Pulling And Pushing
May 20th, 2014
“Trust your team leaders, my son.”
One reason Bucs coach Lovie Smith has fallen in love with Josh McCown isn’t because he will confuse Bucs fans with Joe Montana. But Lovie believes what McCown does off the field is as important as what he does on it.
Lovie always gushes about McCown. And one of the reasons he brought McCown to Tampa Bay, aside from to be the starting quarterback, of course, was to be a big brother of sorts to backup quarterback Mike Glennon. Try to be Glennon’s unofficial coach.
Something must be going right because Glennon admitted today the Bucs assured him before the draft he would not be traded. McCown told Joe today after the Bucs’ OTA open practice that Glennon is a dream to work with.
“Mike soaks everything up,” McCown said. “He asks great question all the time. He loves the game and wants to get better and that is all you can ask for from any young player. It is impressive to have a guy like that around. I enjoy every day coming to work with that guy.
“He lines up and makes throws; that is exactly what I think you want from your position groups: guys pushing and pulling. Older guys pulling the younger guys along and the younger guys pushing the older guys. It’s a good relationship with us and our ultimate goal is to make the team better.”
That’s good to know. Look, a lot of quarterbacks would have been so PO’ed about a new coach bringing in a starting quarterback, they would have pouted and stomped their feet and likely demanded a trade or an outright release.
Instead, Glennon appears to have put his proverbial nose to the grindstone. That’s pretty cool.
May 20th, 2014 at 4:07 pm
Very nice. Much prefer to focus on the kids positives than negatives. Glad we have McCown here to mentor him. Can’t wait to see these guys on the field!!
May 20th, 2014 at 4:14 pm
That’s good to know. Look, a lot of quarterbacks would have been so PO’ed about a new coach bringing in a starting quarterback, they would have pouted and stomped their feet and likely demanded a trade or an outright release.
Instead, Glennon appears to have put his proverbial nose to the grindstone. That’s pretty cool to know.
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@Joe that’s the nicest thing you have ever written about #8. Has one of you Joes joined the MGM?
May 20th, 2014 at 4:15 pm
Nice article. Aw shucks. They’re all good.
May 20th, 2014 at 4:17 pm
I would never want to count Glennon out, 100%, 90%, or whatever. He’s the kind of guy that will go out of his way to prove you wrong. I like that.
He also knows when to admit when he’s been wrong. Also admirable. Some people don’t possess that trait.
May 20th, 2014 at 4:18 pm
You know there was the idea of having a rookie QB sit out and learn from McCown and the System. Now I think about it, its not bad for Glennon to go through this experience. If he can learn and improve then by all means go for it.
It is strange a QB to be benched, lose his job, then potential regain it. But again if it improves Glennon then why not.
May 20th, 2014 at 4:21 pm
Glennon is a good kid and he will learn a lot and perform way better than last year if (hopefuly not) needed this season. Good job by L&L increasing his trading value for next year.
May 20th, 2014 at 4:25 pm
@Joe you hear the interview on Jim Rome with Mike Evans funny stuff. Pretty bad interview.
May 20th, 2014 at 4:28 pm
Wow what a 180 degree turn this is. So pre draft the signing of McCown was a sure sign (even though others like me indicated otherwise) that Glennon was done in Tampa! Lovie didn’t believe in Glennon.
Now he is a mentor you write. Good thing you can read between the lines so well. It took Lovie, McCown, and finally Glennon to get you to realize that.
Guess we know who will be the smokescreen press guy in future drafts huh?
May 20th, 2014 at 4:32 pm
The competitive edge will drive him, but I think he has ample self control to resist childish displays like Josh Freeman, who was my favorite buc until his spiral. My Nc boy Mike is gonna tear it up when he makes it in.
May 20th, 2014 at 4:37 pm
Vico
Trade value next year? Hate to burst your bubble but L&L meant what they said when they declared MG8 their QB of the future and so far it appears he’s done nothing to change their minds in that regard and I expect him to only get better with time.
May 20th, 2014 at 4:44 pm
Joe’s coming around. Spit shine your Glennon mob Pitch Fork Joe’s!
Perhaps if you use a catchy name like Michael Football you’ll like him more.
I offer Mike Cannon up, but I know the Joe’s have a affliction for the ‘Football’ moniker.
May 20th, 2014 at 5:05 pm
Free of the Schiano/Dominik/Freeman cancer!
May 20th, 2014 at 5:13 pm
You don’t have to be in the MGM to wish Glennon well….he has done everything he’s been asked and done it with maturity, professionalism & class.
A novel thought…..learning the trade by being mentored by an experienced player…..practicing & developing.
I am encouraged about Mike Glennon’s future.
May 20th, 2014 at 5:19 pm
From Adam Schefter on NFL Insiders:
Mike Glennon “has truly impressed” and “opened up some eyes” and will “certainly” compete for the Bucs starting job.
