Bucs Are Hopeless With Josh McCown
December 7th, 2014
Joe can’t take it any longer. If Josh McCown is your Bucs starting quarterback next season, then this team has no hope. And season ticket sellers at One Buc Palace have no hope to earn commissions.
McCown is the NFL equivalent of bringing a knife to a gunfight.
It is pointless, hopeless and, quite frankly, irresponsible of any coaching staff to hoist this career third-stringer as some angel that can lead a team to a .500 season much less a playoff berth — even in the dreadful NFC South.
In the first half, it was same old McCown. Throwing nowhere near his receivers, nearly being picked off countless times, throwing into tight triple-coverage in the end zone and fumbling snaps.
Hell, Jameis Winston could do that, in his first game!
If the dumbass Lions had a brain, they would have prevented the Bucs and McCown from throwing up a pass for Mike Evans to catch for a score. If you pick off a pass in the end zone, go down! Fortunately for the Bucs, the Lions still play with their heads up their arses.
If Lovie Smith is really going to try to sell the ticket-buying public that McCown can win with the Bucs next season — and that means wanton disregard for the passing game — then quit the con and go full-blown wishbone (which Joe is convinced the majority of Bucs fans want the way they wet their beds at night whenever the discussion of drafting Winston comes up).
Look, McCown is a great guy and a hard worker. So is Joe’s neighbor and no team wants him for a starting quarterback in the NFL.
If you don’t believe in quarterback play, then just trade Mike Evans for an offensive tackle. Why waste Evans’ talents with a slug who can’t throw?
Stop the madness Lovie, will you?
December 7th, 2014 at 5:25 pm
McCown’s bad and with that OL there is no word to describe this offense. Oh well…
December 7th, 2014 at 5:25 pm
Glennon is the better QB, everyone but lovie and his last couple of sheep know that.
December 7th, 2014 at 5:25 pm
The notion the Bucs will hurt Glennon’s trade value is ridiculous. It’s 3 games in a dumpster fire situation, it will not hurt his value at all. He’s the best QB, no matter what you think of him long term, he is better than McCown. Not playing him is simply poor coaching.
December 7th, 2014 at 5:26 pm
We all know Lovie isn’t going to bench his quarterback, Unless he gets hurt again!
December 7th, 2014 at 5:26 pm
I’m with you Joe on everything except crediting McCown on the fumbled snap….take another look…..it was rolled to him….nevertheless….Oline or not….McCown was awful today…..off target all day long…
And….where in the hell are our short passes to backs & TEs….those 5-10 yard throws over the middle that other teams have torched us on all year….where is the dink & dunk when we need it most…it seems like every throw no matter what the down & distance is an out pattern low percentage pass….
December 7th, 2014 at 5:26 pm
Sure, the Lions play with their heads up their arses… and are in the thick of the playoff hunt. The Bucs, on the other hand, have replaced their heads with their arses, from the top of the organization all the way down.
December 7th, 2014 at 5:26 pm
Posted this on pervious thread, but better for this thread:
I refuse to listen to the post game or any interviews for that matter, but can someone tell me what the reasoning is for starting McCown. Just trying to figure out exactly what value or reason behind it. Not saying Glennon is the answer, but with the D playing better Glennonn is better at protecting the ball. If the Lions caught every chance they had at an interception it may have been at least 5 or 6. Plus if Glennon ends up backing up next year why not give him some more experience or trade value if you don’t want him at all.
December 7th, 2014 at 5:27 pm
So true
Good post
December 7th, 2014 at 5:27 pm
Arroyo isn’t a very good quarterback coach either!
December 7th, 2014 at 5:28 pm
Glennon is the better QB, but it doesn’t matter.
This OC, this O-line, and this running game would not compliment any QB.
December 7th, 2014 at 5:29 pm
Glennon 1-0 against lions
December 7th, 2014 at 5:31 pm
No offensive line, No offensive Coordinator, and A Journeyman Quarterback named Josh McCown. We’re right about where we should be…
Hot Garbage!
December 7th, 2014 at 5:32 pm
McCown is just as terrible as the scrubs protecting his arse!! He has zero poise and happy feet in the pocket. Why on earth is he sliding after a two yard scramble? Wasn’t that an advantage for us supposedly his mobility and and experience? Pull the plug Lovie you stubborn mule!!!!!
December 7th, 2014 at 5:32 pm
It’s not only him, but also that lame ass offense play calling, and that falls on Lovie for not bringing in an OC.
