Raheem Says Freeman Is Working To Return
November 13th, 2014
When Joe last checked in with sleepy, leaky former Bucs franchise quarterback Josh Freeman, the 26-year-old was dealing with an October foreclosure filing on his South Tampa house.
But now there’s some good Freeman news.
It comes via former Bucs head coach Raheem Morris, now the Redskins’ secondary coach. He joined the Ron and Ian show on WDAE-AM 620 this afternoon and said he’s spoken to Freeman recently and No. 5 (not Jameis Winston) is working towards an NFL return.
“Right now, I know he’s just trying to get better,” Raheem said of Freeman. “He’s been kind of working with some quarterback gurus. I don’t want to mention their names and call them out there. Just trying to stay in shape and trying to be the best person he can get back into his shape. And I know his parents well. They [are] up in this [Washington D.C.] area. So they’re up in this area sometimes, so I get a chance to see those guys.
“Hopefully ,you can get him going and get him in the right direction to get him back in the National Football League.”
Joe wishes Freeman the best. He’s got so much talent.
Joe still says it’s a shame Raheem’s 2011 staff got in Freeman’s head and took a lot of the running out of his game. After the fantastic season Freeman had in 2010, (25 touchdowns, six interceptions, and the NFL’s second-leading rushing quarterback), Joe would have let Freeman continue to play instinctively.
As for Greg Schiano’s role in turning Freeman mental, well, that’s one mystery for the history books.
November 13th, 2014 at 5:19 pm
Joe, its no mystery. Just ask Boomer Esiason!
November 13th, 2014 at 5:20 pm
Schiano coached up Freeman to the best year, ever, by a Buc QB.
Freeman melted himself down, and I would love to hear what really happend. He had an E:60 about him a few years back, now he’s looking more like a 30 for 30.
Dude melted down and cost the Bucs big. My grudge towards Freeman comes from the way he exited the Bucs. He quit on them, AND released his own medical records in an attempt to torpedo Schiano and the Bucs. The true definition of a LOSER.
November 13th, 2014 at 5:21 pm
Let’s leave the blame where it belongs Joe. At the feet of Josh Freeman. I hope for his sake he can get past whatever is keeping him from success.
November 13th, 2014 at 5:23 pm
I think if Freeman was left alone, he would still be our franchise QB. BUT…if 1.5 years of Schiano could mess him up so bad, can’t we say obviously he didn’t have what it takes to be a dominating pro QB in the NFL?
November 13th, 2014 at 5:24 pm
Joe, you can do better than that potpourri of odd thoughts. And, you usually do.
Joe will get to more tomorrow. –Joe
November 13th, 2014 at 5:26 pm
I heard the interview….basically Rah was saying he did the best with the budget he had to work with….no wonder the team split on the losing management…”looked around the lockerroom and realized talent was not going to get any better”..everyone ran …errr…laid down for the hills… fast forward to today….players look around One Buc and think….hey the GBoy’z are throwing money…but the GM and HC have their heads so far up each others AZZZZZZ ….
November 13th, 2014 at 5:26 pm
I still like Freeman. He gave me hope, he gave me the good feeling I never had before when you believe you have a franchise QB, I thought he would be great eventually, it hurts to see the less than ideal circumstances around him and how poorly he reacted to it. I don’t begrudge him any more than I begrudge Arron Sears for having mental problems.
November 13th, 2014 at 5:26 pm
I hate to say this BUT is he better then what we have now?????
November 13th, 2014 at 5:29 pm
There are plenty of stories of good quarterbacks not getting along with a coach and the team suffering for it but it’s usually because of contracts and things like that. I don’t know what happened with that and all ANYONE ON HERE HAS IS SPECULATION until you hear it from schiano or freeman. the nflpa protects players and everyone protects coaches from bad pr. who was more protected from stupidity he subjected the team to than schiano. I hope he gets back into the league so that at some point what can be said is even after working on his game he’s just not very accurate or he worked on his game and look at the improvement…..he’s still better than glennon
November 13th, 2014 at 5:29 pm
“Schiano coached up Freeman to the best year, ever, by a Buc QB.”
