Jameis Watch: National Bucs Buzz Brewing
November 5th, 2014
Crab-legs-stealing, BB-gun-shooting, obscenity-hollering, Heisman-Trophy-winning, national champion James Winston, the pride of Florida State University, continues to look like a much better quarterback prospect than Mike Glennon and Josh McCown.
It’s Joe’s regular nugget on the Jameis Watch, celebrating the best quarterback to wear No. 5 ever in the state of Florida.
The Bucs’ alleged interest in Winston has gone national.
Check out the video below from longtime NFL writer Jason Cole, now of BleacherReport.com.
Cole talks about Jason Licht being one of a dozen general managers at Florida State’s last game, and about his “sources” on the Bucs’ QB focus.
November 5th, 2014 at 7:41 pm
It’s gonna happen….
Just hire #55, (he shoudlve been hired as soon as he retired!!
But with 55 in Winston’s corner, I’ll have ZERO off-field concerns!
November 5th, 2014 at 7:42 pm
Jameis is going to set some poor team back 5 years. Mariota or bust.
November 5th, 2014 at 7:47 pm
We need a spark… Mariota’s too soft a guy to give us that spark…. What we’ve been through this past decade or so??? We need a fuccin INFERNO to get The Bay back into the NFL!
Winston & Brooks!! Get em BOTH!!!
November 5th, 2014 at 7:51 pm
So #55 is going to watch him every minute of every day and night? I can’t wait for him to go to the Combine and see if he gets out of single digits on the Wonderlic
November 5th, 2014 at 7:53 pm
Dig in troops…
1st round OT
2nd round OG
3rd round Center
move on……..
November 5th, 2014 at 7:53 pm
Friendly reminder: Lovie is choosing the good Christian boy over Crab Legs every day of the week and 666 times on Sunday. So if you want Jameis, Lovie must be fired. So the Fire Lovie Mob must succeed first, or the Winston Wackos have no chance.
November 5th, 2014 at 8:00 pm
I agree with those saying Lovie will be forced to pick a QB. But he wouldn’t by himself, he is too much of an idiot. He would probably go for Mariota, but might be told get Winston.
Then again, ownership sucks too lol.
November 5th, 2014 at 8:01 pm
Joe,
I gave you hell about Johnny and to this day I think he will
probably be a bust and I thought Glennon was better (which
could still turn out to be the case), but Bridgewater I was never
entirely against. I suspected he would fare better in the NFL than
Manziel. If Johnny ends up being a quality starter then I will publicly
admit my terrible lack of foresight.
Winston or Mariotta are better than either one of them by far. I’m all on board
for Winston or Mariotta this year (our yearly November draft talk).
MMM 4eva!
November 5th, 2014 at 8:03 pm
RastaMon Says:
November 5th, 2014 at 7:53 pm
Dig in troops…
1st round OT
2nd round OG
3rd round Center
move on……..
____________________________
Lovie? Is that you?
November 5th, 2014 at 8:15 pm
And here we all are again one year later. Last year we were 0-8 and all talking about Bortles or Clowney. Last year I wrote how cruel the Bucs are to their fans and after the horrible start, the Bucs will win just enough games to be out of the top pick. Folks its going to happen again. The defense is keeping it close enough where we will win just enough to be out of the Winston/ Mariota sweepstakes. Go Bucs! And where’s my beer!!!
November 5th, 2014 at 8:26 pm
I’m sorry but this segment on Winston is just stupid. If we knew for sure we had the number 1 or 2 pick then ok. But writing a bunch of articles on 1 guy that no one has a clue if we would draft or be in position to draft is just a waste of time. I never waste my time reading any of these as I never read the Manziel crap.
November 5th, 2014 at 8:26 pm
“The defense is keeping it close enough where we will win just enough to be out of the Winston/ Mariota sweepstakes. Go Bucs! And where’s my beer!!!”
Thats a legitimate concern… But then I say we trade up! The last time we made a BIG TIME TRADE in the Draft, it took us to the Promised Land!!!
R.I.P. Malcolm Glazer & R.I.P. to your BIG BALLS !!!
November 5th, 2014 at 8:26 pm
Mariota’s success won’t translate to NFL. Winston’s too much of a Ryan Leaf kind of gamble.
There’s always skill out there, and it doesn’t have to be first round.
