“This Mike Glennon Thing… “
May 29th, 2014
The Custodian of Canton is suspicious of the knighting of Mike Glennon “quarterback of the future.”
Though many Bucs fans don’t want to read it, the words from Bucs coach Lovie Smith over some two weeks ago that backup Mike Glennon is the “quarterback of the future” still has the walls One Buc Palace rattling.
What does all of this mean? It is a thick smokescreen? Did Lovie really mean Glennon is the starting quarterback in the future? Did it mean the competition for starting quarterback this fall is open? When is “the future?”
Well, the “Custodian of Canton,” eye-RAH! Kaufman of The Tampa Tribune, proclaimed not only is he not sold on Josh McCown as the Bucs’ savior, Kaufman told a national radio audience Wednesday that Lovie’s words about Glennon simply don’t add up.
Appearing on “Movin’ the Chains,” co-hosted by Pat Kirwan and Jim Miller, heard exclusively on SiriusXM NFL Radio, Kaufman initially appeared to discuss the passing of Bucs owner Malcolm Glazer. But while Kirwan and Miller had Kaufman on the phone, they asked him general Bucs questions.
Kaufman was meandering about various Bucs issues and in one breath took a sharp turn and smashed right into Lovie’s quarterback crystal ball.
“I know that you guys are looking at this from afar, but this Mike Glennon thing, there have been like 37 stories written about Mike Glennon in the last three weeks. About a backup quarterback,” Kaufman said. “I believe he did a good job last year. But you know what? You can’t keep calling him the quarterback of the future, guys, when he played a full season and now you have reduced him to a backup role behind a guy who was a journeyman. Pat, I’m sorry, because I know you like McCown. But a year ago even you would have said ‘a journeyman.’ And he had a heckuva season last year, there is no question. So, I do not believe everything Lovie is saying about Mike Glennon’s future. I really don’t. I don’t think he is going to be the heir apparent to McCown in a couple of years. We will see. I think he is a good backup, but to be your guy going forward, I’m not buying it, guys.”
As Joe wrote previously, there is something fishy about this whole quarterback thing and Joe just cannot put a finger on it. Bucs general manager Jason Licht and Lovie clearly saw something on Glennon’s tape they did not like. Otherwise, why go out within hours of the free agent dinner bell ringing and buy a quarterback? Something on tape about Glennon spooked L&L, and Joe would love to know what that was.
If what L&L saw on tape passed muster, enough to declare Glennon the quarterback of the future, then there was no reason to rush out and get McCown.
Again, Glennon had more starts last year than McCown has had in his past five seasons.
Now, yes, Lovie will tell everyone he knew and trusted McCown and didn’t know Glennon, hence why he was so aggressive in obtaining McCown’s services. Joe understands this and respects this.
But you know what? Lovie didn’t know bratty Jay Cutler, either, when the Bears traded for him and started Cutler right away.
May 29th, 2014 at 7:20 am
Wow! What a quarterback controversy we have!!! It just needs to be resolved. It is at the top of every Buc fan’s mind every day. We just can’t escape the daily news regarding our QB situation.
There is nothing puzzling about it….and there is no controversy….We were 4-12….Glennon was a rookie who wasn’t ready for prime time….Lovie knows McCown…a journeyman…sure…but what’s wrong with that….they didn’t want to gamble on the QBs in the draft and Glennon has impressed them enough to have a future (at this point)….
It is self-serving for the media to continue to regurgitate old news and to make the same suppositions on a daily or weekly basis.
McCown is our starter….Glennon is our V
May 29th, 2014 at 7:21 am
Glennon is our backup….Lovie says he is our QB of the future…of course….Lovie could change his mind about that…so what else is new?
May 29th, 2014 at 7:22 am
Lemme go get some popcorn…
May 29th, 2014 at 7:31 am
chumps
May 29th, 2014 at 7:33 am
Glennon looks like Beaker from the Muppets.
May 29th, 2014 at 7:33 am
“As Joe wrote previously, there is something fishy about this whole quarterback thing and Joe just cannot put a finger on it.”
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Joe, in the 4+ years I’ve been coming to JBF, you’ve NEVER been able to “put a finger on this whole quarterback thing.”
But keep trying, you might get it one of these years.
JOE (and IRA) KNOW QBs!
