Patience, Please
September 18th, 2014
It is gameday but Joe still can’t get it out of his head that the Bucs went complete scared turtle in the red zone and late in the first half with the ball against St. Louis.
When you let teams hang around, you open the door to get beat and that is exactly what the Bucs did Sunday. Somehow, they got the impression the end zone was infected with the Ebola virus.
What really galled Joe was the Bucs let three timeouts rot away like a gallon of old milk when they had the ball late in the first half.
Bucs coach Lovie Smith said after the game he didn’t want to score points there, implying he didn’t trust Bucs quarterback Josh McCown. Joe can sort of understand this. McCown’s careless disregard for ball security isn’t safe for senior citizens to watch. Of course, the logical question is, if you don’t trust the guy, why is he on the field?
Joe has counted McCown making six ghastly stupid mistakes through the first two games, mistakes you might see Saturday morning on a Pop Warner field; seven if you want to nitpick. McCown got away with all but three.
With the Bucs 0-2 and playing the Dixie Chicks tonight, Bucs fans are irate the Bucs are hours from a potential loss that would kick-starting draft season. In September, no less.
Former Bucs defensive tackle Booger McFarland, star of the SEC Network and current on-air personality on WHFS-FM 98.7, studied the Bucs tape of the nutkick loss to the Lambs and believes McCown is getting better. In other words, he is preaching patience.
“After watching the tape, McCown made one bad throw,” Booger said. “That was the one across his body. After that, he played a real conservative, good decision-making game other than one throw. So I can’t criticize him for anything but one bonehead throw. I feel a little better after watching the tape. I am still suspect after that one boneheaded throw in this game – there were two in the first game. I am not 100 percent sold, but I feel better after watching the tape because he played pretty good.”
Joe sure wishes the Bucs coaching staff had the same confidence in McCown that Booger has. Now the question is, can McCown win a shootout with Matty Ice?
If the Bucs can’t stop a journeyman like Derek Anderson or a neverbeen third-string quarterback like Austin Davis, then how the hell are they supposed to stop Matty Ice on his home field?
Remember this: Since Matty Ice came into the NFL in 2008, no quarterback has more fourth quarter or overtime game-winning drives than Matty Ice (25).
September 18th, 2014 at 8:15 am
The Dink & Dunkaneers are going to have to play to win instead of playing not to lose. They have to throw the ball down field and takes shots at the end zone. If they have a conservative game plan and don’t make in game adjustments. It could be ugly.
September 18th, 2014 at 8:19 am
I agree with Booger. Defense held the Rams to field goals but didn’t come through with enough pressure on third downs to cause distressed throws/sacks/incompletions.
McCown drove us down the field for the game winner and we Buc’d it up with how the game ended. Murray makes the field goal and we would all be talking about one boneheaded play that was wiped out by a game winning drive. Shoulda, woulda, coulda and we move on to the game tonight.
I have to say this though, re-watching the game, we called the same toss to Rainey about 7 times (and a few back to back and on third downs).
That is not good play calling. This is the NFL and not Pop Warner. I’m sure that there are PLENTY of plays that are practiced by professionals and ready to execute.
More pressure from the pass rush and better execution on offense (starting with the play calling) is what I see allowing us to win these games.
September 18th, 2014 at 8:20 am
Its nice to know, that if you watch the Bucs game replays enough that you become desensitized to their bad play!
A lot of people are starting to say that if you take away McCheckdowns INT’s that is not that bad! I could not disagree more! handing the ball off and throwing through the air 4.8 yard checkdowns, is not good play.
The question is after the bucs game gets out of hand, what channel will fans switch too???
#PBS_The_Roosevelts
September 18th, 2014 at 8:22 am
Want to see them let it all hang out tonight. If they still lose, at least it would be exciting.
September 18th, 2014 at 8:23 am
If we want to win this game we are going to have to take chances on Offense… Throw a deep ball/jump ball for once? Get creative and have some split back sets with Martin and Rainey on the field at the same time. Hell throw in an extra lineman or line them up as a TE and the TE as a tackle and run some unbalanced line running plays. Reverse or screen play to Herron? I mean SOMETHING creative that can spark this offense and get everyone pumped if it works! Lovie has to take the leash off Arroyo and let him call the damn plays fully if Tedford can’t… Casillas was known as a blitzing LB before coming to Tampa why don’t we get creative with him and line him up all over to see if he can create a spark on defense?
Go Bucs?
September 18th, 2014 at 8:25 am
Matty ice may be able to out shoot brees but he will have no chance against McCown.. Then I woke up..
September 18th, 2014 at 8:25 am
BTW. I thought Glennon was the check down king. Changed your minds?
September 18th, 2014 at 8:26 am
More sugar coating from Lovie’s former Buccaneer fan club. These guys are not credible when talking about the bucs while Lovie Smith is the head coach.
September 18th, 2014 at 8:40 am
Division = Newton, bress, matty, McCown = Coach choose McCown, Let it sink in..
September 18th, 2014 at 8:43 am
@BoJim
Josh proved last year he’s no we’re near that. You are confusing being safe with a check down and play calling. He threw a 30 yard dart to Evans late and some nice throws in the 4th against Carolina. At least give him an opportunity with some play calls. If he wasn’t throwing deep and taking chances then I would agree.
September 18th, 2014 at 8:43 am
My prediction for tonight:
The bucs will win…unless they lose. But even if they lose, they’ll still win, because experience is the best teacher.
That said, expect a lot of no huddle from the Falcons. This is going to be a tough one for our defense. On the bright side, it will be the easiest our offense has had it. I believe the falcons are last in total defense, or thereabouts.
Believe it or not, our offense is average. We need it to be above average though.