Look for a guy who throws the ball well, and there’s your best chance at a franchise QB. If a player can’t master the basics of throwing a pass, there’s no way they’ll ever have the discipline and smarts to pick apart a defense. That’s how you get a franchise QB, start there.
It proves true over and over again.
November 5th, 2014 at 8:38 pm
“So #55 is going to watch him every minute of every day and night? I can’t wait for him to go to the Combine and see if he gets out of single digits on the Wonderlic”
What, are you lookin for a QB who can figure out how to get the Virgin Galactic SpaceShip running???
Or are you lookin for a QB who can light it up on the field with 2nd nature QB instincts, light a FIRE under his teammates asses when their down (like when FSU was down 24-7 in the 3rd agaings the #1 Div 1 Defense???). A dude with a legitimate chance to make this franchise a contender again???
Getting #55 in here is just the cherry on top… Winston or not, getting Brooks in here should go without saying…
November 5th, 2014 at 9:02 pm
Zam FTW At least partially. I’m not sure I agree that Jameis or Marcus will be busts in he NFL. But I do agree with Zam there will be a great QB in next year’s draft that is not on our radar right now.
Find the right arm and groom him. Tom Brady isn’t the only great QB in the league…nor Aaron Rodgers…or Russell Wilson…or Drew Brees…or Joe Flacco or Matty Ice..or Cam Newton..or Colin Kaepernik..or…..
Jameis is not the ONLY possible solution. Do you all really believe his Andrew Luck. Will he be a winner. I’m not going to bet against him but he’s NOT THE ONLY FISH IN THE SEA!!!
November 5th, 2014 at 9:10 pm
After this abysmal season, the Glazer dweebs will realize unless Bucs make a big splash in the draft, they’re in for several more apathetic seasons. If they truly care, they will order Lovie/light to pick either Winston or Mariota. Ask Vdrop to renegotiate or adios, trade Martin for a pack of cigarettes, cut ties with Goldson, Mankins, Johnson and Collins and of course Bowers. They are all 3 rd stringers anyway. Trade as many of those clowns on draft day and get a real draft guru to help with the draft. Btw, hire Marinelli away from Dallas and get a real OC.
November 5th, 2014 at 9:26 pm
Joe…It’s time for a poll…..
I will continue to ask for this and hope others do also.
Let’s see the numbers from JBF readers…
Winston
Mariota
Another QB
Don’t Pick One in First Round
Etc……
November 5th, 2014 at 9:28 pm
This could be great , would love to see the thug behind our o-line. Somebody will give him what he deserves an ass whooping!!!
November 5th, 2014 at 9:46 pm
I agree with TBBF, it would be interesting to see what the masses think about the draft and our QB situation.
November 5th, 2014 at 9:56 pm
The latest in the “Throwin Somoan Watch”
2. Jameis Winston, Florida State
You know about Winston. You know where he stands… Let’s just leave this explanation empty and see how the process turns out…
1. Marcus Mariota, Oregon
Mariota is the clear front-runner this season. He is the most NFL-ready of the group, and while there’s no superstar status here, Mariota has a chance to be very good in the NFL. Tampa Bay fans should be happy…
November 5th, 2014 at 9:56 pm
Mariota, who has a more NFL-ready arm than any of the signal-callers who ran this offense before him, is often throwing to a receiver with a five-yard circle of green around him. When the line, which has struggled through injuries but seems to be rounding into form, gives him even a little time, Mariota makes the offense hum like an explosive-play assembly line. “He’s tough to contain,” Stanford coach David Shaw said. “You put pressure on him and he doesn’t feel it, he escapes the pocket and he throws the ball down the field. As a runner and a passer, he’s special and we just couldn’t contain him.”” – SI
November 5th, 2014 at 10:04 pm
The benching of Glennon has everything to do with his trade value. Nothing more. Clearly they are not sold on him, so wouldnt it make sense to let your asset sit on the bench, publicly praise him as the savior (he’ll never be) rather than let him devalue in the eyes of every other team?
Prediction: Glennon part of a package to Jets/Jags for a pick to nab #5.
November 5th, 2014 at 10:09 pm
this winston watch is worst than the begging for JFF. really going to start to deter me from visiting this site as much
November 5th, 2014 at 10:15 pm
Single digits on wonderlic huh? Did u not see this guy is an academic all american? Your hatred consumes you.
