything unless there was something to say. Just because he’s required to be at the podium doesn’t mean that he needs to pull the curtain aside and let everyone see what’s going on behind the scenes.
December 18th, 2014 at 7:49 am
Other coach’s around the NFL recently sat their starting QB’s while being out of playoff contention, Lovie should do the same and give Glennon the last few games.
December 18th, 2014 at 7:55 am
Joe I completely agree with you, we need Winston! He’s by far the better QB compared to Mariotta. I think the media has overblown his “issues” just like they did with Cam Newton when he was drafted.
December 18th, 2014 at 8:18 am
McCown is not better than Glennon. I sincerely question Lovie Smith’s ability to play the best players, thus giving is the best chance to win. Pathetic.
December 18th, 2014 at 8:42 am
Lovie Smith: The Grinch Who Stole Christmas
December 18th, 2014 at 8:42 am
Meh. What do you expect lovie to say. Neither Qb will be here next year.
Got my Tannehill jersey baby!
December 18th, 2014 at 8:52 am
@Ali….
And Cam has done what in the NFL?
December 18th, 2014 at 8:53 am
Brandon and Patrick,
We don’t care what Lovie says, we care about 2-12 and being too stubborn to do the “right” thing.
December 18th, 2014 at 8:54 am
This is the guy you want developing Winston/Mariota?? Frightening!
December 18th, 2014 at 8:58 am
I dont expect lovie to show all his cards or be 100% honest but the smoke he tries blowing up our as$es all the time is getting really old..
December 18th, 2014 at 9:01 am
@SteveK – Lovie is playing Dotson at LT during games instead of in practice to get ready for next year. He’s playing McCown even though Glennon could use the development and makes fewer mistakes than McCown does. There’s never any urgency in anything that they do at the end of a game, even when we’re very much in it and clock management could mean a win. He’s put key players on IR. It’s pretty clear that Lovie is in evaluation mode for next year and realizes what the benefits of having the #1 pick are. Much like all the things that you guys get upset about him not telling us, he’ll never say it, but I think they’re locking up that pick. Not sure what they want to do with it, but having it would do a lot of good to round out this team.
December 18th, 2014 at 9:01 am
I like Glennon on the roster even next year. He’s a cheaper backup to Mariota than McCown.
December 18th, 2014 at 9:05 am
Why does Joe always try to “read into” statements made by the coach. I think you would be better served, and be much smarter, by just taking the coach’s comments literally instead of trying to find statements that are intended to mislead the masses. My impression is that you don’t have a very good batting average when you try to do this.
December 18th, 2014 at 9:07 am
“Lovie Likes Glennon On Roster” just not on the field.
December 18th, 2014 at 9:08 am
If Lovie thinks McCown gives us the best chance, that is, by definition, a knock against Glennon.
December 18th, 2014 at 9:14 am
If the HC think McCown gives them the best opportunity to win then we need a new HC.
December 18th, 2014 at 9:15 am
Remember Smith is a Retard win it comes to Offense.
December 18th, 2014 at 9:23 am
Smith is a moron when it comes to anything
December 18th, 2014 at 9:31 am
What’s more demoralizing than the losses is being associated with this band of clown fans. This has got to be the worst fan base in the sport. I’m honestly surprised that some of you can pick your knuckles up off for floor to type on a keyboard.
December 18th, 2014 at 9:34 am
Next months headline. “Lovie reunites with Jay Cutler in Tampa.”
December 18th, 2014 at 9:34 am
This sounds and feels more and more like Chicago every week and that turned out disastrous!
December 18th, 2014 at 9:38 am
How exactly was Lovie’s stint there “disastrous”? They were 10-6 when he left. The team did just fine last year with the players he left them. They imploded this year, two years removed from Lovie being there. How are you associating him to that?
December 18th, 2014 at 9:45 am
Here is what some of the idiots expect Smith to say in his press conference….
“We aren’t playing Glennon because we are afraid he’ll either get hurt or play poorly behind our awful offensive line”….”We plan to trade him to Arizona….as a matter of fact, they’ve offered us a 3rd rounder & we are thrilled”
December 18th, 2014 at 9:50 am
nah Tampa…. I just want someone like Billicheat that does not throw any BS. maybe something like. McCown is our starter. next question.
December 18th, 2014 at 9:50 am
@TBBF – I wouldn’t be surprised if that were what’s going on behind the scenes. I think Licht has been burning the phones up the last month trying to work out whatever they can to get something for the players that aren’t contributing the way we want them to. That might even be part of the trade clause with the team is that we not play him, barring injury, so we don’t risk injuring him before the other team can get him in the door. Or, we really like the pick that we know we’re going to get for him and we don’t want to do anything to give the buyer cold feet before it’s official. There is a whole other side to this business that we have no idea about but everyone is ready to scream from the rafters because the part of the picture that we see isn’t where it should be yet.
