Jason Licht Calls Glennon’s Play “Outstanding”
October 13th, 2014
Yesterday afternoon, Joe really was taken back by Tampa Bay general manager Jason Licht’s analysis of Mike Glennon.
Speaking on the Buccaneers Radio Network before the beating by Baltimore, Licht enthusiastically raved about No. 8 and sure made it seem like Glennon had a stranglehold on the starting quarterback job, even if Lovie Smith won’t admit it.
“Glennon’s getting better and better every day in practice. And every week that he’s playing, he’s getting better. I thought he played outstanding [in New Orleans.] So this is fun to watch,” Licht said about an hour before the Bucs were trailing 28-0 to the Crows.
This surprised Joe a bit because Derrick Brooks gave Glennon a “C, C-” grade earlier in the week, and former Bucs QB Shaun King had delivered a “C+.” It just goes to shows the great range in evaluating a player.
(Speaking of player evaluation, Joe talked to Ravens starting center Jeremy Zuttah after yesterday’s game, and he’s very happy the Ravens evaluated him as a prime-time starter and pay him that way.)
So how did Glennon perform yesterday? The stat line shows 24-for-44, with two touchdowns, an interception and five sacks taken.
But the reality is Glennon was dreadful in the first half and his numbers came in what effectively was garbage time. Yes, he did good things on the field, but it’s awfully hard to grade him for yesterday’s effort.
Joe will say that Glennon’s poor mobility was exposed yesterday. It really impacted the Ravens’ entire game plan, and the Bucs did little by design to keep the Ravens pass rush honest. That’s one part playcalling, and another part the limitations of the signalcaller.
Regardless, the Bucs should be all-in with Glennon for the rest of the season. Nothing else makes any sense.
October 13th, 2014 at 8:35 am
Honestly he did scared me with its back foot throws. This game was bad but the blame has to go to Arroyo who didn’t adjust the playcalling for quick slants and screen passes to slow down the pressure. If glennon can’t make these quick throws then I want a qb next draft
October 13th, 2014 at 8:40 am
He was 1-9 with an INT in that first quarter. He didn’t really show up until the Ravens had let off the gas with a huge lead.
Look, Glennon wasn’t the major problem yesterday, but outstanding? Give me a break.
October 13th, 2014 at 8:41 am
The entire team sucked !! Coaches, o-line, d-line, running backs, they all sucked! Koenen needs to kick the friggin’ ball downfield and quit trying to get fair catches. Teams are starting at the 50 or better. That was pitiful at all levels ! THEY SUCKED !!!
October 13th, 2014 at 8:48 am
Glennon is improving every week. But yesterday was just a total team failure. Glennon did look better in the second half but the Ravens D started playing soft.
October 13th, 2014 at 8:48 am
My Sundays include a fair amount of RedZone channel watching. No team looks this bad.
October 13th, 2014 at 8:49 am
The OLine was dreadful, and the defense gave up 5 consecutive TDs through the air.
Glennon played meh in the first half, but he picked it up. Glennon can’t help that our defense can’t stop a runny nose. Our pass d is on pace to be worst of all time. #BringBackMyron
October 13th, 2014 at 8:50 am
Yeah I’m about as much a proponent of Glennon as you’ll find, but I wouldn’t consider last week’s performance in NO outstanding. I do think he is the best we have on roster and better than any of the QB’s taken in the first couple of rounds in this past draft. Bucs better draft good or acquire good O-linemen though if the team is going to commit to Glennon long term.
October 13th, 2014 at 8:53 am
Lol outstanding. If that’s outstanding we are in trouble he was real bad the first half
October 13th, 2014 at 9:00 am
Most of what we saw go wrong yesterday lies squarely on the shoulders of the oline.
I’m nowhere near to being an MGMer and even I see that. I rhink the entire oline ahouldbe benched for a game ro send amessage.
Defense? Who would have thought Banks being out woyld make such a difference?
October 13th, 2014 at 9:02 am
IMHO the only way Glennon can be successful is if EVERYTHING is perfect around him. Clean pocket, strong running game and stout defense. If any ONE of those things is amiss, his slow pocket clock, lack of any mobility, and the inability to audible out of bad plays and into good plays all point to a…. Backup QB.
October 13th, 2014 at 9:04 am
They need to cancel all Bucs Total Access Segments.
