Former Bucs QB Joins The Mike Glennon Mob
October 3rd, 2014
We already know Bucs icon Warren Sapp is 100 percent all-in with Mike Glennon as the Tampa Bay starting quarterback for the remainder of 2014.
Plenty of other ex-Bucs and top NFL analysts also are finished with the Josh McCown Experiment.
And now a former Buccaneers quarterback has requested a membership card in the Mike Glennon Mob.
Shaun King, one of three Bucs QBs to lead the team to the NFC Championship game, said “absolutely” there is no quarterback controversy in Tampa.
“I think Mike Glennon, it’s his job to lose. You know I think Lovie brought Josh McCown in as much for his locker room presence, as he did expecting him to go out and duplicate what he did last year in Chicago. I just think Lovie saw a team that didn’t have a veteran presence and wanted to bring a good guy in, Josh is a good guy, to have in that locker room,” King said on WDAE-AM
“If Glennon plays well, this is Glennon’s job. If Glennon doesn’t play well, then the Bucs will be drafting a quarterback next year in the first round. I don’t think there’s a whole lot that Josh could do when he came back, that would make the Bucs not go quarterback in round 1 next year. But if Glennon plays well, that eliminates that problem going forward.”
You can listen to King’s full take below. Of course, Joe is on board here. Don’t misunderstand, Glennon has much to prove to show the Bucs don’t need to draft a guy with “franchise-QB” potential. Don’t lose sight of the goal: a Super Bowl.
October 3rd, 2014 at 9:11 am
After watching the game again last night, I think Glennon is going to be the QB that we always wanted.
He moved well in the pocket and avoided the rush. He released th ball quicker than any QB that I have ever seen in a Bucs uniform, and his arm strength was more than enough to drive it down field.
Other than a few over throws, and some bad drops by the receivers, I think this offense might actually have a shot at being decent this season.
October 3rd, 2014 at 9:14 am
Best thing Glennon could do is go in there Sunday and hang with Drew and the Saints. That would go a long way in stabilizing things.
October 3rd, 2014 at 9:33 am
Glennon should do well against the Saints. Saints pass defense is not that good. The Bucs will need to have a game plan for the blitz.
October 3rd, 2014 at 9:35 am
I can understand bringing in a vet, I’ll never understand handing him the starting qb position without a competition. I know every team deals with injuries, i would love to see the Bucs with a full healthy squad, which probably won’t happen till game 7 after the bye week.
October 3rd, 2014 at 9:44 am
Don’t lose sight of the goal: a Super Bowl.
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Don’t lose sight of the fact that there are 31 other teams with that same goal in mind. Expectations have to be realistic. We have to learn to crawl before we learn to walk. Let’s try to put together a winning season first, and don’t lose sight of the fact that this is Lovie and Jason first year. #patience
October 3rd, 2014 at 9:49 am
I have some confidence in Glennon to step up to the challenge and be productive on the road in a tough environment. Question is, can the defense step up for once?
October 3rd, 2014 at 9:50 am
@ Buxfan
The Saints are saying the same thing about the Bucs. Both teams have given up EXACTLY 1090 yds on defense. The good news is that the Saints have only 5 sacks, for the year, whereas the Bucs are now at 9. The Saints are also (very slightly) more susceptible to the deep ball. The difference in the deep-ball defense between the Bucs and Saints is miniscule, so let us hope that the Buc defense is getting better each week as they get more comfortable with the plays and each other.
October 3rd, 2014 at 10:00 am
Glennon played like a franchise QB against Pittsburgh, at least in the second half. However, it is absolutely foolish for anyone to assume he is without question the QB of the future on what we’ve seen so far. We’ve been down this road far too many times as Buccaneer fans. He played well for one half of one game, let’s not go putting him in the hall of fame just yet. If he is able to have a similar outing a few times this year, then we can talk. I really hope he can do it, because we have other needs in the draft, so it would be nice to (for once) not have to worry about QB.
October 3rd, 2014 at 10:02 am
I hope Glennon is the guy and we can get a DE or an LT next year in the first round.