December 18th, 2014 at 9:51 am
damn my dragging knuckles are sore.
December 18th, 2014 at 9:51 am
Starting to agree with Patrick and Brandon more and more. They give actual rational reasons behind their opinions instead of “lovies a liar, bahh Bahh. ” lovie doesn’t know what he’s doing wahh Wahh”
Jeez some of y’all need to get off jbf for a while and go outside.
December 18th, 2014 at 9:54 am
Chalk up a victory to reasoning and rational thought. Who says it’s lost on this generation? Well, I’ll still say it, but it’s nice to see that it has its day in the sun from time to time.
December 18th, 2014 at 9:57 am
Patrick –
Everyday you come here to assault and bully people for their opinions. That makes you as bad a fan as you’re accusing others to be! Calling people guerrillas because they don’t like losing and being the worst team in the NFL is not very informed.
Clearly people are tired of losing. I won’t even venture into the 4-12 references by Lovie.
I call it poetic justice because now he has to refer to his failure not another man’s. He’s been really bad and overhyped as a HC.
You can endorse him but I pass and I’m counting down his time here, he’s just a figment or reference to our recent glory years. We need a HC that will create a new legacy and establish a franchise QB.
December 18th, 2014 at 10:03 am
amen architek.
I am convinced some guys like patrick are actually just planted here to stir up the conversation. that or blood relatives of lovie. lol
December 18th, 2014 at 10:04 am
Also Patrick don’t forget Lovie is the reason they signed Cutler to the big deal right after his departure – he and that GM totally flubbed up by giving Cutler that contract. Lovie was involved with that because they started working on it before he left.
Yes they went 10-6 but loss the meaningful games to get them to the post season. If he were so good and polished a HC why were Bear fans so happy he left????
Yeah and guess what he’s doing the same things he did in Chicago.
December 18th, 2014 at 10:04 am
@Joe
A journalistic or logistical question. Smart people, especially anybody who has worked in your field as I have, understand the pressure you guys face with interviews. It’s a delicate proposition. Ask truly tough questions and see if the athlete coach will ever talk to you again.
But could you do us a favor. Simply ask Lovie if he’s aware of how freaking pissed off fans get (you can obviously word it better but I AM pissed) at being told stuff that simply doesn’t add up.
If a second year pro prospect QB can’t beat out another QB with McCown’s turnovers and record it’s clear to EVERYBODY that the second year pro is not worth much.
I didn’t just fall off the turnip truck. Bite me Lovie! Stop freaking insulting our intelligence.
I don’t expect Lovie to tell the entire truth. But he doesn’t have to outright lie and embellish and treat his fans like we’re all a bunch of morons.
You can’t be an NFL QB for two seasons who can’t even play ahead of McCown and be worth a damn. MGMer’s I’m not saying that’s the truth. I’m saying it’s freaking CLEAR that’s Lovie’s assessment.
December 18th, 2014 at 10:07 am
I’m going to go ahead and disagree with you there Architek. I would hardly consider calling people out for spewing mindless vitriol because the team is having a down year being a bad fan. I get that people are frustrated after the team has lost for so long but the fans holding Lovie in such contempt because they’re tire of losing for over a decade is no different than someone a woman taking out her aggression from previous boyfriends on the ones that follow.
I certainly don’t like the team losing either and I want them to be better. The difference between me and the guerrillas is that I am not a slave to my baser emotions and I can look beyond flinging my poo at the team and coach to how the team can improve and identify the aspects that are promising.
December 18th, 2014 at 10:09 am
@Brandon and Patrick
Your points are all valid BTW. I do not expect Lovie to come out and say he doesn’t have confidence in Glennon or disparage MGM in any way. Just don’t say anything! Stop saying he’s the QB of the future!!! If he IS the QB of the future Lovie should be fired! Why wouldn’t he play the QB of the future with nothing left on the line?
I think Patrick and TBBF probably have figured out the real reason and like Brandon I don’t expect Lovie to come out and admit that. But he doesn’t have to tell lies that make us look like morons.
December 18th, 2014 at 10:12 am
“His future right now is he’s on our football team. We’re not talking on the future right now. The future is about that last press conference after the season. Right now, we’re talking – it’s just all things are geared towards the present and Green Bay. And right now, we’ll have a quarterback starting out there this week that gives us the best opportunity. If you’re on our roster right now, we like you being on our roster. I don’t know what else I can say besides that.”
I don’t know how much more obvious you can get than that. Frankly, I have to wonder, if Mike Glennon is too stupid to not see Lovie is refusing to commit past the end of season now, then he’s too stupid to play QB in the NFL.
FYI, Lovie isn’t going to come out and say anything substantial. Although he claims to be focusing on the next game (and probably is for the most part), he views getting that #1 pick as winning at this point. And I bet the Glazers do too.