Don’t need to hear TJ Revees put lipstick on this pig.
October 13th, 2014 at 9:07 am
You can’t keep a pass rush honest if you can’t run the ball. O-Line is terrible.
October 13th, 2014 at 9:10 am
I am also with a lost of words about the bucs poor play….I think if our defense dont be better after the bye week. .I like him but lets can Frasier. ..whatever happen to screen past..quick slant passes . I know we have veteran offensive minded coaches on this staff even some who have been head coaches and we can’t put together a decent offensive plan…..love Lovie also but..if this all isn’t at least looking better after the bye week maybe they need to can L ovie also at the end of the year
October 13th, 2014 at 9:18 am
@ ChanEpic
only way Glennon can be successful is if EVERYTHING is perfect around him. Clean pocket, strong running game and stout defense.
Sort of like Flaco had…..
Our problem is that we don’t have those things on a consistant basis for our young 2nd year, inexpensive 3rd round pick…..
Give Glennon the protection Flaco had and let him play against our defense and see what he can do….
October 13th, 2014 at 9:18 am
This year there are a lot of bad football teams. None of them are as bad as this. Even the winless ones. This is inexcusable. I suggest no one listen to their radio shows, don’t call or text them any questions. Don’t wear any Bucs apparel and DON’T go to the next home game. Let deafening silence be our voice. This shite has got to stop.
October 13th, 2014 at 9:21 am
Unless the QB took the snap and ran on every single play there was no-way any QB could have avoided all those jailbreak sacks. It wasn’t because of lack of mobility, it was because of the offensive line, and the 5 and 8 step drops. If Glennon had designed plays for the 3 step drop like Flacco, he might have avoided most of those sacks. This one’s on Arroyo, McCown, and Smith for not recognizing and adjusting sooner to a shorter route passing game.
October 13th, 2014 at 9:24 am
We should of picked up brandon flowers last off season two this secondary is terrible
October 13th, 2014 at 9:25 am
His mobility was exposed? Your kidding right Joe? Rodgers or luck or Romo. All would have gotten smashed yesterday.
O line and Defense deserve 100% of heat from this game.
Seriously, your kidding right???
October 13th, 2014 at 9:25 am
Just read that Glennon was pressured more yesterday than any QB in any NFL game in the last 5 years (per ESPN). Yeah…that sounds about right wit this offensive line
yep bucfan….put Glennon in Flacco’s shoes yesterday….having all day and a GREAT running game, and he lights it up. Glennon has the same make up as Ryan and Flacco. None of them are super athletic, but if they have time they can carve up defenses.
October 13th, 2014 at 9:29 am
It’s hard to even discuss Glennon’s play with the rest of that sh!t storm going on out there. A fleet footed racer would of had trouble staying upright with that porous line blocking.
October 13th, 2014 at 9:33 am
Tampabaybucfan: Fair enough but I’m still not sold on Glennon as a QB to build around. That said, it sure is hard to get a full read on the guy with the swiss cheese OL he’s playing behind. That much is VERY true.
October 13th, 2014 at 9:34 am
Agree with Bucfan 37. Flacco displayed little mobility. He didn’t need to. MG was under (seemingly) constant pressure. He did quite well, imo, in those conditions. But what an incomprehensively terrible pass D. Don’t get it.
October 13th, 2014 at 9:38 am
Mobility isn’t the savior everyone thinks when there is huge pressure coming. Look at Russell Wilson and Bridgewater yesterday. Wilson had 126 yards passing and a QBR of 47.6 with great pressure from Dallas’ defensive line. Bridgewater was horrible with 3 picks.
October 13th, 2014 at 9:39 am
It’s the KISS of death for Glennon, he is gone. Licht is trying to spin his play b/c they want to get rid of him. They did the same thing before the draft, the year is over.
October 13th, 2014 at 9:39 am
ChanEpic – Very, Very Accurate Post. Well Said
The word outstanding can not be used for any aspect of the buccaneer organization.
Lovie missed on every aspect of roster building. The only FA that is not embarrassing himself is Verner and he is no Revis obviously. I did not like bucs O-Line last year but to blow it up the way they did without replacements was way to risky. I don’t blame Licht; I actually like him but has Dallas points out on every post that he is nothing more than a Lap Dog. Head coach should be a head coach and a gm needs to be a gm this shared role crap never works out in my opinion.