May 29th, 2014 at 7:34 am
Pablo has fallen deeply In love with the cannon
May 29th, 2014 at 7:35 am
Joe, you do realize who Lovie settled with at QB for before Jay Cutler right?? Oh yeah .. Kyle Orton and Rex Grossman .. So for everyone surprised he is happy for now with Mccown and Glennon baffles me, they are both Smart, game managing QBs which match Lovie Smith, If Glennon sits then sucks after we move on, that easy, The media is literally psycho analyzing phrases to find a story right now
May 29th, 2014 at 7:40 am
Glennon lacked good qb coaching last year. Having McCown to get things started while having Glennon learn more from Arroyo & Tedford is the best fit for the offense. This is probably Lovie and Licht’s ideal way to start their 1st year here. IMO that is why McCown(more experience) is here.
Glennon being the future??? It all depends how satisfied Lovie and Tedford are with his progress by next year. But if the opportunity is there next year to get a better QB they will not hesitate to trade Glennon.
May 29th, 2014 at 7:43 am
‘sigh’
May 29th, 2014 at 7:45 am
If we start the year we sub-par o-line there is no doubt McCown is the starter…
May 29th, 2014 at 7:55 am
Has more to do with solidifying the position. They aren’t going to go with just having glennon and orvlosky,you get rid of orvlosky, you get another qb that’s capable,he is making matt cassell money so stop blowing it out of proportion. You have more competition than had you still had just glennon and orvlosky which makes the position better and if one goes down or stinks it up you have another qb capable of starting. It’s not that complicated
May 29th, 2014 at 7:55 am
L&L are inflating the value of Glennon to drum up trade offers. Calling him the QB of the future at this point in his career is laughable.
May 29th, 2014 at 7:59 am
TampaBayBucFan has it absolutely right. Glennon was a rookie with good leadership skills but still needs some tutoring. He didn’t have it last year. Now he does. McCown is a veteran who has finally matured into a decent starter. Lovie wants to win now and knows what McCown can do. Reporters need something to write about, so they create imaginary controversies. It’s the off season. Expect more of the same.
May 29th, 2014 at 8:00 am
If our OL plays as bad as it currently looks we will probably have a high enough draft pick next for a QB so all of this is a moot point. Let’s just hope we can put together an OL. Looking at the schedule we open with two at home against CAR and STL. BOTH winnable games…BUT>>>TWO GREAT DLS. IF (GOD forbid) we lose those two and have to go face ATL PITT AND NO on the road we could be in shambles before the bye. I’ve also said it could go the other way..win the two at home and one of three on the road WE COULD BE IN BUSINESS> Training camp and preseason will tell a lot along with (I am sure) multiple roster changes we are yet to see.
May 29th, 2014 at 8:00 am
Yet the bucs didn’t draft a QB at all. No mettenberger, not car, Murray didn’t even go till the fourth, and they drafted a running back before that. That has to tell you something too, doesn’t it? Maybe the nfl is tired of anointing the next great qb too early knowing they don’t have a good way to develop them. If glen non can turn into the next brad Johnson, who was also a journeyman, would that be good enough for you? If you want them to build a team for excitement, rather than to their winning philosophy, you better start calling for Lovie’s head now. He is a defensive coach. He would rather be a consistent steady ball control offense that scores slowly but surely to give his smothering D a rest.
May 29th, 2014 at 8:06 am
Fact is, McCown got a payday from a guy who liked him, his deal is 1 year, $5 mil, nothing more. Talent will win out, always does, if Glennon beats out McCown for the starters job, it’s because McCown is what he is, a career backup/journeyman, if McCwon beats out Glennon, then we know what we have in Glennon and we keep looking. The $5 mil is nothing in NFL terms for a veteran QB, but what it does, is it gives the Bucs breathing room for a year.
May 29th, 2014 at 8:12 am
Wow talk about beating a dead horse. Nothing to see here. It’s not some crazy mastermind thing that needs to be figured out by the media. As stated above Mccown was brought in cause the Bucs and Glennon were 4-12. Why everyone waste countless hours in guessing what they think is in a coach and organizations head? Write and report in what your seeing on the field. This type of reporting drives everyone nuts..it doesn’t change anything. If Glennon develops his game and can master the offense then he will be our QB of the future. When this happens depends on him otherwise who cares. If he’s not he will be traded and we will find another QB of the future.