September 18th, 2014 at 8:44 am
McCown himself was way too conservative. Really have not taken any deep shots down the field, which is exactly what got him to be the starter here in the first place. That’s what he did all last year with Jeffrey and Marshall, but that was when he had nothing to lose as the backup playing for the injured starter. Now his job is constantly in question because Glennon is a viable replacement. He needs to play more freely but if plays it safe again tonight (and they lose) he has to go to the bench.
September 18th, 2014 at 8:44 am
Just a hunch but I think the Bucs open it up a bit tonight and get a win. I think Lovie has been pinning his hopes on this defense and now realizes that unit is not quite ready for prime time, especially with all of their injuries.
Joe, any updates on Jenkins?
September 18th, 2014 at 8:45 am
And I believe I will call it a day from this website as of now. At least until close to game time. I want to avoid negative vibes.
September 18th, 2014 at 8:45 am
Soggy- were those other QB’s available?
September 18th, 2014 at 8:59 am
Joe
What’s the latest on Tedford calling plays tonight?
September 18th, 2014 at 9:01 am
@JBuc No the good ones are taken but McCown should not have been Crowned there were other avenues, I love the Bucs but this is not church and Zero and whatever it we will before our first win is way past old, Our Qb situation is always a joke. , Patience for a QB is what the news should be
September 18th, 2014 at 9:01 am
Can we put the blame on STOCKEr he lost the game
September 18th, 2014 at 9:06 am
I just want a win and some aggressive play. I want to at least see an attempted pass over 30 yards.
September 18th, 2014 at 9:14 am
Is it really that surprising our offense will suck? What NFL team has M. Arroyo ran before? Or Jeff Tedford for that matter?
September 18th, 2014 at 9:21 am
Joseph Momma, by that logic Chip Kelly would still be in Oregon.
September 18th, 2014 at 9:34 am
We will play the game to not lose and becouse we don’t want to lose then we will not win becouse we do not play to win.
Lovie way
September 18th, 2014 at 9:35 am
Chip Kelly got fired from Oregon? Cause Tedford’s last employmenyt prior to now was when he got fired from Cal. Sort of a major difference.
September 18th, 2014 at 9:35 am
Patience! Patience? The fans have no stinking patience. The patience has worn thin. Close to being a bunch of mental patients, I tell ya.
September 18th, 2014 at 9:41 am
@Buccfan37, Wheres Nurse Rached when you need her. lol.. {One flew over the cockoo nest}
September 18th, 2014 at 9:42 am
66 years old don’t how much more patience I have left
September 18th, 2014 at 9:43 am
Bill Belichick was fired from Cleveland. Most coaches have been fired at one time or another. Usually because ADs and Owners buckle under the pressure of an inpatient and naive fan base.
September 18th, 2014 at 9:59 am
i don’t need any more past buc hero’s peeing on me and telling me its raining.
The bucs Suck
Lovie Sucks
Fire Lovie
September 18th, 2014 at 10:12 am
BuccaneerBonzai Says: “My prediction for tonight:
The bucs will win…unless they lose.”
With that highly intellectual predication, I will go even further and make the bold prediction that the winner tonight will have more points than the loser!
September 18th, 2014 at 10:19 am
I’m singing in the ur-rain
Just singing in the ur-rain
What a glorious feeling
September 18th, 2014 at 10:29 am
Bonzai,
Why are you holding us accountable for the negativity when the Bucs are the main offenders?
September 18th, 2014 at 10:29 am
Yes booger is being smart preaching patience…. Maybe lovie should have did the same instead of amping up fans expectations and now he had to live with it.
But Joe maybe it’s time to face the fact that maybe the rams were letting us hang around not the other way around. If you’re dumb enough to put winning on your defense when you’ve got that many starters hurt then you should lose…… Lovie, putting the game on the backs of the defense didn’t work out to well for Greg schiano either
September 18th, 2014 at 10:46 am
I have less patience for Lovie than I did for Morris or Schiano since he was brought in to win NOW! Again ownership doesn’t bring in a Wisenhunt in Tennessee or Smith in Tampa (or Shanahan in DC…so a retread with past glories does not always equal success) to rebuild. These guys pitch past success as a NFL HC as the reason owners should hire them, and I’m guessing with the talent that is/was on the Bucs Lovie undoubtedly told the Glazers he could have the team sniffing postseason play this year. You can give a guy whose new to NFL head coaching three years to learn the ropes in year one, get players and implement system in year two, and either win or get canned year three. An experienced “retread” should be able to win in a year or two tops…if not then see ya’…see Mike Shanahan
September 18th, 2014 at 11:21 am
Schiano and Sully hung 41 points on Atlanta last season.
September 18th, 2014 at 11:39 am
booger is an apologist for the bucs and a contrarian to whatever the host says….patience this booger and get back to being over rated
September 18th, 2014 at 11:55 am
All I have to say is if they lose this game…I’ll message Kiper on twitter and start asking what QB will the Bucs take with their top 5 pick. If they win then we put together a streak. But 3-0 and Glennon is in after the bye. McCown can play. Take away the turnovers and he’s very good. But that’s the biggest part you’re taking away that’s the problem
September 18th, 2014 at 8:59 pm
I’m gonna go ahead and start it. Mariota or Hundley. Men, if you think Glennon will cure this you’re crazy. Need a top 10 QB as long as lovie is deciding the scheme. Bet on it. I’ll take Schiano alllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll fucking day
September 18th, 2014 at 9:00 pm
Atleast Schiano made teams fear the d. They hit hard. Lovie has brought nothing to the table
September 18th, 2014 at 9:50 pm
they looked better in 1975. how is it possible that a nfl team can not do anything right. they should play glennon ! last year I thought the team played as a much more cohesive unit with him in there. as a fan since day one it is hard to explain how dissapointed I and others are. we keep getting promised things are getting better, obviously that s not true.