“It’s Like It Went From Pluto To Mars”
September 2nd, 2014
Ronde Barber already has written children’s books, and Joe can’t wait until Barber gets around to penning a look at the four Tampa Bay head coaches he served under.
That’s going to be chock full of gems.
In a chat with the Charlotte Observer about Sundays’ Bucs-Panthers game, one Barber will call for FOX, the Bucs icon talked about the change at One Buc Palace.
“It’s like it went from Pluto to Mars, it was so far out in right field before,” Barber said. “Lovie has brought some calm and a different demeanor. It doesn’t even seem like the same building.”
Yes, among other things, Greg Schiano scrambled the brains of Da’Quan Bowers, regulated meal temperature and room temperature, turned Josh Freeman into a mental patient, demanded his defensive linemen dance like cheerleaders on third downs, insisted every player carry two water bottles, had the worst second-half offense known to man, was (and is) convinced Mike Glennon is star material, refused to continue a thriving hurry-up offense against San Francisco because he didn’t practice it enough, and was certain it was his predecessor who ran a “laughingstock” program.
Yes, Ronde, the Bucs have landed on a new planet.
September 2nd, 2014 at 2:07 pm
Turned Freeman in to a mental patient? Please don’t blame Dominik’s mistakes on Schiano just because he’s an easy target. He made a lot of mistakes, but trying to get rid of J Free was the best thing he ever did as the Bucs coach
September 2nd, 2014 at 2:08 pm
And his only innovative move was diving at the legs of the opposition during the victory formation, and getting chewed out by Coughlin.
September 2nd, 2014 at 2:18 pm
More Schiano seal-clubbing! ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!
Remember, don’t cuss around Lovie. It’s not allowed. You know, a grown man treating grown men with respect.
September 2nd, 2014 at 2:23 pm
OK…enough of the regime chage bull crap…same old crap this team and every other when a losing coach goes out and ALL the remaining players sing the same SUCK UP SONG !….6:55 PM Sunday will tell the tale !
September 2nd, 2014 at 2:26 pm
“It’s like it went from Pluto to Mars”……..when the F%C# are we going to come back to Earth then?
September 2nd, 2014 at 2:26 pm
Please stop with the Schanio is the Boogie man or a bad coach BS.
He was good enough coach to Drive Freeman out of here.
Please remember he took over for Radio, who got a double promotion within a month from DC to HC who is now a defensive backs coach.
Players using the excuse that their heads were scrambled blah blah because of a coach need to be fired.
Some coaches are buddies with the players aka Raheem Morris other coaches require players to play to the best of their ability.
September 2nd, 2014 at 2:31 pm
WWGS
What would Greg Schanio do?
Would he get rid of Michael Williams for throwing a party at his own home? No
Would he Not Bring in Incognito for a work out because he said a naughty Word? No
Would he let go of our entire offensive line without getting anything in return? No
Would he declare a starting QB 6 months before the season starts or think it would be a good idea to have players actually compete? No
So far I am not impressed with Lovie Smith.
Just replace Toes on the Line with No Swearing.
September 2nd, 2014 at 2:34 pm
It’s fun to explore the solar system in the preseason. Nobody will care about Mars or Pluto or Greg Schiano when the W and L’s start getting posted. Then it’s put up or shut up time.
Greg Schiano is about five days away from becoming a distant memory.
Of course if the Bucs play very poorly in the first half of the season then the Schiano moniker may return to insult Lovie as in…dang that’s as bad as Schiano.
In my own very, very prejudiced opinion I think the Bucs will experience success. And winning takes care of EVERYTHING!
September 2nd, 2014 at 2:34 pm
Blaming Freeman’s implosion on Schiano? Scrambling the brains of D’Quan? Both assertions have a longer reach than Will Gholston.
The guy had his faults yes, but cleaning up the pig pen that Rah left here was no dream job.
September 2nd, 2014 at 2:49 pm
Schanio’s Record last year was 4-12.
How many wins does Lovie Smith have to get in order to declare him an upgrade over Schanio?
I say Lovie Smith has to finish 8-8 or else his first season was a bust with the bucs.
If he doesn’t go 8-8 start making your excuses now:
It was Schanio’s mess he was cleaning up.
He needed to get his guys in.
It takes 3 years to turn a franchise around.
Getting 6 Wins after Schanio is like going to the playoffs with any other team.
We have too many unexpected injuries to key players.
