“My Frustration Turned Into Anger”
October 16th, 2014
Derrick Brooks is not a happy guy. The problems on his beloved Buccaneers have brought a dark cloud over his typically glowing Bucs optimism.
Brooks let plenty hang out during his chat with Steve Duemig on WDAE-AM 620 yesterday.
“Sometimes the saying is, you are what your record say you are: I agree,” Brooks said of the Bucs.
“It’s to the point where my frustration turned into anger because I went from being, you know, disappointed trying to see through everybody else; everybody else is going to see with emotion and react from an emotional standpoint with the boos and the, ‘Get outta here.’ All that. I tried to look beyond that. And the more that I did going back and just looking at a few plays, I got upset.
“I started to get angry. Because the execution on our football team just deserves better. I’m not there on a daily basis. So I’m not going to comment on how hard the guys are working or not working. I just know more attention needs to be paid to detail. Period.”
Brooks blamed “gap integrity” for many of the Bucs’ defensive issues. He also gave a passionate Xs and Os analysis primarily blaming Mark Barron for the 52-yard early run by Ravens running back Justin Forsett.
“You have to get in and win your gap,” Brooks implored.
“How many guys on these explosive plays are on the ground? A lot of us. Too many guys are on the ground throughout the ball game and giving up big plays. We gotta learn how to stay on our feet. Stay on your feet. You can’t play on the ground.”
Of course, Brooks knows a thing or two about linebacker play, and he’s seen enough of tight ends dominating.
“You gotta win your fair share of battles. It can’t be the distance that tight ends are separating to beat our linebackers. Jam him at the line of scrimmage,” Brooks said.
Brooks also wants to see a “mentality” that’s not showing up.
“And then the first play of the game, a simple fullback in the flat, if you get beat on the play-action pass, at least hit the guy. Don’t let the guy run free,” Brooks said. “OK, he fooled me. ‘Ok, you fooled me, I thought it was a run. I’m going to blow you up, fullback, so you don’t get out in the route. Because I can’t get to my zone, so you’re not going to get to my zone.’ I’ve gotten beat on play-action pass before; I tackled the guy. OK, you’re not getting out because I’m here with you. If they call it, they call it. But it’s that mentality. I know some of this stuff, it has to be getting coached.”
Believe it or not, all that came out in Brooks’ first seven minutes on the air.
Joe will have more from Brooks later. For those who can’t wait, enjoy the WDAE-AM 620 audio below.
October 16th, 2014 at 10:21 am
Michael Johnson gets a loaf on that early, long run by Forsett. Barron and McCoy were cut and Johnson was left completely unblocked. His pursuit down the LOS was totally unacceptable. He should have made the tackle for a minimal gain. Go watch the tape. His effort was piss poor.
October 16th, 2014 at 10:21 am
Coach’em up Derrick!
October 16th, 2014 at 10:31 am
hey man, why don’t they fire frazier and hire you!! damnitt brooks if anyone could light a fire in this group it could be you. love ya brother and was a big fan, maybe you can talk some sense into that thick skull of lovies, and the glazers also!!! I know you have done so much for the bay area, and that you’re a busy man, but I know the love you still have for this team, and I think you would be such an upgrade over frazier, it wouldn’t even be close. so please some how some way, get back in the mix of things and save our beloved ship!!!!!!
October 16th, 2014 at 10:37 am
Why isn’t brooks in the bucs organization ?!?!?!
October 16th, 2014 at 10:39 am
Everybody knows what’s wrong. Nobody seems to be able to get it fixed. This is a broken record from a broken franchise. How many more quotes are we going to read that say the same thing: ‘they should be doing this…’
Frazier won’t have a job at the end of this season. Neither will a lot of the defense. That’s about all we can be pretty sure of. First time ever I wished the season was over with 10 games left.
October 16th, 2014 at 10:45 am
Joe
I would put him in charge of the entire team and all the front office.
October 16th, 2014 at 10:46 am
You can hear it Sapps voice when he talks about this team. You can hear it in Brooks voice when he talks about these team. These guys are taking the shitty play more personal than these players do…. I am glad I grew up watching these guys play. At least I remember what great football looked like.
