NFL “Elevated” Bucs On Mike Glennon
May 12th, 2014
Former Bucs QB Shaun King talks Mike Glennon.
Former Bucs quarterback Shaun King was a busy man this weekend. The NFL analyst for NBC Sports Network, which you enjoy weeknights with the creator, curator and overall guru of ProFootballTalk.com, the great Mike Florio, was at Radio City Music Hall.
As he returned to Tampa today, King, only one of three quarterbacks to lead the Bucs to an NFC Championship game, took some time to discuss football, including the Bucs, on Ron and Ian, heard locally on WDAE-AM 620.
King believes the Bucs are not blowing smoke about their newfound love for backup quarterback Mike Glennon. King believes so many teams wanted to trade for Glennon it made the Bucs rethink their position on the second-year quarterback from North Carolina State.
“I think the other teams’ interest in Mike Glennon elevated his status within the Bucs organization,” King said. “From what I was told, a lot of teams really view Mike Glennon as a legitimate starter down the line and really coveted him. I think because of that interest, it made [Bucs coach] Lovie [Smith] and [Bucs general manager] Jason [Licht] re-evaluate his standing here in Tampa. So I think his status was elevated.”
To hear more of King’s wisdom, click on the orange button below, courtesy of Joe’s good friends at WDAE-AM 620.
May 12th, 2014 at 1:02 pm
Boy King has got to be in your bad books now Joe right? First he talks down Johnny, then he talks up Glennon? You must not be impressed.
May 12th, 2014 at 1:05 pm
Joe enjoys Shaun’s takes. Doesn’t always agree with him, just like Joe doesn’t always agree with everything a lot of people that he respects say.
May 12th, 2014 at 1:06 pm
You don’t know what you’ve got until your enemy tries to take it.
May 12th, 2014 at 1:06 pm
Nice pic. When did Barry White become affiliate with PFT?
May 12th, 2014 at 1:07 pm
Joe, 2 minutes in to this interview and Johnny Football was popular because of Rap music?
Bwahahahaha…
Shaun King cracks me up at times, please tell him so when you see him again.
I do wonder the same about his comments, and team sentiment on Glennon, they sure seemed to change quick.
May 12th, 2014 at 1:08 pm
Seriously, I’m concerned for his health. I remember him looking like a 12 year old boy in 1999.
May 12th, 2014 at 1:09 pm
I think King is covering his tracks for once. Is he not a Glennon basher himself? If so, this is his reasoning as to why he was wrong. I’ll just stand by what I said way before the draft. The Bucs like Mike Glennon as a back up…for now. I think the draft only solidified their own beliefs to begin with when it came to Mike.
Remember naysayers “the tape don’t lie”.
L&L like MANY of us might have taken into consideration what Glennon was working with and didn’t see them as excuses like so many JBF’ers.
May 12th, 2014 at 1:10 pm
Don’t know when the rest of the Glennon haters will open their eyes…. This kid is not a backup. Never has been, and never wants to be. Guys like McCown will embrace the clip board if it’s handed to them…. And I guarantee Glennon now smells blood in the water.
I fully expect him to light it up in training camp and preseason. The media is going to have a field day with Lovie if he changes “his starter”, but come September it will be the obvious choice.
May 12th, 2014 at 1:10 pm
Seriously what happened to Shaun, the dude was an elite professional athlete, I mean I guess he still could be on the professional hot dog eating segment
May 12th, 2014 at 1:12 pm
king is looking more and more like the round mound of rebound charles barkley just without credibility in his profession.
nbc is a joke always has been. there so called journalism credibility is right up there with comedy central or E network…
he flip flops so much I can’t take him seriously. He makes a few valid points but they a few and fair between at least he seems less bitter towards the bucs now the rockstar and schiano are gone.
May 12th, 2014 at 1:13 pm
@Joe I’d say you’re taking your medicine very well! You did not have to post this, but you did! So for that I have much respect for you! Thank you and keep up the great work Joe!
May 12th, 2014 at 1:15 pm
glennon is the next Tom Brady.
May 12th, 2014 at 1:15 pm
“he flip flops so much I can’t take him seriously.”
tmaxcon…that’s hitting the nail on the head.