December 7th, 2014 at 5:33 pm
Friggin’ pitiful ! If McClown is the QB next year I will be getting in a lot of fishing and yard work. Lovie needs to admit his mistake and go get a good QB, cause the one he has now SUCKS !
December 7th, 2014 at 5:33 pm
The only logical scenario that makes sense is that they don’t want to play Glennon to further hurt his trade value. Not playing him is the same move Tedford made by destroying his contract, plausible deniability.
December 7th, 2014 at 5:33 pm
Omg stop with the glennon crap. I mean your saying one turd is better than the other.
WHO CARES THEY BOTH SUCK. it doesn’t matter which turd plays it’s still a turd.
December 7th, 2014 at 5:35 pm
Lovie will never admit he screwed up with McClown.
What a moron
December 7th, 2014 at 5:36 pm
Maybe the media needs to apply some pressure on our beloved head coach instead of giving him free passes all the time. Lovie’s leadership needs to be called out. This steaming pile of mess is all his doing. Giving this man a mulligan is a fatal mistake.
December 7th, 2014 at 5:39 pm
Lovie won’t put Glennon in, it’s not the future yet.
December 7th, 2014 at 5:41 pm
You absolutely have to start Glennon the rest of the season…it does make a difference…..he needs as much exposure & experience as he can get going forward…..whether he is traded, starts or is a backup……play him!!!
December 7th, 2014 at 5:43 pm
Not questioning Lovie why he didn’t pull McCown today should get you all fired. Period.
December 7th, 2014 at 5:44 pm
I’ve been calling for MG since day one. Pugsley gave effort today though, like a junkyard dog being abused.
December 7th, 2014 at 5:46 pm
agree JJV..why is media not asking what advantage McCown over Glennon is…what is reasoning? ALL of Smiths FA’s have not only, NOT helped this team, but have been a huge contributor to the miserable failure that Smith refuses to own.
December 7th, 2014 at 5:48 pm
Lovie is as Lovie does..
December 7th, 2014 at 5:49 pm
When is the media going to put the screws to LovieDovie like they so arrogantly prided themselves on with Rah and Schiano? This guy turned over 50% of the roster and each decision can be considered a failure of varying degree. I pointed out all the poor decisions back in the offseason and no one listened. It’s got your strict attention now Bucs fans.
December 7th, 2014 at 5:49 pm
So, where are those expert fans that said Lovie should keep Arroyo as OC? Lol. This “team” needs so much is hard to start where. Actually, it’s not. They must draft a QB with the first round pick and bring in an EXPERIENCED OC. Geez, we might need to being in an experienced HC too, oh wait….
December 7th, 2014 at 5:49 pm
IT TAKES TIME!
December 7th, 2014 at 5:52 pm
The media bears a lot of responsibility. First they made us fans drink the coolaid that the glory days were back thanks to LOVIE and his quality coaching and now they don’t put any heat on L&L. These two have set the franchise back another decade in one offseason. Glazers don’t care as long as they make a profit and they make some meaningless gestures to the fans like lifting blackouts as if that is something big. I’m watching Chip kelly make Sanchez look like MARINO and it’s not coaching?! We’re screwed for many years Buc fans.
December 7th, 2014 at 5:52 pm
The qb of the future is NOT ON THE ROSTER.
Glennon cannot make a deep throw.
He sucks so who gives a dam if he plays or not. A loss is a loss and still would have been with or without glennon.
My god you idiots really believe glennon is gonna be the franchise qb.
My oh my how stupid you all are. Unbelievable
December 7th, 2014 at 5:57 pm
Lovie’s vaunted, hand picked offensive line was at it again today. McCown hasn’t played well, but not many QBs would be able to do much with the bad offensive line play and an offensive coordinator that wasn’t hired to be an offensive coordinator. Not sure Glennon would’ve done much more than McCown in this game.
December 7th, 2014 at 5:58 pm
Josh McCown is our ticket to a top 3 draft pick next April! Why play Glennon now? Glennon was the better QB from the get go….that didn’t matter to Lovie and Licht. Might as well suck for a few more games and then get ready for the Draft.
The Buccaneer Fan Cry: “Maybe next year!”
December 7th, 2014 at 6:02 pm
Sure, the QB of the future is on the roster, Lovie said so.
December 7th, 2014 at 6:03 pm
Ok Joe .. But Glennon sucks too so quit acting like a Cry baby who didn’t get his way. Glennon wiuld be worse. I do agree Mccown is not the answer and we need a new QB. But Glennon is no better.
