Lovie Roasted With His Own Words
October 30th, 2014
Lovie Smith was given the business this morning by Tampa Bay Times writers Rick Stroud and Tom Jones for what they believe were contradictions in the head coach’s comments yesterday.
The duo took issue with Lovie saying the Mark Barron trade was about the present and not about the future, but also saying it’s always about the future.
In addition, Stroud believes Bucs players aren’t exactly on board with booting Barron.
“But there’s also an element, and they won’t say this. But there’s also an element [among Bucs players] of, ‘Really? Mark Barron is the problem? That’s the guy. We’re going to single him out?'” Stroud said.
Stroud theorized Barron was a such a prototype “Toes-on-the-line” Schiano personality that his demeanor might have led to him being drafted to help change the Bucs’ “culture.”
Joe doesn’t really subscribe to all these theories, but you can listen Lovie’s words and Stroud and Jones below, via the 620wdae.com audio cut.
October 30th, 2014 at 10:06 am
Tampa Bay = Lovies retirement home half way through next year he will be gone
October 30th, 2014 at 10:07 am
Afternoon practice = Lovie don’t have to get out of bed in the morning not getting ready for 2 games
October 30th, 2014 at 10:08 am
Another blunderbuss of a transaction by our esteemed coaching staff, so says Baron Von Munchhausen.
October 30th, 2014 at 10:09 am
draft all offensive weapons=no new o line men and defense for players that are no better than the ones we had. how could we live without herrons 6 catches Eric Page could do that and return kicks leaving 2 open spaces for new linemen. ASJ or Evans would have been fine.
October 30th, 2014 at 10:18 am
What? Lovie makes perfect sense always.
Do. No. Wrong.
October 30th, 2014 at 10:19 am
Two words:
1.) SH*T
2.) SHOW
GO Sucs!
October 30th, 2014 at 10:19 am
Half of the roster probably wished the would be playing elsewhere.
October 30th, 2014 at 10:24 am
Finally the Media is starting to apply pressure and hold Lovie accountable…Were we a bit quick on the trigger with Schiano?……maybe not……but this revolving door with coaches has to stop!!!
October 30th, 2014 at 10:26 am
Well according to the real fans/football experts on this site Barron is garbage. He can’t cover or tackle so why would his teammates care? They should be rejoicing right? Obviously Barron is the problem along with Banks, Martin, Vjax, glennon. I see a trend here.
The true contributors to this awesome team are the irreplaceable MJ, Collins, What the qb name he signed in the offseason?, altaron cinnamon toast crunch Verner, and eds lmao. 1-15 here we come. “Eventually we will win” – lovely smith.
October 30th, 2014 at 10:31 am
“It’s not about the future, yes its always about the future”
Cocaine is a Hell of a Drug
October 30th, 2014 at 10:36 am
Joe
Do you see the Glazers and get to ask them what are they thinking?
Do you think that Lovie is over extended because he doesn’t have an OC and can’t concentrate on defense?
Have you been able to talk to Hardy Nickerson at all for the record?
Do you think that Lovie will last the year if we keep losing?
If you could pick any college coach for the Bucs, who would it be?
October 30th, 2014 at 10:37 am
Maybe after this season is mercifully over and in the offseason Lovie will stand up in front of recording devices and say “we are a 1-15 football team” then promptly fire himself and his lapdog GM!
October 30th, 2014 at 10:40 am
Do you see the Glazers and get to ask them what are they thinking?
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LOL! These guys are in a witness protection program somewhere!
October 30th, 2014 at 10:41 am
OB- “Do you see the Glazers and get to ask them what are they thinking?”
Even if the media did have access to owners, which they so clearly do not, do you think they are going to tell the Joes what they are really thinking?
Are you you really thinking because you list of questions are asinine.
October 30th, 2014 at 10:42 am
Tampabaybucfan Says:
October 30th, 2014 at 10:24 am
Finally the Media is starting to apply pressure and hold Lovie accountable…Were we a bit quick on the trigger with Schiano?……maybe not……but this revolving door with coaches has to stop!!!
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If you marry the girl of your dreams and then find out she ran a 15 person train at your wedding including your dad and your sister are you going to keep her around for another year?
Sticking with a coach in order to satisfy a notion that we have to stick with a coach who is performing worse than the last two coaches does not make sense.
This is not Jimmy Johnson going 1-15 his first season. This is Lovie “don’t understand offense – so I am letting QB Coach Call the Plays” Smith we are talking about.
October 30th, 2014 at 10:45 am
@jo_mamma.. LOL. I don’t know if Barron or anyone else on this team would be shedding any tears if they got traded. It’s not like they’re leaving a great team. Logan Mankins is still pissed about being traded here because he was jettisoned from a good team. Most players here would be getting traded to a team better than the Bucs. Barron probably threw a party!
October 30th, 2014 at 10:47 am
More brainfarts lovie stikes again..
