What Are 49ers Up To With Boone Talk?
August 12th, 2014
Are the Bucs really after 49ers G Alex Boone, or are the 49ers trying to start a bidding war?
So what are we to make of the news Ian Rapoport of NFL.com broke last night, that the Bucs are sniffing the oranges in the basket known as holdout guard Alex Boone? In Joe’s eyes, it’s NFL poker playing at its finest.
Yes, the Bucs — as of August’s second week — have an issue with their guards. This is nothing new, not remotely a surprise to Bucs general manager Jason Licht and coach Lovie Smith.
This dates back to when the duo took their respective jobs. The original problem was whether guard Carl Nicks could go or not, with a bad toe and after a prolonged bout of the MRSA. At the time, no one had a clue if Nicks could play. It turned out he couldn’t. Weeks before training camp, Joe learned from a Bucs suit that Tampa Bay was hoping for the best but prepared for the worst with Nicks. So the offensive linemen the Bucs currently have on the roster, the team was ready to play football with them in 2014, with or without Nicks. Actions speak louder than words.
Are the Bucs interested in Boone? Joe would be shocked if they were not. So too are about 20 other teams or more. What are we to make of Rapoport’s news? Joe smells a plant, not of the seven-leaf variety.
Joe knows Rapoport has the cell phone number of every general manager in the NFL. Likewise, every general manager knows how to reach out to Rapoport in seconds. Joe is thinking the 49ers dropped this information in Rapoport’s lap to not only start the shopping for Boone, but to drive up the price.
It wouldn’t be like the 49ers never played a prominent member of the NFL media, a con by the 49ers last February that Rapoport innocently found himself in the middle of, if not a victim.
August 12th, 2014 at 6:46 am
If Bucs acquire Boone Orange McCown will come back to Pineapple McCown status. In fairness to McCown he has been demoted to Orange McCown until we have a NFL ready o-line.
Rainey & 5th rounder for Boone will allow us to experience the real Tedford offense with Pineapple McCown.
August 12th, 2014 at 7:03 am
^Try Doug Martin and a 4th… 9ers aren’t stupid.
August 12th, 2014 at 7:07 am
^ Neither are the Bucs, Mike James and a conditional 4th that turns int a 3rd
August 12th, 2014 at 7:18 am
That’s just silly Joe. Ian is usually accurate with his reports and to say its only on the 49’s side would just be careless and too easy for any other GM to prove false. It’s not like another GM wouldn’t call Licht up and say are you really interested? And I would think Rapport is professional enough to call our GM to verify any interest.
You’re the one being silly. Why would Licht tell Rapoport he’s not interested?–Joe
August 12th, 2014 at 7:37 am
Of course we are investigating the possibility…..why shouldn’t we?….doing a deal is another matter. I like the idea of giving up James or Rainiey and a 4th round pick or a 3rd round with them giving us a 7th.
August 12th, 2014 at 7:45 am
you know, McCown was on the field (lol literally) for a total of what, 4 series, and just like I said the first time..
it’s the first preseason game.
And everyone is calling for Mike Glennon to take the reins. How about our O-line keep McCown off the freakn ground?
Or I’ll do you one better, how about everyone sits and waits patiently for the total of 4 preseason games to pass before we START a QB vs the Stink’n Panthers.
Go Bucs!
August 12th, 2014 at 8:13 am
Well said, T-DUB, gotta avoid those “knee-jerk” reactions/opinions and take a closer look at the Buccaneer situation.
At this point, it’s all practice, even these “games”……
August 12th, 2014 at 8:23 am
Here is Boone’s 49’ers contract;
2012 signing bonus: $1,700,000
2014 base: $2,000,000
2014 roster bonus: $200,000
2014 workout bonus: $50,000
2015 base: $1,200,000
2015 roster bonus: $200,000
2015 workout bonus: $50,000
Also, there ia a $30,000 a day fine, for missing training camp. It would seem, that if he ended his holdout, he would be owing the Niner’s money.
In a league that has a shortage of offensive guards, Boone will surely, in the least, double his payday or more, on another team.
August 12th, 2014 at 8:36 am
Its usually not good when you hear your team rumored in the trade. Ususally means that the other team (49ers) is driving up trade value to other teams.
August 12th, 2014 at 9:01 am
I would surely rather wait and pick up a cap casualty from another team….at least that way we would have to give up a precious pick.
August 12th, 2014 at 9:12 am
There are some scenarios good for both sides:
Get: Bonne + a 3rd/4th rounder
Give: D.Marting + Clayborn
Martin is a good RB and Clayborn might be perfect rotatinal guy for 49ers system.
Both were 1st rounders and the Bucs might get an compensatory pick or two, as that is coupled to the players salary and position (clayborn a good paid DE)
I say do it! I dont think Clayborn is a very good 4-3 pass rusher and RB´s are eaysily replaceable (Lesean McCoy is an heck of an athlete though. The muscle hamster while cool to have – nothing special)
August 12th, 2014 at 9:15 am
Screw that, I’m giving them a 5th and saying you’re welcome. Why would we give up a versatile Zuttah for a 6th and be talking about a player + 3rd round pick in exchange for Boone?!
August 12th, 2014 at 9:17 am
To the ones thinking to trade Dougy Martini is undebateable:
There are RB´s capable of doing sth. out of nothing. All they need is just very little space, if at all, able to break multiple tackles (Mike Alstott anyone?).
Doug Martin needs blocking like every RB does. Like every ordinary RB needs, so to speak >>> nothing special. not even elite speed.
