Jameis Watch: “Sanctuary”
December 31st, 2014
Crab-legs-stealing, BB-gun-shooting, obscenity-hollering, Heisman-Trophy-winning, national champion James Winston, the pride of Florida State University, continues to look like a much better quarterback prospect than Mike Glennon and Josh McCown.
It’s Joe’s daily nugget on the Jameis Watch, celebrating the best quarterback to wear No. 5 ever in the state of Florida.
Yesterday, Joe brought word that Bucs general manager Jason Licht wants a laundromat-behaving, football-addict for his signal-caller.*
Now some might thing that dismisses Florida State quarterback Jameis Winston because he is also a baseball guy, and a helluva pitcher. But last week while preparing for the Rose Bowl, Winston let it be known football is his religion and the 50-yard line is his tabernacle, writes Natalie Pierre of AL.com.
The quarterback said there was no relief that he gained, and that nothing changed when former Florida Supreme Court Judge Major Harding announced that he was found not to have violated Florida State’s Code.
“I really don’t focus on that,” said Winston, who addressed the media this week for the first time since Harding announced his ruling just over a week ago. “I usually just use football as my sanctuary, and focus on my academics, and do the things I need to do.”
And given Winston’s resume, that would include winning.
Joe just doesn’t understand how so many Bucs fans recoil at the thought of Winston leading the Bucs. You can’t tell Joe that right now he isn’t better than Josh McCown. And unlike McCown, all Winston does is win.
Isn’t that what Bucs fans want, wins?
Even Winston’s harshest critics have to commend him for his laser-like focus on football. Nothing seems to rattle the guy.
* — If Licht drafts a quarterback.
December 31st, 2014 at 3:05 pm
People who say mariota is better than this kid are just uneducated. simple as that.
December 31st, 2014 at 3:06 pm
amen…
December 31st, 2014 at 3:11 pm
“Joe just doesn’t understand how so many Bucs fans recoil at the thought of Winston leading the Bucs.”
Because it reeks of the other #5?
December 31st, 2014 at 3:12 pm
“All he does is win”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UM7rjhBhVQ8
December 31st, 2014 at 3:19 pm
No comparison to Josh Freeman. None. Freeman wore #1 at KState. Wink wink!!!
Well Joe I want Winston, a pocket passer who moves well when he has to and has a great pocket awareness. To me Mariotta will be a running QB who will burn out, get injured (already did in college) by big men hitting him and is used to throwing in the big old Oregon spread O defended by kids in College.
No thanks
December 31st, 2014 at 3:20 pm
Joe, I know you post “what Joe finds interesting” so on and so forth but there is another quarterback who hasn’t declared just yet just like Winston. I’m sure most of your readers would like to read about him as well. Not trying to tell you how to run your site just a suggestion.
December 31st, 2014 at 3:21 pm
Mariota is going to beat winston joe
December 31st, 2014 at 3:22 pm
The dreaded number 5 curse
December 31st, 2014 at 3:24 pm
Take Winston. Don’t look back.
December 31st, 2014 at 3:26 pm
LOL the Joes really don’t like me.
December 31st, 2014 at 3:32 pm
We cannot wait for Mariota to figure out the NFL system. Winston is the only logical pick for the Bucs. One things is for certain both QBs will have their background looked at like its never been looked at. These background checks are going to be interesting We haven’t heard anything about Winston doing drugs, failing his classes, etc. Those two incidents were the only ones, and both were not followed up by the legal system. But what is in Mariota’s background? We will soon find out, Im sure.
Winston is ready now, he has the leadership, the football IQ, the intelligence, the accuracy, and the skills to be ready to go for Tampa. Have Licht hire a security guard, keep the Barracuda’s on South Howard away from him, have him bunk in Derrick Brooks’ spare bedroom and we will all be good. Mariota will get killed as soon as he steps on the field. He will be another Jake Locker, Blake Bortles, and RG III all rolled into one. Lets forget the press and go with what makes sense for our team. Winston….
December 31st, 2014 at 3:33 pm
If we let Winston slip away, it will be another player among a mountain of great players we let go.