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I wasn’t aware Schiano was our head coach during 2010. You know, when he went 25 TD’s to only 6 INT’s. And oh yeah, a 10-6 record. Unless you weren’t around in 2010, there is absolutely no way in the world you could say 2012 was a better year. That’s utterly ridiculous, and I guarantee you not one person will agree with you. Check that, some of these Schiano lovers could probably force themselves to believe anything.
November 13th, 2014 at 5:29 pm
Anybody else remember the pick he threw late against the Falcons (to Brent Grimes) when he was trying to bring the Bucs back on one of his many 4th quarter heroics? He threw that pick and got so pissed that he took off after Grimes and hit him fairly legally in bounds but was called for unnecessary roughness because he decleated Grimes. I liked that too. I also liked that 4 or 5 game stretch under Schiano where he played so well and brought the team to 6-4 before the bottom fell out, not just on Freeman, but the offensive line, the running game, and the defense.
November 13th, 2014 at 5:31 pm
HawaiianBuc Says:
November 13th, 2014 at 5:29 pm
“Schiano coached up Freeman to the best year, ever, by a Buc QB.”
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I wasn’t aware Schiano was our head coach during 2010. You know, when he went 25 TD’s to only 6 INT’s. And oh yeah, a 10-6 record. Unless you weren’t around in 2010, there is absolutely no way in the world you could say 2012 was a better year. That’s utterly ridiculous, and I guarantee you not one person will agree with you. Check that, some of these Schiano lovers could probably force themselves to believe anything.
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I often get Schiano-lovers mixed with members of the MGM. They’re big into revisionist history.
November 13th, 2014 at 5:31 pm
How many of us thrive under ‘management by imitation’? Schiano got into his head and Josh must have felt he would take his millions at walk the plank. The Bucs had Steve Young and Testaverde but never had decent coaches. If a player has the talent, it is up to the coaches to get them to perform.
November 13th, 2014 at 5:31 pm
You know what I just realized? When Freeman cut his Afro he started playing like poop. All he need is stronger meds and to grow his hair back out!
November 13th, 2014 at 5:32 pm
WHO CARES!!
November 13th, 2014 at 5:34 pm
WHO FUC**NG CARES ABOUT JOSH FREEMAN. JOE- AND THE OTHER WHITE TRASH WHO RUNS THIS SITE. QUIT BLOWING EVERY GOD DAMN ATHLETE OUT THERE. JUST SHUT THE F**K UP.
Great example of the regular hate that comes Joe’s way. Joe felt like putting this one through, just for fun. –Joe
November 13th, 2014 at 5:37 pm
Brandon, he’s referring to the yardage. Definitely didn’t think about efficiency or win/loss or our qb who won the fn super bowl. Other than stuff like that, 2012 was the best ever.
@CanadianBuc
Yes. I whole heartedly think so.
November 13th, 2014 at 5:39 pm
He started playing like crap ever since he posed as a (alleged) child molester.
November 13th, 2014 at 5:47 pm
Freeman is a basket case… Now onto more important things. Hmm at 1-8 I guess nothing is more important.
November 13th, 2014 at 5:50 pm
Yeah, he was a beast when he was fat. I miss that dude, man!
November 13th, 2014 at 5:57 pm
Bring back Freeman and Schiano
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November 13th, 2014 at 5:59 pm
Bring back Freeman and Schiano
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November 13th, 2014 at 6:17 pm
You can’t teach heart.
November 13th, 2014 at 6:19 pm
rah coached us to a winning season 4 years ago, since then theirs been none thats crazy considering how below average of a coach he was, all the guy needed was 2 more wins in 2011 to be safe and he wasnt able to do that. as for freeman you might as well just call this guy mentally weak i mean their is no excuses 2012 we were 6 and 4 on the verge of going to the playoffs and out of nowhere this guy forgets how to throw the ball and stars throwing picks everywhere and last year we all know the story with him and schiano, also how he just wanted to stay home and sleep. however he messed up his whole career when he decided to go on espn and asked to be traded, that was the worst move ever i dont know if his agent advised him to do that. what he shouldve done was back up glennon and backed him up like a professional and he probably wouldve gotten his job back, in contrast he was too much of an idiot to do that.