Our offensive Coordinator went down at the start of the season and no one has ever called offense during a game.
I have them going 6-10 with a QB change.
September 2nd, 2014 at 2:54 pm
There Will Be No Honeymoon !
September 2nd, 2014 at 2:57 pm
We basically got Schiano because no body better wanted the job..
September 2nd, 2014 at 2:57 pm
It’s so funny when the Schiano Men get their feelings hurt around here.
September 2nd, 2014 at 3:00 pm
Had to stick a Glennon reference in there?
Such haters, bad form.
I’m sure you and the Big Douche… err Dog will be able to bash Glennon somehow today. Tune in at 5!!!
Go Bucs!
September 2nd, 2014 at 3:07 pm
If McCown stays healthy 9-7 is possible. If ‘cement shoes’ starts more than six games 5-7 at best.
September 2nd, 2014 at 3:08 pm
Last time I checked, Shiano was SO LAST YEAR.
Ummm, can we please pay attention to THIS YEAR and Sunday..
Shiano who?
September 2nd, 2014 at 3:12 pm
@ jo mama
If he doesn’t go 8-8 start making your excuses now:
Certainly agree with the thrust of your post. I think you posted an excellent question. Just what record do we think Lovie needs to consider him an improvement over Schiano?
I also agree with your 8-8…at minimum.
But your excuses? Let’s review.
It was Schanio’s mess he was cleaning up.
Agree with you there. That doesn’t pass muster. Most of your others make sense as well. I might question two though.
It takes 3 years to turn a franchise around.
That’s probably true when you consider what the Bucs have been through, a long, long playoff drought. L&L have already said however they do not accept that excuse themselves.
We have too many unexpected injuries to key players.
That could be valid depending on the number and who is injured. Just one injury can wreak havoc. Does anybody like the Saints chances if Brees goes down for the year in an early game. They have the inferior McCown!
What about if we took two injuries…GMC and Levonte…would that effect the team?
Not to nitpick jo because I basically agree with you. Thought 6 wins was low however. I absolutely EXPECT at least 8 wins and hope for 10.
September 2nd, 2014 at 3:24 pm
The owners hired Rah – That didnt work out
The owners hired – Schianno – That didn’t work out
The owners hired Lovie – Will that work out??
Seems the owners are trying hard to fix THEIR problem.
They made the original mistakes
Rah and Schianno they corrected pretty fast.
I get the feeling Lovie better not take his time
Seems like the owners are intent on putting a winning team together
and getting the job done – NOW
Short rope on L & L
September 2nd, 2014 at 3:28 pm
Joe,
Once again, you (Lee I suspect), is all about taking a big dump on Schiano.
The man is a martyr in my book. Schiano’s eye for talent can not be denied. Schiano saw right through Freeman.
Bowers and Freeman lack the competitive edge necessary to become a great player. I hope Da’Quan proves me wrong.
There is something seriously wrong if you continue to not think Dominick was a GM failure. Dominick drafted Freeman, among numerous other busts before Schiano got to town.
Is Schiano a good game planner, nice guy, or push-over? No. Can he identify talent? Yes.
Remember when you, Joe, roasted Schiano for passing on Mo Claibourne, and trading back for Barron. Granted Keuchly should have been the pick, but still. To deny Schiano had an eye for talent is highway robbery.
“Worst Bucs in the last 10 years”
1. Mark Dominick
2. Josh Freeman
Period.
Ps. Ask the Big Dawggg today: Why is Freeman NOT in the league, AND Ryan Nassib could beat him in New York. While your at it, ask why Mark Sanchez (Butt Fumbleruski) is in the league, yet Freeman is not.
Why did Chip Kelley TURN DOWN the Bucs? Bc of Dominick and Freeman, the two worst Buccaneers in the last ten years.
Love the Joes’ site, energy and commitment to the Bucs. Hate, hate, hate the truth not being shared. Dominick and Freeman royally stunk and you give them a pass.
September 2nd, 2014 at 3:35 pm
If Lovie wins the super bowl this year, will people say he did it with Schanio’s team?
The difference isn’t Schanio vs. Lovie. The difference is the quality coaching staff and experience Lovie brought in with him. Lovie has been building relationships in the league for years. Schanio was an unexpected hire out of college that no quality coach was going to risk hitching there career too.