October 16th, 2014 at 10:52 am
In Lovie I TRUST!!!! Time will help the o-line and Defense.
Thanks Derrick!
October 16th, 2014 at 10:53 am
Derrick is the man. I feel like he said what he said like he was talking to the team as a teammate.
C’mon guys, get upset by this, know your assignments, show some pride, and rise up!!
October 16th, 2014 at 10:54 am
I listened to some of Brooks rant. He sounded animated with a lot of emotion in his voice. Brook’s speaks, Big Dog listens. Nobody else get’s to ramble on like that on his show.
October 16th, 2014 at 10:57 am
Posted 10 Sept on JBF
“Lovie is in WAY over his head….I listened to his press conference yesterday and was underwhemled by his monotoned empty words…then by chance I listened to a long interview with #55 on all sorts of subject…a stark contrast in leadership and answering questions. Lovie is an empty suit that has been swept to this point in life by his association with the greatness of others. I don’t mean to be harsh…but that is what I see……
October 16th, 2014 at 11:01 am
They won’t hire Brooks thats to much like right. They will continue to hire deadbeat coaches who show no emotion as the team get embarrassed.
October 16th, 2014 at 11:02 am
We have been saying that from week 1. There is no jamming of the receivers. They run freely.
October 16th, 2014 at 11:03 am
Am I the only one who believes that Lovie will get this fixed?…..sure, I’m upset, frustrated, puzzled and disappointed but…..I still have hope.
I’m not blindly supporting coach & GM….but their track records say they have had success in the past.
October 16th, 2014 at 11:03 am
AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!! GLAZERS A GOOD HEAD COACH DOESN’T SIT OUT A SEASON WITHOUT A JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 16th, 2014 at 11:07 am
@FR A 81-63 record in the NFL sounds pretty good to me.
October 16th, 2014 at 11:09 am
Anybody suggesting they hire Brooks has their head in the clouds. Why would a multimillionaire want to come back and be a position coach (which is where he would have to start)? Why would Brooks want to give up his working 3-5 hours a week and start working 70-80 hours a week for what is to him, chump change? Utter nonsense!
Mike Singletary is the exception, not the rule. Most of the ex-players that get into coaching were very marginal to begin with, cerebral, like Brooks, but not very talented, and hence, not very rich. They loved football, weren’t ready to give it up, and it’s better money than selling insurance. Brooks doesn’t have to work another day in his life and he is set. He will NOT coach.
October 16th, 2014 at 11:09 am
Come on guys. It takes time. Dungy’s first season this and Dungy’s first season that and we’re repeating history ya know. This is just like 96 all over again.
Can’t you guys see that? It’s going to happen. We are going 1-7 then were are going to finish strong JUST LIKE DUNGY DID.
What I just typed is hogwash, yet it’s still in the forefront of many of posters minds here on this site. I guess it’s all they can hold onto for now. Some of them are in a for a rude awakening when they find out it’s NOT going to be like 96 at all.
If “it takes time to learn” this current team ain’t learning crap. It obvious for all to see. Brooks sees it too.
October 16th, 2014 at 11:13 am
Tampabaybucfan Says:
October 16th, 2014 at 11:03 am
Am I the only one who believes that Lovie will get this fixed?…..sure, I’m upset, frustrated, puzzled and disappointed but…..I still have hope.
I’m not blindly supporting coach & GM….but their track records say they have had success in the past.
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It’s not being blind. It’s about realizing they have proven track records, but above all else, it’s called having faith in your team. For better or for worse. Loyals fans couldn’t quit their teams if they tried.
October 16th, 2014 at 11:14 am
Bravo Brooks, very well said. My frustration has also turned to angry at the players too. There’s no doubt they’re being taught this stuff, but for some reason it’s going in one ear and out the other. I dont want to so they’re to stupid to understand how to follow instruction, but it just seems like our whole defense is having one giant brain fart. Their effort could have been better too, and for that again I say I hope they’re embarrassed.
October 16th, 2014 at 11:14 am
Come on guys. Let’s fire Lovie Smith and bring back Greg Schiano or hire a new coach!
What I just typed is hogwash, yet it’s still in the forefront of many of posters minds here on this site. I guess it’s all they can hold onto for now. Some of them are in for a rude awakening when they find out that it’s NOT going to happen!