October 3rd, 2014 at 10:05 am
It seems like the line is getting long to join the MGM, stretching way back there out of sight. Welcome to the future of the Bucs at the QB position. Is there really anybody out there in college that I would take over Glennon right now? NOPE, not by a long shot.
October 3rd, 2014 at 10:22 am
I don’t understand the MGM love. He just is not all that and a bag of chips. I know what I saw last year and I watched him this year, he is just not that great, maybe below average at best. If the Saints score 30, it would be a miracle if the Bucs under Glennon could do the same, without a couple of pick 6’s.
October 3rd, 2014 at 10:28 am
Mike Glennon should not be handed the job. He should take it. I have no doubt that he is better than McCown at this point, but that isn’t saying much, really.
I view it like this…if Mike cannot overwhelm us, then I would rather keep in McCown and get a top draft pick. I love to win, but if we don’t get a franchise QB in here, we ain’t going to.
If Mike Glennon is that guy, he needs to leave zero doubt. So I’m all for him earning the starting role before getting it. The last thing we need is for him to go .500 and cost us a true QB.
October 3rd, 2014 at 10:32 am
So after one game Glennon had the tools to keep up with drew brees. There’s way too much gushing over this dude, stop sniffing his jock. If you listen to everyone around the league Glennon is a good quarterback, he’s a better option than mccown and that’s it lol it’s not saying all that much. No one has erased the idea of us drafting a quarterback. Glennon still has to give us a reason not to which one game couldn’t possibly do, people are still debating if he goes back to the bench or not, everyone except mgm….. Long live mgm which will be until 2015 draft will lovie and licht can get their own guy….. Someone with athleticism and speed at quarterback
October 3rd, 2014 at 10:37 am
I have to ride Glennon’s and the teams momentum until it crashes, which is doubtful imo. This pirate ship has righted itself and a respectable season is on the horizon.
October 3rd, 2014 at 10:46 am
Problem is, if Glennon wins 5-6 more games we will have zero shot at a top qb to draft next year w/o moving up in the draft.
October 3rd, 2014 at 10:47 am
@ buc4lyfe
While I’ve been disagreeing with you on Glennon for quite awhile now I give you props for not flip flopping on your stance like a lot of people. Yes it’s fine to change an opinion as more facts become available, but at the same time I’m chuckling reading some posts from people who blasted me and other so called MGM’ers last season and during the offseason that are now all on board with Mike. Welcome aboard the MG8 bandwagon, but I imagine many will jump off if he has one average game
October 3rd, 2014 at 10:48 am
Just say something positive about Glennon’s play or possibilities, you will aggravate the anti MGM and the derision will follow quickly behind your comment. It helps me to seperate those for and against MG8 better.
October 3rd, 2014 at 10:49 am
make that separate
October 3rd, 2014 at 10:52 am
The Steelers Defense is average AT BEST, and I predicted on these very comment threads that the Buccs would win outright in Pitt even with Glennon. Does anyone really think Glennon makes a difference the first two weeks and even the Atlanta game (in which he didn’t play well) when the offensive line didnt play well, there were many injuries to key players. We get one victory (and it took us two chances to win that game). Now, NOLA doesn’t have the greatest D’ either, but their offense always seems to give our d’ fits, especially Graham. I dont forsee a blowout, but this should be a tougher test for Glennon in a dome trying to keep pace with NOLA’s offense.
October 3rd, 2014 at 10:59 am
@ToesOnTheLine
Lol I get it and get I’m a fan of the bucs so I want him to do well kinda. So basically this reminds me of josh Freeman and free had great games just more bad head scratching than good. I we could have drafted a quarterback when we got mark Barron. I think he’s average so I don’t wanna go through that again. Now having said that my only issue with him is deep ball accuracy and how cowardly he is about taking shots hence the label captain check down, even inaccurate if he keeps making an attempt atleast like last week then I’ll get onboard but I don’t think he will
October 3rd, 2014 at 11:09 am
I think McCown’s thumb is just fine. I think at 0-3, and a 6 percent chance of making the playoffs. Lovie told McCown your done, and there is no injury.