This just in…PFT announced Connar Barth AFC Special Teams player of the month. Yet another one we let get away.
December 31st, 2014 at 3:33 pm
I have to agree with the Barker, I would be satisfied with either Mariotta or Winston. I think both are winners and deserve the Top Prospect tags that they have earned. Ultimately though personality and behavior can make or break a team and player. Raheem was Glued to our former Sleepy Leaky #5, when Schiano took over he was not. Thus the behavior issues reared their ugly head spiraling our team into QB Constipation as Glennon had no where the talent that Freeman had. With our team teetering on another season that may see the end of Lovie’s career we may be in the same seat we were in when Schiano took over if we see a new HC after next season. Winston will definitely need to be handled or he could very well be the next coming of Mike Williams or Aqib Talib in behavioral issues. The “Three Stooges” (Glazers) should tread lightly if they allow selection of Winston. They must hire a full time handler and mentor for the extremely talented QB. The handler should know his whereabouts no matter what, even when he goes to take a crap. Don’t think you need this type of tight grip on someone like Mariotta. I can only imagine a scenario where Winston shows signs of brilliance but it does not save Lovie’s job and then a new coaching staff comes in and treats him like Schiano did Freeman thus ending a promising career and starting over looking for another franchise QB. While I was not a fan of drafting Freeman once we had him we had to go all in with him. I still place the complete collapse and failure of Freeman at the feet of Schiano.
December 31st, 2014 at 3:33 pm
We aren’t comparing him to McCown or Glennon but to Mariota and who would be the best to lead this franchise. To me he’s the wrong choice and Mariota is the right choice. Sorry Joe but your recent selections have not been good at all so anything you say I’d go with the opposite. Thanks for not choosing Mariota.. Even though everyone else is..
December 31st, 2014 at 3:34 pm
Pistol Pete is right on the money.
December 31st, 2014 at 3:36 pm
Doesnt matter what Buc Fans want, Lovie doesn’t want to win. That was clear when he handed McCown the starting Job and it was even more clear when he refused make any QB changes all year long except when McCown was hurt.
December 31st, 2014 at 3:38 pm
It’s simple Joe…I can’t root for an alleged rapist. The evidence might not be good enough to prevent the FSU good old boy network from prosecuting but that doesn’t mean he didn’t do it. The same could have happened to Ray rice if that elevator video didn’t exist.
December 31st, 2014 at 3:40 pm
You just said yesterday these guys are being told and rehearsed on what to say to the public, and the press. How do we take what he says as genuine? Plus, like others have eloquently pointed out, which I happen to agree with, why would we spend the #1 pick on the all consensus #2 QB? Maybe you should have wanted the Bucs to win their last game instead of taking the loser mentality and suggesting they tank. Then we would have the #2 pick, and right in line to take the #2 QB. And don’t holler at me because your pen and mic brethren choose Mariota as consensus #! over Winston.
December 31st, 2014 at 3:44 pm
I don’t want Winston because he was accused of rape I know they didn’t prosecute because of a lack of evidence. I never heard anyone say he didn’t do it. So the thought of some girl he could have raped has to look at him in a bucs uniform makes me sick. It’s not like he hasn’t got in trouble before and it’s out of character. I love the bucs but if they ignore his past and take him #1 I don’t think I could support them anymore and I would bet I wouldn’t be the only one.
December 31st, 2014 at 3:49 pm
If Joe doesn’t understand, he’s blinding himself.
Winston has warts, mostly of his own creation. His play noticeably slipped this year. He wasn’t the one making the wins happen – he was one of the ones putting them in doubt. His maturity and his ability to answer the pressure of the NFL with nothing but desire to become better are in serious question.
He’s got Leaf-like characteristics that are making folks worry that he’s a possible NFL bust in the making, and that’s the reason for the recoil. Hope that makes sense.
Besides, wasn’t Joe also all in on Johnny Football?