Glazers need to man up and sell the team. It’s time for the little clowns to admit running a NFL team is too complicated for them.
October 13th, 2014 at 9:40 am
how can people be fooled by licht? this was another disaster. two losses like these come from a lack of talent unless the team is all rookies, which we are not. we are expecting too much from lovie with this roster.
October 13th, 2014 at 9:41 am
We look slow. Always a step or two away.
October 13th, 2014 at 9:47 am
The only thing outstanding about Glennon’s performance is he made it through the game alive. Outstanding job not getting killed as the turnstiles spun to let the Ravens through at will. Glennon made a few bad decisions but ultimately probably was the least of the concerns yesterday. The play of the lines and secondary was unspeakably bad.
October 13th, 2014 at 9:56 am
Maybe the NFL should start a junior varsity league and
stock it with the Bucs, the Jags and the Raiders and a few
expansion teams to be named later.
We’ll call it “The NFL lite”.
Kind of like NFL Europe but more touchy-feely.
#PFUDOR
October 13th, 2014 at 10:03 am
You can’t judge a QB fairly with our offensive line, Doug Martin, and our soft D.
How many sacks does our D have the last two games? 0!?
October 13th, 2014 at 10:04 am
Glennon is just one more bad player on a roster of bad players. Lucky for him garbage time was the entire 2nd half so could pad his stats to give the mob something to defend him with.
October 13th, 2014 at 10:05 am
Joe
His interception was caused by being hit while throwing it so ir didn’t have the power it should have.
October 13th, 2014 at 10:05 am
Maybe the Glazers are setting up for a move to Los Angeles?
October 13th, 2014 at 10:07 am
Glennon would be fine if he had time but I think yesterday was a bit of a learning lesson for him. He struggled a bit finding his hot WR on the delayed blitzes.
October 13th, 2014 at 10:14 am
I now know what the cause is for our slow starts on offense….,.,Our offense practices against our defense all week….then, in the game we play against real defenses and it takes us a half to adjust to that.
How would Glennon play against our defense in a real game?
October 13th, 2014 at 10:15 am
Considering Glennon has to play with the crappiest O-Line, and Offensive Coordinator in the league, I’d say he’s playing Outstanding too considering what he’s been given to work with.
No QB would be successful without pass blocking, a running game, or the ability to check out of play calls that won’t work.
October 13th, 2014 at 10:19 am
I recorded the game and re-watched the offense. If Glennon had 3 seconds to throw he did well. If he had 2 seconds or less he didn’t do very good. I’m not sure if that comes down to the play calling (as in it takes more than 2 seconds for the play to develop or if it was just not enough time to do the check downs). So if Glennon can just get 3 seconds he can throw. I felt bad for him yesterday.
October 13th, 2014 at 10:21 am
SteveK Says:
October 13th, 2014 at 10:05 am
Maybe the Glazers are setting up for a move to Los Angeles?
____________________________________
No way.
The said “The fans are the stockholders” and that they’re
not moving so I completely believe them.
They even hired spin-doctor Ari Fleicher to help their
image with the fans.
These are good people who put the Tampa community
way before silly things like MONEY.
#PFUDOR in LA baby!
#LA team has failed 2x but this time it will work!
#It’s the fans fault the Bucs suck!!
October 13th, 2014 at 10:23 am
I just hope we get a huge huge huge financial settlement
from those creeps when they move.
I’ll volunteer my time to whatever law firm is representing
Tampa.
October 13th, 2014 at 10:24 am
Glennon was sacked or put under pressure on 26 of his 49 dropbacks, or 63 percent. That’s the highest pressure percentage of any quarterback with 40 drop backs in the last five years. Glennon completed just 6 of 21 passes when he was under pressure. When he wasn’t pressured, Glennon completed 18 of 23.
October 13th, 2014 at 10:37 am
Glennon was rated right between Dalton and Rivers this weekend.
The only difference is that Glennon had no protection at all whereas
Rivers and Dalton had good protection.
Suck on that haters.
October 13th, 2014 at 10:43 am
His field vision is suspect. There were 2 plays yesterday back to back where the first he scrambled, and threw to a receiver for 8 yards when right in front of him he could have hit Martin who’d have been clear to get 20+ yac.