November 5th, 2014 at 10:22 pm
David, I wouldn’t look to much into academics especially since colleges have been caught giving BS classes to student athletes.
November 5th, 2014 at 10:28 pm
Also, his dad wants him to get his degree so he could stay.
November 5th, 2014 at 10:33 pm
@Gooberville – So you clicked on the article titled “Jameis Watch: National Bucs Buzz Brewing” and took the time to leave a comment about how you don’t waste your time reading? Smart man, smart.
November 5th, 2014 at 10:41 pm
Winston reminds me of Micheal Vick, very talented but won’t have the NFL smarts or desire to get to the big game. To immature and won’t win games with smarts but ride on his physical talents only.
November 5th, 2014 at 10:42 pm
He did not commit a rape he is accused of and would people please stop treating him as a pariah. His lawyer released his accusers name and picture and now people on the web are vilifying him for that. People think this stuff isn’t getting next too him but he wants to clear his name in the court of public opinion that’s still clearly not satisfied. I tell you, when people get their mind set on blood nothing else matters until they get it. Anyway,
WINSTON, NUFF SAID.
November 5th, 2014 at 10:46 pm
The kid from Baylor is better than Winston and mariota
November 5th, 2014 at 10:50 pm
@ David
Have you not noticed how many college athletes that are “Academic All America” can’t even read or write properly when they come out of school? Have you ever even heard this guy try to speak intelligently?
November 5th, 2014 at 11:12 pm
rush Says:
November 5th, 2014 at 10:46 pm
“The kid from Baylor is better than Winston and mariota.”
Hush yourself with such nonsense!
November 5th, 2014 at 11:13 pm
Sill could stay in school, but I doubt it.
November 5th, 2014 at 11:14 pm
Mr. Patrick …have you ever heard half the Bucs locker room speak?
November 5th, 2014 at 11:19 pm
Some of you are so misguided about this kids football smarts it’s not even funny.
He learned how to tear apart a cover 2 defense at the age of 12.
Jameis was 12 years old when he wrote the following on a piece of paper…
From ESPN.com By David M Hale
Page 1 begins with a list of the characteristics a good quarterback should possess: leadership, dedication, desire, mental toughness, character, confidence. It concludes with a detailed schematic breakdown of how to properly attack a Cover 2 defense.
In a cover 4, the outside linebackers are the key. The best routes are go route and eagle.
In man coverage, the defense’s job is to put pressure on the offense. The best routes are trail, mesh, shallow, smash.
In a cover 3, bend, don’t break. The best routes are curl-flat, smash, vertical.
12 YEARS OLD!
November 5th, 2014 at 11:21 pm
Nope his football smarts are through the roof!
Dumb as box of rocks off the field though….
November 5th, 2014 at 11:24 pm
87′ It’s to bad it takes him 3 qtrs to start doing it.
November 5th, 2014 at 11:30 pm
Reality.. No dumbarse. To leave a comment one must click on the comments section which you can do without reading the article. You sheep will follow Joe down any rabbit hole.
November 5th, 2014 at 11:36 pm
Mark my friggin words whatever team gets him is going to be VERY happy for a VERY long time. Remember where you heard that first. If it’s not the Bucs, you guys will be sitting here in a couple of years thinking about what could have been and whining about why we are still losing.
Mark it down!
November 5th, 2014 at 11:37 pm
Funny that nobody is mentioning Dak Prescott who is the leading Heisman candidate and leading the nation’s #1 team
November 5th, 2014 at 11:43 pm
Mr Patrick…they have been talking about him…in fact here’s a headline from bleacher report!
“Why Tim Tebow Is the Perfect Comparison for Dak Prescott”
November 5th, 2014 at 11:45 pm
Bleacher report compares Prescott to Tebow…see he’s in good company.
November 5th, 2014 at 11:52 pm
Gator fan here… As much as I hate to admit it, gotta go with Winston, agree with 87, kid isn’t dumb and all he does is win. I want more people in my team who know how to win instead of continuously watching them find ways to lose
November 5th, 2014 at 11:58 pm
Prescott has to beat Mariota first.
November 5th, 2014 at 11:59 pm
Didn’t they also last year compare Jameis to Ryan Leaf?