December 31st, 2014 at 3:51 pm
I can’t compare this guy to Josh Freeman. I see him as a risk taker, but a driven football guy. A team hype man. Someone loud, energetic and motivating that will bring the most effort out of others. I would love to see him or Marcus on the team. I think Marcus is the safer bet but I think Jamis is the flashy pick. Mike Evans was a flashy pick and he panned out. I’d like either one but if I gotta roll the dice I’m join with Jamis. A tough, clutch, emotional winner. How many guys in the league have off field issues??? I’d like it if Talib were still on our team. Just don’t take a safety with the first pick…
December 31st, 2014 at 3:51 pm
I know it’s hard to believe that a guy that would stand on a table and yell f*** her in the p**** would rape someone. Normal men always do things like that lets get our heads out of our a**
December 31st, 2014 at 3:54 pm
Right Lovie likes losing.
And what great QB was available for Lovie to bring in last year????
December 31st, 2014 at 3:56 pm
While I have started to follow your webpage the last 6 months, with your daily Winston blogs becoming offensive I am forced to drop your webpage until such time as you get your priorities straight.
His off-field activities are so offensive to the general public (everyone except FSU folks), your highlighting him is hard to fathom. Fool me once OK, fool me more than once, not acceptable, and that is exactly what he is..
Sorry I won’t read any relies to this, signing off for the foreseeable future…
Bye. “Offensive” blogs. What are you reading? Did you stop being a Bucs fans because Warren Sapp was enshrined by the team, despite his sketchy past? Joe highlights Jameis because he’s a likely choice of the Bucs, not for any other reason. –Joe
December 31st, 2014 at 4:05 pm
Lets get this straight right now….Winston is faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrr from even thinking of comparing to Freefree!
December 31st, 2014 at 4:08 pm
You guys kill me seriously @BBFL how many women want a baby from a prime millionaire? Kobe, Rothelisburger, Brady women see success & become gold diggers. Jameis is young & immature needing guidance from a person who’s been there. Tampa has not had a real QB in history look what happened when we got Steve Young? Gabbert look better than McCown this year? Beggers can not be choosers half of you haven’t played a down in real compition a act like your real talent evaluators chill with your computer criticism.
December 31st, 2014 at 4:10 pm
yeah profanity and rape go hand in hand.
December 31st, 2014 at 4:12 pm
And it was an internet thing going around at the time (youtube those vids of fhritp)….and he was caught up in it like many at that age caught up in trending things…so what, he said “Fhritp” He didnt say the actual words…..smdh…research it guys. Unreal!
December 31st, 2014 at 4:15 pm
@JW your ok with him possibly rapping that girl. I’m not saying he did but I’m not saying he didn’t. Big Ben is a dirt bag for the things he has done
December 31st, 2014 at 4:15 pm
You anti-Winston folks are so damn ignorant. Just take 30 minutes to look into the “off-field” issues and you’ll see that the guy has gotten a ridiculously bad rap for some absolute BS.
To call him arrogant or dumb just makes you look stupid since every teammate gushes about his intelligence and leadership. These guys go to war with him and love him as a brother. He will be one of the all-time greats, all you have to do is watch the tape. Vision, anticipation, accuracy.
Mariota is 100% system QB. One-read, low risk throws. A lot of screens and gimmick plays that leave a WR wide open. Lots of Manziel type plays too that won’t translate to the NFL.
Watch the tape, and read the actual evidence about the false rape accusation and you won’t sound so damn ignorant when you talk about wanting Mariota. Joe, keep up the Jameis lobbying. If we don’t grab him we will forever regret it.
December 31st, 2014 at 4:19 pm
@ Eric it’s what he said not just profanity come on
December 31st, 2014 at 4:19 pm
All of the individuals who dare to compare Jameis Winston to Josh Freeman just because they wear the same number, Please, do me a favor. Go and watch Josh Freeman’s college tape, and compare it to Jameis Winston’s. Even at Freeman’s best, his pure ability to throw the football and play the QuarterBack position, wasn’t anywhere near as good as Jameis is right now. Jameis Winston very well could be the next Ben Rothlesberger/Steve McNair/Warren Moon. 6’4″ 230 as a red shirt Freshman= 6’4″ 240 as an NFL Rookie. And to loosely quote Charlie Casserly, “Jameis Winston will win a Super Bowl for the team that drafts him.”