December 7th, 2014 at 6:07 pm
No one thinks glen non is going to be the franchise but this is regoddamndiculous
December 7th, 2014 at 6:07 pm
Second part of that headline should read and Lovie Smith
December 7th, 2014 at 6:09 pm
The Bucs are hopeless with ________ . You can insert any QB’s name with this O-Line.
December 7th, 2014 at 6:10 pm
and glennon is better than this 8 year old girl at ballet practice thats currently starting
December 7th, 2014 at 6:13 pm
@Kevin…its CLEAR who the IDIOT is…Glennon has performed much better, in EVERY statistical category,than McCown including WINNING%. And that’s NOT factoring in Glennon is a 2nd yr player as opposed to the 11yr career backup that is McCown.
December 7th, 2014 at 6:22 pm
I’m not sure how u can make any assessment at QB with as bad as that OL played today. McCown sucks – he’s been a backup for 39 years for a reason.
But saying we should insert Glennon is not only irresponsible but lazy – it’s one of those “the back-up is the most popular guy in town” comments. This season is over! And the only thing to make a bad thing worse is to put in a guy that’s a statue and depends upon his footwork to be successful haha
… let’s salvage what trade value is left in Glennon
December 7th, 2014 at 6:34 pm
Ah the good ol’ days during the offseason when anyone foolish enough to say Glennon was the better option at QB than a journeyman career backup was met with a group pile on from the now MIA “Pineapple McCown” Mob with their assurances that he was the second coming of Rich Gannon. Reality can be an unpleasant thing.
December 7th, 2014 at 6:45 pm
I believe in the Rose Bowl this year we will see the two choices for our QB, I want the Oregon one because of many issues the main being he will not be in trouble and be able to play.
As far as Lovie is concerned, McCown threw the first two passes nowhere near either receiver and he didn’t pull him. Then the time our on the first play of the second half?
December 7th, 2014 at 7:40 pm
The Lions revealed the Bucs as cold hard toast and dried up rubbery eggs.
December 7th, 2014 at 7:47 pm
No matter who quarterbacks this team, with this oline and terrible play calling, their will be no success. The play calling has no rythm. He doesn’t seem to know how to set up the pass withe the run or set up the run with the pass. He constantly seems to run the wrong type of play at the wrong time. Awful,awful coordinator. Lovie and Licht have a lot of work to do in the off season.
December 7th, 2014 at 7:48 pm
Don’t really care who you put behind center do you seriously believe there’s a QB who could win games behind this OL and with this playcalling? If so, who? Montana? Favre? Unitas? Brady? Moon? Young? McCown and Glennon are what they are but there are way bigger problems with the offense.
December 7th, 2014 at 8:00 pm
Once again…can any of you name one QB, with the possible exception of Luck, who has turned a franchise around in his first, or even second year in the last decade? If so, bring it on. Ya’ll are dreaming. That being said, McClown is a disaster.
December 7th, 2014 at 10:27 pm
McCown hasn’t played particularly well. But every time you go on these rants about how bad he is, as if he is the reason they lose, you just reveal that you haven’t got a clue about how a football team works.
And for someone who runs a football related blog, that cant be good for business.
I used to come here to get actual news about the Bucs but now I go anywhere else I can find. Just so I don’t have to read your lame, contrived and ridiculous opinions.
That along with your Johnny Football ball washing in the off season and now your crush on Jameis Winston, makes your website pretty much a joke.
Sad really.
December 7th, 2014 at 10:28 pm
And don’t bother replying to me, I wont be coming back to read it. Feel free to block me.
December 7th, 2014 at 11:30 pm
Lovie is bad at evaluating talent, he blew up the entire OLine (Penn, Joseph, Larsen, Zuttah) and brought in even worser talent. I know it wasn’t the best OLine but it was way better than what we got now.
Then brings in a career back up in Mccown, who cant read defenses and holds on the ball too long. Mccown just throws the ball up and hopes Evans and Jackson make a play on the ball
That cover 2 D is garbage, it doesn’t work without a pass rush and the only consistent pass rushers are McCoy and Jacquies Smith. every time its 3rd and long (10+) they give up a 1st down its hard to watch.
December 8th, 2014 at 12:27 am
I thought all you mobsters would be glad your boy Glennon wasnt in the game today taking that beating. Im not saying McCown is the better QB here, hell I think they both suck. But, Glennon would have been destroyed by that pass rush. At least McCown has limited escapability. Not playing Glennon today was the nicest thing Lovie could do for him.