McCown Was “Great Athlete, Bad Quarterback”

May 29th, 2014
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Shaun King was a teammate of Josh McCown

The man who led the Bucs to the NFC Championship game after the 1999 season, former Tampa Bay QB Shaun King, also spent a season alongside Josh McCown in Arizona.

McCown was “the guy” for the Cardinals back in 2004, and it didn’t go too well for him.

Talking to host and former Bucs guard Ian Beckles today on WDAE-AM 620, King was asked what kind of QB McCown was during his last stint as the big starting quarterback on campus.

“Bad. Great athlete. Bad quarterback,” King said of McCown.

“What’s interesting is Josh got an opportunity that not a lot of guys get in this league. A lot of guys come in and they’re talented, but they just don’t get it. They can’t quite pick up the system. And, you know, they go to one or two teams and it doesn’t work and then they’re out of the league. Josh has been very fortunate where he’s been able to hang around long enough to where it looks like it clicks now. It looks like the light has come on upstairs, like he gets it.

“He’s always been a great dude, you know, but he’s never been a consistent decision maker. You know he’s never been a guy who really has mastered the mental aspect of the game. But it seems like because he’s been in the league so long, he’s matured in that aspect. And I can honestly say he looks like a different player from the guy I was with in Arizona. So hopefully he’s ready to take what he did last season, in a short sample size, and turn it into a productive two or three years as an every-down starter.”

King really isn’t saying anything McCown hasn’t said himself. Remember his telling interview with Linda Cohn of BSPN, when McCown referenced that married life diverted his football attention too much.

Joe’s glad King noted McCown starting for two or three years. Joe’s leery of the possible alternative.

89 Responses to “McCown Was “Great Athlete, Bad Quarterback””

  1. Buchead407 Says:

    Shouldn’t be able to talk about quarterback play if you can’t bend over and pick a football off the floor

  2. biff barker Says:

    King said…..
    “What’s interesting is Josh got an opportunity that not a lot of guys get in this league. A lot of guys come in and they’re talented, but they just don’t get it. They can’t quite pick up the system. And, you know, they go to one or two teams and it doesn’t work and then they’re out of the league.”
    ————————————–

    Is he talking about Freeman or McCown?

  3. unbelievable Says:

    What does Shaun king know about quarterbacks?

    ….

  4. bucsandducks Says:

    “So hopefully he’s ready to take what he did last season, in a short sample size, and turn it into a productive two or three years as a starter.

    ”It looks like Shaun needs to stick to the “Sample Size” menu for a while.

  5. lightningbuc Says:

    Where’s Tampabaybucfan with his King disclaimer that BuccaneerBonzai loves so much?

  6. pablo Says:

    Pablo doesn’t like you guys disrespecting Sean King he was the first QB to take us to the promise land.

  7. sharkcoasttactical.com Says:

    All y’all internet bullies need to stop bashing the man about his weight. I cant sell my xlarge t-shirts because everyone in FL is too fat. The majority of men over 30 are FAT hello. Buncha butthurt internet bullies

  8. I like food too Says:

    How can he be critical of an ex teammate that is still playing when he’s not. What got him out of the league, mental aspect or team buffet?

  9. flmike Says:

    @sharkcoasttactical.com
    I’ll be 50 next month, 6’1″ 160lbs, I ain’t fat….

  10. unbelievable Says:

    Sean Kind didn’t take us anywhere. That was our Defense.

    And “promised land” would (read: should) mean the SuperBowl, not just a playoff appearance.

    His best year was 18 TD – 13 INT. Why does anyone listen to him? Because he’s an ex-player who can speak somewhat eloquently so he automatically get’s a job as an “analyst”…

  11. unbelievable Says:

    *King

  12. Theodore Says:

    Why is there a picture of Warren Sapp?

  13. Barry Says:

    “One time I was with Cannon in the back of a pickup truck, along with a live deer. Cannon goes up to the deer and says, ‘I’m Mike Cannon! SAY IT!’ Then he manipulates the deer’s lips in such a way as to make it say, ‘Cannon’ … It wasn’t exactly like it, but it was pretty good for a deer!'”