The next play he threw to the tight end for an okay gain, but the left wideout had 6 steps on the corner and would have taken it all the way for a TD.
Not a franchise QB.
October 13th, 2014 at 10:53 am
Here comes the excuse train….
First off let me start by saying… I’ve said it numerous times he should start the rest of the year after seeing McCown revert back to his previous 2013 self…
Second let me say that I hope I am COMPLETELY wrong on this kid and he becomes a complete STUD…
But yesterday was awful…. I don’t care how you slice it up… HE just plain SUCKED… Throwing off his back foot constantly and careless with the football(another dropped pick or 2)… Holding the ball far too long… If he knows he is getting his Sh!t stuffed every play go over to Arroyo and call a couple move the pocket play it really is that simple… Line shift assignments… Screen pass… A deep ball or 2 to make the defense respect you…
Yes the O-line didn’t play great but you don’t hear Tom Brady, Rodgers, Matt Ryan, or Joe Flacco complaining or getting an excuse for their piss poor O-line play?
Yes he improved in the 2nd half but seriously that was the Ravens letting up and just trying not to get hurt when that game was done and over with in the 1st quarter(hell before they stepped onto the field)..
You can compile all his great stats together and average it out to a season all you want but it’s only the most basic stats that are out there and doesn’t tell me if the QB is actually good or not..
Like here are some good stat lines for 16 games aside from the last one…
63.4 %
3,693 yards
21 TD’s
11 Int’s
89.4 QB Rating
58.2 %
3,116 yards
27 TD’s
7 Int’s
93.0 QB rating
61.4 %
3,451 yards
25 TD’s
6 Int’s
95.6 QB Rating
62.7%
3,937
33 TD’s
16 Int’s
98.0 QB Rating
69.2%
4,717 yards
39 TD’s
11 Int’s
110.9 QB Rating
64.0%
2,509 yards (in 12 games)
18 Td’s
3 Int’s
102.2 QB rating
You would probably take that all day if you could get that kind of production from Glennon or any QB for that matter right?? Well here are the QB’s listed above in order… Matt Cassell, Matt Cassell, Josh Freeman, Daunte Culpepper, Daunte Culpepper and David Garrard.
I’m not saying Glennon is as bad as them just don’t use the most plain stats to tell me a QB is good or not.. I think we can ALL agree we wouldn’t take any of those QB’s aside from the seasons listed above.
October 13th, 2014 at 10:55 am
I miss the black out days….
October 13th, 2014 at 10:55 am
I read on espn where glennon was pressured the most of any qb in the last 5 yrs.
October 13th, 2014 at 11:03 am
Yesterdays oline performance was indeed the worst rated in the last 5 years. Only Mike Vick in his prime with elite accuracy would not have gotten killed yesterday,
October 13th, 2014 at 11:09 am
Phillip: Yes the O-line didn’t play great but you don’t hear Tom Brady, Rodgers, Matt Ryan, or Joe Flacco complaining or getting an excuse for their piss poor O-line play?
When did you hear Glennon complain about this offensive line? Every time any of those QBs have a rough game, your damn right the fans and press complain that their offensive line stunk if it happened. Glennon had more pressure yesterday than any QB in the last 5 years, per ESPN. That’s a fact!
I don’t want to hear Russell Wilson would have done better yesterday….just go look at his game yesterday….way worse than Glennon’s with a much better team around him
October 13th, 2014 at 11:19 am
Reading is fundamental: The quote from Licht was BEFORE the game and about his performance the previous two weeks.
There’s NO QB in today’s League that could perform well under the conditions this young fella played in yesterday. He made some bad throws..No doubt about it. But every QB playing in a competitive game does. Yesterday, Glennon got an exemption from me. He was put in an open gauntlet. For microcosm of yesterday’s total effort by the O-line, look at the last offensive play.
October 13th, 2014 at 11:23 am
I posted last week just wait until Glennon has a bad game and see the people come out and try to take his head off. I guess I was right. He didn’t have a great/outstanding game, but under the duress and physicality of it all he did ok.
October 13th, 2014 at 11:29 am
@Phillip I don’t where your logic comes from(seems like a bad mix of old school hard nosed 70s football and New school Madden video game-easy fix advanced stats), but it’s not making sense to me.
In his 2nd year, not as a starter, Mike Glennon isn’t calling his own plays. Forget about that. He’s not going over to tell the interim OC what to call. Audible? Yes, maybe.
