Paging Mark Barron
September 7th, 2014
Mark Barron plays the run well but as far as defending tight ends, he leaves something to be desired.
Now Joe may be many things, but he’s not stupid enough to call Bucs safety Mark Barron a bad player. Hardly.
However, Barron is not an elite player. And when a guy is drafted seventh overall in the draft, he should be an impact player at his position. Barron is not an impact player.
Against the run, Barron is pretty solid. This just in: the NFL is a passing league.
Against the pass, well, Joe’s not sure how good Barron is defending the pass because he rarely sees Barron defend a pass.
When Barron was selected by then-Bucs rock star general manager Mark Dominik, it was said the reason Dominik coveted Barron was his pass coverage abilities and he deemed Barron the elixir to stop Saints tight end Jimmy Graham.
Forgive Joe. He just did a spittake all over his keyboard.
The reason why Joe doesn’t believe Barron is elite was wrapped up very nicely today in the debacle loss to the Stinking Panthers at the Stadium on Dale Mabry Highway.
The Stinking Panthers have this tight end you may have heard of before. Some guy named Greg Olsen? The guy simply ravaged the Bucs today with eight catches and 11 targets. He had a touchdown and averaged 10.4 yards a catch — 10 yards! He would have had another touchdown when slug quarterback Derek Anderson overthrew Olson, who was wide-freaking-open down the middle (again) for what would have been an easy six.
If the Bucs safeties can’t stop Olson, who is hardly chopped liver, Joe asks how in the world they are supposed to slow Jimmy Graham down?
Mark Barron, it’s high time you live up to your draft status and learn how to at least slow down a tight end once in a while, ha?
Pretty please?
September 7th, 2014 at 9:44 pm
Don’t worry…we have McCown
September 7th, 2014 at 9:44 pm
Joe, you could write this same exact article about Adrian slowborn! Funny how some players get a pass around here.
September 7th, 2014 at 9:45 pm
I’ve been saying it since he was drafted: if Mark Barron isn’t Ronnie Lott, then it was a wasted pick and he’s a bust. That’s why you waste a 7th overall on a safety.
he’s not Ronnie Lott. He ‘s not. PERIOD. He’s a BUST. one of the biggest of “rockstar’s” tenure.
Cut your losses and start looking for his replacement… something I’ve been saying since he was drafted.
September 7th, 2014 at 9:45 pm
No Cry Zone
September 7th, 2014 at 9:45 pm
Clayborn doesn’t guard tight ends.
September 7th, 2014 at 9:46 pm
Verner was the only player in our secondary who looked decent today.
I know the defense takes time to gel, learn a new system, but today was bad.
How many years has it been since we’ve had a pass rush from the front 4? Seriously, I can’t remember…
September 7th, 2014 at 9:50 pm
Luke Kuechly won the game for them, with his forced fumble on Rainey at the end.
Yet, Tampa passed on him, to draft Barron, an average NFL Safety.
September 7th, 2014 at 9:50 pm
@joe
Maybe he should try guarding TE’s because he does not rush the passer either!!!
September 7th, 2014 at 9:52 pm
Goldson is worse than Barron – looked lost out there.
September 7th, 2014 at 9:54 pm
Anybody else get the feeling today that Lovie A$$hole is following in the same paths as D**ckhead Dungy when it comes to conservative, horrible offense?!!!!!!!! So frustrated by this sh!tfest today!!!!!!
September 7th, 2014 at 9:55 pm
Kuechly is over rated- he is like the Barrett Ruud of the panthers- would get all this tackles after his ass got ran over- I’ll take David and maybe foster over him any day
September 7th, 2014 at 9:57 pm
Where was the offense the entire first half?!!!! What a disgrace!!! We waited all this time for this ?!!
September 7th, 2014 at 9:59 pm
Say what you will about the defense. They didn’t play great but they held the Panthers to 17 points (I’m not putting the late field goal on them) and they got the big stops at the end when they were needed.
The QB lost this game plain and simple. He had open receivers and held the ball like a rookie and made mistakes that even a rookie knows not to make.
I hope he gets better but today he was pathetic.
September 7th, 2014 at 10:04 pm
I dont even know anymore. A qb and an oline is the foundation of añ offense then you add playmakers. Our o is like one giant bandaid. As for our d we need a pass rush. Theres no excuse to let that statue carve us up and have all day to scan the field.
September 7th, 2014 at 10:08 pm
Is Mark Dominick still the Bucs’ fearless GM? Did Joe get a peek in Lovie’s defensive gameplan for Greg Olsen, and Mark Barron was pegged as the man to stop him? Okay, then.
I will give it to you that Lovie needs a strategy to stop the tight ends which are now rampant and a part of any defensive strategy, but Goldson, Lavonte, Barron, our slot CB, whoever, was responsible for Olsen single handedly spanking the Bucs defense.
But let’s not point fingers for an overall pitiful, embarassing, puke-inducing performance from the Bucs tonight. They were all bad, regardless of draft status.
September 7th, 2014 at 10:09 pm
It Looked like just about everyone made mistakes when it counted, If we can clean that up just maybe… But I watched our all division rivals today and looks like we will have our hands full, we better get better and fast.. Oh Ya..