May 29th, 2014 at 8:13 am
Why do people (sports media and fans) think they’re entitled to the truth? You’re not.
May 29th, 2014 at 8:14 am
GLENNON HAS NEVER PLAYED A FULL SEASON.
May 29th, 2014 at 8:17 am
Joe says
“Otherwise, why go out within hours of the free agent dinner bell ringing and buy a quarterback?”
You keep saying this, but if it had been Johnny Gazelle (under the exact same circumstances), I think you would be praising Lovie for bringing in people (Tedford and McCown) that could help develop an ‘abandoned’ player. Wasn’t it right here that I read when Shiano said,”QBs don’t need coaching?”, or something to that effect. We know that Freeman didn’t help him. *I* don’t know if Glennon can take a team to the ‘promised land’, but last year, he seemed to have less support (on and off the field) than a veteran would have. There is no ‘fair’ way to evaluate a QB under those circumstances.
As I’ve said before, the best scenario, going forward, is for Glennon to get some valuable playing time this season. With this coaching staff, an experienced AND helpful QB/mentor, and likely better play selection, we will see if we have the “QB of the Future” or if he’s possibly in the next draft.
May 29th, 2014 at 8:20 am
I’m going just as crazy about this topic as everyone else, but hey its late May. Arguing about Glennon over and over is still better than watching baseball. What the heck else we got to talk about?
May 29th, 2014 at 8:23 am
You know I knew of Lovie Smith from Chicago, but I really don’t know Lovie Smith. I am beginning to learn the man. Lovie is quite the politician. He is by design a clever wordsmith (pardon the pun). He is intentionally ambiguous. Is that nefarious? I don’t think so, but it is clever.
For instance, when Lovie says after practice “there are 6 CBs that I like”, is he saying there are 5 that I don’t like or is he saying after 4 days of OTAs there are 6 that stood out? Should we assume that they are the same 6 that will stand out in the next OTA? Or is he saying to the other 5 in coachspeak, I need to see more from you?
Only Lovie knows! I think the same is true for the QB of the Future pronouncement. It is spoken in truth, but meant to be ambiguous – every QB in camp is a QB of the future or why would you waste the time to teach and develop them? To say that it is a statement of fact implies that he knows the future and it is destined to be regardless of injury or performance.
Your guess is as good as mine, but I think he is saying that McCown is my QB of the present and we’ve seen enough of Glennon to say that sometime in the future, Glennon could be our QB of the present. To believe anything else is to look Lovie squarely in the eyes and ask him outright to clear up the ambiguity. Joe could clear this up at the next presser, but I’m betting that Joe gets the same ambiguous response because Lovie the politician wants it that way!
May 29th, 2014 at 8:29 am
To the vast majority of sports analysts and fans there is nothing fishy, Mike ‘the Cannon’ Glennon is your QB of tomorrow and most likely will see starting QB duty this upcoming season. Rather simple concept actually
May 29th, 2014 at 8:31 am
Do you not think that 13 out of 16 games is pretty much a full season? No we know very much what his level of play was last year. Now with his desire, fortitude and intelligence, lets see either on the field or through internal reports in practice if he is showing significant improvements. He got a wonderful opportunity to be selected in the third round via Schiano last year, now seemingly a chance to grow with Lovie. A man can not ask for more than that.
May 29th, 2014 at 8:52 am
I think they are looking forward to the QBs in next years draft, so for right now Glennon is the future. This gives them a year to see how he is coming along under Tedford’s system. From everything I’ve read it sounds like people think next years draft will be a better QB draft at least with Mariotta and Winston (if he can stay out of trouble).
May 29th, 2014 at 9:00 am
kaput Says:
“Glennon looks like Beaker from the Muppets.”
That’s pretty original.
May 29th, 2014 at 9:06 am
@Macabee
Chicago is my second city, spend a lot, I mean a lot of time there, as the wife’s family is till there. Lovie isn’t a wordsmith, he barely has a grasp of the English language. I’m going to state again, I was against this hiring from the beginning, there was a reason he was fired from the Bears after a 10 win season, much like McCown’s ceiling is 5 good games a year, 10 wins is Lovie’s ceiling, get used to 10 win seasons and barely making the tourny if they do at all. I’ve already written the headline for January 2017, Bucs Fire Lovie and Staff….after 3 years and 3 ten win seasons with no playoff appearances, the Bucs have fired their HC & GM. Now, I hope this doesn’t come true, but just like famous obits are written years in advance just in case…
May 29th, 2014 at 9:23 am
Haha.. Pahblow got beat to the punch. Thanks Tbbf, it’s refreshing to have an intelligent take at the top for a change… I agree, there’s no real controversy. McCown is our starter. And basically every single physical attribute of his is slightly better than Glennon’s. And he has more wisdom. That’s why he’s our starter. No controversy.
