“The Bucs Are 0-3 For Two Reasons”
September 26th, 2014
Former Bucs QB Shaun King fingered two failures for the Bucs’ 2014 demise
Never pulling any punches, NBC Sports and Yahoo! Sports NFL analyst Shaun King is clear on why the Tampa Bay Buccaneers are at the bottom of the NFL.
One of only three quarterbacks to lead the Bucs to the NFC Championship game, King joined the Ron and Ian show yesterday to talk all things Bucs on WDAE-AM 620.
“The Bucs are 0-3 for two reasons. The first being Josh McCown has been a failiure so afar. If you think why Lovie brought Josh here was to be a stabilizer, in the locker room and on the field. And you can make a reasonable argument that his mistakes on the field have led to two of the three losses. Those interceptions in “the red zone in the first two games were crucial.
“The second thing is, they haven’t been able to rush the passer. You think about this, we came into coming into the year and we weren’t sure if Michael Johnson, Adrian Clayborn, Gerald McCoy, Clinton McDonald, the starting four guys, we weren’t sure if they could get a pass rush. Well, they’ve been without three of those four.
“That Tampa-2 that Lovie runs, it is a terrible defense if you can’t get pressure with your front four, and that’s what you’re seeing. Quarterbacks around the league will pick that thing apart if they’re not under duress, and they haven’t been.”
Joe couldn’t agree more, and that’s why Joe is now a general in the Mike Glennon Mob. There is no point to continuing with McCown as the starter at any time this season. There’s no shot at the playoffs, and if one emerges magically, it will be because Glennon led the Bucs to a high-scoring win Sunday in Pittsburgh.
September 26th, 2014 at 7:41 am
Amen
September 26th, 2014 at 7:45 am
Wow does he actually get paid to point out the obvious.
September 26th, 2014 at 7:46 am
I still feel Lovie’s coordinators are the problem. When in the red zone, they have two 6’5′ receivers and the Bucs never take a shot to hit one of the dunkaneers. Leslie Frazier can not make adjustments. Hardy Nickerson was a
GREAT player but not all great players excel as coaches. I believe he coached with the Jags and their defense was questionable.
The Bucs could be 2-1 if they had at least ‘average’ play calling.
September 26th, 2014 at 7:49 am
Hmmm shows you what I know! Here I am thinking that the two reasons were bad offense and defense. So we can blame mccown for the dropped first down passes and fumbles, the bad o line play and everything wow that’s brilliant. The defense can’t rush the passer which includes GMC but if they could then poor coverage skills won’t be a factor even though receivers are open so fast rushing the passer is pointless, I thought they looked lost? Damn that’s some hard hitting stuff there Shaun king
September 26th, 2014 at 7:51 am
We are 0-3 for 4 reasons.
Offense, Defense, Special Teams, and Coaching.
September 26th, 2014 at 8:03 am
@buc4lyfe No McCown is being blamed for consistently giving the ball to the wrong team.
September 26th, 2014 at 8:05 am
I think you could add playcalling to the list…but for one of the few times I agree with King.
“Shaun King, one of two Buc Quarterbacks that lost a NFC Championship Game when his defense gave up 11 or fewer points.”
September 26th, 2014 at 8:09 am
Joe- thinking back, do you still think it was lunacy to call that Rams game a must win? Because heading into game 4 after 0-3 no one even cares with everyone now saying suddenly the season is over. Minds change quickly.
September 26th, 2014 at 8:19 am
Any defense that can’t rush the qb is going to be a bad one. Joe when you announce that you are a General in the MGM you come across as someone who believed all along that Glennon was was/is the answer at qb. In my book that’s a poser. but it’s your website, so I thank you for bringing Buc news to someone out of state. In this military man’s eyes you are are private. you can’t jump the chain of command.
September 26th, 2014 at 8:24 am
So if your front 4 can’t get pressure what do you do? Stunts and run fits, and blitz your linebackers and run man coverage on the outside. That at least gets you a top 5 run D, top 2 in turnovers, top 15 pass d, top 5 tfl’s…..maybe Schiano knew what he was doing……..but that’s none of my business.
September 26th, 2014 at 8:25 am
Dewey,
Couldn’t agree more. Joe is basically a general in the “anyone but McCown” mob. He still doesn’t feel Glennon is anything but an adequate backup. Those of us who are true members of the “mob” believe that with experience and proper coaching Glennon can become a very effective starting QB.
September 26th, 2014 at 8:26 am
I guess he must also think that L&L had the team completely ready to go when the season started which is hardly the case.
No mention of any COACHING FAILURES.
Glennon is the lucky one who did not have to try and make something happen with this unprepared team for the first three games.
Defensive line scheme shows no creativity yet everybody blame the players(and backups)
The coaches and players will eventually figure this out together but the coaches better figure their part out first and they have been a little slow about doing it so far
September 26th, 2014 at 8:26 am
Talent and motivation
September 26th, 2014 at 8:26 am
@DallasBuc Uh I think it just illustrates the fact that it was a must win game. No win = looking ahead to the draft. Just makes me sad to type that out…
September 26th, 2014 at 8:27 am
Wow a General? You guys are complete sell outs. Talk about flip flippers..
Joe’s deleted the rest of your lies. First, Joe’s unaware of any payoff for supporting the ousting of McCown in a lost season, in favor of seeing what Glennon can offer. Second, Joe’s focus is always in what’s in the best interest of the team. McCown makes no sense as a starter at 0-3. If that’s flip-flopping, then so be it. –Joe
September 26th, 2014 at 8:29 am
Soon to be 0-4. A quarter of the way to Marcus.