Throwing off his back foot is pretty normal when running away from pressure that’s coming straight up the middle with no room to step up. If you’ve watched him play any this season, you should be able to pick up that that’s exactly what he’s been doing when he’s had the room.
October 13th, 2014 at 11:29 am
Jesus Christ, bring Champ Bailey in for a tryout, he has to be better in the secondary than the garbage I saw on the field yesterday!
Yesterday I give Glennon a big fat F; you have to base the grade on the first half, before the Ravens got soft in the second half and coasted. The Bucs barely had over 100 yards offense and Glennon served up a pick that st up TD #2. Nothing was even remotely mediocre in the first hald concerning the Yucs; an embarrassing performance and Licht is already started the BS spin to smooth things through the bye week. I am guessing that since the Bucs did manage one win that Licht and Lovie’s jobs are safe; in a way I feel that this will simply make the team worse in the short term, now they just have to aim at making the Bucs a BETTER team in 2015 and that will not take much: 5-11 would be a considerable jump over the 2 or 3 wins they will likely win this year… Tough Being a Bucs Fan today……
October 13th, 2014 at 11:33 am
@Bill
First I’d take Russell Wilson all day and twice on Sunday’s over Glennon
Second padded 2nd half stats don’t make a player any better than he was when the game actually mattered so throw that crap right out the window…
Third Brady, Rodgers, Ryan, and Flacco have a WORSE O-Line than(Brady has less weapons than us as does Flacco) us… Why can they all throw the ball down the field and preform with no problem? Ya Glennon hasn’t started a full season yet but there are plenty of QB’s who have way less that do WAY more…
Btw when have the Packers, Falcons, and Ravens D become world beaters all of the sudden? You can easily score on any of them PERIOD.
I don’t care how pressured he was yesterday…The kid sucked yesterday period. He decided to eat sacks, run out of bounds for a loss, or throw the ball carelessly into coverage instead of throwing the ball away..
BTW I didn’t place full blame on the kid either… Just don’t go showing me his stupid rookie stats or projected stats for this season to back up his play when it was awful.. Padded 2nd half stats are USELESS.
When you play like sh!t there is no sugarcoating it…
October 13th, 2014 at 11:42 am
Okay you are telling me that the QB OF THE FUTURE is getting beaten to a pulp he can’t walk over to his ROOKIE OC (who shouldn’t be his OC btw) and recommend a rollout to move the pocket to give him a clean window to throw through, a deep ball or 2 to respect us a little more, or a couple screen plays? He can’t make offensive line adjustments out there? He’s just calling out the blitz and can’t audible into another play?
Get real dude… Excuses are piling up and its getting ridiculous…. The kid can do absolutely no wrong in the eyes of the MGM… But the second someone who has on record stated numerous times I hope he plays good that he sucked yesterday ALONG WITH the O-line, defense, and coaching the world comes crumbling down…
But hey atleast he has those great junk time stats to back up his play… smh
October 13th, 2014 at 11:44 am
If Licht believes what he said it helps explain why the team is so bad. Glennon is not the main problem this team has but he is in no way outstanding. It’s past time to stop pretending this team is in anything other than a major rebuilding mode with major correctable mistakes made in personnel and coaching this year. It’ll never get fixed until L&L are honest with themselves, the Brothers, the team and the fans.
October 13th, 2014 at 11:45 am
I’ll just say this; I don’t care how good or bad Mike Glennon looked in another disgusting team effort yesterday. The bottom line is that Glennon needs to remain at QB for the rest of the season. The team needs to see what they have after almost two seasons of a sample size before deciding on going all in on a QB with what appears to be a top five pick in the 2015 draft.
Keep Glennon in and if he craps the bed, at least he’ll be servicible as a backup QB at a cheap price for the Bucs. Just don’t sit him, no matter how ugly it gets, because this team needs to do something bold in the draft for next season one way or another.
October 13th, 2014 at 11:46 am
Anyone who blames this on Glennon is a fool with an agenda. Mike Glennon is the least of this team’s problem. As it is, there isn’t another QB in the league who would have played all that much better than Glennon. Brees, Manning, Brady, Rivers, Romo, ect…would have been marginally better behind that horrible offensive line and with that horrible play calling.