November 13th, 2014 at 6:22 pm
I was watching some 2012 highlights and DAMN! Freeman could sling that ball way better than the guys we have now. And the deep shots, oh the deep shots to Williams and Jackson were beautiful! Back when we had actual hope! Our rookie head coach was actually able to win 7 games and play competitively.
Why did Freeman have to turn out to be a nutcase? Why?
November 13th, 2014 at 6:22 pm
No. 5 (not Jameis Winston) is working towards an NFL return.
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In other news, Tim Tebow is also working towards an NFL return.
November 13th, 2014 at 6:24 pm
This turd got what was coming to him.
AMF.
November 13th, 2014 at 6:28 pm
Can he rush the passer?…..if not….don’t need him!!!
November 13th, 2014 at 6:35 pm
Mental Midget
November 13th, 2014 at 6:44 pm
“rah coached us to a winning season 4 years ago, “….yeah he did that with Grudens team……:-)
November 13th, 2014 at 6:55 pm
@don, Lay down and lick your leg like a good Dog..
November 13th, 2014 at 7:01 pm
Hawaiian! 🙂
Joe, Steve and Lee, often wrote articles on our favorite Bucs/sports website, stating Freeman had his beat season, the best of any Buc QB QB, in 2012 under Greg Schiano.
You know, Josh Freeman’s 2012 season, his only one where he threw for 4000 yards and 28TDs?
Give me a break for thinking Schiano deserved a third year. I am all in with Lovie, and I want Glennon to play because he is young and could possibly be better than McCown. It would be nice to know if we needed to draft a QB, rather then leave Glennon on the bench.
We are a bad football team. As Jared Allen said last year, we need to “embrace the suck”. McCown playing today has nothing to do with tomorrow, unless we go out and get Trestman.
Pardon me for being a Buc diehard and wanting Schiano to have a third year and For wanting Glennon to play.
Please ask yourself,, would we be better this year if we stuck with Schiano? Would we still be 1-8, and specifically falling off on the defensive side of the ball? Schiano had our poo defense looking at least league average, and better in takeaways. What gives?
14 sacks with Lovie at the helm is embarrassing, and it makes him look bad. Lovie knows it, and he will fix our D-Line.
Where is the nasty?
November 13th, 2014 at 7:04 pm
He’s blacklisted from the league for his stunts with releasing his own medical records to get released. Trying to tar an NFL franchise is a pretty good way to make sure no one has any interest at all in having you around. No one is letting this loser QB their team unless he accepts the league minimum.
November 13th, 2014 at 7:09 pm
” he’s kinda working with some QB gurus.”….. Lmfao that “KINDA” work ethic is why he’s out the league now. Who the hell KINDA works out. Lmfao
November 13th, 2014 at 7:14 pm
i used to discount the 2010 10-win season as a fluke driven by a very weak schedule, in particular 4 games against a (at the time) horrible NFC West. I’d argue that our 2014 schedule is even weaker than the 2010 was, so i guess i have to give raheem & co more credit, knowing now that this was possible.
November 13th, 2014 at 7:17 pm
Raheem quotes should be banned from Bucs sites – just don’t sound smart or valid!
November 13th, 2014 at 7:28 pm
Good thoughts and memories Brandon. I think u r right Bucrightoff! No team wants to see a player retaliate against them like Freeman did despite what one delusional radio host might believe.
I wouldn’t expect Morris to answer any differently, especially since the Sport Babe let it slip one time that Morris was Freeman’s after hours drinking partner.
November 13th, 2014 at 7:28 pm
WalkdaPlank I did too, & I thought,” Man! This looks like a real football team, not the mish-mash we have now!!”
November 13th, 2014 at 7:35 pm
2010 was a fluke. The only team with a winning record we ever beat was the Saints in Week17. But at least Rah’s youngest team in the NFL could beat all the scrub teams, which means the Bucs were not scrubs back then.
Lovie can’t beat anybody, not even 3rd string QB’s. His buddy Tomlin practically handed him a win and that’s it.
November 13th, 2014 at 7:47 pm
@Hawaiian
I complete agree with you, 2010 was without a doubt his best year schedule or not. He didn’t have Vincent Jackson if anyone recalls or Doug Martin’s great rookie season like he did in 2012. Instead he had a rookie 4th round pick from Syracuse that left the team and didn’t run much if at all.