May 12th, 2014 at 1:18 pm
bigpoppabuc
what is your relation to 8 brother or sister only a family member could be so blind…. Please watch Brett Smith’s highlights and athleticism before you make such bold predictions. I don’t hide the fact I think Glennon is a backup but I will support him if he beats anyone out but I also don’t want to support mediocrity its time to win now. May the best man win and do not discount for one minute the Arroyo connection to Smith. He may not have coached him directly at wyoming I am unclear of the timing but he recruited him and has been involved with his development since high school…
May 12th, 2014 at 1:19 pm
I really hope King’s take is not the truth, I wouldn’t want my team deciding to keep someone, just because others seem to want him too.
I think King is just as surprised as many in the media that the Bucs didn’t draft a QB at all in the draft, and figure there’s no way that they (the media) had such a bad read on what L&L were trying to do (during the season of smokescreens), that the only reason things unfolded as they did was because of a last minute change in thought, brought around by outside interest in a player.
I think the Bucs knew what they were doing with the position no later than the team’s first mini-camp a few weeks back (after seeing Glennon in person with his teammates), perhaps before that. They fleeced just about everyone (I pegged them for a QB by the end of Friday night), and some people just don’t like the fact they were fooled, even though that’s what all talk and speculation prior to the draft is about.
May 12th, 2014 at 1:20 pm
That was Shaun King? I thought Mike Florio had the Kool-aid man on as a celebrity guest.
MIKE GLENNON is so good he was replaced as starter by an 11 year backup who has never played a complete season.
MGMers can talk out their rear sides all they want, but that fact speaks volumes.
May 12th, 2014 at 1:22 pm
“From what I was told, a lot of teams really view Mike Glennon as a legitimate starter down the line and really coveted him.
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Say what? A lot of teams? Even the teams that could have drafted John Manziel and didn’t?
Oh boy. Seriously, I couldn’t have dreamed this going any better for MG8 than how things have played out since 8pm last Thursday.
May 12th, 2014 at 1:24 pm
Damn! Shaun Getting HUGE!!!
May 12th, 2014 at 1:24 pm
Bonzai…as you know I’m not an MGMer. Do you think it’s possible that it being a new offense that Lovie wanted a guy with more NFL experience to run it first? He knew very little about Glennon and the more he got to know him the more he liked him?
May 12th, 2014 at 1:25 pm
That’s not Shaun King that’s a guy who ate Shaun King!
May 12th, 2014 at 1:25 pm
Now fellas!….Shaun King isn’t too heavy….he’s just too short….How would Vincent, Mike & Austin look if they were 6”1″…..
Now, as far as Shaun’s analysis…..he stumbled onto the right answer again (right on JF)….
And…yes….as I always will remind you:
“Shaun King, one of two Buc Quarterbacks that lost a NFC Championship Game when his defense gave up 11 or fewer points.”
May 12th, 2014 at 1:26 pm
Lovie Smith on McCown…you have to have a starting point or something along those lines.
May 12th, 2014 at 1:28 pm
chris Says:
May 12th, 2014 at 1:24 pm
“Damn! Shaun Getting HUGE!!!”
Golden Corral’s worst nightmare.
May 12th, 2014 at 1:30 pm
“MIKE GLENNON is so good he was replaced as starter by an 11 year backup who has never played a complete season.
MGMers can talk out their rear sides all they want, but that fact speaks volumes”
Does is REALLY speak volumes?
1) It’s a 5 mill one year contract. Less than ANY non rookie contract in the league. So, that’s compelling evidence?
2) Signing an experienced QB whether as a starter or a backup to help along a first year QB is safe if not, wise.
3) He’ll start training camp as starter. Whoever ever outplays the next guy will be the regular season starter. Let’s not kid ourselves. Best guy plays. Nothing new.
So, really, volumes??????
May 12th, 2014 at 1:30 pm
Please watch Brett Smith’s highlights and athleticism before you make such bold predictions.
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which highlights you want me to watch? The Boise State game where his offense scored 7 points? Or the final game of his career, against might Utah State, where he again scored 7 points? 3 of the final 4 games of his career, his team scored 10, 7, and 7 points.
I mean, this guy was so good, a gay man was drafted instead of him!
May 12th, 2014 at 1:30 pm
Nothing wrong with the Bucs testing the waters on Glennon. If we were given a 2nd rounder he may have been gone in favor of a more mobile prospect.
Having McCown gave us that option.
May 12th, 2014 at 1:31 pm
Bigpoppabuc,
I agree with you 100%, Glennon is the real deal…student of the game unlike van rip and #8 quick release, arm strength and size will be our starter a lot sooner than people think……#8 band wagon believer….