I’ve NEVER seen a head coach come out and say, “I don’t think such and such has what it takes, we don’t want him on the team.” during the season. And probably not leading into the draft either, so as not to forecast plans.
I get a kick out of those of you who call Lovie a liar. He says nothing every other head coach says. Their job doesn’t stop on the field. They have to do what they can to sell the team to the fans as well. NO COACH is going to say, “We’re rebuilding, and it will take a couple years.”
That would cause the fans to not buy tickets.
Another year and Lovie WILL have this team playing very well. And all of you naysayers will pretend you believed all along, while some of us really are.
December 18th, 2014 at 10:13 am
You can’t be serious about Lovie being responsible for the Cutler contract…… unreal. So, because they may have been discussing it when he was there that means that the team has no choice but to move forward with it? They couldn’t choose to franchise him and see how he does or even give him a lesser deal? Get out of here.
December 18th, 2014 at 10:14 am
Ya if you do not kiss up to lovie than there are 3 or 4 on JBF that just cant stop from insulting everyone else for not having there same opinion, Rather have my knuckles dragging that have my head up this HC as$.
December 18th, 2014 at 10:15 am
You could put a laugh track behind most Lovie soundclips.
December 18th, 2014 at 10:17 am
^^Then have^^
December 18th, 2014 at 10:19 am
@flmike…it means it gives us the best opportunity for the first draft pick. I am losing patience with Lovie. I want to see passion and fire. Lovie=yawwwwwwnnnn.
December 18th, 2014 at 10:26 am
What plan could be in place that would make all of these “strange” actions by Lovie make sense? ONLY a plan to accuire a number one pick. Anything else and you guys are roasting your brains in Fantasy Land for NO reason. Accept the jagged pill and see the truth.
December 18th, 2014 at 10:27 am
Speaking for Pablo
“Pablo is disturbed by “knuckle dragging”…..Pablo has been accused of this all his life”
December 18th, 2014 at 10:29 am
I like Glennon on the roster as well, he’s a far better back-up than most teams have.
Get Mariota and then have Glennon stick around to hold the clipboard.
December 18th, 2014 at 10:50 am
Just watch the actions and stop listening to the words. Just watch the actions and stop listening to the words. Just watch the actions and read Patrick in VA’s words.
December 18th, 2014 at 10:53 am
Lovie is going to draft Mariotta, trade Glennon and restructure McClown’s contract and make it more in line with that of a back up QB. Smith is not going to say anything at this point of the season. The record says it all.
December 18th, 2014 at 10:57 am
Have to agree. With Lovies lack of of endorsement and a new OC coming in, at least I sure hope so, who will most likely want “his QB”, Glennons future here looks bleak. I just hope he goes to a team with some competent ownership, management and coaching where he can develop properly.
December 18th, 2014 at 11:21 am
Again Glennon will remain a NFL QB longer than Lovie remains a NFL HC. Two more losses, especially blowouts, and Glennon may remain a Buccaneer longer than Lovie! Time to pick my dragging knuckles up off the touch pad
December 18th, 2014 at 11:44 am
“His future right now is he’s on our football team. We’re not talking on the future right now. The future is about that last press conference after the season. ”
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And 38% of people read the Lovespeak and aren’t laughing?
December 18th, 2014 at 12:21 pm
Pile on with the disgust of all things Lovie. Ignore his possee who claim to take the high road of no criticism towards Lovie and his actions.
December 18th, 2014 at 3:37 pm
“We are 2 and 12, and Josh is our Quarterback.”
December 18th, 2014 at 3:43 pm
lovie is somehow, someway, going to get his boy, cutler down here in tampa. you can forget about a QB with the first pick, it aint gonna happen, you know how much he trusts and believes in veteran QB’s. he will probably trade the first choice for extra picks, go heavy on defense, and maybe some O-lineman. probably trade glennon too, and keep Mcclown for backup with kaftka as third string resource. their has already been some musing on the espn shows about this possibility. I hate to say this but, this scenario, fits right in line with stoneface lovies DNA. and this is why I say get rid of this SOB before it is too late. I hope that in no way, shape or form, they trade for cutler, and his outrageous contract, if the glazers are fine withthis, then ya’ll better get ready for a lot of underperforming, basement dwelling, type or (brand) of football that we have been buying here for years. merry Christmas everyone… except for you lovie
December 18th, 2014 at 4:00 pm
Speaking for Maria Pablo’s mistress.
“Yes Pablo is a knuckledragger. But I like that in a man. Muy Caliente!”
December 19th, 2014 at 4:42 am
After reading all the posts, all I can say is fire Lovey and have him take his trolls with him. Glennon has been jurked around and is now being punished for something his brother did. That really speaks well of Lovey doesn’t it? I can not wait till Glennon gets to be a free agent and gets on another team that will give him a fair shot and show you A-Holes what we could have had.