The Dirty Dozen
November 30th, 2014
Was Oneil Cousins the goat?
How bout that 12-men-on-the-field penalty that fried the Bucs with the clock winding down in the fourth quarter and Tampa Bay in field goal range to win the game!
What a mess.
So who was to blame? Josh McCown offered insight after today’s nut-kick loss to the Bengals.
“Obviously, because of the tight end situation where we were at this week, Oniel [Cousins] played a lot in the game,” McCown said. “They had pressured us before in that situation, down and distance, and so we were trying to get a shot down the field while making sure we were protected so we ran [Oniel] on, but we obviously we did not get Robert Herron off. Again, I just have to do a better job of looking up and seeing it and calling out protection and calling out routes. It just can’t happen. Louis [Murphy] made a great catch on [the play] and we were setting ourselves up there to win the ball game.”
So who was at fault?
Former Bucs tight ends Dave Moore and Anthony Becht discussed the gaffe on the Buccaneers Radio Network postgame show. Both said it’s such basic football that calls for the player entering the game (Cousins) to take a player off the field (Herron).
“That’s Pee-Wee ball,” Becht insisted.
Lovie Smith blamed the coaching staff after the game.
“Coaching error on our part; we didn’t catch it. Simple as that,” Lovie said. “It shouldn’t happen. Blame head coach; bad move on my part of not seeing that.”
Joe can’t finger anyone as the culprit, though Joe would lean towards Cousins, based on McCown’s explanation.
November 30th, 2014 at 7:53 pm
poor coaching…
in lovie we suck
November 30th, 2014 at 7:55 pm
L&L…goats
November 30th, 2014 at 8:03 pm
Piss poor
November 30th, 2014 at 8:04 pm
November’s not over…chill
November 30th, 2014 at 8:07 pm
Okay.
How does that happen?
In football, on defense or offense, it is hard to imagine that 12 instead of 11 players could run a play and nobody realizes the issue.
Seriously, on o or d, how do you have 12 players play without it being intentional?
November 30th, 2014 at 8:08 pm
We’re the laughing stock of the league. I listened to Brian Billick break down the last drive basically saying what we all say – the bucs know how to lose.
Luckily our defense is looking better though. Hopefully that will be the silver lining by the time this god forsaken season is over.
November 30th, 2014 at 8:17 pm
Keep playing hard and keep losing games. I’m all in. This team will be great in 2015 if we can add the offensive firepower from the QB position we need. This defense has only gotten better every week and it should be darn good next season.
November 30th, 2014 at 8:37 pm
Very few picked the Bucs to win only two or three games prior to the start of the regular season. Somebody did an amazing job of selling this version of the Bucs as contenders. I have been buying that foolishness since the onset of the team, not so much lately. Much more often than not, reality has bit hard after the seasons were said and done. Yet we still hang on, wanting the winning to erase the mounting losses. The Bucs have a lot of loyal fans, to be sure.
November 30th, 2014 at 8:43 pm
Well, it is pssible that but for the 12th man, the Bucs didn’t get that completion. This sort of thing is always easy to ignore.
November 30th, 2014 at 8:51 pm
If they could get even a half asted QB and o-line! The WR,RB, and TE are already there. Pick up another decent CB and the team could be good.
November 30th, 2014 at 8:53 pm
What exactly does Lovie get paid for? Oh how I miss Schiano
November 30th, 2014 at 9:01 pm
I was watching the Packers-Patriots game and both teams do not appear to miss EDS or Mankins one damn bit. Then I had to watch Revis make some great plays, Blount run for big gains. Is there something in the water at One Buc Place that turns people’s brains to $#!+
November 30th, 2014 at 9:09 pm
The problems are 75% coaching, 25% players. I wish Lovie & co. would be shown the exit, but doubt that will happen.
Offseason player focus: Offensive Line, Safety. McCown can stay. He had the sun in his eyes in the fourth quarter by the way. We need other positions filled. A high-profile QB may fill seats early, but losing will empty them again fast.
As for Arroyo, he’s had a great experience. Keep him as QB coach, OC of the future perhaps, but we need an OC. Will one come in and co-exist with Arroyo? Don’t know that.
100% replace Frazier too and with a new OL, get a new OL coach, preferably one not hired for his experience, all lousy. Applicable experience = successful experience, not just time spent. It would also be nice to show seriousness about winning with a new safety coach.
Also there’s no problem with Martin that better OL play won’t fix.