All you haters just relax…wait and see
May 12th, 2014 at 1:34 pm
MIKE GLENNON is so good he was replaced as starter by an 11 year backup who has never played a complete season.
MGMers can talk out their rear sides all they want, but that fact speaks volumes.
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Here’s another fact that speaks volumes: The Bucs didn’t draft Johnny Manziel when they had a chance…cause they think Glennon is better. If they thought Johnny was better he’d be a Buc right now…but they don’t.
May 12th, 2014 at 1:35 pm
LOL!
May 12th, 2014 at 1:35 pm
I think it’s funny that Joe post this stuff. I think it’s only to get a rise out of MGM. He lost his starting job to 35 old quarterback who has never been a starter. But the bucs give him the starting job before he gets to Tampa over Mike Glennon. The MGM are still talking. The writings on the wall he’s a backup. We have no idea what other teams are willing to give for him
May 12th, 2014 at 1:37 pm
The writers and radio voices will not acknowledge the value of Glennon until Junk Yard Dog tells them it’s alright. They all follow his lead.
May 12th, 2014 at 1:37 pm
Buc1987 Says
“Bonzai…as you know I’m not an MGMer. Do you think it’s possible that it being a new offense that Lovie wanted a guy with more NFL experience to run it first? He knew very little about Glennon and the more he got to know him the more he liked him?”
I think that if Mike Glennon is as smart as people claim, he would pick up the new offense well enough to start. I don’t think McCown is here because Lovie thinks he will do well in his offense, because it isn’t Lovies offense, it is Tedfords and it is something entirely new.
I also think McCown will not do well because in the past, as a backup, he never had the same amount of pressure on him to learn a new offense and start.
And finally, I think that Lovie naming McCown as the starter early on was a huge mistake and showed how little confidence he really had in Glennon. At the very least, he should have said “For now, we don’t have a starter. That’s what the off season is for.”
If we are stuck with Glennon, then Lovie should start him. Otherwise, it will take even longer to firgure out if he really is the future. What, we’ll go with him as backup for 2 years and then start him and waste another 2 years deciding if he should be replaced?
That makes no sense at all.
May 12th, 2014 at 1:38 pm
Oil Derrick Brooks
1) It’s a 2 year contract, $5 mill per year.
May 12th, 2014 at 1:38 pm
time for a new suit shaun
May 12th, 2014 at 1:40 pm
Oil Derrick Brooks Says
“2) Signing an experienced QB whether as a starter or a backup to help along a first year QB is safe if not, wise.”
I’d be all for signing McCown as a BACKUP. But that’s not what Lovie said.
Anf you all keep saying he is up front and honest. So eother you are wrong and he lied about being decided, or McCown really is the starter…in which case, I am right.
May 12th, 2014 at 1:44 pm
What!! Did the guy in the picture eat the real Shaun king?? He’s massive now. I grew up playing tennis in Saddlebrook and every summer Shaun would come in with Sheldon quarles and yo Murphy and a few others. We both used the same guy (pat etcheberry) for workouts. I would work out with the guys doing agility and sprints etc. Shaun needs to get back on that regimen and get back into two a days. Sheesh
May 12th, 2014 at 1:45 pm
Was gonna comment on shuan size but dude may have health condition. Instead I will pray for your health.
Glennon deserves another chance , if he is no good based on we were the 32nd offense than get rid of everyone on offense..
May 12th, 2014 at 1:47 pm
Shaun King is FAT, damn dude, you are on TV man. Someone is a little too comfy in his lifestyle
Looks like all the fatsos at Disney world complaining about walking
May 12th, 2014 at 1:48 pm
Buccaneer Bonzai…are you not the one that said rookie QB’s don’t always need to start if they are taken in the first round. That they could sit a year nowadays? Surely a 3rd round QB might have benefited from sitting a season if a 1st rounder would.
Glennon did not have that luxury last season. Therefore possibly he was not ready and not ready yet still.
I think McCown was brought in as insurance as Lovie was not going to go into the season with a 2nd yr QB he barely knows. McCown is the starting point. Someone Lovie trusts for now. That’s my thoughts on that matter.
I don’t think they looked at the tape like you and Joe say, then said Oh boy we need to bring in McCown or someone else. I don’t think that’s how it went down at all. You and Joe seem to think it’s that cut and dry.
May 12th, 2014 at 1:48 pm
I feel like the only bad move this off season was getting rid of zuttah. Depth and versatility for 4 mil a year. What a waste of a trade.