October 13th, 2014 at 11:51 am
@Phillip: ” to throw through, a deep ball or 2 to respect us a little more, or a couple screen plays?”
I am so glad you brought that up. They actually DID try to run a screen in the first quarter I believe. How did the play play out? Glennon threw an uncatchable ball in the ground, ON A SCREEN PLAY.
I invite anyone to take a look at Glennon’s draft profile: http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/profiles/mike-glennon?id=2539275
And tell me the weaknesses described in that profile didn’t fit Glennon’s play not just yesterday his whole NFL career.
October 13th, 2014 at 11:53 am
D-Rome: No one is saying Glennon is the MAIN problem with this team. Rather, that he is A problem. As a way of pointing out that the position of QB has to be addressed and not as a personal attack on Glennon. Separate the emotion from reality.
October 13th, 2014 at 12:04 pm
Based of problems I would say next years draft should go as follows:
O-Line
D-Line
Secondary
QB
October 13th, 2014 at 12:13 pm
I agree with this. Sure, everyone will be clamoring for a QB in the first round like they do every year but clearly there are more pressing needs.
October 13th, 2014 at 12:21 pm
So if the MOST important position on the team is constantly put off till the 3rd or 4th rounds because we have a serviceable QB to keep getting us by how successful do you think we will be at landing at a franchise changing QB?
October 13th, 2014 at 12:24 pm
The most important positions in football are your 5 o-lineman. Show me how many great QBs have won the Super Bowl with a bottom 10 offensive line. The answer is almost certainly 0.
October 13th, 2014 at 12:32 pm
please no more mediocre, pinocchio, wanna be a real, mirage of a qb! we needed a qb drafted last year and are in dire straights this year. glennon will lead us nowhere.
October 13th, 2014 at 12:33 pm
@ Phillip: Brady, Rodgers, Ryan, and Flacco have a WORSE O-Line than(Brady has less weapons than us as does Flacco) us
Say what? We have the worst OL in FOOTBALL. Just like we have the worst Defense in FOOTBALL. That says it all. Brady, Rodgers, Ryan and Flacco would have been destroyed yesterday. Having said that, all these guys including Glennon would have all put up huge numbers against our Defense yesterday. Hell, I could have thrown for 250 yards and 3 TDs, LOL.
The team is terrible, and the coaching isn’t any better. Everyone thinks Lovie will make it better than Schiano. Hell no. The Dallas D is better this year because they DON’T play the Tampa 2 as their base defense. Lovie is too stubborn or no smart enough to change with the times.
October 13th, 2014 at 12:37 pm
Only in Tampa can a guy pass for 62 yards and like one first half and be talked about like he’s the best player on the offense only in Tampa. Last time I checked, offensive line doesn’t throw interceptions at their own 20 yard line, he got pressure just as much last year and looked just as bad. Don’t tell me he is getting better in practice when he’s going up against a lovie defense. Tampa is the only team that drops passes and has a bad o line. When his career is over Glennon apologists will say Glennon could have been a pro bowler but receivers dropped all his passes, no one blocked for him and his running backs wouldn’t gain any yards
October 13th, 2014 at 12:45 pm
latest draft projection has us taking Mariotta.
October 13th, 2014 at 12:51 pm
The team showed no O line protection and no D line penetration in the first half blowout. Blame it on Glennon. The anti Glennon mob smells blood and to them Glennon is the one bleeding. I knew their anti MG venom was just subdued waiting for an opening to pounce on Glennon as the culprit no matter the rest of the team’s level of play.
October 13th, 2014 at 1:00 pm
Glennon was not good yesterday, no one is saying he deserves no blame. But on the list of Bucs issues that need to be fixed, he ranks very low on the priority list. Not even a top 5 problem right now. So can we stop acting like any QB could succeed with this team?
October 13th, 2014 at 1:55 pm
Until the Bucs address both the offensive and defensive line play the rest really doesn’t matter much! NO quarterback would have thrived yesterday. It took until the second half to realize we had to get away from 7 step drops?? The offensive coordinator is way over is head! The defense is just not good period!
October 13th, 2014 at 2:01 pm
@Bill
No the teams listed above have a worse O-line than us… We have pass protected pretty decent this year aside from last game…
But sure the others are worse…
October 13th, 2014 at 2:04 pm
So your solution is to draft a QB every year in the first round until we find one that can win us games? Or do you suggest we draft a QB in the 1st and 2nd round just to make sure, but not worry about the most glaring problems on the Defense and Offense? That makes about as much sense as Lovie’s defense.