The fake injury is only so it doesn’t look like he just wasted 10 million dollars of Glazers money on a back up QB in his first year as the Bucs HC.
That’s my theory and I’m sticking to it.
October 3rd, 2014 at 11:17 am
I think the one thing we can all agree on is the josh mccown era was a disaster, he has that dear in the headlights look the entire time.
Ride or for with Glennon. Good or bad I prefer a quarterback in the first round to push or back him up
October 3rd, 2014 at 11:44 am
buc4lyfe…if they get high enough in the draft I’d like them to take a QB. Will Lovie do that? Hmmm I really don’t think so if you look at his Chicago days, Rex Grossman…then again the past is the past.
Who knows? Who thought Lovie would go all O in the draft? Not me.
I think Lovie is very unpredictable and hard to read when it comes to off the field stuff. At least for me it is right now. Too early to gauge the guy right now..
October 3rd, 2014 at 12:15 pm
@feelthepewterpower, Yes I think we win the first two games had glennon been the starter with offseason starter reps.. Hey maybe if lovie got hester instead of atlanta getting him for 3 mil we might even be perfect 0-4.. Just sayin don’t seal club me, its just my opinion..
October 3rd, 2014 at 12:16 pm
@feelthepewterpower, Yes I think we win the first two games had glennon been the starter with offseason starter reps.. Hey maybe if lovie got hester instead of atlanta getting him for 3 mil we might even be perfect 4-0.. Just sayin don’t seal club me, its just my opinion..
October 3rd, 2014 at 12:17 pm
sorry 4-0 ^^
October 3rd, 2014 at 12:37 pm
I am almost certain the Bucs would have beaten the Rams if Glennon were starting and probably the Panthers too. The guy is far more talented than Pineapple McCown is or ever has been. Only thing MCCown had over him was veteran experience and a better preseason relationship with the new head coach. That 0-3 MCCown blunder is all on Lovie, but redemption is just a bunch more wins away. Here’s to hoping I’ll be changing my tune in a few more weeks about Schiano being a better Bucs HC than Lovie…so far not in my eyes but keep winning and I’ll flip flop faster than the new MGM recruits/generals 🙂
October 3rd, 2014 at 12:51 pm
I do not expect Glennon to be perfect. He still needs experience like our defense with Tampa 2. Let’s be parent we are on the right track now. like my Gatoes, wait until next year.
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October 3rd, 2014 at 1:58 pm
Cannon, finally watching the broadcast (i was one of what seemed like only 12 guys in bucs jerseys at heinz field), especially the second half, and i really liked what i saw even when there was no play to be made. based on what we hear about glennon’s makeup, it’s easy to anticipate that he will continue to improve his game with more starts and more tape to look at.
and i love how he has done it his whole (brief) career in adverse conditions for the team. last year he played smart football with only one proven NFL skill player amid the schiano death march season. this year coming in after everyone wrote the season off, going into pittsburgh and overcoming dick lebau with marcus arroyo in his ear. just imagine if he had an OC and a full-time QB coach
October 3rd, 2014 at 2:34 pm
I agree that glennon should be given every chance possible to earn the starting spot moving forward. But unlike Joe, I am not claiming MGM. I don’t believe he is the guy to lead us to a super bowl. But we need to figure what we have. McCown is a great back up and good spot starter, but he obviously isnt the future. Let’s just play glennon until he screws up bad enough that he is costing us games. And if that doesn’t happen them let him finish year, And evaluate if you think he is THE guy, or just another guy. I’m sure this is what Lovie is planning going forward, but he just won’t come out and say it.
Let’s clear some things up to. If you think glennon is a world bEater then you are MGM. If you think he should be the starter just to see what we have then you are not MGM, Joe is not MGM. He falls in the same category as me, “give him a shot, but I don’t think he’s really that good.”
October 3rd, 2014 at 2:41 pm
Buc1987 Says:
October 3rd, 2014 at 11:09 am
I think McCown’s thumb is just fine. I think at 0-3, and a 6 percent chance of making the playoffs. Lovie told McCown your done, and there is no injury.