May 29th, 2014 at 9:27 am
A fee things:
Malcom should be added to the Ring of Honor this year.
Why would anyone assume Arroyo & Tedford are going to “develop” Mike Glennon well? Maybe they will or maybe they won’t. We don’t know. And yet, people are acting like they will…like it is a sure thing. Tedford has proven nothing, and really, neither has Arroyo.
Macabee had the best comment above. He was sensible.
The thing I get hung up on is the two QB thing. If we all know the offensive line stands a good chance of sucking, then why would we assume the quarterbacks will stay healthy behind it? Let’s say McCown starts the first game…and gets injured…season ending (really, that would be career ending). Then we go the resst of the season with Glennon starting and no backup?
The oline would still be dangerously bad and Glennon would still be at high risk as the starter. So some might say we can find someone then. The problem I have with that is our coach and GM should already be prepared for that. That’s what they get paid for.
I understand Lovie is a 2 GB guy, but with him knowing the condition of the oline I think it is reckless to stick to his guns on it. At least go with three until you know the oline can keep your QB healthy.
And if you know this, and plan to keep three like a sensible coach would, then why waste the opportunity? Bring in real competition for Glennon. Make him earn the “QB of the future” label, instead of just handing him everything.
This, to me, is a huge mistake Lovie is making before he even coaches any games. Is it a hint that he still isn’t capable of building an offense?
And, if he is capable, why would he bring in an OC who has no NFL experience and who wasn’t even good enough to keep a job in college?
These are clues. Clues that point to potential issues. Normally, a new coach doesn’t have negative clues like this. I don’t doubt that Lovie is the man to fix the defense. But the knock on him is offense. And I cannot help but wonder if all he has going for him on offense is the element of surprise.
As to McCown, people forget some things. First, he lost 2 of those 5 “good games” last year. Second, he played in more than five games. He sucked in the other games. But because he didn’t “start” the other games, people ignore them. Truth is, he failed to raise the offense to winning quality, even with all those passing yards.
How do you inflate a QBs stats? Have him make short passes all day. They are high percentage plays, you get large passing numbers, and picks are less likely. That’s why McCown got good numbers…but that doesn’t work well against redzone defense…which is why he didn’t win nearly half his games.
May 29th, 2014 at 9:30 am
TDG,
So that means the coach and GM are wasting our money this year.
May 29th, 2014 at 9:35 am
Why is this so tough? L&L can mean what they say about the Q.B. position. Of course they are always going to present a best case scenario but I’m sure they’re aware of the fragile nature of their current plan. If it doesn’t work out then they will have made a wrong choice. Time will tell. And it might be just that, buying some time to figure out what they have.
And so what L&L are asking us to believe is that McCown can be another Brad Johnson or that Glennon is another Dilfer. Again is the goal to win a Super Bowl or to have the best QB in the Division?
May 29th, 2014 at 9:55 am
Why why why go through this exercise?
Schiano didn’t get this much micro analysis for his stupid statements and decisions.
Why does a proven – accomplished head coach have to constantly absorb this noise?
If we win early all this disappears so again I ask why???
May 29th, 2014 at 9:56 am
The Jaguars are planning on sitting Bortles the entire season. They clearly don’t believe in him.
What you say? Glennon has already played? Well, perhaps, LoveLicht recognized the circus that was last season in Tampa, and wants him to sit and learn while a vet starts things out. Perhaps Lovie even wants Tedford to get his bearings set as well. He’s never called a play in the NFL. They gutted the roster as well. Rome wasn’t built in a day.
It doesn’t have to be as conspiratorial as it’s being made out to be. Some might even say it’s conventional. But, we see what we want to see, don’t we?
May 29th, 2014 at 10:10 am
The future is anytime after right now. So MG is the QB of the future, and rightly so. McCown knows it, Lovie and all the coaches and players know it. Many of the fans know it and have known it since last year. Many fans don’t know it, they will learn it this season. Don’t look for zero wins and a half dozen losses to start the season, because it’s not going to happen. No way!