September 26th, 2014 at 8:43 am
For once King says something that’s not complete bulls(p)it
September 26th, 2014 at 8:50 am
I see where your coming from Joe with “there’s no shot at the playoffs” but their still technically still mathematically in it.
September 26th, 2014 at 8:50 am
There is five ingredients to a winning football team, that need to be at least good. Preferably great.
1. Owners
2. G.M.
3. Head coach
4. QB.
5. Pass rush
When looking at this list, are any of these at least good? I see no yes’s in that list. A couple of maybe’s but definitely no yes’s
September 26th, 2014 at 9:04 am
Chef Paul,
The water boys have looked pretty good – does that count?
September 26th, 2014 at 9:14 am
The head coach should and is in front of the GM on the top 5 list. That’s why they get paid the more money. If you look at your list that’s the way it all goes. He who makes the most money has the most to do with winning. So really it’s owners, QB, coach, GM, other players.
September 26th, 2014 at 9:32 am
All I know is that I started Big Ben, LeGarotte Blount, and Pitt’s D in my fantasy league.
September 26th, 2014 at 9:34 am
If you’re gonna keep referring to king as one of three qbs to lead the Bucs to NFC championship game then you have to refer to Raheem as the last Bucs coach to have a winning record.
September 26th, 2014 at 9:36 am
McCown has been a failure so afar. Correction: He’s been a failure close up too.
September 26th, 2014 at 9:43 am
Joe you are hands down the best bucs web site
That is unquestioned, but i won’t read another
Burger king post…..however everything else is great
September 26th, 2014 at 10:19 am
It took 15 years, but King finally said something that makes sense.
September 26th, 2014 at 10:26 am
And there are plenty of reasons why Sean King is a Fat A$$. And he is the main reason we didnt win a super bowl the year we played the Rams in the NFC Championship. His dumb a$$ couldn’t lead the team to a TD having one of the best defenses of all time shut down the “Greatest Show On Turf. “
September 26th, 2014 at 10:30 am
If Shaun King had been the starting QB for these first three games
we would still be 0-3 and they would prob be trying to trade for Rex Grossman
September 26th, 2014 at 10:57 am
Even if the offense had matched Atlanta score for score, they would’ve lost that game due to special teams. Let’s not forget the Rams game and special teams there. We’d be 0-3 in a different way no matter how you slice it.
September 26th, 2014 at 11:21 am
time to try Tebow imo
September 26th, 2014 at 11:40 am
You gotta listen to Shaun king on this. If there’s one thing he’s an expert in, it’s terrible qb play.
September 26th, 2014 at 11:40 am
3) Soft coverage by the secondary
4) Missed tackles
5) Dropped passes
6) Run blocking
7) Special teams
8) Head coach lost in the 70’s
etc.
September 26th, 2014 at 11:45 am
Zam Says:
September 26th, 2014 at 11:21 am
time to try Tebow imo
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No Thanks!
September 26th, 2014 at 12:29 pm
Last season each week it got to a point where I expected our team to lose. This season I’m already at the point where I expect our team to killed each week. Such progress we’re making.
September 26th, 2014 at 12:51 pm
I blame the:
Owners
Coaches
GM
They are awful and we need to be cleaned up from the top down not the bottom up.
September 26th, 2014 at 12:56 pm
I thought that was Jamie Dukes at first. Ha
September 26th, 2014 at 1:05 pm
joe or anyone can you compare for me the schiano staff with lovies in terms of NFL experience? Schianos seems to have had a better plan offensively special teams and defensively whether or not it was successful they still had a plan
September 26th, 2014 at 1:08 pm
The Tampa 2, with zero pass rush, equals disaster!
September 26th, 2014 at 1:12 pm
Dusthty Rhothdes,
I think the difference mainly comes down to coming up with a play scheme that fits your personnel. Schiano did that with the defense. Not so much with the offense. Lovie is trying to cram a square peg in to a round hole. This defense was not built to do a Tampa 2. After the draft next year I’m sure he will get players for the Tampa 2. If he is still here.
September 26th, 2014 at 1:15 pm
Thanks man, in last years defense of the offense I think sullivan had enough common sense to throw on 3rd and 7 and would throw fades to the 6-5 guys we have now….defense was much better last year as was overall team….i mean the seahawks should have been blown out their own building
September 26th, 2014 at 3:40 pm
He nailed it. If you take away the turnovers, the offensive numbers look pretty good. The defense needs a lot of work.
September 26th, 2014 at 9:38 pm
The players aren’t getting it done. McCown didn’t fumble the ball with a chance to win in week 1. McCown didn’t get a concussion week 2 to end the ge while in field goal range. Not that that last one is really anyone’s fault but you gotta look at the whole game. Yes McCown made dumb mistakes but there has never been a qb that went 16 game without interceptions. He overcame those mistakes and led his team to 4th quarter chances to win, where things out Of his hands happened leading to losses. The glennon mob wants to paint McCown so badly and hang every loss on him, but to be honest he gave us the opportunities to win the first 2 games. He didn’t lose those games, the team lost them.
September 27th, 2014 at 10:33 am
Right on, Zam! Lovie should have already signed Tebow so that after four losses in a row he could let Tebow turn around our season like he did with Denver who also had four straight losses before Tebow took them to the playoffs. Glennon will start with a bang this week like he always does and then end with a whimper just like he lost the Seattle game last year and failed to lead one comeback game all year. Wise up Lovie before it is too late! I am disappointed, Joe, that you have joined the Loser’s Mob. The Albatross will show he is no better than a poor backup QB. All the backup QBs we have seen this year are better than Loser Glennon! You should have seen that too before you put on the rose colored glasses, Joe.