Mr. Dominick on the other hand, his name might show up near Matt Millen’s on the list of greatest GM’s. His drafts sucked till Schanio came in. I liked it when Chris Landry would go on Wdae and would explain how Schanio had to endure the typical GM’s football related decisions because the Mr. Dominick wasn’t very good at it. I could almost visualize the radio host squirming in his seat.
Please stop implying that if Josh McCwon stays health then ……
Josh has never ever ever played more than 14 games in a season (that 2004 season was the only season he played more than 8).
Josh was the open day starting QB for 3 different teams prior to the Bucs.
Cardinals
Raiders
Dolphins
September 2nd, 2014 at 3:35 pm
Hahha it’s so funny when the few schiano but huggers come out and defend their boy Sgt.toes on the line like he was some awesome coach. Hahahhahahahhah fools!
He was one if not the worst coach in the league wise not just personality wise but scheme wise worst in the league last year.
I swear the ppl that stick up for him that still post here are probably his wife and his immediate family members that’s the only way anyone can stick up for that garbage that was the schiano regime.
September 2nd, 2014 at 3:37 pm
The New Improved Bucs!! Gotta Lovie it. A New Beginning!! Ships Ahoy!! Aargh!! All Aboard!! Go Bucs!!
September 2nd, 2014 at 3:41 pm
Knuchnbuc
You didn’t have to rip down all of your Josh Freeman Michal Jackson posters when he was cut.
Give it a few years those wounds will heal…
September 2nd, 2014 at 3:43 pm
I’m impressed with the new regime the total roster overhaul and the wheeling and dealing with Licht not bad IMO
September 2nd, 2014 at 3:44 pm
knuckleheadedbuc,
Schiano has a bad scheme and personality, but he could identify talent. Lovie kept more Schiano Men then he let go, just saying.
September 2nd, 2014 at 3:53 pm
The decision to fire Gruden and Allen (late) and then replace them with woefully under qualified candidates in Raheem and Mark Dominik (with no other candidates even considered) set the franchise back a decade. True story. The Glazer boys were too busy playing soccer to care.
That led to the Schiano toes-on-the-line debacle and Freeman lobotomy.
Now, finally, L&L will bring respectability back to the Bucs.
September 2nd, 2014 at 4:01 pm
It’s a pirates life Joe. Where’s them thar Bucs season picks?
September 2nd, 2014 at 4:02 pm
NEW DEPTH CHART OUT:
PUNT SHOCKER: RAINEY
CB: VERNER AND JENKINS
RG: omenah
September 2nd, 2014 at 4:11 pm
“Schiano has a bad scheme and personality, but he could identify talent.”
IF that was his good side, it was his only one. He & the erstwhile Rock Star mad their Hits and their Misses, too. In NO other aspect was he NFL Head Coach Material. Yeah, he could discipline with the best of them, too bad he couldn’t temper it with enough sense to get the team to accept it. They quit on him, like they quit on Raheem, like they quit on Gruden. They all lost the respect of the team, in their own manner. I’m glad their all gone, and good riddance. I’ll say the same for Lovie, if they quit on him..just don’t see it happening.
September 2nd, 2014 at 4:16 pm
fritz50,
Two coaches had the players “quit” on them. I ask you, who assembled the pack of quitters?
Answer: Mark Dominick #WorstBuccaneerInTheLastTenYears
September 2nd, 2014 at 4:23 pm
Greg Schiano was the worst Coach Hiring, to my knowledge- in league history.
He was barely competitive at Tiny little Rutgers.
He was an Ass there.
He had no clue-NONE- here. He was the laughing stock of the league- from players to owners. Everyone was laughing at the lil hitler!
Anyone, who believes Schiano accomplished anything here, doesn’t know anything about Football.
His only accomplishment, was being a new all time low in shameful Buc History.
And there is plenty of that already
September 2nd, 2014 at 4:54 pm
lightningbuc – you are always pointing out that Lovie does not appreciate cussing. maybe you need to go back to third grade and work on your vocabulary. having to curse to make a point is a sure sign of ignorance.
Stop beating up Schiano and Dominik they have done their damage and our now gone, thankfully. Instead, we all should focus on the positive changes and the bright future our beloved team has.
Glennon Mob stop sticking up for your boy. He clearly regressed. Career backup at best. You guys have made more excuses for the immobile one than Obama has not having a strategy to protect our great country.
Sign SAINT Ritchie NOW!