May 29th, 2014 at 10:27 am
It’s pretty simple as I see it.
Glennon’s future is in his own hands. If he can master the offense and make the throws in camp, preseason and practice, then the job is his soon enough.
McCown is a bridge to Glennon this year. With only two QB’s on the roster the reps and mind share go to the cannon.
May 29th, 2014 at 10:27 am
There’s no QB controversy for me. While I think either guy would be great to have a beer with, I’m not crazy about having either one under center.
For the Bucs 2014 season, the QB who starts the most games will be deemed the lesser of 2 evils. A career backup against a future career backup isn’t my idea of comfortable. Think Smith and Licht are really dumb enough to push their chips in with a low pair against the big boys for the next 5 years? If you do, you’re probably wrong.
When I think of McCown, I think of Tommy Maddox. Remember him? Had a stellar season with Pittsburgh after years of riding pine and being out of football. One stellar season. After that, he was toast. The year he was bounced out, a young kid named Roethlisberger took over. That’s our future, or at least it should be. Roll the bones in the draft next year and get something better than the future washouts being offered this year.
May 29th, 2014 at 10:40 am
There’s clearly no QB controversy here. There’s just fans biting bait that is not meant for them.
May 29th, 2014 at 10:54 am
He sure as heck did.
May 29th, 2014 at 10:56 am
Dont worry Joe, once Glennon is starting this season it will all make sense.
May 29th, 2014 at 11:02 am
“As Joe wrote previously, there is something fishy about this whole quarterback thing and Joe just cannot put a finger on it. Bucs general manager Jason Licht and Lovie clearly saw something on Glennon’s tape they did not like. Otherwise, why go out within hours of the free agent dinner bell ringing and buy a quarterback?”
Couldn’t it simply be that the thing that Lovie and Licht saw that they didn’t like was his inexperience? To me, going after an aging career backup says more in FAVOR of Glennon than it does against it. Once upon a time, QB’s didn’t start until their 3rd year or so, and they came in ready (for the last example I can think of see: Aaron Rodgers). If the Bucs really, really weren’t interested in Glennon, they’d have drafted a QB at some point this year plain and simple. McCown is going to be as much mentor as he is going to help the Bucs compete while Glennon gets his feet under him.
May 29th, 2014 at 11:25 am
This subject is the new Johnny Football obsession for Joe. I guess we’re going to have to be subjected to this incessant questioning of L&L’s “real” thoughts on Glennon until he’s either traded or becomes the starter… Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. OK, we get it, you have doubts about L&L’s sincerity on the issue… That’s not unreasonable, but can we give this sh1te a rest?
May 29th, 2014 at 11:33 am
Architek Says
“Why why why go through this exercise?
Schiano didn’t get this much micro analysis for his stupid statements and decisions.”
That is total bullspit.
May 29th, 2014 at 11:39 am
The quarterback situation is fluid. Some very respectable NFL analysts, including an ex-Bucs tight end who works for the four-letter, is convinced there is a quarterback competition for the starting job.
It is the most important position on a football team and the play at that position very well could determine if the Bucs make the playoffs, or miss the playoffs (again). Is currently manned by a guy who may or may not be riding the waves of a fluke handful of games, or a quarterback that still has many question marks.
Why the hell would Joe ignore it?
May 29th, 2014 at 11:44 am
“Couldn’t it simply be that the thing that Lovie and Licht saw that they didn’t like was his inexperience? To me, going after an aging career backup says more in FAVOR of Glennon than it does against it. Once upon a time, QB’s didn’t start until their 3rd year or so, and they came in ready (for the last example I can think of see: Aaron Rodgers). If the Bucs really, really weren’t interested in Glennon, they’d have drafted a QB at some point this year plain and simple. McCown is going to be as much mentor as he is going to help the Bucs compete while Glennon gets his feet under him”
Extremely logical post. Ergo, it will be ignored to focus on fractionally lesser possibilities.
May 29th, 2014 at 11:50 am
Oil Derrick Brooks Says
“The Jaguars are planning on sitting Bortles the entire season. They clearly don’t believe in him.
What you say? Glennon has already played? Well, perhaps, LoveLicht recognized the circus that was last season in Tampa, and wants him to sit and learn while a vet starts things out.”