September 7th, 2014 at 10:11 pm
Took this guy over Luke too cover graham and gets sh*ted on by Olson. Thanks dom you sure rock!
September 7th, 2014 at 10:11 pm
So far, Barron has been a dissapointment, i try to get his back and support but im done with him, not just invisible on the field but his attitude is so lame, he looks like he doesnt care whats happening…
maybe if we have taken kuechly over barron we didnt have David (dont think they take 2 LBs) but at this point Kuechly is winning games, neither barron or david are doing it…
September 7th, 2014 at 10:35 pm
I don’t think it was as much as him not being able to cover him as him being fooled repeatedly by play action.
Our defensive ends were lining up wide enough I thought they should’ve jammed him at the line instead of letting him get a free release. It’s not like they were remotely close to the quarterback.
September 7th, 2014 at 10:41 pm
Graham looked like shit in the early game. Guess it’s a good thing he got payed like a tight end and not a wideout.
September 7th, 2014 at 10:56 pm
Lol Clayborn doesn’t cover toght ends…he covers Darren Sproles!!
September 7th, 2014 at 11:02 pm
Agree 100%. Isn’t a Safety expected to cover speed receivers? A TE should make them lick their chops…. This team is bad for a reason: bad drafting and overpaid/underperfoming FA pickups
September 7th, 2014 at 11:19 pm
When it counts much of the team is overhyped!
September 8th, 2014 at 12:15 am
Joe Says:
September 7th, 2014 at 9:45 pm
Joe, you could write this same exact article about Adrian slowborn!
Clayborn doesn’t guard tight ends.
Yup just one of the fastest RB
September 8th, 2014 at 12:18 am
Lovieball is about creating defensive turnarounds and pressuring qb’s we failed at both if we could have done that it could has changed the outcome
September 8th, 2014 at 12:43 am
trade Barron for a 2nr round pick, trade glennon for a 3rd round pick, trade the hawk for a 3rd round pick, trade A.C. for whatever, see if you can get anything for bowers and trade casillias or put him on special teams. Start Lansannah, look for rookies to draft for next year and pay McCoy. N.O. window is closed as-well-as ATL. The panthers are good but not 49er or seahawk good and if this Buc team can hold them to 17 points w/ a backup qb, weak oline, terrible safties and horrible d-ends. Then the Bucs have nothing to worry about, just draft well and I wouldn’t mind them having a bad record this year.
September 8th, 2014 at 2:06 am
Hard to believe Mark Dominik was being praised around here for so long.
For what? Taking Barron over Keuchly? Benn over Golden Tate? Clayborn over Cameron Jordan? Josh Freeman over anyone? Trading a first round pick for the right to pay Revis 16 million for a year? Every free agent other than Vincent Jackson being a bust? Greg Schiano? A 24-52 record? Someone needs to dub a ‘We didn’t start the(dumpster) fire” Mark Dominik edition.
September 8th, 2014 at 3:19 am
The worst part is- Barron is Sooo bad at Coverage, they try to hide home in the box, short coverage on TEs only.
This forces out TALENTED Strong Safety- Goldson, to play Free Safety.
Goldson is a good Free safety- but a GREAT strong safety
Barron sucks so badly, it actually hurts us at two positions
I hoped Lovie would cut loses this off season. Gonna have to this coming offseason. We can’t keep covering for lousy players- just because we wasted draft picks on them
September 8th, 2014 at 3:44 am
Doms finest moment drafting him over Luke k and his reason was….. He thought we had a backer in mason foster. Imagine him and 54 together wow
September 8th, 2014 at 6:12 am
Convert him to LB!!
He is wayyyyyyyto slow to play SS.
I wanted Ried. We signed goldson to a huge contract, while San Fran drafted Reid. Reid is now a pro bowler. And goldson will be lucky to get signed mext year.
Good job Dom!
I wanted Sheldon Richardson to play next to McCoy.
Instead we used a top 15 pick to borrow Revis for one year.
Thanks Dom!
We coukd have waited one more for Revis! Why trade for him???
He wouldve been a free agent anyway the next year!
Dom has ruined our team. We need 3 more years to recover from Doms terrible decisions!
September 8th, 2014 at 6:13 am
Dom drafted two gimpy DEs.
Bowers and Clayborne. They both suck.
Thanks Dom!
September 8th, 2014 at 8:20 am
This is why we should have never gotten Goldson. Had we been patient, we could have waited and signed Jarius Byrd who complements Barron nicely. We basically run out two safeties that excel against the run but are terrible in coverage. Then we ask why TEs seem to kill us. Of course they do, our safeties are garbage.
September 8th, 2014 at 9:42 am
“Joe Says:
September 7th, 2014 at 9:45 pm
Joe, you could write this same exact article about Adrian slowborn!
Clayborn doesn’t guard tight ends.”
He did last year… IIRC or maybe that was a RB…LOL
September 8th, 2014 at 1:04 pm
i still have hope the barron will be a plus player, but this was a dinosaur move in the draft by schiano. what a bitter pill to swallow that yesterday’s game was dominated by the guy who fell into our lap 3 years ago and we passed on. and no, i do not buy that drafting kuechly would have lavonte david less desirable to the bucs later in the draft