Marcus Arroyo Doesn’t Look At Stats
September 17th, 2014
When the Lovie Smith regime took over One Buc Palace, it made no secret of its love for all things geekery, that is, analytics.
You know, like if the sun in shining at just the right 48-degree angle, Doug Martin has five carries for 18 yards, but when the sun is directly overhead, his yards-per-carry plummets to 1.8 yards a touch.
Well, most of the new regime is into stats. That club doesn’t include offensive coordinator shot-caller Marcus Arroyo. When asked yesterday if he builds a gameplan around an opposing defense’s stats, Arroyo flatly said, in so many words, no.
“Nope, we don’t look at that,” Arroyo said. “We look at how we can get better. We look at ourselves to see what can we do to be a better Tampa Bay Buccaneers team, to Tampa Bay, to Coach Smith and everyone involved in putting this things together. We have to do things better on our end and then the score will take care of itself and who we’re playing is secondary to what we’re looking at right now. It’s too early to get that far ahead of ourselves, individually I know that.”
Joe’s not a huge stats guy (in case you didn’t know) because too many people are slaves to stats. Yet, Joe must be reasonable. Defensive stats can give you an idea where a defense is vulnerable or just plain soft.
Joe gets what Arroyo is saying, but Joe has to think Arroyo is being a bit coy here. Why wouldn’t someone look at statistical tendencies? For example, if teams are allowing seven or eight yards on runs outside right tackle, why wouldn’t a team verify that on film and then put in a few plays to take advantage?
Again, Joe understands Arroyo’s comment; if the Bucs take care of their own house, what a defense does shouldn’t matter. But looking for soft or vulnerable areas of a defense with stats and film seems common sense.
September 17th, 2014 at 10:03 am
Doesn’t look at stats. Doe he look at the play book?
September 17th, 2014 at 10:04 am
‘Old School’ Lovie needs to go back to the old days on offense. When you have a coordinator that does not have a clue, let the QB with over ten years of exposure to the NFL, call his own plays. Things can’t get much worse!
September 17th, 2014 at 10:06 am
After reading his quotes from yesterday, this guy comes off as a dope!
September 17th, 2014 at 10:08 am
I want him to focus on the number “10” this week. If the bucs have the ball and he is calling plays and the difference between the bucs score and the falcons isn’t at least 10, then he should call only plays that are likely to result in a drive that makes that 10 number.
September 17th, 2014 at 10:15 am
Amazing. You would think between all the coaches and assistants, there would be enough manpower to focus on not sucking as a team as well as exploiting what the other team does poorly. What do these guys do all damn day?
September 17th, 2014 at 10:20 am
Hmmm…
What was the exact question he was ask???
His following statement says YES
” who we’re playing is secondary to what we’re looking at right now.”
This is what I get from his statement:
1. You look at your own errors to rectify right now
2. then you look at the opposing team
3. finally you create a game plan…
In between the above I’m sure he eats, go to the bathroom and sleeps some… although he doesn’t mention it. But maybe I’m wrong only Mr. Arroyo knows.
September 17th, 2014 at 10:21 am
I like his soul patch.
September 17th, 2014 at 10:22 am
Another offensive coach who doesn’t think to attack a teams weakness and not run into the opponents strength. Just great… I’m going to shove this high powered offense down your throat. Guess he and Tedford think that when we figure out “how to get better” we will score points like the Broncos.
September 17th, 2014 at 10:25 am
RealityCheck… they probably think of their future career opportunities when the Bucs reach the Super Bowl.
September 17th, 2014 at 10:47 am
If you are not looking at stats you are wrong. Hell, even baseball defenses look at stats to see where to play on the field at any given moment.
September 17th, 2014 at 10:49 am
I don’t care about stats too much either. I do care about garbage play calling though. I also care about 1st down interceptions thrown by our QB and the middle of the field being shredded by an opposing 3rd string QB.
September 17th, 2014 at 10:57 am
damn, didn’t know he was that young!
dude, just call the plays like you would on madden. if you suck on that you should not be an OC.
September 17th, 2014 at 10:58 am
Why the hell are some of you giving Arroyo a hard time? This guy did NOT ask to be thrown into this role. He’s not our OC. He’s filling in for someone else on an emergency basis and doing the best he can. He’s a QB coach and offensive assistant. Repeat, HE IS NOT OUR F-CKING OC. So get over it already. There’s no way Tedford could’ve predicted that he’d suddenly have symptoms of heart disease that need immediate, emergency attention. That’s life. There’s no team in the NFL that has two OC’s of equal capability on their staff. Again, get the f-ck over it and wash the sand out of your damn vag’s already.
September 17th, 2014 at 11:26 am
Point is, this is our offense. Knucklehead. I don’t think the magic of teford’s nfl play calling history is going to help. So, FLboy that’s why I’m disappointed. I don’t care whose calling it, it’s the philosophy behind it that’s broke.
September 17th, 2014 at 11:32 am
“not a huge stats guy (in case you didn’t know) because too many people are slaves to stats.” Is usually code for “math/deciphering #’s is hard” and I like cliché intangibles to explain stuff.
No one who uses stats effectively is a “slave to them”; they use them as a starting point to make quantifiable & verifiable observations. Sometimes there isn’t enough data to make a sound conclusion or we don’t have a good way of measuring a particular hypothesis. This doesn’t mean we should settle for non-sense like “fire in the belly” or hyperbole to explain things. The sooner we get the caveman perspective “Stats are for losers” mentality out of sports & in particular the Bucs organization, the sooner we’ll have a better team/sport.
September 17th, 2014 at 11:41 am
I warned from the start that we should not expect greatness from this guy. The fact that he has been calling plays is likely what cost us our games, outside of the obvious.
September 17th, 2014 at 11:44 am
Stop saying smart things Matthew. We just need to pound the rock, play tough, and have more heart than the other team. WE’VE GOT TO WANT IT MORE.
September 17th, 2014 at 11:50 am
When Tedford is calling plays full time, and when McCown stops playing sand lot football, we will see some wins come from this team. I have no doubt about that. Those are the two factors affecting this team the most right now, besides injuries. It has nothing to do with the “system”. Nothing whatsoever.
September 17th, 2014 at 12:03 pm
Flboy
Glad you have already cleaned the sand out of your vag and are over it. It takes some time for others.
September 17th, 2014 at 12:14 pm
What exactly does he look at?
September 17th, 2014 at 2:51 pm
You know why he doesn’t look at stats because “stats are for losers” -Raheem
September 17th, 2014 at 3:04 pm
How in gods name does some of these guys find their way on nfl coaching staffs?? I don’t think the saints need their paperbags anymore because the saints franchise is on the upward climb. So I’m going to borrow some paper bags from them to cover my face on Sunday’s because we’re becoming a joke. They are gaining ground on some of Schiano’s legendary press conference quotes in just 2 weeks