May 12th, 2014 at 1:49 pm
If glennon has a spectacular preseason and we go with Josh at qb…. next draft we may be able to trade him for a 1st. The 49er’s got 2 seconds for alex smith. Of course if he struggles and leaks from One Buc say he will be traded or cut then we should have sold high
May 12th, 2014 at 1:52 pm
lightningbuc
you are so quick to defend mike glennon with excuses so I’ll make some excuses for the guy I believe in.
Wyoming = no ONE lives there nor does anyone care about the Wyoming Cowboys other than Tracy Ringolsby. Therefore they receive zero exposure. Poor competition also did Smith no favors. In my opinion he was a one man show for the cowboys with a little help from Herron. Please do not embarrass yourself by denying Smith’s athleticism is not superior to the fumbling statue. Smith has been my sleeper for months. May the best man win.
and to the point he was drafted ahead of a gay men is just asinine and proves your ignorance unless you were making a joke which I will laugh at because I hate the PC police so much.
May 12th, 2014 at 1:53 pm
I think we need to rename this website JoeBashFan.com
May 12th, 2014 at 1:53 pm
McCown is the starter I won’t dispute that. McCown is the starter…like I’ve been saying…for now.
May 12th, 2014 at 1:54 pm
Agree, if there is interest in him now they may get more value for him if someone (QB) goes down later in the year for another team. Meanwhile he can develop more behind Cool Hand Luke
May 12th, 2014 at 1:59 pm
“Cool Hand Luke”….Luke’s his brother.lol
May 12th, 2014 at 2:00 pm
I’d love for Brett Smith to be a diamond in the rough, but man, that throwing motion is ugly!
May 12th, 2014 at 2:04 pm
StAugBuc
I agree his mechanics need help. I am not blind to his deficiencies like some of the 8 fans are of their guy. I saw him play in person two years ago have liked him ever since.
May 12th, 2014 at 2:06 pm
Man, fast as hell on the highlights I saw.
May 12th, 2014 at 2:07 pm
Off topic : Since someone brought up Michael Sam. I was wondering while watching the draft how many current players were watching to see who gets stuck with the gay guy in the locker room. NFL is masculinity in it’s purest form. They say the Rams are loaded on the DL already. He was projected by a few to go in the 5th or 6th round, he went in the 7th. Sounds like a PR move to me. He might not even make the team. If that happens I hope it won’t lead to gay protests rallies outside of the Rams facilities.
May 12th, 2014 at 2:08 pm
Shaun King is one doughnut short of a heart attack !
May 12th, 2014 at 2:16 pm
Buccaneer Bonzai Says:
May 12th, 2014 at 1:38 pm
Oil Derrick Brooks
1) It’s a 2 year contract, $5 mill per year.
Yep. One year guaranteed at $5 mill. 2015 is optional
May 12th, 2014 at 2:18 pm
Buc1987
You are dead on Sir!!! Total PR move. Let me clarify before I get killed by the PC Police. You can do whatever and whoever you want that being said does it have to forced down others throat (no pun intended). Same with religion everyone makes choices and ALL individuals choices should be tolerated but not forced to accept or agree. to many idiots on this site to have a educated discussion on this topic but I believe if you choose an alternate life style and want to fit in and be treated equally which all humans are entitled to then fit in and be treated equally don’t go overboard to stand out.
How many other 5th, 6th or 7th round draft choices had news crews and live feeds at their homes. Just saying.
May 12th, 2014 at 2:20 pm
@bonzai
I’m sure he has every intent for Mccown to start training camp as #1. Whoever plays best will have the job. Again, nothing new. If Glennon or Smith outplays him, do you begrudge him for playing the best guy or should he worry people will think he’s a liar?
I guess Lovie already “lied” when you consider his plan for Revis.
May 12th, 2014 at 2:22 pm
Once again: Shaun King, one of only two Bucs quarterbacks to lose an NFC Championship game when the defense gave up 11 or fewer points.
May 12th, 2014 at 2:24 pm
tmaxcon…the only thing that bothered me about the whole deal was when Sam came out a few days after letting the cat out of the bag. He says : “I don’t want this to be a distraction.” I thought wtf, then why did you come out of the closet in the first place then? He created the distraction.
Okay I’m done posting off-topic. I just had to get that off my chest.
May 12th, 2014 at 2:24 pm
ODB
is it really lying or gamesmanship… not being critical just pointing out coaching and being a gm is a lot like being a pro poker player need to keep things close to the vest and masked.