November 6th, 2014 at 12:01 am
Please god no. This guy makes manziel look like the pope.
November 6th, 2014 at 12:16 am
Actual bleacher report said this about him last season.
One scout said Winston reminds him of “a taller, stronger, faster Steve Young.”
Another said Aaron Rodgers.
What’s becoming clear is that scouts firmly believe Winston could be the type of game-changing player that Andrew Luck has become in Indianapolis.
November 6th, 2014 at 12:27 am
Funny but I don’t remember Tebow, Rogers, Young or Luck being suspended from their college team multiple times
November 6th, 2014 at 12:31 am
multiple times????
November 6th, 2014 at 12:33 am
Plus they are comparing his on the field play…but spin it however you like. I guess?
November 6th, 2014 at 12:39 am
The Jameis hate is pretty hysterical. Just look at facts and put all your bias aside. Who is the best leader at the college level? Winston, coaches and teammates can vouch on top of a Heisman and National Title. Who’s the best quarterback in college? Not even a debate when it comes to reading a defense and throwing a football, the two most important things. Dumb decisions? Yes! Dumb person? No. He’s a winner and knows exactly what it takes to win on the football field. When you’re in the spotlight and walking on eggshells, you’re bound to break a few. This guy overcomes the adversity everytime. When you go out into the real world and get a real job where you are paid, you change your approach to all aspects of life and take a mature step forward. Based on that, he’s a no brainer for a franchise quarterback.
November 6th, 2014 at 12:44 am
By the fifth grade, Jameis was working with a trainer. After practicing 3 step and 5 step drops. The trainer would then take Winston to an office for chak-talk. Winston the 5th grader had to draw up plays on a blackboard. They went through all different scenarios a defense might throw at him and how to attack it.
FIFTH GRADE!
Which is pretty much how he acts off the field. Like a fifth grader, but on the field it never shows.
November 6th, 2014 at 12:58 am
With his history and track record, do you really think that Lovie would draft a rookie QB and start him? NO
November 6th, 2014 at 2:17 am
I see positive in jameis as qb as much as I like mariotta I’ll give it up to jameis for being decisive on his short throws. He spots his open reciever But his quick decisiveness could lead to many turnovers. He throws balls up into double coverage streaks a lot n trusts his wr to make the play. With evans n vjax that might be a good thing. Also another detractor is he stares his recievers down a lot. In a zone that ain’t a good thing but if the cb is playing man then its good to throw like the cb isn’t there. N allow the wr to do his thing. Mariotta will let the play develop n strike ising play action to stall the defense. If there is quick pressure he has deadly speed n elusiveness to break a long run or at least a first down everytime he takes off.
November 6th, 2014 at 2:51 am
@Skylinecrew, ur hatred consumes you. He is doing all these come back victories with true freshman playmakers! Only R. Greene and N. O’leary have playing experience. Last year hit lit it up from start to finish. Stop being a hater and just say i don’t want him on the team u root for and stop downplaying his talent. Dude is a baller! So if u have off field concerns, thats valid but stop trying to convince people who ACTUALLY watch all of his games that he aint good.
November 6th, 2014 at 3:48 am
Wish we had Bortles, and no, that’s not sarcasm.
November 6th, 2014 at 6:01 am
My suspicion is that Joe’s annual qb tracker series is an effort to keep the fans engaged. They’ve written numerous times that the worst thing for a team is apathy and one of the best ways to combat apathy, besides winning, is drama. What better way to get the fan base engaged than qb talk. Everyone loves talking about the qb. I say the glazers owe the Joes a bottomless keggerator for the office for keeping us all interested in the team when their play on the field should have easily driven us to Sunday afternoon golf and projects around the house by now.
November 6th, 2014 at 9:54 am
I agree with David!!
Fact: Winston is an absolutely outstanding QB.
Fact: Winston’s room mates video taped his assault of this young woman from Tampa. If it was consentual, then all they had to do was show the tape. The facts are they destroyed the tape because it prooves no young woman would consent to having his 2 room mates watch and no young woman would consent to having the event video taped.
Fact: Making the video tape was a felony.
Fact: Destroying the video tape was a felony.
Fact: The assualt it covered up was a felony.
How can anyone praise anything he does if you have a daughter?