December 31st, 2014 at 4:20 pm
All of the individuals who dare to compare Jameis Winston to Josh Freeman just because they wear the same number, Please, do me a favor. Go and watch Josh Freeman’s college tape, and compare it to Jameis Winston’s. Even at Freeman’s best, his pure ability to throw the football and play the QuarterBack position, wasn’t anywhere near as good as Jameis is right now. Jameis Winston very well could be the next Ben Rothlesberger/Steve McNair/Warren Moon. 6’4″ 230 as a red shirt Freshman= 6’4″ 240 as an NFL Rookie. And to loosely quote Charlie Casserly, “Jameis Winston will win a Super Bowl for whatever team that drafts him.”
December 31st, 2014 at 4:39 pm
“It’s simple Joe…I can’t root for an accused rapist”
I can only hope you’re never accused of something serious that you did not do. As much as you and many others might wish it, the lack of prosecution was not due to a Tallahassee old boy network, but was due to a lying, not credible accuser, together with other evidence that pointed to her accusations being full of crap. The details are there for anyone who sincerely wants to take the time to review widely available evidence and form an informed opinion. There are those who would prefer to simply spew out vitriol and hate, and “screw what the truth is”. Take your pick which camp you’d like to be in.
December 31st, 2014 at 4:44 pm
Lovie doesn’t want to win? Please. Marcus is a system QB. Winston has risks, but he will be more durable. I’m waiting for the folks that say, “if the Bucs draft Winston, I will no longer be a fan”. I say farewell. It won’t be any room for you on the bandwagon when this kid lights it up and the Bucs finally become relevant again.
December 31st, 2014 at 4:44 pm
i didn’t side last year with johnny football.
i still like mike glennon. but it doesn’t appear that his future will be with the bucs. so i have to pick between jameis and mariota.
i side with jameis Winston.
i like pocket passers that have a strong
accurate arm. jameis is also very quick to
do his progressions reading who is
open.
December 31st, 2014 at 4:46 pm
I’M TELLING YOU (NOW) THIS KID WILL BE TROUBLE FOR THE BUC’S …….MARK MY WORD, YOU WILL WISH YOU NEVER DRAFTED HIM IF SO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 31st, 2014 at 4:49 pm
It’s simple BFFL, this is America. Where you are innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around. I can root for him because they dropped the investigation. Have you ever had a friend or relative hook up with a girl, the girl want to be his girlfriend, him say no, and the girl get pissed off and claim she was raped? Lets ruin the kid’s life on a whim, even if there is NO EVIDENCE. Florida just had the same thing happen and the girl was found out. I’ll be a Winston fan all day. Again, we are Americans.
December 31st, 2014 at 4:56 pm
Lev Says:
December 31st, 2014 at 3:05 pm
People who say mariota is better than this kid are just uneducated. simple as that.
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Better onfield QB prospect? No Better at running an offense with his particular skill set? Yes. Less of a risk due to immaturity? Yes
I would rather have Mariota by a slight margin over Winston due to Mariota’s lack of off field incidents and impeccable reputation for his work ethic and commitment to the game. For me it is Mariota 1A and Winston 1B. I’ll be happy with either.
December 31st, 2014 at 5:03 pm
Being here in Oregon all I hear and see is about Marcus. Both these players are talented winners… in my opinion and my opinion only I would go with Marcus because of the intangibles which includes intelligence. I’m talking about off the field. A wise man once said that once you give somebody money it makes them more of what they have been all along, which I agree with.
December 31st, 2014 at 5:07 pm
I like Mariota for his quick release, ability to stand in the pocket or out of it and continue to look down field until the receiver is open. It is a beautiful thing to watch him extend plays and throw on the run. And when he throws while running left, wow, it amazes me sometimes. The kid is good and will di fine in the NFL. He likes throwing from the pocket. When asked who he wanted to to be like in the NFL he said Rodgers and Vick. He wants to be like Rodgers in the pocket and wants to move around like Vick.
The season ticket line would be around the stadium and down the highway if we draft this kid.