Men of strong principals could care less what others think. That is true peace of mind and I believe Lovie is that guy.
May 12th, 2014 at 2:30 pm
The Manziel Mafia errrrrr Glennon Mob will be clamoring for Mike as soon McCown throws his first INT. 🙂
May 12th, 2014 at 2:30 pm
The key words are that other teams see Glennon as a starter “down the line”. Some of you people are ignoring that part of the statement. Lovie seems to have brought in McCown to bridge the gap between “now” and “down the line”.
Glennon needs more development. But the fact that at least 6 other teams wanted him, after seeing his rookie season, is a pretty strong endorsement. So is the fact that the Bucs didn’t draft a QB. Spin it however you like, but the Bucs obviously want to give Glennon the chance to become the starter and seem to believe he can.
I trust 6 professional football organizations, plus a 7th in the Bucs, far, far more than I trust a bunch of whiny little bitchy “fans” and a Newcastle-quaffing, Rachel-Watson-fantasizing, Mike-Glennon-hating, Shaun-King-endorsing, Johnny-Manziel-massaging, JBF-reader-middle-fingering, Josh-Freeman-new-contract-promoting, local sports blogger.
May 12th, 2014 at 2:30 pm
Lovie’s initial quote on who would be the starter after McCown was signed:
“There has to be a starting spot, a starting point,” Smith said, via the Tampa Bay Times, “a starting person to go out there first. And that would be Josh.”
Doesn’t exactly sound like McCown is the un-questioned starter with no chance to lose the job to Glennon. I think Buc1987 is using a pretty logical argument on what the Bucs are doing. Not sure what is so hard to grasp about it.
It’ll just be written off as “excuses” by the pessimists on this site but this article does a pretty fair job of evaluating Glennon:
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2014/1/23/mike-glennon-buzz-free-dynasty-buy/
May 12th, 2014 at 2:35 pm
FLBoyInDallas…lol you can put down your flamethrower now.
May 12th, 2014 at 2:37 pm
JFat ..thanks for the kind words. I’m been trying like hell to gauge this new regime since they took over. I’m not saying I’m right, just saying so far I might be right.
May 12th, 2014 at 2:39 pm
Some of you guys crack me up, Joe included ……Heaven forbid a NEW head coach do something like change their friggin mind after further evaluation of players they’re unfamiliar with!
May 12th, 2014 at 2:42 pm
I could care less if Sam french-kissed his QB at the Superbowl. Media stories just go go go. I’m pretty sure I heard that everyone on his college team new, so it wasn’t some big secret. No conspiracy to get attention ect. There won’t be protests if he gets cut. He got drafted “around” where he should have according to many analysts, so nothing to see here. He’s getting his chance, which is all that he’s asking for in the USA.
I just wish all gay players would come out, so none of this would be a story and everyone can just deal with living in the 21st century already.
May 12th, 2014 at 2:43 pm
FLBoyInDallas
fellow texas transplant please calm down… .LOL nice rant. I don’t agree but it was a fun read. I don’t believe anything about who offered what or this or that it’s all gamesmanship no one knows for sure if there even was a single offer on the table. it’s all BS this time of year. The truth will not be known ever.
May 12th, 2014 at 2:44 pm
@Jfat
Exactly!!! Amazing how people want to hang on to every word Lovie says but conveniently leave out important details that would make the persons entire argument look foolish.
May 12th, 2014 at 2:44 pm
@tmax
You’re right, I was just pointing out what Bonzai said. At the end of the day, all you can do is look at what actually occurred, not what was said.
The reality is, they had the choice of any QB other than Bortles. If they truly felt strong about that QB, or were truly not enamored with Glennon, they easily could have picked someone else up. The rest is just spin.
Will Glennon stick? Time will tell. I just want to see him fight in camp. He strikes me as someone with a chip on his shoulder. I wish him, as well as McCown AND Smith the best. Best guy plays.
Go Bucs
May 12th, 2014 at 2:47 pm
tmaxcon,
My point regarding Smith is NO ONE drafted him. If the Bucs really thought he was a potential “franchise QB” wouldn’t they have drafted him in the 6th round so as not to risk losing him to another team. This guy is a camp body who will probably get put on the practice squad – best case scenario for him.
To get excited about someone that teams passed on nearly 300 times in the draft is silly. If you don’t like Glennon fine, but don’t hitch your wagon to this guy – even if you were lucky enough to witness a Wyoming game in person.