That makes the assumption that Glennon is unable to learn while actually starting…which kind of supports the opinions of the non-MGMers. And you do not mess with the confidence of a “future” QB by benching him after he gets his starts. That is a recipe for disaster.
Rob Says
“Couldn’t it simply be that the thing that Lovie and Licht saw that they didn’t like was his inexperience?”
And the solution is to demote him to prevent him from gaining more experience?
See, these kind of points are why the non-believers remain.
Also, I think things would be different if we had someone of equal potential for Glennon to compete with. McCown is not that. Equal competition would be someone that meets the following requirements:
Strong potential success
Potential long term solution
Who, aside from Glennon, has that? No one at QB. McCown is at best a two year solution, but more likely will not finish his first season without a career ending injury.
Who else is there? No one serious. And that’s why we wanted a QB to be drafted.
Now, instead of having a good competition, Mike Glennon is named as the heir apparent without earning it.
And, the answer if he fails? Draft someone next year? Sorry, that doesn’t wash. We’re expected to spend our money now.
I cancelled my season tickets. Whether I go to individual games depends on what I see from here on out. So far? I’ve seen nothing.
I’ve heard some things, yes. Like “Up tempo”. But I’ve no reason to spend my money so far, and I’ve been one of the regular spenders for years.
I once believed just having a great defense and a mistake-free QB would win a championship. That was back when our division was not so competitive. That was back when that was true. But it is simply not the case now.
Teams must have once side of the ball in the top 5, and the other in or near the top ten to succeed in general. In our division, just to make the playoffs means 20-24 points scored in each game on the average. That’s not game managing.
We don’t have to have an elite offense if we have an elite defense, but the offense surely will need to be among the top 10-12.
May 29th, 2014 at 11:53 am
Now, when Glennon gets to start, what is going to be in the back of his mind?
“I better do great or this coach will pull me in a heart beat.”
Lovie says he supports Glennon as the “future” but his actions say differently. If Glennon is the future, start him.
Peyton Manning said the same thing half way through his career.
What amazes me is that before the draft, MGMers were saying teams don’t sit their franchise QBs for a year. But suddenly, because its Glennon, their tune has changed.
May 29th, 2014 at 11:55 am
Orca Says
“This subject is the new Johnny Football obsession for Joe.”
And yet…it drew you in.
I think the fact that QB stories get the most comments makes Joe’s case that it is a well-desired topic amongst visitors, even if they do not agree with him.
May 29th, 2014 at 12:03 pm
Go Glennon! Cant wait for the pre season to start for the battle of our 2 QB’s.
Even if McCown wins out and MG8 can sit and learn, Im ok with it. But like Joe, Im still worried about our O line.
May 29th, 2014 at 12:04 pm
Glennon is the QB of the future.
Glennon will become a Franchise QB for the Bucs.
Glennon has more of a chance to learn and develop this year, under Josh McCown, whereas Glennon was thrown into a storm of dysfunction because of Josh Freeman and his leaky agent.
We have 2 legit NFL QBs.
#AnyoneButFreeman
May 29th, 2014 at 12:23 pm
” And you do not mess with the confidence of a “future” QB by benching him after he gets his starts. That is a recipe for disaster.”
Strictly your opinion. Much like your laundry list of draft prospects. Glennon strikes me as fairly head strong. He might not even kill himself.
“I cancelled my season tickets. Whether I go to individual games depends on what I see from here on out. So far? I’ve seen nothing.”
Awesome. You waited an entire 5 months into the regime? How many seasons did you support the Dominick regime (28-52) before throwing in the towel? 1 season? 2? 3? 4?
People who can’t even wait until one game, much less a season to backseat drive the new GM and HC amuse me. The prior regime drove the team into the ground. You don’t rebuild a totaled car in a few months. And they might build it differently than you like (or perceive as correct), but, what matters is if it wins races. They haven’t even gotten to the track yet, and you’re headed home.
I’ll take Licht’s opinion 8 days a week over any poster or blogger here. Hell, I might even let them play a single game before I criticize them.
May 29th, 2014 at 12:38 pm
“That makes the assumption that Glennon is unable to learn while actually starting”
So, then Jax used a first round pick on a guy that can’t learn while starting?
May 29th, 2014 at 12:40 pm
Its like you told Duemig yesterday Joe
“McCown’s the starter til he’s not.”