December 31st, 2014 at 5:21 pm
While I can’t get into Joe’s head to know why Joe writes what he writes…..and I am very aware “Joe writes what interests him”…..we do that Joe pushed for the Bucs to draft Johnny Football….another QB with off-field issues.
Perhaps Joe just considers talent and assumes off-field issues will resolve themselves after a contract is signed….or perhaps…..Joe is simply a smart journalist and knows that putting up a devicive player will cause greater interest.
Regardless…..it doesn’t matter what Joe wants, Tampabaybucfan wants, Pablo wants….it matters what the new OC wants, Lovie, Licht & the Glazers want.
I can live with either…..but prefer the one with the the cleaner background.
December 31st, 2014 at 5:23 pm
How about the Code of Conduct hearing where there was zero burden of proof involved? He didn’t even get a letter of reprimand out of it. Cleared three times, by three different parties. Yet he’s guilty?
Where were you screaming when Adrian Clayborn — who took a plea deal after beating up a cabbie in college — when he was drafted?
smh
December 31st, 2014 at 5:34 pm
“Off-field issues” are overblown. Tell Joe you wouldn’t love to have Dez Bryant on the Bucs roster?
Warren Sapp had red flags (pot and rumors of coke) all over him when he came out. How did he turn out?
Derrick Brooks was getting free shoes and had to sit out to pacify the NCAA. How did he turn out?
Adrian Clayborn beat the s(p)it out of a cabbie and took a plea deal. He has been an angel in the NFL.
All three of those guys did worse things than lifting crab legs and having a potty mouth.
December 31st, 2014 at 5:34 pm
They’re all “system” qbs….just depends on what one of a system it is your team wants to run, if you want to run a standard run to pass system draft Winston, if you want to run a little more wide open pass to run system ala Chip Kelly draft Mariota, personally I prefer a pass to run up tempo wide open offense, I prefer Mariota to Winston, on the field they’re both a gamble, all draft picks are, it’s off the field that worries me, Winston makes horrible decisions poor, imagine giving him $25 million of the Glazers dollars, do you really think that will improve his off field decision making, especially with his friends and family within driving distance. Best thing that can happen for him is to be drafted by a team not in need for him to be the face of the franchise, a place with a strong head coach and support system that will allow him to mature out of the spot light, away from his boys and his family. St Louis, Arizona, NE, GB, somewhere where he can grow the fuk up, I just don’t think he has the equipment to make adult life decisions on his own quite yet.
December 31st, 2014 at 5:37 pm
@joe
In fairness, none of those guys were asked to be the face of a billion dollar franchise, these qbs are….
December 31st, 2014 at 5:38 pm
Joe highlights Jameis because he’s a likely choice of the Bucs, not for any other reason. –Joe
LOL, With Mariota being the consensus number one pick and the Bucs holding the pick your statement makes about as much sense as a porcupine in a balloon store. You write about Winston because YOU want him here. Is that so hard for you to admit
December 31st, 2014 at 5:39 pm
“I would go with Marcus because of intangibles that includes intelligence”
Please! Winston had a 4.0 grade point average coming out of high school and is carrying a 3.6 grade point average at FSU in biomedical engineering! He was accepted to Stanford before picking Florida State.
The kid is not dumb. His background may not be as fortunate as many of us. He has the stigma of black Ebonics because of being raised in a black neighborhood in the Deep South. Don’t show your own ignorance by translating his speech pattern and expressions into “ignorant” or “dumb”. He’s made some immature and ridiculous choices that should disappear with maturity, but he’s NOT dumb.
December 31st, 2014 at 5:43 pm
There was nothing out of the ordinary in the investigation of the case. Thrre was a delay in talking to some witnesses because the girl said she did not want charges filed.
She changed her mind and lawyered up.
They followed the evidence and found statements from independent witnesses that contradicted her story. Those witnesses are her friends.
Totally ordinary investigation including a rape kit.
Her story didnt hold up pure and simple.
December 31st, 2014 at 5:49 pm
“”Joe just doesn’t understand how so many Bucs fans recoil at the thought of Winston leading the Bucs.””