May 12th, 2014 at 2:55 pm
Based on the current QBs we have, Glennon should start, hes so freaking tall he can see the whole field, why did we notice TE Wright? Thanks to Glennon, and why did Underwood put up better numbers? Thanks to Glennon. M. Williams didn’t even play.
May 12th, 2014 at 2:57 pm
i disagree with your outlook… Only one example is needed to prove my point:
Tony Romo and his 100 million dollar contract says there is a chance for undrafted free agents QB’s that hundreds of others have passed on.
not saying he is the next romo that being said I am pulling for him.
May 12th, 2014 at 3:04 pm
Wow one out of how many? There’s a reason the kid wasn’t drafted sir. Funny thing is.,…. Even Joe knows that.
May 12th, 2014 at 3:05 pm
The whole Tampa media bit on the Bucs smokescreen. Bucs had no intention of ever drafting a QB in this draft. Now there is a lot of backpedaling going on.
May 12th, 2014 at 3:16 pm
MIKE GLENNON is so good he was replaced as starter by an 11 year backup who has never played a complete season.
MGMers can talk out their rear sides all they want, but that fact speaks volumes.
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Damn Touretts syndrome!
May 12th, 2014 at 3:18 pm
The truth is nobody knows if Glennon is a true starting caliber QB or not. I don’t think anybody can say they knew for sure that Brady, Brees, Manning, etc. would be hall of fame QBs after watching their first 12 or 13 games. It’s not a big enough sample size to determine a players future. I’m not saying Glennon is a potential HOFer, but all things considered, Glennon did a good job in a horrible offense with limited receiver options and an O-line that couldn’t block.
I’m not part of the MGM, but realistically I don’t think anyone can say he’s a career back up or a top tier starter. McCown isn’t the long term solution and they didn’t draft a QB. There’s a good chance we see Glennon on the field this year if McCown struggles.
May 12th, 2014 at 3:23 pm
Did anyone read the mini camp reviews? MG8 no anticipation. Holding ball too long. Why did we get offers for MG8, because someone wanted to see what they could get. The team could have said before the draft he isn’t for sale. JMac is our Alex Smith.
May 12th, 2014 at 3:29 pm
“Did anyone read the mini camp reviews? MG8 no anticipation”
Unless Lovie and offensive coaches penned the review, it amounts to zero. Bottom line, they didn’t draft a QB. Glennon is still on the team. Nothing else matters.
May 12th, 2014 at 3:34 pm
I suspect MG8 will beat out J.McCown and win the starting job in camp.
May 12th, 2014 at 3:44 pm
All reporters saw the saw thing at mini camp. JMac is clear #1. All the reporters were drinking? MG8 showed nothing, back up.
May 12th, 2014 at 3:45 pm
Or maybe Tedford, McCown, and everyone else who saw Glennon at camp recently provoked the change of heart? Teams seldom let other teams dictate their opinions…especially of their own players. BTW, can’t tell you how many times I watched the replay of Shaun King throwing the hail Mary out of the end zone in the championship game against Rams. Was in over his head. Whatever happened to all those great years as a starter he was supposed to have?
May 12th, 2014 at 3:50 pm
Just heard on NFL Neteork Brian Hoyer was named the Browns starter and Manziel is his backup! Thank God the Bucs didn’t sign career backup Johnny Football. MGM mob having a very amusing past few days for sure. Now supporting the MGKS Mob
May 12th, 2014 at 3:52 pm
That’s funny Willie! My sources (several ex players) tell me he was so accurate and impressive in his throws that L&L felt Glennon had a future with this team. They told me the Bucs never had interest in any of the high profile QBs coming out in this years draft. What his future holds as a starter no one knows, but he is in their opinion better than anyone available.
May 12th, 2014 at 3:52 pm
Smart!
May 12th, 2014 at 3:57 pm
Although McCown turns 35 on July 4, Smith has frequently said that his quarterback doesn’t have a lot of mileage on his tires because he has only played in 58 games with 38 starts during his 12 years. To put that in perspective, the 26-year old Josh Freeman has played in 60 games with 59 starts in his five years in the NFL – and Freeman only played in four games last season. Although nearly 10 years younger, Freeman has a lot more wear and tear on his body than McCown does.
Smith believes that McCown is a late bloomer that could accomplish more towards the end of his career than at the beginning, similar to former Oakland quarterback Rich Gannon and Super Bowl champion Bucs signal caller Brad Johnson, who both found success and fame in their mid-30’s. Smith hopes that McCown can excel in his first two years in Tampa Bay to the point where he can earn another short-term contract to close out his career in four or five more years.