If you want to fire Lovie and end up in an endless losing cycle like the Oakland Raiders then so be it. You’ll be crying on these forums for years…
October 16th, 2014 at 11:16 am
OneLove…who’s saying fire Lovie? You?
October 16th, 2014 at 11:17 am
Buc1987 Says:
October 16th, 2014 at 11:09 am
Come on guys. It takes time. Dungy’s first season this and Dungy’s first season that and we’re repeating history ya know. This is just like 96 all over again.
Can’t you guys see that? It’s going to happen. We are going 1-7 then were are going to finish strong JUST LIKE DUNGY DID.
What I just typed is hogwash, yet it’s still in the forefront of many of posters minds here on this site. I guess it’s all they can hold onto for now. Some of them are in a for a rude awakening when they find out it’s NOT going to be like 96 at all.
If “it takes time to learn” this current team ain’t learning crap. It obvious for all to see. Brooks sees it too.
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Okay, that is a pessimistic view. The alternative is the one you mentioned which is an optimistic view. What do you suggest the optimists do? Lose all hope, stick their heads in the sand and pray the season over, or do what many of you guys do on here and just come out spewing negativity, hate, and an ass ton of ignorance?
I have a realist point-of-view. I see a lot of things that CAN happen and at this point all I can do is watch to see if the next game will be a close one (4 of 6 have been) or an absolute seal clubbing (like the other 2 games were).
October 16th, 2014 at 11:22 am
It’s been a tough and painful start, but there’s no doubt they WILL get better. How much better and when remains to bee seen.
October 16th, 2014 at 11:23 am
Fans like me get tired of moronic fans comparing this team to Dungy’s 96 team.
Like history’s going to repeat itself. That it’s just going to happen, just because.
No real reason for it, to type it or think it. They back it up with nothing. I’m confident these same fans will be telling us that same BS line in week 12, possibly into next season as well.
I’m not saying fire Lovie at all. In fact I 1000% want him to have at least 3 years.
I’m saying stop with the Dungy’s first season comparison. It makes you all look like fools, but carry on with the rhetoric if you must.
October 16th, 2014 at 11:24 am
@Brandon
Of those 4 close games, 2 of them involved our defense being strafed up and down the field. Fortunately our opponent bungled their way enough to keep it close. The defense has been butchered this season. Realism is accepting the fact this team is not competitive. And that’s a freaking shame.
October 16th, 2014 at 11:25 am
@ Brandon
Thanks…..it takes a bit of courage to be supportive under these conditions….I’m now starting to believe that we bailed out on Schiano too soon….but that’s hindsight.
Lets give Lovie a chance…..what we are dealing with is unmet expectations….Lovie & Licht’s mistake was to present a win now plan and now they are stuck with it.
They could have come in with a rebuild and most would have reluctantly accepted it.
October 16th, 2014 at 11:25 am
Sometimes the only way to change your bad habits is to get embarrassed by them a few times. Thats what I think of when of I think of this team’s play. They need to get embarrassed a few times before they’re willing to change, and follow the right way of doing things.
October 16th, 2014 at 11:25 am
I hold Tony Dungy in high regard. Some people don’t. Those that do, should never put Lovie Smith on the same level with what Dungy did for this team back then. Not right now at least, but it happens daily on these boards.
Stop slapping Tony Dungy in the face.
October 16th, 2014 at 11:26 am
I want the Glazers to give Lovie a lifetime contract………………………………………….In his basement…..1 Jan 2015
October 16th, 2014 at 11:27 am
I have hope. I have hope for next season and the one after that.
October 16th, 2014 at 11:31 am
It’s funny that all those who wanted Schiano gone after only two years, now are basically the same people telling us how silly it would be to get rid of Lovie. It was OK to have a coaching revolving door when Schiano was here, but not with Lovie I guess.
October 16th, 2014 at 11:31 am
@buc1987
I’d have hope too, except I don’t see any young players waiting in the wings to take off. In 96 we had a lot of those guys. Here and now, where are they? No depth, few draft picks that have hope of sticking who are already here. Where’s the reason for hope? David, McCoy and Verner aren’t enough.