  14. Orca Says:

    pablo Says:
    May 29th, 2014 at 12:54 pm

    Pablo doesn’t like you guys disrespecting Sean King he was the first QB to take us to the promise land.

    If you love SHAUN King so much, you should probably learn how to spell his name, especially when it’s spelled out for you, ya know, inside the article.

  15. Louis Friend Says:

    Josh McCown isn’t who he was 10 years ago, nobody is. The question we all have was whether a half season of work overrides the previous decade of frustrating performances. I don’t have an opinion, but I believe players can improve and mature. I also believe that mirages exist, and fairy tales too.

    Nobody in the NFL knows how Josh will do. The Bucs don’t either. Just like us, they’re HOPING he can repeat his performance. That’s it.

    Remember, this is a guy Lovie cut in 2011 or 2012. If he believes he’s suddenly found his way, great. But I wouldn’t expect him to keep starting him if the results don’t back it up.

  16. Kalind Says:

    Shaun King needs to lay off the criticism of QBs. He needs to pull a page out of Grudens playbook. “He’s great, love him.” Cause anything else sounds like sour grapes

  17. Harry Says:

    You know I do have to say that if L&L view McCown in the same light that King is saying, THIS is one of the few scenarios that makes a bit of sense about the entire QB position. Sorry, I really don’t buy that The Cannon is the future; but he is a very good backup at a cheap price. MG8 can come in and get the job done as a backup. And this would explain why McCown has only one year guaranteed. If L&L are wrong, they can cut him loose. Also explains why no QB was drafted this year.

    Maybe this is the plan.

  18. Orca Says:

    Should I be surprised at Joe’s choice of headline? Like instead of choosing King’s positive remarks, namely, “he looks like a different player from the guy I was with in Arizona,” Joe decided to drop a turd on McCown, which is what Joe does… And then Joe pretends he doesn’t have an agenda. Astounding. Joe can’t claim there’s “no spin”.

    Joe will leave your insulting post to illustrate how you don’t understand what “agenda” means and to expose your ridiculousness There’s no turd on McCown here, just a balanced assessment by his ex-teammate. How dare Joe share the commentary of a former QB who spent a season alongside McCown. Joe has shared numerous positive assessments of Glennon and McCown. The archives are here for all to see. –Joe

  19. Nick H Says:

    Lol Shaun King. How much does he really know about a guy he played with a decade ago, much less being a good QB.

  20. Jaydid Says:

    Oh, I see… skinny people are just better people. You can tell the commenters here are such quality human beings…we all should be like them and spew hate.

  21. Shawnbucfan Says:

    This critism comming from the guy who couldn’t beat him out for a job. So that makes Shaun King what ?

  22. abdominal snowman Says:

    Lovie said himself he would keep 3 qbs if his #3 was one of the best 53. Apparently Josh wasn’t one of those 53 in 2012, only keeping 2 and making room for Jason Campbell instead.

    Now 2 years later he is anointed our starting qb. I know Lovie knows him but how much better can he be now than he was when he got waived?

    I truly believe he is intended as a stop gap and if anything it showed his lack of trust in placing this team in 2nd year QB Glennon. I love my Bucs and everything they’ve done with the hire of Lovie and all our transactions. I trust their decision and hope McCown tears is up and makes the pro bowl but nothing in his past indicates it will happen.

    I see McCown as a game manager(nothing wrong with that, its a QBs job to do) that will be a leader with his experience and be a solid starter for us. A lot of variable s and 50/50 balls will ultimately decide what kind of tenure he will have with the Bucs.

  23. Captain Stagger Says:

    35…5’7 165…..just sayin…..

    Jared lorenzen, Jamarcus Russel, and Shaun King walk into a bar…..