Not sure where you copied this from, but Brad Johnson had plenty of success before he got to the Bucs. That’s a common misconception. –Joe
May 12th, 2014 at 4:08 pm
Jeez Shaun King you have really let yourself go
May 12th, 2014 at 4:09 pm
But King’s take is one of the dumbest things I have witnessed him say. I can just see L&L fielding calls for Glennon and saying to each other, “hey, maybe Mike is a good QB after all, everybody seems to want him. Lets not trade him and see if we can make a starter out of him.” Yea, bc L&L aren’t smart enough to evaluate Glennon themselves. LMAO
May 12th, 2014 at 4:10 pm
Me:
Understand where you are coming from and on paper, sounds good. Thing is, Joe wonders what Father Time has to say, and Father Time rarely makes exceptions for quarterbacks not named “George Blanda.”
May 12th, 2014 at 4:14 pm
@Buc1987 Says:
“…I thought wtf, then why did you come out of the closet in the first place then? He created the distraction…”
My exact same thoughts as well ’87
May 12th, 2014 at 4:16 pm
“…Not sure where you copied this from…”
And claimed it as his own… Lol, sad
May 12th, 2014 at 4:34 pm
It came from a new Pewter Report Article Joe. Sorry for not mentioning that.
No problem. To further clarify, Brad Johnson was 32-16 as a starter with a Pro Bowl appearance before he arrived in Tampa.–Joe
May 12th, 2014 at 4:47 pm
I’d love too see a timed 40 between Shaun King , and Jared Lorenzen.
May 12th, 2014 at 4:52 pm
I find it ridiculous that Lovie and Licht are so unable to evaluate player talent and are so fickle, that others being interested in Glennon makes them change their mind. If they are that green at their perpective jobs then we really are in trouble. I am really hoping they are capable of watching film on our players, observing player work ethics, coachability, and the other intangebles and don’t need other teams telling them what we have. The whole notion of King’s premis discredits our coaching staff and I have to believe is a pile of BS.
May 12th, 2014 at 4:54 pm
The teams that wanted Glennon probably offered a 4th round pick at best. Who knows if the Bucs would have bit on a 1st or 2nd offer? Good pick up by Schiano at the right spot. Why Revis was brought in, I still can’t figure out that blunder. You get an F for that one Schiano. As far as Michael Sam being drafted, who cares? Oh, it’s the act of revealing your sexuality. I think there are many “gay” players in the NFL, just in the closet.
May 12th, 2014 at 5:00 pm
“…Not sure where you copied this from…”
Lol at plagiarism in the JBF comments.
You can get fired from a job or kicked out
of college for that.
May 12th, 2014 at 5:38 pm
May I suggest the salad bar?
May 12th, 2014 at 6:42 pm
Today has been a great day. Jones whining and crying about he doesn’t like the way Glennon looks. Then BD claiming to be better able to evaluate by looking than scouts can. At least Joe, after a few day disappointment period, is now taking it like a man.
May 12th, 2014 at 6:51 pm
Couch Fan Says:
May 12th, 2014 at 2:44 pm
@Jfat
“Exactly!!! Amazing how people want to hang on to every word Lovie says but conveniently leave out important details that would make the persons entire argument look foolish.”
Happens all the time around these parts Couch. Hmmm I wonder who does it ALL the time?
May 12th, 2014 at 7:32 pm
Buc1987 Says
“Buccaneer Bonzai…are you not the one that said rookie QB’s don’t always need to start if they are taken in the first round. That they could sit a year nowadays? Surely a 3rd round QB might have benefited from sitting a season if a 1st rounder would.”
HUGE difference. I was fine with a rookie sitting his rookie year. I AM NOT in favor of the “quarterback of the future” being given a starting role, and then having it stripped away.
Stripping a starting position away tells the player he’s expendable. Stripping it away and telling him he WON’T be able to earn the start back…that’s an entirely different thing.
Oil Derrick Brooks Says
“At the end of the day, all you can do is look at what actually occurred, not what was said.”
That’s funny, because Lovie said Gleenon is the QB of the future. So does this mean we don’t bother acknowledging that as well? Or only the things that do not support your agenda?