October 16th, 2014 at 11:31 am
87
Sup brother? In the last 24 hours sapp threw up and Brooks of all people got angry. I want to hear from ronde, why isn’t he calling the games anymore? He called week 1 then disappeared.
It’s vaca time for the next couple of days. I’m in chill mode until then. May the gorse be with you.
October 16th, 2014 at 11:31 am
@OneLove
This is a win now sport, what have you done for me lately Lovie and if he was so good why was he sitting in his basement for a season. Dude he’s stuck in the past he needs to evolve and accept change.
October 16th, 2014 at 11:34 am
If he was such a good coach why wasn’t he our first choice instead of our last.
October 16th, 2014 at 11:37 am
The Bucs could have 2-3 more beatdowns this season and I still don’t want Lovie fired.
Brooks has been saying “it takes time to learn”. Seems to me he starting to change his tune about this current defense. Still some people in here want to think it’s 1996 all over again.
October 16th, 2014 at 11:38 am
I’m all about giving a coach a long rope and Lovie is no exception, but when you get blown out twice this early in the season there is a problem.
October 16th, 2014 at 11:39 am
Derrick is talking like a coach. He sees the problems and has suggestions for the solution. Hopefully the coaches see the same problems and are doing something about it.
October 16th, 2014 at 11:44 am
lightningbuc…I I’ll also add that Lovie should be held to a higher standard than Schiano (Rutgers college coach). More accountability, but he’s not and by many.
If this was Schiano’s third season and all this was going. You people would losing your freaking skulls, but it’s not it’s Love Smith’s (10 year veteran coach) Bucs team.
I’m giving him 3 years, but I have every right to b*tch and moan.
October 16th, 2014 at 11:46 am
“Use your mentality, wake up to reality.” –Frank Sinatra
October 16th, 2014 at 11:51 am
I thought getting rid of Schiano was to early myself. The only person that should have been fired was Dominik. I even wrote a letter to the organization on how getting rid of schiano would set us far back. Im not saying Lovie will get it eventually right but it might take years where Schiano we were only a season away. Look how many players we have dumped from our years past drafts, and then look how they are doing well on other teams. Thats what angers me!
October 16th, 2014 at 11:54 am
Dear current Buccaneers Roster,
Well, this about sums it up and puts cherry on top of it:
It’s not just random fans and internet bloggers anymore.
Legendary Hall of Fame Bucs Icon Derrick Brooks has come
to the conclusion that you guys are sucking because you’re
not working hard enough.
You guys must be really really embarrassed.
I know I would be.
Signed,
Howard
October 16th, 2014 at 12:07 pm
As much as I criticize Lovie I still believe he should get the full season and most likely next to see his plan through….unless Jim Harbaugh is interested in coaching the team at which point Glazer’s bone him the way they boned Schiano last year
October 16th, 2014 at 12:08 pm
I agree Derrick should be in this organization somewhere. If not the head coach. But some of you are hypocrites. You want Lovie to go postal on the sidelines when that’s never been his MO, but when Raheem the dream, lol, was chest bumping his players for good plays a lot of you were like “that’s not professional and he should be even keeled” now we got a (too) even keeled coach and we’re complaining. Jimminy Christmas! But, definitely get Derrick in there and let him do film review with the defense. He won’t play favorites and he’ll call people out!
October 16th, 2014 at 12:10 pm
Joe
I did not say make Brooks a coach, I said put him in charge of the entire team with both the HC and the GM reporting to him.
October 16th, 2014 at 12:14 pm
I still say Greg Schiano for GM and Lovie’s boss too.
October 16th, 2014 at 12:19 pm
I also heard on one of these shows and agree about how switching coaches soo much sets a franchise back. I mean we’ve had 3 coaches in the last 6 years! I agree sometimes there needs to be a change, but sticking with a coach through thick and thin has proven success. Look at Marvin in Cincy, Coughlin in NY, Belichek in New England, Harbaugh in Baltimore. Maybe we should try it at some point.
October 16th, 2014 at 12:23 pm
1987-
I agree 100%! Here is how is all relative. We cannot fire Lovie and attract a franchise HC because turning over continues to set us back.