The fake injury is only so it doesn’t look like he just wasted 10 million dollars of Glazers money on a back up QB in his first year as the Bucs HC.
That’s my theory and I’m sticking to it.
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So you must not have watched him destroy his Thumb TWICE on a dudes helmet Against the Falcons.
October 3rd, 2014 at 4:41 pm
87 n tbf
I believe that to be the case with Martin n mccoy. Mccown looks to have a legit cast on his hand. But then again what do I know.
October 3rd, 2014 at 5:51 pm
I agree with 1987, McCown could play if MG get’s hurt. Lovie should tell the fans the truth. All of Lovie’s interactions with McCown seem secretive and suspect.
October 3rd, 2014 at 6:04 pm
“Just say something negative about Glennon’s play or possibilities, you will aggravate the MGM and the derision will follow quickly behind your comment. It helps me to seperate those for and against MG8 better.”
“make that separate”
…it works both ways
October 3rd, 2014 at 8:09 pm
“So you must not have watched him destroy his Thumb TWICE on a dudes helmet Against the Falcons.”
Yep you’re right I didn’t. Even if I did, I still wouldn’t believe it.
McCown’s thumb is fine.
October 3rd, 2014 at 8:17 pm
Trubucfan22 Says:
October 3rd, 2014 at 2:34 pm
“Let’s clear some things up to. If you think glennon is a world bEater then you are MGM. If you think he should be the starter just to see what we have then you are not MGM, Joe is not MGM. He falls in the same category as me, “give him a shot, but I don’t think he’s really that good.”
I’ve been trying to tell people that last part in here for over a week now.
Although I don’t see all that many people (fans) that claim to be MGM (SteveK, robert9, or Couch Fan)that ever made any suggestions that he was a future star. Have you? Have you ever seen anyone of these people suggest that he’s world beater? Because I live on JBF and I haven’t seen it. Not this year or last.
October 3rd, 2014 at 8:26 pm
I just saw the video on NFL.com of him hitting his hand on the helmet. Yep he hurt his thumb alright. To the point where he had to get out of the game after throwing a pick and completing 41% of his passes for 58 yards.
He hit his hand on the helmet. It hurt. Broken, damaged to the point of a cast?
Nope STILL not buying it.
October 3rd, 2014 at 9:26 pm
many an mgmer has directly or indirectly compared glennon to many a great qb. so that is not saying he is a future star?
also, a cast is used to immobilize. even if the thumb is not fractured, it may still need to be immobilized.
either way, i did not want mccown here. i knew there were no good free agent qb’s in free agency last year or the next few. we needed, and still do, to draft a qb. lovie made poor personnel/draft choices. however, glennon gives us the best chance to win now.
October 3rd, 2014 at 10:38 pm
lurker Says:
October 3rd, 2014 at 9:26 pm
“many an mgmer has directly or indirectly compared glennon to many a great qb. so that is not saying he is a future star?”
No. The comparisons were of their (great QBs) first year. If they are similar, it just gives credence to there being ‘potential’ that Glennon can continue to get better, just like they did. If their first year(s) were similar, how can you say they WON’T be similar in the coming years? I have yet to read where ANYONE said Glennon will be the next Manning/Brady/Marino/etc.
But just for kicks and giggles, let’s look at a former Buccaneer, Brad Johnson.
I’ll start off by saying that it’s not really fair to compare Johnson’s (or ANY other QBs) career to Glennon. First of all, the teams they played for and against are different. Second, and most importantly, Brad had the luxury of watching and learning for 2 1/2 years before being ‘thrown’ into the starting job. He had actual mentors who mentored, and coaches who coached.
But just to throw the facts into the conversation…
Glennons’s first 9 games (starting)
64.53% pass compl.
13-5 TD/INT
7.37 Y/A
94.78 QBR
Brad’s first 9 games (low pressure experience doing rookie & second season mop-up duty, NO starts)
64.45% pass compl.
