McCown’s Leadership Blows Away Coaches
June 3rd, 2014Joe almost finds it silly when he hears people talking about how Mike Glennon could win the Bucs’ starting quarterback job for opening day.
This is Josh McCown’s offense. Just listen to his coaches after today’s practice at One Buc Palace.
QB coach Marcus Arroyo even mentioned that McCown has been tweaking the offense.
“He’s a 12-year vet who knows a lot about himself and how to get things done in this league,” Arroyo said. “We’ve got some subtle things in our offense that he had to tweak and change that we did. And he did a great job doing it. He’s a high-profile QB who’s able to translate that stuff right away. There are subtle things that we’ve done that he’s done and we’ve done to fit what we’re asking him to do.
“You judge leadership by influence. And really it’s how collectively does a guy walk on the field and you can feel that collective aura, the influence [McCown’s] got on guys. When he talks about guys when we’re not there, when he grabs the room together, when he’s watching film [on his own] with guys. When he’s got questions [that he brings] to a meeting. All the things that make a guy a pro, he has. And those things come out right away, as soon as you meet him, as soon as you work with him.”
This afternoon, offensive coordinator Jeff Tedford also said “McCown is one of the truest professionals I’ve ever been around, I mean as far as just an unbelievable leader, so knowledgeable. Puts in extra hours every day, you know, studying film.”
Joe’s not saying the Bucs are down on Glennon. He’s still the “quarterback of the future.” The Bucs’ brass loves them some No. 8.
But it’s McCown’s team all the way — until it isn’t.
June 3rd, 2014 at 1:57 pm
I agree. I think McCown is the perfect guy for Glennon to learn under. This used to be the way to groom rookie QB’s coming out of college and then suddenly RGIII and Andrew Luck, along with Cam Newton spoiled people into thinking all QB’s coming out of college should be ready to step into the starting role immediately. It’s tough for any rookie coming into the NFL to be productive as a rookie but especially so for the QB. Glennon showed enough his rookie year to let you know the tools are there. Now let him learn under a true vet and professional. It will be good for Glennon and good for the Bucs.
June 3rd, 2014 at 2:04 pm
‘Nah, the coaches don’t know nothin. He’s just a journeyman who never started a full season, was even cut by the coach that just signed him. He’ll be benched by the third game… yada yada yada.’
Anyway, this is what we hear from the boo birds. I for one, am excited about this quarterback. This could get really fun. Stay healthy Josh…
June 3rd, 2014 at 2:20 pm
Bullspit?
June 3rd, 2014 at 2:28 pm
I agree….sure he hasnt lit it up not counting last year in his previous stops, but you just never know. Not every players path is the same….Gannon is a good example….even Brad Johnson who was a bit more distinguished before coming to Tampa flourished once he got here.
Im a BUCS fan…im going to pull for whoever is behind center.
Get it done Josh!
June 3rd, 2014 at 2:29 pm
That’s not a bad thing. Personally I hope McCown makes it through the entire season as our starting QB. I hope Glennon takes full advantage of this time to hone his skills, get stronger, gain confidence, and learn to recognize all the defensive alignments, before his mentor hands over the keys. At least afford Glennon the same luxury with a year or two of holding the clipboard that everyone was willing to give 1st round picks Manziel or Bridgewater. I think we are in good hands with McCown and Glennon. Especially when realistic expectations have us going no better than 8-8, regardless of who the quarterback is. Personally, I think this QB combination is going to surprise this year. If our defense is everything it’s billed to be and McCown duplicates last years offensive performance we’ll do better than nationally expected. I’m not a homer but 10-6 doesn’t seem to be completely out of reach considering our brutal schedule.
June 3rd, 2014 at 2:44 pm
Not a good sign when the ” career backup” has to tweak the offense for the O-Coordinator.
June 3rd, 2014 at 2:45 pm
I’m a card-carrying member of the JMP. Thanks, Joe, for sharing with all these silly McCown pessimists the truth about the gem we currently have leading our offense. Bucs going to the SB.
June 3rd, 2014 at 2:47 pm
McNown will be in the Pro Bowl. Thirty touchdowns and 12 interceptions.
June 3rd, 2014 at 2:50 pm
This smokescreen is cover for the opening day start of Mike Glennon.
June 3rd, 2014 at 2:50 pm
I agree @ Bobby, I’ve said here before, that if your name isn’t Peyton Manning, Eli manning or Andrew Luck, and some others, you should hold the clipboard for a couple of years and learn from the veterans. Hell Aaron Rodgers learned from from Favre for three years, too much pressure from organizations and fans to have immediate success from rookie quarterbacks. In most cases unrealistic expectations. GO BUCS!!!!!
June 3rd, 2014 at 3:02 pm
I’m glad McCown knows how to be a professional after 10+ years in the league. Nothing that is stated in this article is a sure fire reason why Glennon wont be starting. Still find it funny how so many people are willing to give a career back up a chance over a 2nd year QB who had a decent rookie season. Oh well, will be fun to hear the newly invented excuses when Glennon takes the job in pre-season. McCown will be an excellent back up.
-LONG LIVE THE MGM!!
June 3rd, 2014 at 3:18 pm
Glennon is solid, but not nearly as wise, polished & mobile as McCown. McCown has way more to offer our offense than Glennon, as of right now. Anyone who disagrees is in denial or blind.