In order to understand the answer to this question, one must ask: How many Bucs fans are SEC college fans? Therein lies your answer. EmbraceTheHate.
December 31st, 2014 at 5:50 pm
Joe. you are probably a better QB prospect than McCown.
Not much of a surprise.
December 31st, 2014 at 5:51 pm
By who? The vast majority of current and former NFL types all have Winston with better NFL-ready skills. It’s the wannabe-GMs who never worked in an NFL front office who largely suggest otherwise.
Again, Joe will be content with Mariota. Joe just thinks Winston, based on research from those who work/worked in the NFL, is the better prospect. Nothing wrong with that.
December 31st, 2014 at 5:53 pm
Ah!
(Shudder to think these same folks would prefer Bo Wallace over Jameis Winston.)
December 31st, 2014 at 5:59 pm
don’t want a thief… don’t want a punk. that simple.
December 31st, 2014 at 6:06 pm
Good point on the sec.
Also a lot of gator fans around here.
After all that is the University that produced the triple murdering tight end……. (allegedly)
December 31st, 2014 at 6:08 pm
Read this article..sure seems like the FSU good old boy network did their best to sweep the Winston rape allegation under the rug.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/04/16/sports/errors-in-inquiry-on-rape-allegations-against-fsu-jameis-winston.html?_r=0
December 31st, 2014 at 6:16 pm
If the bucs want to be represented by a lowlife thief accused rapist property damaging quarterback they should draft Winston. And there is no argument to that because no matter what anyone says that’s exactly what’s he is true or false. If that’s a guy you want you should look in the mirror and question your character
December 31st, 2014 at 6:23 pm
Who were the last two quarterbacks to get drafted in the first round out of Jimbo Fisher’s prostyle offense? How did they do?
December 31st, 2014 at 6:25 pm
Remember the Bucs were one of two teams that brought Richie Incognito in for an interview, right? And Bucs fans nearly creamed in their pants with the thought of him playing for the Bucs.
But Winston is untouchable? Um, kay.
So let’s hold off on the moral outrage, shall we?
December 31st, 2014 at 6:25 pm
Buc fans like not having a qb but complain about not having a qb lol
December 31st, 2014 at 6:26 pm
Try three. And that is a valid point.
December 31st, 2014 at 6:51 pm
Joes, justifying grafting wiston with others behavior sapp, brooks, incognito with respect is not the point. None of those were the first overall pick. I strongly suggest you read the New York times article bffl posted. It’s very detailed and calls the investigation into question. Here is my point again. If Jamies had no off field questions I would be all in on drafting him with the #1 overall pick. I do have on field concerns about mariota and think Winston will make a better pro IF he is able to stay on the field. My concern is that there is TOO much swirling around Winston. The rape allegation may be crap, but it’s not the only off field judgement issue. As the saying goes, where there’s smoke there’s fire. This takes him out of the number spot for me. If we could trade down and roll the dice on him later say 7,8 overall I’m in. Taking him number 1 is way to high given the TOTAL package.
December 31st, 2014 at 6:52 pm
Drafting
December 31st, 2014 at 6:53 pm
LOL Nybucsfan. None of those FSU QB’s were anywhere near the top prospect at the QB position. Winston is 500% better than they were and were massive reaches. Don’t draft Shane Ray either because Michael Sam is out of work. While youre at it, not that many good pass rushers have come from USC lately so don’t draft Leonard Williams!!!
December 31st, 2014 at 6:55 pm
Eric, don’t forget a lot of fsU fans as well… It cuts both ways.
December 31st, 2014 at 6:58 pm
No way Licht risks picking an alleged rapist #1. Wait until Winston has a fat contract and more victims come out against him because I’m sure that is the timing lawyers would advice. Do you really think Licht will risk that distraction. What is he going to say..I didn’t know this about him. Please Joe and FSU fans come to your senses.
December 31st, 2014 at 7:03 pm
Cam Newton has character concerns and he’s lead the panthers to 2 straight division titles. He’s been basically clean since entering the league.
December 31st, 2014 at 7:04 pm
What distraction? Does Winston play like he’s ever been distracted?
Don’t you think finishing 2-14 is a distraction?