October 30th, 2014 at 10:47 am
strikes again^^
October 30th, 2014 at 10:47 am
If I was Casillas getting traded to the Patriots, I wouldn’t be able to pack my bags fast enough. Get to play for the “Hood” with Tom Brady and a pretty good defense.
October 30th, 2014 at 10:48 am
So Lovie, according to Stroud and Jones, should have said the reason he traded Barron was because he sucked? What is this? One of those “Gotcha” moments. So childish in so many ways. Lovie trying his best to be professional and diplomatic about it, while he actually traded a player away that so many local media and fans were advocating before the deadline. Even Joe has had his share of scolding articles about Barron. Now that Lovie has done it, Stroud and Jones act as if they expected him to be a frank di*k about it. Sorry creeps. Not everyone aspires to be “Shock Jocks”. They work for the NFL, the Buccaneers, not some low rank news feed. They have to carry themselves with some semblance of professionalism, unlike a lot of local radio and print personalities do.
We GOTCHA! …very childish …smh
October 30th, 2014 at 11:04 am
Remember when he said he didn’t want to score points before halftime earlier in the year? This is getting old…
October 30th, 2014 at 11:13 am
the reason barron was one of the only ones traded is because he is one of the few players on our roster where you could get something in return. NO ONE wants martin or Goldson. Im sure VJAX was only going to fetch a 3rd or 4th, so dont trade him. No One would want anyone else on the roster except for banks, mccoy and david and they arent going anywhere
October 30th, 2014 at 12:00 pm
I’m missing the point of everyone’s angst here. They traded players, said nice things about them and moved on. What more do you want? Total honesty from a coach? Who cares? It doesn’t take a genius to know that they didn’t like Barron’s play and were able to get something for him.
If you trade a player for draft picks, it’s about the future. If you think someone behind him can do a better job (or if the guy is a bad guy) then it’s about the present, too.
And I agree with THE OPTIMIST — it’s going to take three years of good drafting and good FA decisions to get a decent and deep core of talent on this team. I’ll say it again – Lovie and Licht’s biggest joint mistake a failure to set the right expectations. Steve Yzerman had it right — you come in say (tactfully) “Our roster sucks and it will take some time to get it right.”
October 30th, 2014 at 12:13 pm
I’ve heard a couple people use the term “stealing” lately regarding players just showing up and collecting a paycheck without putting in the effort or production reasonably expected of them. In that regard, how on Earth is Dr. Lovie Dovie Soft and Fluffy Smith Ph.D (in sucking) not “stealing” from the Glazers? We all would’ve been a bit naïve perhaps to expect a 10-6 record and the playoffs this year, but I think we can all agree that 7-8 wins this year and an undeniable change in mentality and growth as a team weren’t too much to ask or reasonably expect.
Put me on the list of Bucs fans willing to donate to a “Fire Lovie” billboard, website, etc. I’m tired of us being a perennial laughingstock of the league. It has to stop sometime.
October 30th, 2014 at 12:16 pm
Lovie is just spewing coaches speak and bullspit… He will have nothing honest or real about this team to say…
I mean come on coach Smith!!! At least put a little effort into bullspitting us… I hate to put you out and all but you are responsible for an NFL FREAKING FRANCHISE!!! and making millions of dollars…
Man is this a joke?
October 30th, 2014 at 12:17 pm
We gotta start winning or I’m afraid Lovie may lose the locker room.
October 30th, 2014 at 12:26 pm
The reason the roster sucks is because this coach only gets rid of good players he doesn’t acquire any good players. Who thinks this team is better now than a year ago? We haven’t gotten better, we’ve gotten worse and I didn’t think it was possible for the coaching to get worse than a year ago but I have been proven wrong. This team is so much worse than a year ago it’s not even funny. They would have a hard time beating the 1976 Buccaneers because the 1976 team at least put forth some effort. You see very little of that from this team.
October 30th, 2014 at 12:36 pm
They can’t evalute talent, they can’t coach guys up and get out schemed week in and week out
October 30th, 2014 at 12:37 pm
I agree with Phil
October 30th, 2014 at 12:39 pm
It’s very hard NOT to lose the locker room when you A. clearly cannot produce results on the field, B. repeatedly contradict yourself in press conferences, C. get rid of 25yr old 1st round picks for next to nothing mid-season while at the same time insisting that “we’re still in it.” He is not a good coach, cannot evaluate talent, has no emotion whatsoever, and cannot produce on-field results… how can he NOT lose the locker room? Even if they LIKE the guy, they can still all come to the clear realization that he is what he is – not the right guy to lead our team.
October 30th, 2014 at 12:44 pm
I actually liked what I read earlier when Barron said Lovie’s D is passive and wouldn’t allow him to do what he does. I didn’t like the trade or this D.
October 30th, 2014 at 12:52 pm
Lovie is incapable of telling the truth about anything.
October 30th, 2014 at 1:11 pm
@soggy. lmao. to funny but true!