I was always a fan of his comebacks and thought he was going to be a star, not an Aaron Rodgers type star but a top 7-8 franchise QB for many years, sucks I was wrong. It doesn’t matter at this point what happened to him, first and foremost he’s a professional and it starts with him. Now we have nothing except the hope for a potential top-flight QB in next years draft.
November 13th, 2014 at 8:33 pm
@SteveK,
Right there, you proved my point. It’s fine if you think Schiano should have gotten a third year. However, you can’t make stuff up to prove your point. Just because he threw for 4000 yards (which about 60% of QB’s around the NFL do every year by the way) doesn’t mean it was his best year. Hello, Schiano drafted a QB the year after that “best season of any Buc QB”! He had the highest yardage, but not his best season. I would love to see the article where Joe or anyone else said it was his best season. Pretty confident you won’t be able to.
As for Schiano, he lost the locker room. It doesn’t matter if he was Vince Lombardi, it’s over at that point. He’s far from the only coach that has lost a locker room, it happens every year. Raheem lost it. Chucky probably lost it too. Shanahan lost his last year in Washington. Got a feeling Trestman lost his too. Once the players tune the coach out, he’s got to go. It may not be fair, but it’s reality.
Would we have been worse off with Schiano? Short term, obviously not. As much as I didn’t like Schiano, even I would probably admit we’d probably have a better record right now with Schiano, because there would have been much less change. However, I think (more like hope) we will be better off in the long run with Lovie. I just trust him more due to his experience coaching men, and being pretty successful. If we are in the same boat this time next year, I’ll be singing a different tune. I like Lovie, but there’s next to nothing I like about what I’ve seen this year. That’s on him. In my opinion, he’s got about a year to fix it, or he and Schiano will be hanging out in his basement. It’s as simple as that. Regardless, I’m glad Schiano isn’t our coach anymore. Lovie could go 0-16 and I would NEVER want Schiano back. If both guys are bad, it’s pretty stupid to debate who is less terrible.
November 13th, 2014 at 8:34 pm
Hopefully you can get him going in the right direction? Who the f was he referring to? Ron and Ian, what direction are they gonna take him? I can’t believe Raheem made it to an actual interview to be a head coach.
November 13th, 2014 at 8:39 pm
As soon as he stopped running as a QB that’s when he disintegrated. He should have been trying to be Donovan McNabb.
November 13th, 2014 at 8:44 pm
@hawaiian buc. Maybe whatever you do you figured it all out in two years. The majority of people need time to learn and grow. LOvie has had that time for many years. Schiano had two and out. He changed from year one to year two. No one will ever know what year 3 would be like but now we are the Detroit Lions of the 2000’s. Keep making changes…I would rather have seen Schiano evey day rather than reach back in time and grab a coach who just doesn’t have the it factor. Schiano had that..:he held people accountable. LOvie just lies and we all believe. Sure next year could be better at 4-12 or 6-10 but truth is change is coming again because he blew it this year. Spent over 150 mil, made trades, drafted players and fixed the OLine. They blew it and got worse.
November 13th, 2014 at 9:02 pm
freeman flunked out of tampa minnesota and the giants. raheem is an idiot he needs to stfu freeman came in and made millions while morris worked for peanuts why would he help that loser??
November 13th, 2014 at 9:25 pm
Where’s Couch Fan?
A Freeman article just isn’t the same without Couch Fan weighing in on the comments section.
Any minute now Couch….
November 13th, 2014 at 9:43 pm
Josh was the one…he had the potential and talent to be our first TRUE franchise quarterback. Too bad he wasted that chance and wrecked our team.
I would love to see him make a comeback though, because America loves a comeback story.
November 13th, 2014 at 9:46 pm
Joe
Enough with the talent evaluation of JR
Looser in college = looser in pros.
Simple…guy was a looser
November 13th, 2014 at 9:47 pm
Freeman’s working with some life coaches in rehab. Allegedly.
November 13th, 2014 at 10:02 pm
What a moron
November 13th, 2014 at 10:16 pm
When he did the interview on ESPN after he got benched it sealed his fate in the NFL…….DONE!
November 13th, 2014 at 10:45 pm
Only 1 o in loser.