Hindsight the issue started with losing McKay and going to Allen who gave Gruden more personnel control and it’s been bad since. So the Raheem experience was a MAJOR gaff and when we should’ve right the ship we doubled up on the mistakes with settling for Schiano.
Now that we are here we have to ride out the storm ~
Do I think Lovie is culpable – Absolutely!
Depending on how fast the LBs and the Secondary finishes the season will justify their jobs. Mr Brooks approach should be the center of every lesson for these players.
On offense we just have to get better with more details and continue to upgrade.
October 16th, 2014 at 12:34 pm
Brooks could be our Elway. If there’s any way to make it happen, give him the keys.
October 16th, 2014 at 12:44 pm
SUCK FOR THE DUCK!
October 16th, 2014 at 12:44 pm
@Oahubuc i like that idea
October 16th, 2014 at 12:52 pm
Architek Says:
“Hindsight the issue started with losing McKay and going to Allen who gave Gruden more personnel control and it’s been bad since.”
Bingo!
Also in hindsight. I’m sorry Greg Schiano. I supported you for as long as I could. I was one of the last remaining fans that did not want to see you go. My reasoning for it was I did not want to start all over again. You went 7-9 in your first season. Something I’m pretty sure Lovie won’t accomplish in his first season as Bucs HC. You had scandal and turmoil at every turn last season including your starting QB turning into a mental midget, billboard firings and radio guys calling for your head in week 1.
Greg Schiano is the reason why I’m giving Lovie at least 3 years. I don’t want to blow all this up again and start fresh. I’m also tired of saying I can’t wait til next season though. So I will be frustrated on these boards, and I may trash Lovie from time to time, but it’s out of frustration. Hell he’s earned the trashing.
October 16th, 2014 at 12:57 pm
Arealbucsfan Says:
October 16th, 2014 at 12:44 pm
SUCK FOR THE DUCK!
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Mariotta?
The big problem with #1 picks is that the Glazers
won’t want to pay #1 pick money. The real x-factor
in all this talk about improving the Bucs is the Glazers
and their surreptitious cheapness (sneaky cheapness
i.e. they’re cheap as hell but they’ll do everything in their
power to make you think they’re not cheap).
Like I’ve said 1000x the real problem with this team
that very few people are brave enough to address is
the ownership. Period.
October 16th, 2014 at 1:01 pm
The Glazer family has a net worth of $4.4 billion.
October 16th, 2014 at 1:03 pm
The problem isn’t cheapness. The problem is clueless when it comes to the Glazer boys.
October 16th, 2014 at 1:08 pm
I would be in favor of Brooks being appointed team President, and overseeing the football operations. His passion is infectious.
On another note —- did read on PFT about the guy Lovie brought from Chicago make sure the players were bring solid citizens?
He was busted for DUI last night!
October 16th, 2014 at 1:16 pm
Buc1987 Says:
October 16th, 2014 at 1:01 pm
The Glazer family has a net worth of $4.4 billion.
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Yes. Their Dad was a modest millionaire when he bought the Bucs
and put all of his heart into an epic turn-around. Then the sons
took over and used the money generated by the Bucs to buy ManU.
Now their personal wealth is great.
Good for them. Not sure what your point is.
Maybe you could elaborate?
October 16th, 2014 at 1:37 pm
Where is Hardy Nickerson? He knows all this stuff, as good as Derrick Brooks. Why can’t he coach this stuff up? After all, wasn’t he one of the guys that got this defence going in the first place?
October 16th, 2014 at 1:51 pm
Because great players don’t always make great coaches (see Mike Singletary’s HC stint…though I don’t think he was as bad as a lot of 49’ers fans said)
October 16th, 2014 at 1:52 pm
If the Glazers had an ounce of sense they’d let #55 take a crack at running the organization. Had about enough of their hair-brained decisions. Brooks for Prez!
October 16th, 2014 at 1:54 pm
Buc1987 Says:
October 16th, 2014 at 1:03 pm
The problem isn’t cheapness. The problem is clueless when it comes to the Glazer boys.
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You do know that “cheapness” and excessive personal wealth
are not mutually exclusive, right?
October 16th, 2014 at 2:12 pm
All offseason we heard about win now team and all the other from L&L, when brooks and sapp said it takes time, they were basicly saying do not believe a word of L&L, think about it..