June 3rd, 2014 at 3:39 pm
When you look at his signing on the surface, “career back-up, no full seasons, etc.” it makes you shake your head. Now that he’s in camp and working with the team, you see the intangibles and begin to understand. This type of leadership can be contagious and will only make others around him better.
June 3rd, 2014 at 3:47 pm
McCown will start. Glennon will sit behind him for a year. Everyone wins.
June 3rd, 2014 at 3:57 pm
The-Buc-Realist: “Not a good sign when the ” career backup” has to tweak the offense for the O-Coordinator.”
Maybe, maybe not. It may be a coaching staff that is willing to listen to veterans who understand the game. How might have things been different last year if the coaching staff had listened to McCoy about stunts and rushing the passer. Believe it or not, some players are smart and can contribute to the game plan that they are tasked with playing.
June 3rd, 2014 at 4:44 pm
Netwalker…..great point. The players, mainly our veteran players voiced they’re disappointment with the old coaching staff not willing to accept any of the players input. They didn’t hate Schiano, but they knew he couldn’t coach, and part of that was because he would not let the players have any say. The fact that Tedford is WILLING to take in McCowns point of views being the guy that touches the ball every snap, shows he does not have to much pride to learn from anyone. It doesn’t mean McCown is designing the offense, probably just little things here and there that he has seen first hand throughout his career. I’m very optimistic about Tedfrod….much more than I ever was about Schiano or his new staff.
June 3rd, 2014 at 5:17 pm
Who cares how professional he is. He either wins or he doesn’t.
June 3rd, 2014 at 5:46 pm
McCown has been in the NFL for over a decade. Coach Tedford’s experience, while covering even more years, is all in the NCAA. It stands to reason that Tedford might have a misconception or two about the pro game that McCown could help clear up. That Tedford and Arroyo are willing to listen is a good thing. It also demonstrates that McCown was probably professional enough to address it w/o ruffling feathers or bruising egos. That kind of diplomacy is one sign of good leadership skills.
June 3rd, 2014 at 6:02 pm
The_Buc_Realist Says:
“Not a good sign when the ” career backup” has to tweak the offense for the O-Coordinator.”
While I agree with your conjecture, there are exceptions. For instance, it may be that Josh showed them a certain play, and said “I can’t throw that pass.”, or “That pass is not one that I am comfortable with. Can we change the receivers’ pattern to this.”
Different players have different ‘comfort zones’. QBs are no exception. In fact, they probably have the most diverse ‘comfort zones’ of any position.
June 3rd, 2014 at 6:22 pm
Skinny guy always holds the clipboard!!
June 3rd, 2014 at 6:32 pm
Glennon just needs a few years to sit and learn from McCannon, and hopefully he’ll be ready to take over in 2017.
June 3rd, 2014 at 7:48 pm
I’m with Couch on this one, much to the Joe’s chagrin Glennon keeps making a fair number of their (let’s call them ‘90% or better’) predictions about Glennon look worse than Madoff financial advice.
June 3rd, 2014 at 9:27 pm
Couch Fan Says
“Still find it funny how so many people are willing to give a career back up a chance over a 2nd year QB who had a decent rookie season.”
Couch, do you deny that McCown nearly retired this year? Why do you suppose he changed his mind? Yes, money probably played a role, but he just as likely might have wanted a staing role promised to him.
It would make sense for him, but also for Lovie, who did what he did with a veteran QB in the past.
Also, consider this. If Mike Glennon really is “the future” as Lovie says, would it make sense putting him in with an untested offensive line and risk him getting injured? At the very least, McCown can play the role of meat shield and be an example to Glennon this year as a starter.
June 3rd, 2014 at 10:03 pm
Leadership for qb’s also work when carrying a clipboard, he still has to beat this kid out and I don’t see glennon giving up just a veteran is here because he was already given the reigns one
June 3rd, 2014 at 10:18 pm
Couch, do you deny that McCown nearly retired this year?
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All I know is what the media spews out which a majority of the time is BS. He could of only came back because he was promised the starting job, or maybe he was only promised a shot at being the starter if he could beat out Glennon? That’s just as likely. Who knows, but I refuse to believe that Lovie is going to hand the keys over to a guy who has been a career back up for 10+ years, without giving Glennon at least a chance in pre-season to win the job. If Glennon is better I would want him out there because that would give us the best chance to win. I dont buy the meat shield thing, why would you put the lesser player in unless you didn’t want to win?
June 4th, 2014 at 2:15 am
One day, the MGM will make a reunion years into the future. They’ll probably still believe in the “Cannon”. They’ll say “why didn’t they give him another shot?” “But he beat the Lions’ terrible defense!” “He single-handedly beat the 4-12 Atlanta Falcons!” “He only needed the first half of a game to win it, at least 4 of every 13 games”… We’ll see a lot of tattoos an T-shirts of the legendary 19-9 and catchy phrases like “best rookie cannon in worst possible situation.” They already have a twitter profile @mikeglennonmob
June 4th, 2014 at 5:35 am
I like Glennon and also believe he can be the “QB of the Future”, but I also agree with Buccaneer Bonzai. ‘Right now’, McCown is the smarter move for starter in the season opener. Glennon will get his chance, but we’ve all seen what happens if your ‘chance’ comes at the wrong time/place. *If* Glennon greatly overshadows McCown, in pre-season, then the coaches might chance the pecking order, but in the mean time, it is to Glennons’ advantage to have McCown out in front.
June 5th, 2014 at 3:44 am
Hey, BTH, have you seen my red & white cane?