May 12th, 2014 at 7:33 pm
Regardless of how Lovie and Licht really feel about Glennon, whether they view him as the future or want to up his trade value, they wouldn’t go on record and say they don’t like him. It’s in everybody’s best interests if they talk Glennon up. If they said they don’t like him, his trade value is nil, even if he does have a future.
May 12th, 2014 at 7:37 pm
Bonzai-
HUGE difference. I was fine with a rookie sitting his rookie year. I AM NOT in favor of the “quarterback of the future” being given a starting role, and then having it stripped away.
Stripping a starting position away tells the player he’s expendable. Stripping it away and telling him he WON’T be able to earn the start back…that’s an entirely different thing.
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You’re smarter than this, bro. He was annointed the starter, by the previous coaching staff, not this one. In no way should any player feel like they have secured a starting role when a new staff takes over. Just look at what happened with Denver and Jay Cutler…and Denver and Tim Tebow… and many other teams. Coaches want players, especially QBs, that they are comfortable with. If the players don’t play well, it could be the coach’s job. I understand, the players and coaches understand, that’s the way it is, understand?
May 12th, 2014 at 7:42 pm
That’s just Shaun King’s best guess. Nobody told him that.
May 12th, 2014 at 7:45 pm
Bonzai…QB of the future that’s not ready yet obviously.
May 12th, 2014 at 7:53 pm
lightningbuc Says:
May 12th, 2014 at 2:47 pm
tmaxcon,
My point regarding Smith is NO ONE drafted him. If the Bucs really thought he was a potential “franchise QB” wouldn’t they have drafted him in the 6th round so as not to risk losing him to another team. This guy is a camp body who will probably get put on the practice squad – best case scenario for him.
To get excited about someone that teams passed on nearly 300 times in the draft is silly. If you don’t like Glennon fine, but don’t hitch your wagon to this guy – even if you were lucky enough to witness a Wyoming game in person.
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I’ve watched every available game tape of Smith…. most good, a few not so good. He has got a ton of potential. He’s just under 6’2, he’s not even 210 lbs, he doesn’t have a great arm, but he’s a playmaker and was that team’s offense for 3 years (started as a true freshman-even won his first 3 starts). Teams passed on him… teams passed on Brady til round 6, they didn’t draft Romo, Jim Hart, Jeff Garcia, Kurt Warner, Dave Krieg, Jake Delhomme, Warren Moon, and a few others that had good careers. Brad Johnson was a 9th round pick and Len Dawson and Johnny Unitas were drafted in the teens.
NFL history is littered with great QBs they weren’t drafted or drafted AFTER round 7. The fact is, there are questions about Smith.
He will need seasoning for sure. His mechanics (particularly lower body) are not good, he’s small, he played a lower level of competition, but he’s got oodles of talent (3 130+ yard rushing games this past season plus throwing for 29 and over 3000 yards-4.51 40), has a tremendous work ethic, loves the game, and most importantly, he’s a Buc.
He’s a developmental guy and a lot of teams aren’t willing to put in that time. Hopefully, the Bucs will, because if Smith plays to his potential, the Bucs signed lightning in a bottle because this kid can play. At the very worst, he could be the best scout team QB in the league, at his best he could be a star. I was hoping the Bucs drafted Smith from the 3rd round on, we got him as a free agent, even better. According to Smith, Marcus Arroyo and him were texting back and forth during the draft, Arroyo saying the Bucs really wanted him and if he wasn’t drafted, begged him to come to Tampa.
He wasn’t drafted, that’s perfect. There’s no pressure from the outside for him, no expectations, just like when he wasn’t recruited out of high school except for two 1-A schools and went to Wyoming, started as a true freshman and rewrote the school record books in 3 short seasons, he thrives in the underdog role, I’m cool with that but I have confidence that he will work his way into the lineup in the next two seasons and and again prove the doubters wrong and prove he belongs in the NFL.
May 12th, 2014 at 7:57 pm
Sean king got really fat
May 12th, 2014 at 7:58 pm
Looks like a gaurd not a qb
May 13th, 2014 at 12:48 pm
Shenanigans! Shaun King just made something up with no inside info what-so-ever and everyone is running with it like some big secret came out.
May 14th, 2014 at 2:37 pm
Buccaneer Bonzai Said:
“Stripping a starting position away tells the player he’s expendable. Stripping it away and telling him he WON’T be able to earn the start back…that’s an entirely different thing.”
BS. Now he can sit behind McCown like he should have sat last year. As I said, Glennon will come in sooner if Josh lays an egg.
Shaun!! Have a salad for God’s sake!!