Now after preseason we’ll have a clear picture of who our starter will be. Since McCown is the starter now Glennin would have to go above and beyond to unseat McCown so likely if all works out Glennon will spend the year on the bench and be our starter in the future aka 2015
May 29th, 2014 at 1:55 pm
Seems some just cannot get over the notion that L&L don’t evaluate Glennon the same way they do.
I love it when babbling heads interview other babbling heads…and get babble…
May 29th, 2014 at 2:24 pm
very sad. nothing to see here.
May 29th, 2014 at 2:36 pm
“And the solution is to demote him to prevent him from gaining more experience?”
That’s one way to spin it, another is to let him ride the pine for a year or two to watch an veteran mentor show him how to survive in the NFL. It’s worked for plenty of QB’s who come in around year three and have more confidence, knowledge, and overall ability when they start, rather than being thrown to the wolves like he was last year.
May 29th, 2014 at 2:52 pm
*yawn i’m bored with the poodles agenda….tkras can’t take over soon enough…the *sic “media” needs a wash
May 29th, 2014 at 3:01 pm
I like Glennon and think he could be a decent quarterback in this league. That being said, I don’t think it will be in Tampa. I have a very strong feeling that we will be selecting a QB in next years draft. I believe Lovie and Tedford weren’t sold on the class of QBs this year and McCown is the bridge between now and our next draft selections. I think that was the plan and now that Glennon has shown them some value at the position I think they will hold on to him until a QB desperate team gives them one hell of a deal. Lovie saying “Glennon is the future” was just waxing the car before its sold in my opinion. It might not happen this season, but if Glennon doesn’t blow them away or show consistent improvement this year then Tedford will be hand picking his own guy. (That is of course if Tedford himself can run our offense long enough to make it to the next draft) Which I think is a bigger concern.
May 29th, 2014 at 3:04 pm
Kaput- you owe me a Beer. I made that comparison about Glennon months ago. No stealing my lines!
And that goes for you guys stealing my unique spelling of Pablow. Get yer own damn material. We don’t spinster plagerism here.
But I no longer use the Glennon- Muppet comparison, as he will be on our roster this year, and has won my respect.
And Pablow is funny, especially in the third person
May 29th, 2014 at 3:21 pm
Blah blah blah. Sure would like to read a real story.
Scroll around, friend. You’ll find plenty. Where else can you read about Euclid Cummings, or Gerald McCoy’s take on his new D-line coach. Don’t be so bitter. Life is good, and Joe is free. –Joe
May 29th, 2014 at 5:20 pm
I have to wonder if Lovie Smith ever reads these posts on here just to get a good laugh. Because at this point it is very comical. A bunch of sport columnists that have never coached or even played a down of the game trying to even toy with the notion that they know more about the game than a coach that has been to a couple of Superbowl’s. Thanks for the laugh, Joe….
May 29th, 2014 at 5:35 pm
Oil Derrick Brooks Says:
“I’ll take Licht’s opinion 8 days a week over any poster or blogger here.”
WTH?!?! Now I’m just chopped liver, or something?! :^)
May 29th, 2014 at 5:36 pm
Joe, this is not complicated. You are going about this like trying to figure out the rubix cube.
1. Josh McCown was fantastic last year so he was brought in to start.
2. Mike Glennon showed flashes last year but made rookie mistakes.
Therefore Glennon is the quarterback of the future. McCown plays now while Glennon practices and gets better and takes the reins when McCown retires.
May 29th, 2014 at 6:13 pm
Guys… there’s no such thing as a QB controversy on a 4-12 team. There just isn’t. If we start winning games and McCown stinks it up anyway, a la Griese of 2005, then you have a controversy.
May 29th, 2014 at 6:43 pm
Joe, I like your site. I didn’t like reading about JF being the second coming Jesus everyday. We didn’t draft him so now are we going to be subjected to reading an article everyday about how MG sucks and won’t amount to anything?
May 30th, 2014 at 1:58 am
@P’cola Buc Says:
May 29th, 2014 at 8:31 am
Do you not think that 13 out of 16 games is pretty much a full season?
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May 30th, 2014 at 11:07 am
L&L had to make a decision on QB depth before spending a second on the field with their incumbent QB. they did a smart thing. more telling are their actions in the draft, after they had a sense of what glennon could or couldnt do