November 30th, 2014 at 9:24 pm
why does it not surprise me that a team with Luke Stocker has a “tight end situation”… by far the biggest p***y to ever make an NFL team…for the life of me and can’t understand why thet FAKE is on this team…
November 30th, 2014 at 9:28 pm
Desanova: maybe you are right about Arroyo but L&L need scapegoats on the coaching staff to throw under the bus after this season ends and Arroyo and ST coach O’Dea seem to top the list of L&L shields. Defense seems to be improving but I really wonder if they could stop a Bengal 2 minute offense if the Bucs actually did have a 16-14 lead late….. Today’s mistakes (just like the Ram game, the second half of Cleveland, and the Vike and Saint OT losses) all point to fundamental lack of coaching, sure the talent is not there either but a good coaching staff would not allow such a multitude of penalties either and again time management sucks. Maybe Lovie is in over his head like Arroyo; there are a lot of gret football minds who learned that it is okay just to be a coordinator and not the head coach: Norv Turner, Gilbride, and Rod Marinelli come to mind….. Its just that by week 11 the mistakes should be minimized not continually dragging this team down and that rest upon the coaching staff…
November 30th, 2014 at 9:46 pm
That took a lot of guts for Lovie to send an extra man out in order to kill the drive, without having tell his players to dog it. He must really want a good position in next years draft. Or maybe he isn’t that clever.
November 30th, 2014 at 10:02 pm
Suggesting they keep Arroyo as an OC is absurd.
November 30th, 2014 at 10:14 pm
oh…..so that’s the newest excuse for McCown…he had the sun in his eyes…..jeez….unfuknbelievabble
November 30th, 2014 at 10:22 pm
Lovie has the Tampa2 working at last and even without David out there! I thought Lemon played a great game. So those who thought the day of the Tampa Two is long gone were wrong. If Tedford was well we would have had a much better team. Pay the money and get a Proven NFL OC next year, fire our OL Coach and his two loser pets who blew this game, and if the Glazers keep Licht tell him to quit picking the best player available and take a Franchise QB with the first pick and three OL after that and get Max Bullogh off the Texan’s Practice Squad for our MLB next year and pick up the best DE in Free Agency and a great run back specialist the same way, pay David what he deserves, and that is all it would take to fix this foolishness. And get a good pick for Glennon too.
November 30th, 2014 at 10:25 pm
Lovie has the Tampa2 working at last and even without David out there! I thought Lemon played a great game. So those who thought the day of the Tampa Two is long gone were wrong. If Tedford was well we would have had a much better team. Pay the money and get a Proven NFL OC next year, fire our OL Coach and his two loser pets who blew this game, and if the Glazers keep Licht tell him to quit picking the best player available and take a Franchise QB with the first pick and three OL after that and get Max Bullogh off the Texan’s Practice Squad for our MLB next year and pick up the best DE in Free Agency and a great run back specialist the same way, pay David what he deserves, and that is all it would take to fix this foolishness!
November 30th, 2014 at 11:52 pm
Pierce Says:
November 30th, 2014 at 8:08 pm
“Luckily our defense is looking better though. Hopefully that will be the silver lining by the time this god forsaken season is over.”
LOL I said that a few times this season. “By the time this god forsaken season is over.”
It’s funny to see another fellow Buc fan to put my thoughts into print.
December 1st, 2014 at 1:08 am
We were given the ball twice in the redzone,and All we could do is go backwards.
The offense was offensive.
December 1st, 2014 at 1:55 am
Rusty cannons? The bengals had to ring the cannons for us. And what did we do? End up on the 50y line? Oh wait that was last week. #pathetic #playoffs #schianomenmessinguptheseason #loviesmithisaprovencoach #mccown #best3techintheleague
On a side note: nice sack by geno Atkins in the fourth qrt. Way to make a play big man.
December 1st, 2014 at 2:06 am
Joes,
Can you PLEASE call the offense the “dirty dozen” for the rest of this year? That seriously made me lol
December 1st, 2014 at 7:27 am
this inept coaching staff are NFC NORTH FIRED COACHING IDIOTS! please come back g shiano!
December 1st, 2014 at 8:43 am
calling for the coaching staff to get fired? wait most of these guys have played football all their lives and subbing for players duh is normal and in fact it so common that it should be like waking up in the morning. So what were saying is the coaching staff should be fired because two idiots out of 50 something players don’t know how to get off the field in a crunchtime situation. was he to damn fat and stupid to notice the time on the clock? i bet everyone in that locker room will be on those to idiots from this day forward and probably don’t want them on the team, stop saying it’s coaching because that’s basic football. does a coach really have to tell a player to hurry up and get off the field in a two minute drill?
December 1st, 2014 at 10:46 am
Haven’t seen anyone ask why we are throwing a ten yard pass on 4th and 20 down the middle of the field with no timeouts and 12 seconds left. Great call!?!?