No QB from last draft is doing anything. I’m not sure there is a great QB in this upcoming draft either. Mariotta might, but that is hard to tell right now. Miss St. QB could be ok. I’m sure the MIss St. QB will be there in the 2nd or 3rd rd. But you want to reach on crap QBs from college? Makes no sense.
October 13th, 2014 at 2:05 pm
Also, none of those QBs drafted in the 1st rd last year should have been drafted in the 1st round. Just teams drafting on need versus BPA. We will continue to suck as long as we go off need. We will miss every time.
October 13th, 2014 at 2:52 pm
Who said anything about drafting a QB last year? Most thought Freeman could build off his 2012 campaign.. What about this draft we did pick 7th? I love Mike Evans(got his jersey in fact) but we had a new coach, a new OC, and a high draft pick to set our hooks and go all in with and we didn’t… We went and signed McCown and decided to play the game of hmm is Glennon the guy or not when people came calling with offers…
Carr Bortles and Bridgewater have all showed promise this year in fact… Plus this upcoming draft has promise in Petty Mariota and Hundley… No one ever said keep drafting 1st and 2nd round QB’s in consecutive years… You draft one like we did in 09 find out whether he is the QB hopefully within 3 years and if not go back again…
October 13th, 2014 at 2:55 pm
I am not MGM, I don’t want him to be the franchise QB, but yesterday was not his fault. I know going in that against a “real” defense he would struggle, because the Oline would not be able to protect him. MG8 did not lose the game, the Oline is heavily to blame, however the entire defense has to shoulder the majority of fault.
October 13th, 2014 at 2:56 pm
I’m talking about the draft earlier this year. This upcoming draft I consider this year and the last draft last year, but whatever.
Carr, Bortles, and Bridgewater have done nothing but lose. You would be calling for them to be benched as well. Unless we get a QB that wins every game you all will be crying that our QBs suck.
So Glennon has another year then. We will find out in 3 yrs, right? So we won’t draft a QB in the 1st.
October 13th, 2014 at 3:11 pm
I’m not a member of the MGM. I just want who ever is starting for us to play good solid football. Mike is doing that ! Do I think some other QB’s would have played better yesterday ?… Hell yes, but they (manning, Brees, Brady, etc.) all have the resume and respect to go to the side lines and tell the OC that this sh!t won’t fly. Mike is not there yet, though I’m starting to believe he can get there. There is no way Lovie is going to let his 2nd year QB tell his 1st year OC/QB coach to change the game plan… NOT GONNA HAPPEN ! I won’t say that some of you dislike/hate Mike, but I will say that you lack respect for what this young man has accomplished and the strides he has made as a QB. Give credit were credit is due. If you can’t do that , then you need to work REALLY hard on digging your head out of your arse. GO BUCS !!!!!!!
October 13th, 2014 at 3:28 pm
“But you want to reach on crap QBs from college? Makes no sense.”
like we reached on glennon?
please, carr, bortles, and bridgewater all have more talent and upside than glennon. glennon is a great backup qb. don’t let his mirage stats fool you again. glennon is a mediocre starting qb. that is not anti-glennon, that is pro-bucs and pro-winning.
draft a qb #1.
October 13th, 2014 at 7:50 pm
You can put a lot of blame on the OL for the QB play, but the real concern is Licht here.
I mean I see 2 reasons for him making that comment:
-Either he’s blowing smoke up our butts and saying it because he feels he has to
or B, and more concerning:
-He actually believes it
I have been seriously concerned with the decision making of the higher-ups on this team since the pre season. Bad teams are made to be bad because of long-term poor drafting in addition to trading away talent without sufficient return. We have had several high draft picks the past ten years and this should be the time when we are seeing the return.
I see a bust at safety, a bust at DE, a possible bust at RB, and a bust at WR without a QB to throw to him. In addition to a bust at CB, since we traded away out “first round pick” after a year.
In addition, L + L have traded away or let go of players at positions of need on this team that are starting now for much better teams…
My friends, it’s bad and it WILL GET WORSE BEFORE IT GETS BETTER.
– very concerned Buc fan