November 13th, 2014 at 10:48 pm
@Jon,
First of all, in whatever anybody does, they should be improving in year 2, not regressing. I didn’t expect Schiano to win the Super Bowl in year 2, but we were clearly going downhill in a hurry.
As for Lovie, how do you know he doesn’t have the “it” factor? Who the hell are you? How many meetings have you attended? How many practices have you been a part of? SMH. Lovie has won at every job he’s had. He was 10-6 in Chicago his last year and got fired. How is Chicago doing now? I’d bet my house Chicago would take a do over on that, similar to how we’d take a do over on firing Gruden. Only time will tell if Lovie will get us out of this funk. It looks admittedly very grim, but he has done it before at this level. It’s crazy to even think about firing him this year, but he damn sure better look better next year. The honeymoon is over.
Last thing, why do you call Lovie a liar? Never got that. Because he doesn’t tell the media his intentions? Then what the hell does that make Bill Bellicheck? Do you know of any player he has lied to? Do you know of anybody who has ever met Lovie that has called him a liar? But I guess you don’t need to, because the all knowledgeable ones expect 100% transparency from a coach. If you think Lovie is a bad coach, that’s fine. You appear to be right as of now. If you think he was a bad hire, that’s hard to argue right now. But stop pulling stuff out of your arse just to fit your agenda. There’s enough already there where that’s not even necessary. To make stuff up or give false examples just takes away from what you are saying that is correct, which is Lovie is failing and looks like the wrong guy for the job.
November 13th, 2014 at 11:45 pm
@buc. Bill doesn’t tell everyone he likes revis then traded him, he doesn’t say McCown is the quarterback, then Glennon is the future and goes back to McCown. LOvie and licht loved the roster in the summer. Read MMQB about it from the summer. Now team isn’t talented enough. LOvie lied to penn and didn’t man up to it. What article do you want me to post first. Wake up HB. Your a great fan and I read you often but LOvie may be a vg coordinator but obviously bears felt different. Probably because he ok’d drafted Carimi in 1st round or trading for gaines. Not making that up either.
November 14th, 2014 at 12:47 am
The Raheem Morris era didn’t end good but he was the last coach to lead the Bucs to a winning record and almost sniff the playoffs. A lot of folks pooh poohed that finish wouldn’t mind seeing that kind of record now
November 14th, 2014 at 1:15 am
I’m still pulling for you freeman. I see a talented QB and one day he’s gonna shock everyone. Screw Schiano for messing Freeman. Go look at what he did in 2010. He was unbelievable. I’ll always be a fan of freeman I don’t care what happen last year he’s still a very talented QB
November 14th, 2014 at 1:25 am
Hum no. This is all of weak minded Freeman’s doing. Not the coach or the janitors fault the kid has NO heart
November 14th, 2014 at 1:38 am
Coaches aren’t supposed to tell the public they are going to trade a guy. Who does that? When Talib got suspended, Schiano talked about him being back in a few weeks, then he traded him. As soon as you let it be known you are going to trade a guy, they lose value. And for the record, they didn’t trade Revis. They cut him.
Lovie never lied to Penn. That’s bull crap. He told Penn he was going to be cut, Penn got pissed (which is to be expected) and that was that.
And Lovie was head coach in Chicago, not a coordinator. Ha wasn’t the gm. He didn’t draft anyone. They fired him because they wanted more. They wanted to win the championship, and they thought they had the talent to do so. How are they doing since he left? Teams make mistakes firing guys. We made a mistake firing Gruden. I didn’t think so at the time, but the records don’t lie.
November 14th, 2014 at 9:57 am
The part of that interview that cracked me up (no pun intended ) was when Rah said “Winning the 1st year is always easy”…. well, he did win 3 games here in his first season, shots fired ?
November 14th, 2014 at 10:06 am
Bring back FAT JOSH!!!!!!
November 14th, 2014 at 10:20 am
Never speak of Josh Freeman again.
November 14th, 2014 at 10:29 am
Honestly, I think Freeman black balled himself out of another snap in the NFL. He better start looking at the CFL.
November 14th, 2014 at 2:05 pm
@Don
Sounds like somebody’s got a case of the Mondays 🙁