August 12th, 2014 at 9:32 am
@ all: agreeing it would be nonsense to give up picks. While it would be crazy not to get another good O-liner in here.
Let´s see how the new regime will handle this situation.
They did some costly mistakes already this offseason:
Nicks, even if he could have played, wouldn´t have been anywhere near top shape. That was clear, even before the draft (some mentioned it).
Then in draft, which was deep in WR and O-Liner(!) i was pretty sure (after Evans pick) the Bucs would double up on WR or get that lineman. Instead….
BS. (TE pick in 2nd was great). But i am not convinced Evans will even be the most dominant WR out of this draft. So thats a bit of an crazy pick (IMO) at the 7th, but its a “lets see”.
But why the heck have we been picking a RB in the first 3 rounds quite often? Everyone knows: Its starts up-front and good RB can be have much later! And RB´s are very easy to scout too! BS.
Lets hope GM Licht get it all right. He is on a short line. 3 years (including this one) should be enough to judge his doing (maybe even 2) So far NOT IMPRESSED AT ALL.
The Zuttah trade comes to bite back, bite back hard.. He COULD HAVE GET AN GOOD ONE IN DRAFT INSTEAD THAT STUPID STUPID RB PICK!!!
F IT!
Boone would be okay, if his contract is not to big: because he seems like an above average-good player. nothing more + versatile. Instead we could have kept Zuttah….. sorry for long post, but thats serious. Go Bucs!
August 12th, 2014 at 9:48 am
49 ers want a Third from what I hear. A quality RB and a 4th might do it
August 12th, 2014 at 10:12 am
There is no way I would give up 2 starters (Clayborn/Martin) for a guard. Yes we need a guard, but there will be cuts coming. And, I would not give up picks. We’ll just have to wait, see, and hope we can find at least 1 guy to either step up or bring 1 in.
August 12th, 2014 at 10:21 am
Give up Martin or James is crazy no way the bucs do that Rainey is the one that will be on the move James was killing it last year until his injury he has a bright future with us Rainey and a 4th and depending how good the team does can be moved up to a third but nothing more speed is very over rated especially for running backs vision and breaking tackles are much more important than speed
August 12th, 2014 at 10:24 am
its a power play by the 49ers…
you want out of town? ok, we’ll send you to the land of MRSA. go look up Carl Nicks on wikipedia Alex.
I will be at work tomorrow coach.
August 12th, 2014 at 10:30 am
With a lot of teams needing a guard, the negotiating price, may become to high for the Buccaneers.
August 12th, 2014 at 12:03 pm
@Fuzzy Red Coin:
2 players (which are easily replaceable) for an much needed Guard + a draft pick. thats good.
+ eventual compensatory pick instead of wait and see game now.
but i could also live with the wait and see attitude… but uh, boy, it could get ugly
August 12th, 2014 at 12:15 pm
@ Hectic, The 9ers know that we are standing around with our pants down with our guard situation. They are holding the cards, they can and should laugh in our faces if we offer up Rainey for Boone.
August 12th, 2014 at 12:29 pm
What a mistake to get rid of Zutah, he never looked as good as he does right now.
August 12th, 2014 at 12:55 pm
Did someone actually say Martin + Clayborn . This is laughable, 4th round pick or higher . The 49ers aren’t in a position to extend him or give hime a size able pay increase. They have to manage their own cap and will not invest heavily in a guard with current cap situation. The more preseason games they play and the longer this holdout continues will only strengthen the Bucs negotiating position. Here’s to the best for the Bucs
August 12th, 2014 at 1:04 pm
Welp, there goes some of your credibility. You clearly don’t know how compensatory picks work.
August 12th, 2014 at 2:11 pm
@louden
“An” precedes a word that starts with a vowel not a consonant. Just sayin. Otherwise, pretty good points.
August 12th, 2014 at 4:25 pm
@louden,
I’m not sure either Clayborn or Martin can be “easily” replaced. I do like James and Rainey was decent, but we don’t have a replacement for Clayborn that I’m confident with. Maybe Gholston could step in, buts that’s a maybe and Bowers hasn’t show much. Clayborn is supposed to have a breakout year. I would hate to see pieces of our D going to other teams for a guard when we should have already seen this coming and at least drafted 1 earlier in the draft. If the Sims kid pans out then it is what it is. We should be able to find someone to bring in without trading away picks or starters.
August 12th, 2014 at 4:52 pm
Uncle Albert
Are you part of the grammar police, are you undercover? An going before a starts with a vowel not a consonant, you are or you’re funny. Just to be perfect. When I type on this board the letter don’t even come up because I type too fast I guess. Weird.
GO BUCS!
August 12th, 2014 at 5:11 pm
It’s laughable how many people think that just because you have a surplus at a position, that another team is hot for what you’re comfortable parting with. Just because we can spare a RB doesn’t mean that’s what the 49ers want. They still have Frank Gore as their workhorse. They also spent their 2nd round pick on Carlos Hyde (RB) and the shows are still talking about what a great game he just played as the starter. One analyst called him the best runner in the draft and they’re saying the only problem the 49ers have is that there won’t be enough touches to keep them both satisfied. So… any other garbage moves you might want to try pawning off on the 49ers?
August 13th, 2014 at 5:10 pm
I would hate to see it, because i love him on field in a Bucs uniform, but:
Boone + 1st rounder + 3rd/4th Rd = V-Jacks + Clayborn
Could bring 49ers over the top straight to a Championship
And would be good for Bucs near future
i would be in favor of it – and V-Jacks deserves a fair chance at the trophy