0-2 TD/INT
5.85 Y/A
68.4 QBR
And lest I not be called unfair, here are the stats from Brad’s first 9 ‘starts’ (these are from his THIRD and FOURTH years in the league)
61.77% pass compl.
17-11 TD/INT
7.48 Y/A
89.57 QBR
This does NOT indicate that Glennon will have a career similar to Brad’s, but it makes a better argument that he CAN than he can’t/won’t.
October 3rd, 2014 at 10:42 pm
They’ve compared him to whom? I’ve compared him to a poor man’s Flacco.
They’ve brought up rookie stats of good QB’s and compared them to Glennon’s. I did see a lot of that. I never saw anyone saying he was going to be the next Manning or Br-ady or any of those guys.
Never seen it. If I see it or you see it again. Point them out for me.
I did name the 3 biggest MGMers on JBF and I never saw any of that from them. Stevek can get a little crazy now and then when it comes to MG, but other than that.
October 3rd, 2014 at 10:43 pm
@Hawk…see I tried to explain it too. I live on these freaking pages. I have no life. I’ve never seen it.
October 4th, 2014 at 2:32 am
“I’ll start off by saying that it’s not really fair to compare Johnson’s (or ANY other QBs) career to Glennon. First of all, the teams they played for and against are different. Second, and most importantly, Brad had the luxury of watching and learning for 2 1/2 years before being ‘thrown’ into the starting job. He had actual mentors who mentored, and coaches who coached.”
so after you invalidate your comparisons, you go ahead and compare? lol
also, your “first of all” is fact, but your “secondly, and most importantly” is opinion.
and i’ll keep my eyes open for some whacky comments, buc1987, but i’m not here as often as i used to be.
October 4th, 2014 at 2:42 am
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October 4th, 2014 at 8:57 am
@ lurker
“Second, and most importantly, Brad had the luxury of watching and learning for 2 1/2 years before being ‘thrown’ into the starting job.”
What part of that is ‘opinion’?
I did NOT invalidate the comparisons. They were NEVER valid to begin with.
That’s my point. If you can’t use one player’s stats to see what another ‘will’ do, then who can say they can see a player’s ‘ceiling’ after less than a season’s worth of games?
Context and comprehension are your friends. Get to know them.
October 4th, 2014 at 11:18 am
i understand things quite well.
you also had this part secondly
” He had actual mentors who mentored, and coaches who coached.”
which is opinion.
also, you don’t need a comparison to see a player’s “ceiling”. you observe and make your own opinion. you think glennon is a great starting qb? i do not. that is my opinion, though mgmer’s will differ.
also, your poor attempt at a put down is just silly. but, i hope you can strut around like a proud peacock now…lmfao
October 4th, 2014 at 10:36 pm
lurker Says:
October 4th, 2014 at 11:18 am
“you also had this part secondly
” He had actual mentors who mentored, and coaches who coached.”
which is opinion.”
I’ll give you half a point on that one. I forgot about Dan Orlovsky (who wouldn’t?). Glennon likely did get some mentoring. However, right here on JBF, there was a quote from Schiano saying “By the time QBs get to the NFL level, they don’t need coaching.” (possibly slightly paraphrased). I will take Schiano at his word that he didn’t feel the need to coach any of the QBs.
also, you don’t need a comparison to see a player’s “ceiling”. you observe and make your own opinion. you think glennon is a great starting qb? i do not. that is my opinion, though mgmer’s will differ.
NEVER said Glennon is a great starting QB. NEVER said that he WILL BE a great starting QB. I have said that *I* believe he has the tools to be a very good QB. And maybe better. Who knows? You can’t tell a player’s ceiling until they’ve gone, at least, a year without improvement. It’s still not certain, but it wouldn’t look hopeful. And I don’t remember any MGMers saying he IS a great starting QB, but I don’t read all of the comments in even post.
also, your poor attempt at a put down is just silly. but, i hope you can strut around like a proud peacock now…lmfao
Although those are two phrases that I used to use in teaching, I should not have used them here, because they were inappropriate for this debate. I’ll not repeat them. As far as strutting… LOL, I can’t very well strut, since no one wins a debate. But I found the image funny also.