Again, all your moralists, where was your outrage when the Bucs drafted Sapp, Brooks, Clayborn, all who have done worse?
Where was your moral outrage when Licht interviewed Incognito?
Helluva lot of double-standards from folks reading this site.
Even Derrick Brooks told Joe this summer that people need to chill on Winston until everything shakes out. And he was/is right.
December 31st, 2014 at 7:26 pm
Were Sapp, Brooks, Clayborn #1 picks…NO. The simple reality is no GM in their right mind will draft an alleged rapist #1. I actually love Winston’s game, but I also have common sense.
December 31st, 2014 at 7:27 pm
Yea Ponder is crap but teams were desperate for QBs that year(Jake Locker and I think Blaine Gabbert) EJ Manuel was a third round talent at best when he was drafted the bills reached teams reach on QBs now because of the rookie pay isn’t that bad anymore just saying JW has showed way more promise than the last few draft classes
December 31st, 2014 at 7:35 pm
good riddance…rapist fan club
December 31st, 2014 at 7:39 pm
It’s despicable to defend this guy….my last contribution to this site
https://t.co/iKILYDerhb
Man, some of you guys are taking this stuff way too far. Derrick Brooks is in Winston’s corner. Are you going to disown Brooks?–Joe
December 31st, 2014 at 8:11 pm
Try reading the transcript….did Brooks RAPE anyone? ‘Taking this stuff way to far’…really? You gone way to far with the ‘Winston Love’, IMO, and it sucks, cuz it’s one less site I have to get Buc news, but you’ve chosen to disenfranchise a group of Buc fans with you Winston propaganda.
December 31st, 2014 at 8:20 pm
Oh, but what about stealing soda from Burger King? Stealing crab legs from Publix? What about the BB Gun incident? Yelling %&$& her in the $&$4y?
Are the Winston defenders trying to say that he didn’t do any of those things?
I’m sick of this turd getting a pass for every ridiculous thing he does. He has the maturity of a 5 year old.
December 31st, 2014 at 8:21 pm
I’m happy with either – can we draft a new HC and keep Licht???
December 31st, 2014 at 8:22 pm
Winston does look like a great prospect. Just hope that if we draft him that he puts the work in necessary to become great at the NFL level. I’m waiting for tomorrow night to see how he and Mariota perform. I haven’t seen Mariota enough to give an opinion on him. Whoever we draft I hope we get a pro bowler. Even if they are at a position other than QB. GO BUCS!
December 31st, 2014 at 8:23 pm
It’s a easy choise. Mariota= better foot work, smart with a football, team guy, study’s the game, good role model, a smart guy. Winston thief property damage accused rapist, from a pro style system that has yet to produce a pro Quarterback in the last three first round QB’s out of it. Hmmm I don’t know that’s a hard one. Oh Winston good arm bad foot work
December 31st, 2014 at 8:27 pm
Bottom line folks either of these qbs represent an upgrade on the roster – you should be praying for a healthy and experienced competent OC.
I am strictly focused on Black Monday 2015 – I want Discount Double Lovie gone!
December 31st, 2014 at 8:29 pm
Keep Licht he’s going to be great and turn into a great GM- he has pedigree and the makeup of a winner.
December 31st, 2014 at 8:29 pm
@joe
It’s not a question of who is in Winstons corner, it’s a matter of will he listen to them….from what he has exhibited so far it doesn’t look like he has or will…that is my issue, the best indicator of future behavior is past behavior. He’s judgment been proven to be juvenile at best.
December 31st, 2014 at 8:30 pm
Thank God!!! Get all the morons out of here who want to bash accusations instead of convictions. More room for the logical followers. Keep it going Joe, the real Bucs fans agree with you.
December 31st, 2014 at 8:30 pm
Lol another year, another bulge in the pants over a controversial QB, eh Joe?
I will take Winston, or Mariota. It really depends on who our OC is. Both QB’s run different offenses. Whichever offense our OC runs that is closest to either will be our answer as to who the Bucs draft.
Florida State vs. Oregon is going to rock this site, huh?