October 16th, 2014 at 2:22 pm
PFUDOR –
‘You do know that “cheapness” and excessive personal wealth
are not mutually exclusive, right?’
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This is off topic and far away from the meat of this thread. The Glazers wealth management and system used to preserve and growth their business has nothing to do with the point.
They are all included in the CBA and there is what is called a cap floor. Lovie and Licht spent the money and handpicked their roster.
They’re far from perfect (both of them) but something tells me some of the decisions made will be highly scrutinized and critiqued this off-season based on the return they got from many of their FAs. Not to mention these were suppose to be vets that know how to play the game.
I am not ready to write off everyone and everything because of a bad season but as Chris Landry stated we are very far off and the more we admit it and temper expectations the better off we will be as a fan base.
The discussion we should all be having is are we in for the 3 – 5 year window this will take or will some of us bail.
I can tell you that I absolutely Love – Andrew ‘the Giant’ Luck so all is not lost in my fandom for the year but I am a Bucs fan thru and thru. If the Texans and the Lions can go 0-16 (1-15) respectively and their fans go through the pain too then we should strap up and get ready for the ride.
Hope you didn’t take offense to my words.
October 16th, 2014 at 2:29 pm
Lol wut?
October 16th, 2014 at 2:30 pm
1987-
You nailed it…
‘Greg Schiano is the reason why I’m giving Lovie at least 3 years. I don’t want to blow all this up again and start fresh. I’m also tired of saying I can’t wait til next season though. So I will be frustrated on these boards, and I may trash Lovie from time to time, but it’s out of frustration. Hell he’s earned the trashing.’
Greg, actually was not really as bad as his reputation proceeded but he lost his team. He also treated men like boys for the most part. They are and were undisciplined, so no one can judge him for his strictness. The MRSA and the Freeman-gate absolutely made the losing even worse.
Lovie on the other hand has a different dynamic in his locker room with McCown, EDS, McDonald, and Verner. These guys are savvy vets. I think that Lovie will be okay eventually and the jury is still out from a personnel stand point but as a Xs and Os he will adjust and the guys will learn. I don’t trust Lovie and Licht exclusively (yet) when it comes to talent acquisition because they blew it big time with the OL and some other positions on the team that are hurting us now.
So I agree 100% – I would even venture to seeing about keeping Arroyo in place for continuity purposes (IF HE PROGRESSES AS A PLAY CALLER). And that’s a big IF.
October 16th, 2014 at 2:32 pm
PFUDOR Says:
October 16th, 2014 at 2:29 pm
Lol wut?
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Dude NM – disregard if you didn’t comprehend my post. (bump)
October 16th, 2014 at 2:33 pm
Soggy Says:
October 16th, 2014 at 2:12 pm
All offseason we heard about win now team and all the other from L&L, when brooks and sapp said it takes time, they were basicly saying do not believe a word of L&L, think about it..
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Exactly Soggy!
They got us all and we all fell for it…Just like we did for Raheem marketing and salesmanship.
October 16th, 2014 at 2:36 pm
I look at it like this:
The Glazers have a sweetheart deal: They keep all
the money generated at RayJay and the community pays
all of the maintenance costs for the stadium. They even make
money off of USF.
Before their father bought the Bucs the family was garden-variety
millionaires.
They owe everything to Tampa.
The least they could do to return the favor is to give us a winner.
No excuses. No shills. No media manipulation.
Just honesty and a perennial winning NFL team.
Like what their father did.
QED muthaf*kas.
October 16th, 2014 at 3:04 pm
I turned angry too because I paid good money to be entertained at the game last weekend, and the game was over in minutes. We need players for the system. Every other year we fatten linemen up, slim them down, don’t need TE, feature TE, zone block, power block, man defense, zone defense, etc. Let’s build something and see some progress.
October 16th, 2014 at 3:55 pm
Who’s your favorite player? Mr. Derrick Brooks! You tell ’em Derrick. Hey Bucs, fill your gaps, what are you stupid or something? Lesson #1 Gaps bad, defense bad. No need for further lessons yet until you learn #1.