October 30th, 2014 at 1:15 pm
@mike n I agree. im kind of glad vjax is still a buc I know he drops some balls but he plays hard anyway just saying.
October 30th, 2014 at 1:49 pm
replace Herron, Holiday and Sheppard with E. Page and lose 8 receptions 1 fumble, 2 returns to the 15 or less, 1 touchdown and replace 2 players with O line candidates because fresh legs is the best chance O line has.
October 30th, 2014 at 2:00 pm
Lovie comes off as arrogant and extremely passive aggressive…which is a clear indicator of his own insecurities…
should he get fired….of course not…but some humility is in order…If I were Licht I would exert my authority and get the LAST decision on personnel and coaching hires….
October 30th, 2014 at 2:02 pm
…isn’t Lovie from Texas?…I checked…everything is bigger in Texas…especially their liars….
October 30th, 2014 at 2:13 pm
“We” were absolutely 100% too quick to boot Schiano! Local duembags putting up fire Schiano billboards may have seemed pretty cute at the time, but the aftermath of Lovie Smith will be felt for many more years! Schiano had a few things to correct (dealing with pro athletes and stance on adjustments) but the dude is/was/and will be a good NFL coach…Bucs fans will be crying in a few years, mark my words
October 30th, 2014 at 3:36 pm
He couldn’t cover worth a Damn but he was the most physical hitter, I should have given up the hawk before Barron, they both suck in coverage
October 30th, 2014 at 4:10 pm
I can’t stand to even listen to Lovie speak anymore. Weak, passive energy.
October 30th, 2014 at 7:09 pm
lovie , I hope you read this, because I am so over saying this but here you go. YOU SUCK, YOU SUCK ,YOU SUCK, your defense SUCKS, your D.C. SUCKS, your offensive playcalling SUCKS, your special teams SUCK, in fact your waterboy and equipment manager SUCK. there is so much sucking going on, you would think you were watching a tidy bowl commercial, and about ya’lls equipment manager, why is it that no matter who is plying QB there is always a problem with their helmet getting plays in to them. oh man I just got a flag thrown on me for delay of blog, so f off and do not have a nice day, worst hire in the history of this miserable franchise.(user name says it all)
October 30th, 2014 at 7:10 pm
p.s. you SUCK
October 30th, 2014 at 10:43 pm
Mike n is dead on. The only players other teams wanted were Casillas and Baron, possible upside with manageable contracts. Then we get picks from teams that will have better records than us thereby moving us down in the draft order from where we were at the start of the season. Good thing this franchise has such a rich history with the draft,? otherwise I’d call BS on this.
October 30th, 2014 at 11:53 pm
Yeah let’s keep the coach carousel going, because that’s worked great. You guys are morons. This “fire the coach” after half a season mentality makes Bucs fans sound like Raiders fans.
October 31st, 2014 at 12:45 am
What players werent onboard with trading Barron???? Probably Michael Johnson who if we could trade we would trade him too. The guy has had like 3 interceptions in his 2 and a half seasons and has proabably dropped twiced that many. Lovie Smith wants defensive turnovers and at the safety position to be a playmaker you have to have interceptions plain and simple. To even bring this up shows how little Stroud and “the players” know about winning football. If the majority of players wanted to keep Barron I am questioning whether they want to win games or keep their “friends” on the team. Lovie should not have to say one word about this trade it abosolutely HAD TO HAPPEN.
October 31st, 2014 at 12:52 am
I am seconding the joke of people that want Lovie fired. It aint gonna happen and the guy did take a team to the superbowl recently. He made some bad calls on peronnel this year but hes going to get at least one more year maybe two regardless. If at the end of next year we are a less than 500 team then you can circle the wagons but right now your just blowing smoke.
October 31st, 2014 at 12:56 am
For the Schiano backers he had 3 years and we still suck. He didn’t even build a good core that Lovie Smith could do anything with. Tell me how many great players were brought to this team with Schiano in the building. Thats all you have to think about. Its not like Lovie inherited a team with a bunch of future Hall of Famers. You can blame Dominick for all of those bad hires but if you think Schiano wasnt telling who to get your dreaming the guy was and is a control freak.
October 31st, 2014 at 1:07 am
I think a lot of people are starting to realize how much Lovie benefited in Chicago from the freakish athleticism of Brian Urlacher and Lance Briggs plus Charles Tillman’s ridiculous ability to force turnovers.
The bottom line is, with Lovie’s scheme, if you can’t shut down the intermediate passing game (Urlacher/Briggs) and force a LOT of turnovers (Tillman), you will get absolutely gouged for both yardage and points. Which you are seeing now both here in Tampa (trying to run Lovie’s scheme without the personnel) and back in Chicago (which is inexplicably still running Lovie’s scheme even though all the talent is gone).
October 31st, 2014 at 1:16 pm
Nick2, Schiano had 3 years??? WTF are you smoking?