December 31st, 2014 at 8:37 pm
It seems quite simple to me….it’s all about risk……if you were hiring anyone to do a job and the skills/experience were equal….you would do a background check look at credit etc.
You would also try to judge which one would be a better fit with your employees.
Now if skills are unequal….that changes the equation.
With all the new attention to domestic violence and NFL player character issues….management must be very careful with the choice.
December 31st, 2014 at 8:40 pm
Based on all of this. Steelers should’ve cut Big Ben, Ravens Ray Lewis, Cowboys Michael Irvin and Joseph Randle, Rams Leonard Little… Maybe they should have, idk, but JW did make some bad 21 y/o decisions, it’s news cuz he is in the spotlight, oh yeah and Bret Favre for his addiction to pain killers, what I’m saying many of us have made some bad decisions, but we made it, give the man a chance cuz I believe he knows he has something to prove. go get JW Mr. Licht. Joe, I’m still checking on the site daily
December 31st, 2014 at 8:50 pm
One of these two QBs will have the opportunity to play two huge games on the national stage against very good teams……it starts tomorrow afternoon…..lets see how it unfolds.
December 31st, 2014 at 9:17 pm
I would be happy with either one of these QB’s with the right OC, but I would be very surprised if the Bucs drafted either one of them
December 31st, 2014 at 9:20 pm
@Nybucsfan you would be more your comparison made more of a point instead of just attacking the guys character. It’s well known that Winston has character issues but don’t make out like the guy doesn’t have skills just because you don’t like him.
If Winston had not gotten into trouble, we would all be storming down to One Buc demanding that they draft him. Dennis Dixon looked pretty awesome coming out of Oregon too and look at him. I was all for Mariota too until I went back and looked at the games again and just concentrated on the QB play. Winston is a stud…no two ways about it.
December 31st, 2014 at 9:45 pm
John Spendle Says:
December 31st, 2014 at 3:56 pm
While I have started to follow your webpage the last 6 months, with your daily Winston blogs becoming offensive I am forced to drop your webpage until such time as you get your priorities straight.
His off-field activities are so offensive to the general public (everyone except FSU folks), your highlighting him is hard to fathom. Fool me once OK, fool me more than once, not acceptable, and that is exactly what he is..
Sorry I won’t read any relies to this, signing off for the foreseeable future…
Bye. “Offensive” blogs. What are you reading? Did you stop being a Bucs fans because Warren Sapp was enshrined by the team, despite his sketchy past? Joe highlights Jameis because he’s a likely choice of the Bucs, not for any other reason. –Joe
I just like to say GOOD BYE and Happy New Year.
December 31st, 2014 at 9:47 pm
Winston does not have character issues because none of the accusations have credibility.
December 31st, 2014 at 10:22 pm
@luther have you seen Winston foot work always throws off his back foot and under presser throws it up for grabs that’s why he has 17 int’s. You watch some tape. What stat does Winston have over Mariota? and FSU has not translated to the NFL QB under fisher that’s just bull. If anything it’s equaled bust
December 31st, 2014 at 10:48 pm
That’s BS. Stealing crab legs no credibility? Stealing pop no credibility? Helping to cause 4,200 in damage with a BB gun no credibility? yelling obscenities no credibility? Please enlighten us on no credibility there.
December 31st, 2014 at 11:39 pm
He took $13.87 worth of stuff and a potty mouth?!?!?! Do not draft him!!!!! Lol what a joke, Winston is the correct move for the franchise. Argue all you want.
January 1st, 2015 at 12:02 am
@Nybucsfan yes he does throw off hi back foot and his throwing motion needs work. But he also goes through his progressions much better than Mariota. His receivers aren’t running wild through the secondary like Mariota either. I’m not just saying what the experts are saying, I saw this when I looked at them both.
January 1st, 2015 at 12:05 am
One other thing to watch…you can see Winston throw the ball very quickly when needed and he delivers the ball at different angles. Those are most definitely NFL traits.
January 1st, 2015 at 3:25 pm
Bucs Nation posted an article about Mariota and Winston. Had some different links to grades and things, but they counter the myths about Mariota and Winston’s play.