October 16th, 2014 at 4:06 pm
@DB55, Ronde is probably so embarrassed by the play of his former team that he doesn’t even want to call their games this season.
Remember last time your heard Lynch calling one of our games? He was absolutely disgusted.
October 16th, 2014 at 4:08 pm
If the Glazers’s have that big of a fortune, then fire Lovie and his staff immediately and try again. Pick an offense first head coach, that seems to be what is needed and has always been the Bucs Achilles heel, excluding Gruden’s Super Bowl year. If that hire doesn’t work out showing steady improvement after 1 year, fire him and find another head coach. Lovie get’s this year to show the same steady improvement. I don’t care how many coaches the owners are paying at the same time. The amount spent would be a small speck in their wealth. Sitting around waiting for these plug coaching staff’s to get it right is too long and not a serious attempt to better the franchise.
October 16th, 2014 at 4:29 pm
@Buccfan37 you can’t turnover the coaching staff every year. That only leads to a franchise never being good. See: The Raiders.
C’mon man!
October 16th, 2014 at 6:22 pm
PFUDOR…if the Glazers are so cheap. We would still have Greg Schiano as HC right now. They’re paying 2 HC’s right now. They also paid big money to the Raiders just to get Chucky. What was it 8 million dollars in cash, let alone Gruden’s salary.
Hell if they were so cheap we’d still have Raheem the dream.
I say they’re just clueless. They mean well, but they’re clueless.
October 16th, 2014 at 7:15 pm
Lol just last week they were talking down about you because you have Glennon a C+ but this is why he is who he is and why he’s a hall of famer, takes way more than talent
October 16th, 2014 at 7:48 pm
Oh lord again. He gave a C- for one game’s performance. NOT his overall performance in any other games. A C- for the Saints game ONLY. Is that clear yet? I still say a C- was too low for the Saints game performance.
October 16th, 2014 at 7:59 pm
Why in the HELL is not DB OUR defensive Coordinator ?
October 16th, 2014 at 9:06 pm
Wow. Depression runs rampant in Tampa.
I protested the hiring of Frazier from the start. I was told I was wrong about him. Screw you all. I protested the hire of Tedford as well. Where is he now? Screw you all.
My number one point, always, is that props should be earned, not given. I’m always insulted for it. Screw you all.
I predicted that players on this team would not repect Frazier because of his treatment of Freeman. Many on this team understood him being cut from the Bucs, but are still his friend. I was mocked. Sure looks like they don’t respect him, huh? Screw you all.
I have protested the hire of Licht from the start. Great job he’s doing, huh? Screw you all.
I’m more right than wrong, so screw you all.
Lovie wanted Rod as DC, but that wasn’t possible. Lovie is a very good HC. He just needs time and the right staff. Arroyo is not the answer at OC. Tedford will not return. You may not believe me. Screw you all.
Clearly…I need to get laid.
October 16th, 2014 at 9:11 pm
Buc1987
A C- for that game was perfectly fair. It was an average football team performance. Some good. Some bad. Glennon was a C- in that game as well, but that was an improvement.
October 16th, 2014 at 9:16 pm
Buccfan37, that is…sigh…
October 16th, 2014 at 9:57 pm
We get a “F” on first have game play every week.
October 16th, 2014 at 10:04 pm
Oh and the “Coaches” there allergic to TIME- OUTS!
October 17th, 2014 at 12:09 am
“I predicted that players on this team would not respect Frazier because of his treatment of Freeman.”
WTF& *&*^&%^&^$&^$%$%^@**$#@
Are you serious Bonzai. You have to be joking? Who’s left on this defense that played with Freeman for any long period of time? What did Frazier do to Freeman?
So your pinning all this on Frazier? Oh dear lord, Frazier’s your scapegoat?
October 17th, 2014 at 8:05 am
Buc1987 Says:
October 16th, 2014 at 11:23 am
Fans like me get tired of moronic fans comparing this team to Dungy’s 96 team.
Like history’s going to repeat itself. That it’s just going to happen, just because.
No real reason for it, to type it or think it. They back it up with nothing. I’m confident these same fans will be telling us that same BS line in week 12, possibly into next season as well.
I’m not saying fire Lovie at all. In fact I 1000% want him to have at least 3 years.