Someone at One Buc is feeding Schefter something a heck of a lot different than Joe’s take that Glennon has no chance to start right away.
May 20th, 2014 at 5:28 pm
Curious to hear Joe’s take on Shefter’s report today that Mike Glennon will “certainly compete for the starting job” and has “truly impressed and opened eyes at Buc’s headquarters.” Totally possible they brought in McCown to be the starter, then realized Glennon was better than they thought, hence them not drafting a QB when everyone expected them too. Either way, its fair to say that there’s less than a “100% chance” McCown starts week 1.
May 20th, 2014 at 5:32 pm
I dont remember who coined it but I liked Winnin’ Mike Glennon lol
May 20th, 2014 at 5:34 pm
And Mikey Glennon can pull! Have you seen his old lady? Yowza!
May 20th, 2014 at 5:58 pm
Shefter said Marinelli was going to be bucs DC and that never happened. Also predicted Aaron Donald to the Bucs, Vick to the Bucs. The dude gets some news, but if he is the only one reporting it, I have to call BS.
May 20th, 2014 at 5:59 pm
Bucks_Sam Says:
May 20th, 2014 at 4:44 pm
Joe’s coming around. Spit shine your Glennon mob Pitch Fork Joe’s!
Perhaps if you use a catchy name like Michael Football you’ll like him more.
I offer Mike Cannon up, but I know the Joe’s have a affliction for the ‘Football’ moniker.
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Several weeks ago, I coined Napoleon DynaMike!
tickrdr (charter member MGM)
May 20th, 2014 at 6:06 pm
Schefter also reported Gregory was safe in his position, just 24 hours before he got spit canned.
May 20th, 2014 at 6:06 pm
I take back everything bad i said about Joe (almost). Giving MG a chance might cost a season but how many lost seasons have we had since 1976. Last year was lost not because of MG. Let’s have confidence in Lovie until he shows different.
May 20th, 2014 at 6:10 pm
Glennon quotes from the interview posted on Pewter Report:
Part of what makes Glennon think he can have success in the newly-installed Jeff Tedford offense is his somewhat familiarity with the scheme.
“It’s been good, a lot of the uptempo stuff a lot of the concepts I have run, similar to my offense at college,” Glennon said. “A lot of the concepts are what I ran in college for five years so I am comfortable with it and it has looked good so far and I think we are going to continue to build on it through these next OTAs and mini-camp.”
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Maybe he won’t be such a terrible “fit” in Tedford’s offense
tickdr
May 20th, 2014 at 6:43 pm
Good thing he’s not a fragile little china doll like lil ole Free Free.
May 20th, 2014 at 6:52 pm
Napoleon dynamike is my favorite.
May 20th, 2014 at 6:54 pm
Looked at the cannon’s highlights again, pro and college, still don’t see it…..
Must be like one of those images of the Virgin Mary only certain people can see.
May 20th, 2014 at 6:57 pm
Hope he works hard he suck last year that’s for sure I didn’t see to many Glennon jerseys at the games I was at. In fact I didn’t see any
May 20th, 2014 at 7:10 pm
@Eric Says:
“…Looked at the cannon’s highlights again, pro and college, still don’t see it…
Must be like one of those images of the Virgin Mary only certain people can see.”
LOL, I agree with you. I think there is a special Kool-Aid you have to drink to see “IT”. btw, it’s The Cannon – the “T” and the “C” are supposed to be capitalized or you are being disrespectful.
The thing I am loving most, all the MGMers are claiming to be the first to have said this, and the first to have said that. Now, they are fighting over who said it first that The Cannon will be the opening day starter. That only happens if someone slipped Lovie some Kool-Aid
May 20th, 2014 at 7:10 pm
I really wish the Joe’s would identify themselves. Some seem patient and fair while at least one other seems petulant. This article and the others from today seem to be of the non-petulant variety. I prefer this Joe.
May 20th, 2014 at 7:12 pm
@Nybucsfan Says:
“…Hope he works hard he suck last year that’s for sure I didn’t see to many Glennon jerseys at the games I was at. In fact I didn’t see any…”
Thats bc the MGM is seriously cheap, lol. But as Bucs fans they are family, so we still have to love them (momma says)
May 20th, 2014 at 7:20 pm
Please stay healthy Josh.
May 20th, 2014 at 7:21 pm
Glennon is very bright and a very hard worker, but the mystery last year was why he held the ball so long in the pocket. As bright as he is you would have expected he could read the defense (he studied plenty of film), know the plays like the back of his hand, and been able to quickly process all that and gotten the ball out quick anticipating where his receivers were going to be. That did not happen. If anyone other than VJax wasn’t wide open he was going to throw it to his outlet receiver, which was why he was one of the worst in the league for yards per play. It also helped to explain why he took so many sacks–that and his lack of mobility. If he had been the Seattle QB they would have never even gotten to the SB, much less won it. Perhaps Tedford and Josh can get him to get the ball out quicker and lessen his sacks, but tell me how they are going to make him mobile. You can’t. When Lovie sees that he will brag on him and showcase him and trade him to the highest bidder and bring Smith up from the Practice Squad, who is mobile and has a quick release, at least until he can trade up next year for Marrioto. Josh will be great for us this year, however! And watch Carr become a star QB, we could have had, for the Raiders, except for this facination for Glennon.