Greg
November 6th, 2014 at 10:18 am
Well said @David, I am no Noles fan, but it watch the “kid” play, he makes plays and is not afraid of the moment. Bucs fans do you remember how Steve McNair used to crave of the Bucs even in our good years, this is who Jameis reminds me of, but even thinks he is even closer to Andrew Luck, I will take either one of those on my team. Don’t mess this up L & L.
November 6th, 2014 at 10:49 am
What are you talking about David?
This season he has not been as good as he was last year. He has been slow to start the games that FSU has actually had to play. The other cupcake games don’t matter. His throwing off the back foot is not ideal. His throwing into double coverage is not ideal. His stats this year are awful. Yes, he wins games, but his play has regressed from last year, while Mariota has actually gotten better because he is healthy this year. Sorry you don’t like facts.
I’ll say this. Winston is a good athlete, but I’m not head over heels for him like some of you are. I mean come on 87′ is practically stocking the kid and giving us information from when the kid was 8 yrs old. That is creepy.
November 6th, 2014 at 11:09 am
Anybody that thinks a Hall-of-Fame player, a rich one at that, would want to turn around and go from working 4-8 hours a week to working 60-100 hours a week is insane. Brooks will NOT be anybody’s GM… EVER!
Ozzie Newsome is the lone exception of HOF player getting into position as GM and part of that is because when Ozzie retired, it was pre 1987 and pre-strike years (other than 82, which he retired not too long after that). Newsome got into GMing, scouting, coaching, partly because he wasn’t a multi-millionaire like today’s players.
Brooks isn’t going to be a GM, Barber isn’t going to be a DB coach, Sapp won’t coach DL, Lynch… and so on. Today’s multi-millionaire former athletes have almost no interest in working 80 work minimums for little pay and less gratitude.
November 6th, 2014 at 11:18 am
lol read it and weep SEC haters. Ill take Winston in Tampa…. and for the record, evidence proves guilt. Not assumptions. Not ESPN. Keep hating. Go Bucs.
November 6th, 2014 at 11:25 am
WTF are you talking about gulfcoast? What does the SEC have to do with this?
November 6th, 2014 at 11:30 am
Mariota Watch:
“He’s freakishly smart, especially when it comes to football,” Ducks offensive coordinator Scott Frost told ESPN.com. “He sees things and processes things so quickly that he just doesn’t make a ton of mistakes.”
Mariota’s mistakes also underscore his advanced approach to the game. Frost attributes most interceptions to two primary causes: bad eyes and getting flustered under pressure.
Mariota’s interceptions stem from overthinking, but not in the standard sense. Helfrich calls it “thinking along with the route,” which is fine as long as the route is run correctly.
But if Mariota’s intended target veers off course or loses leverage, Mariota course corrects by still throwing on time and on target, when the right throw would be to the sideline benches.
“He knows what that guy’s supposed to be doing,” Helfrich said, “and almost tries to will it back. If the guy’s running the wrong route, just throw it away.”
Mariota’s second-quarter interception Oct. 24 against Cal snapped a streak of 253 attempts without a pick, the second longest in Pac-12 history behind a run of 353 attempts set by, yep, Mariota.
November 6th, 2014 at 11:32 am
“When it comes to competition, he’s as cutthroat as anybody,” Frost said. “Marcus is at a place where he’s been the front-runner for being the first quarterback [drafted]. Any time you’re that guy, there’s more scrutiny.
“They’re trying to find something wrong with him.”
Let them nitpick. It’s their jobs.
The rest of us should appreciate a player who doesn’t come around very often at the college level, one with a strong arm, nimble feet and, most important, a beautiful mind.
November 6th, 2014 at 2:16 pm
What comes around goes around. If Jameis did what he was accused of, then he will get his one day. I think if we want to have a “morality court”, we would all need to look in the mirror first. If he truly did something, somehow it will brought into light at some point. If we picked our president and congress based on character alone, we wouldn’t have anyone leading this country.
The debate is “should he be the Bucs QB?”Based solely on his leadership, his skill, and his poise under pressure, Winston should be the clear cut draft choice to lead the Bucs offense. You can see him on the side-lines getting in his teammates faces, slapping high fives, and cheering the defense on. This is what a leader does, and that’s the kind of guy we need behind center in Tampa. Being around a guy like Lovie might help his maturation process…maybe.