I’m saying stop with the Dungy’s first season comparison. It makes you all look like fools, but carry on with the rhetoric if you must.
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I wouldn’t call them morons. I would call them “hopeful”. If the comparing this team to the 96 team is the only thing that can help them deal with the atrocity that all of us have witnessed, that’s fine with me.
This definitely isn’t the 96 team… this team is an enigma. No, they shouldn’t be even remotely mentioned in the playoff race, but this team is a minute away from being 4-2…which is weird, because they absolutely suck on both sides of the ball and special teams. And if they had won those games, there would be tons of optimism, and people would start comparing them to the 09 Cardinals and how they can leave a bad performance behind and get a win.
Sadly, there are few instances in sports that you can compare this team to. I’m not sure it was a sport, but the closest thing I can think of compared to this team is the Hindenberg…maybe the Titanic…. but more like the Hindenberg, complete with fiery explosions, film evidence, and the general catastrophe aspect of it all.
October 17th, 2014 at 8:08 am
@Buc1987
Wow. Ignorance is bliss.
There are plenty still on the team. And Frazier told Freeman he would be the starter, gave him a few days to learn the offense, played him one game and benched him.
From the eyes of players, that isn’t getting a fair shot. Not to mention Frazier proved himself to be a bad decision maker his whole time as HC.
If you knew half as much as you think you do, you would understand the claim.
And no, I didn’t “pin it all on Frazier”. I said it was a bad hire. You have tunnel vision, pal.
October 17th, 2014 at 9:31 am
Can we please bench Mark Barron? The guy is just plain soft and lets compare his interception abilitiy with say hmmmmm John Lynch??? Its like the guy is always out of position or just clueless. Yes he gets a few good hits that all period.
October 17th, 2014 at 1:55 pm
People blaming the coaches, yes, some blame lies at their feet. But 6 weeks into a season and seeing guys that “appear” to be not giving that much effort on the field, that is on the players. 35-0 in the 2nd quarter, that is the players period…Doesn’t matter what the coach says, these guys aren’t practicing/playing very hard.
October 17th, 2014 at 3:29 pm
There are several issues at play for our Bucs and certainly not a single solution. Putting our faith in Carl coming back to anchor the line was probably not the best plan in retrospect. Every good organization has a Plan B, Plan C, and sometimes a Plan D. When Carl punched out, it seemed as if there was no real plan for the O-line.
Losing our Offensive Coordinator for the season, before it even began, is huge. Too much knowledge in one man’s head and there had not been enough time to groom an assistant, etc. I don’t put this on Arroyo as he is clearly functioning way behind his current development level as a coach. Good on him for trying to step up.
As far as the Defense, I have no confidence in Leslie Frasier to right the ship. Didn’t care for him as a Head Coach either. There is where friendships can sometimes get in the way of good decisions. Will Lovie fire his friend and bring in someone new with fresh ideas of containing these spread offenses? Doubtful.
In my line of work (past 30 years) we have a saying: you fight the Army you have, not the Army you wish you had. I do not see the Bucs fighting the Army (talent) they have, but rather trying to force that talent into a pre-defined box of offensive and defensive schemes. Offensive line sucks? Figure out how to dink and dunk quickly while you open up the potential for longer field plays. More play action. Defense scheme not working with the talent you have to execute it? Change the scheme to one that fits your talent. This is where I see most of our issues, the unwillingness to adapt the plan to the current talent. No plan survives first contact as we clearly saw against Atlanta and Baltimore. However, the successful organizations are those that can quickly adapt to what they are handed and execute. Fight the team you HAVE, not the one you wish you had! GO BUCS!
October 21st, 2014 at 1:59 pm
Some of you people should NEVER be confused with a Buccaneer Fan! That’s all, go back to your EXPERT ANALAYSIS of the Coaching Staff. Chances are it’s as close as you’ve EVER been to football!
Tampabaybucfan Says:
October 16th, 2014 at 11:03 am
Am I the only one who believes that Lovie will get this fixed?…..sure, I’m upset, frustrated, puzzled and disappointed but…..I still have hope.
I’m not blindly supporting coach & GM….but their track records say they have had success in the past.
You and I might be the only ones on this site! SMDH!