May 20th, 2014 at 7:28 pm
It’s remarkable how different Glennon is treating his benching compared to Freeman’s reaction. Too bad we wasted four seasons to find out JF5 was never going to amount to anything more than a Michael Jackson lookalike
May 20th, 2014 at 7:48 pm
LOL, I agree with you. I think there is a special Kool-Aid you have to drink to see “IT”. btw, it’s The Cannon – the “T” and the “C” are supposed to be capitalized or you are being disrespectful.
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This is the problem that the haters like Eric and Harry are having. “MGMers” aren’t looking for “It” as a rookie because most people with intelligence don’t expect a rookie to step into the league with “It”. The “MGMers” simply want to give the kid a chance and aren’t looking for reasons to kick him to the curb after 13 games because he doesn’t have something called “it” that is based solely in the eyes of the beholder and can easily be skewed off of emotions, such as being a freemanite. Not saying your Freemanities, just giving an example. Your minds have already been made up and our convinced he will never have “It” after only 13 games. It’s ok though. Sooner or later you will be forced to love him when were winning. Or you can just go on hating him forever.
May 20th, 2014 at 8:30 pm
There’s always room for 1 more. Bucs signed another QB today, Alex Tanney. Since Lovie said he would only take 4 QBs to camp, somebody has got to go!
May 20th, 2014 at 8:58 pm
Mike is no mArino but i think he can be As good as Matt ryan
May 20th, 2014 at 9:08 pm
tickrdr Says:
May 20th, 2014 at 5:59 pm
Several weeks ago, I coined Napoleon DynaMike!
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GlenninGrad Says:
May 20th, 2014 at 6:52 pm
Napoleon dynamike is my favorite.
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Thank you very much!
tickrdr
May 20th, 2014 at 9:14 pm
Destinjohnny – for him to be as good as Matt Ryan, he’d have to learn something Ryan had from the start, something that earned him the nickname ‘Matty Ice”…. the ability to stare at a 4th quarter deficit and not lose his cool, to calmly and coolly lead his team to victory in the 4th quarter time and again when it was against the odds.
I don’t think they’re that much different skills-wise. But Ryan has a will to win, a drive to finish games that Glennon hasn’t shown yet (for the MGM, I add yet to allow for the possibility, not necessarily a probability, that Glennon improves)
May 20th, 2014 at 9:21 pm
Lol @ bambambuc
Matty ice will to win was very apparent last year.
May 20th, 2014 at 9:22 pm
He looks more like Beeker to me . Beep beep beep
May 20th, 2014 at 9:24 pm
Brett Smith is gone. Tanney is his replacement. No more noodle armed throws in camp!
May 20th, 2014 at 9:25 pm
Hey tickrdr,
I think Darelle Revis beat you to this. But since he’s gone I think you deserve the honor! lol
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/23875994/mike-glennons-teammates-think-he-looks-like-napoleon-dynamnite
May 20th, 2014 at 9:26 pm
Wonder how good this tanney is D3 but 157 TD to. 30 int’s and like 14,000 in passing yards
May 20th, 2014 at 9:42 pm
I hope The Cannon totally lights it up when he gets his opportunity.
But the troubles we saw last year were there at NC State too, so I’m not too optimistic.
Gotta have the skill set to develop, which I don’t see.
But, Lovie has spoken, hope like hell it works.
May 20th, 2014 at 10:29 pm
“I Love Mike Glennon”- Lovie Smith
May 21st, 2014 at 12:05 am
It’s remarkable how different Glennon is treating his benching compared to Freeman’s reaction. Too bad we wasted four seasons to find out JF5 was never going to amount to anything more than a Michael Jackson lookalike
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Two totally different coaches; one who wasn’t NFL Head Coaching material and one who is a proven Head Coach and knows how to treat players like grown men. It’s like one of the sports show host said; a lot of fans seems to have done a memory dump and have this new revisionist history.
May 21st, 2014 at 12:34 am
BUCSFAN68…2 different coaches are irrelevant. Since you can’t let Freeman go or are not willing to except he was a baby on his way out, I guess you can use whatever excuse that is left out there. I thought they were all used up, but along comes you and yours. Congrats!
May 21st, 2014 at 7:03 am
Does anyone really believe Lovie when he says Glennon is his quarterback of the future? He is building him up so he can get more for him in a trade.