September 2nd, 2014 at 5:20 pm
Dang, 5 days before opening kickoff, we are talking about the past and making excuses for the future. lovie doesn’t have to win 8 games this year. he has to show that he has game time coaching moxie, the defense has to show they are on the way to being a top 10 unit year in and year out. And the offense need to show that the can compete and they are jelling with the rookies ready to contribute. It might not all happen in the next 16 games, but as long as progress and not regress is shown. i can live with that. Lovie has a clean slate as far a I am concerned.
September 2nd, 2014 at 5:21 pm
Some of the posters in here are going to be very, very quiet in about 5 days. All the BS from half of you is going to come to an end. The worst part will be the remaining half who won’t shut up about being right. Ugh. A pirate’s life is hard.
September 2nd, 2014 at 5:32 pm
That’s pretty funny Louis. And also true!
September 2nd, 2014 at 5:43 pm
Lol mathius and Steve k mad….
Funny only thing they say schiano coul do at an acceptable rate was find talent. Last I checked that wasn’t the only thing in the job description of head coach….hmm weird schiano was head coach right not head scout. Another thing I knew freeboy was going to suck last year the other only good thing schiano did right In his tenure. Maybe he should have been coy in y’all opinions not mine.
He sucked at everything else and for all the hate raheem got he had a job the year he got fired. What’s schiano doing? O yea he’s trying to follow behind bellichick still to get a whiff of his farts to see what winning smells like. Lol
September 2nd, 2014 at 6:26 pm
Amen Jo Mama – this anti schiano crap is boring now. Very boring. Talk about Tebow, more exciting.
September 2nd, 2014 at 6:31 pm
Well I can say I am not Schiano’s wife or immediate family, and I’m glad to see there are a few of us that are sane enough to see that Schiano was not the pariah that some of you want to portray. Some of the best HC’s didn’t do well their first go round in the NFL, so I guess time will tell. Let’s see how Lovie does before jumping on the bandwagon. If he has two losing seasons this year and next with this team then he needs to go as well.
September 2nd, 2014 at 7:27 pm
It would be interesting to hear a players perspective such as Ronde’s. He played a long time and had four head coaches, all very different from each other. Too bad he was saddled with subpar coaches at the end of his career. He handled it like a pro though.
September 2nd, 2014 at 8:06 pm
Hey Rhonde, it isn’t called “Pluto” anymore – they renamed it as a dwarf star.
Hey maybe that’s where “Joe” got the term rock “star” for Dominik?
September 2nd, 2014 at 8:54 pm
I thought that was the children’s book?
September 2nd, 2014 at 8:59 pm
Thats not Schiano’s family. Its Saints, Falcons, and Panthers fans that have infiltrated this here website and are spreading some good old fashioned propaganda, trying to tear the real Bucs fans apart. Seriously though…. everyone is right imo. The entire team from Freeman to the Rock Star and from Rha, to Schiano were rotten. It was a disfunctional family that just couldnt play together. Im glad they are all gone. Adios! And thank you L & L for giving this team something back that these fans and this city really needed…. credibility. They are already winning and havent played a game yet.
September 2nd, 2014 at 9:03 pm
Louis Friend- lol!
Ain’t that the truth! Tough crowd here!
When you least expect it, you get a broadside from some cruel, gloating bastard!!
Yoe hoe!!
September 2nd, 2014 at 9:49 pm
Pluto might be where Raheem was located. Didnt he look a bit like a bulldog?
September 2nd, 2014 at 11:02 pm
I see over exaggeration hasn’t gone to waste around here, damn. Schiano was just a poor fit at the NFL level. Make that a very poor fit. It might take time for him to adjust to the NFL way of life, or he may never be able to adjust and will have to go back to college ball, We’ll see. The best thing he did as NFL coach was signing Eric Legrand, helping him to fulfill his dream of becoming a professional football player.
September 2nd, 2014 at 11:43 pm
Schiano started with his toes on the line, and ended with his head on the line!
September 3rd, 2014 at 1:45 am
For someone who likes Gleenon you sure know how to exhibit hatred toward him! What will you and some other haters do when the Cannon takes over by game 4?
September 3rd, 2014 at 7:29 am
Some thought Glennon was a potential super star…some thought Dom was a rock star….go figure.
September 3rd, 2014 at 8:53 am
Chirp.
September 3rd, 2014 at 9:35 am
Capt. Tim,
Bobby Petrino was a worse hire than Schiano.