  24. Bobby Says:

    @sharkcoasttactical.com

    I’m 60 years old 5’11” and 179 lbs. I work out with 235 lbs and bench 8 sets of 10. I do 30 minutes on the elliptical machine at 170+ strides per minute on level 4. I curl with 35 lb free weight dumbbells. I do tricep presses with 220 lbs in sets of 15. I can still see my stomach muscles when I take my shirt off. King used to be a pro athlete. I’ve never been a professional athlete, I work out for one reason and one reason only. I just don’t ever want to look like Shawn King. The dude is extremely fat….end of story. That’s not being a bully, that’s just stating the obvious.

  25. mark Says:

    Pablo….. Sorry he was not the first QB to get us in the play offs.

  26. theDON Says:

    Pablo, – just dumb

    King has a problem with self control. That dude was a scrawny QB out of college.

    Now he is fat and happy giving his opinion about QBs that are better than he ever was.

  27. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    biff barker Says:
    “Is he talking about Freeman or McCown?”

    That sure sounds like Freeman. McCown is an eleven year veteran.

  28. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    lightningbuc Says
    Where’s Tampabaybucfan with his King disclaimer that BuccaneerBonzai loves so much?

    shhhh! You just had to go there!!!!! 😉

  29. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Let me just say…I’m fat…or fluffy.

    To me, King is fat, fat.

  30. lightningbuc Says:

    Bonzai,

    Looks like you finally dodged the bullet on a Shaun King thread for once!

  31. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    If you painted King blue he would crash thru walls and yell “Oh yeeeeahhhhhh!”

    (yes, that is a koolaid ref)

  32. Joe's Liver Says:

    oww…… please stop drinking Joe

    anyways, why are you obsessed with King and his play? he was a garbage QB, just like you are garbage at running a site

    So lasting several seasons in the NFL at quarterback for multiple head coaches means your opinion is worthless. Only the greats of the game know the game and have valid opinions. By your logic, Lovie Smith has no business coaching since he never accomplished that much on the field. –Joe

  33. stratobuc Says:

    This is such great comedy. Thanks for the laughs, Joe – after the sadness of yesterday it was welcome. I guess now we can get back to some serious football talk, rather than the ramblings of a washed-up never-was gas bag.

  34. Kramden Says:

    Is that a real photo of Shaun? Or is someone playing with Photoshop? C’mon!

  35. Louis Friend Says:

    Is anyone on this site sold that McCown is the answer at QB for this team? If so, why?

    Shaun King’s weight is beside the point. I’ve had my weight fluctuate wildly in my lifetime. I’m now fairly normal, but my perspectives weren’t any different thin or fat. Give the man a break.

  36. BoJim Says:

    Bobby Said:

    “I’m 60 years old 5’11″ and 179 lbs. I work out with 235 lbs and bench 8 sets of 10. I do 30 minutes on the elliptical machine at 170+ strides per minute on level 4. I curl with 35 lb free weight dumbbells. I do tricep presses with 220 lbs in sets of 15. I can still see my stomach muscles when I take my shirt off.”

    You animal you.

  37. Back, from Davie Jones Locker Says:

    49- 6’4 1/2″-140 lbs. No wait,
    49- 6’4 1/2″- 240lbs. No, that’s still not right
    49- 6′ 4 “. – 3 . . .

    SharkCoast( love your site, by the way)
    What sizes do those shirts come?

    Geez, I’m shrinking and swelling! What kind of middle age Curse is this!!!
    Damn you, drive thru convient food!!
    I’m 40 lbs over my playing weight! I can’t fit in my old jersey- even without shoulder pads!!

    Ah, what the hell! I’m still a handsome devil!
    Shaun King is fat. But he does occasionally hit the nail on the head.

    Captain Davy Jones agrees with Pablow.
    You guys keep making fun of Shaun, and he will dip your ass in honey mustard sauce- and eat you. Whole.
    Especially you lil skinny guys!!

  38. OAR Says:

    Living in a country where obesity is on the rise and skinny jeans are becoming a fad…. I fear for the future!

  39. sho nuff Says:

    orca check yourself this site is pure opinion and clique based….trust me if glennon or McCown do the charity golf tournament for the poodle you will get a MUCH different vibe…them’s the facts…freeman was dust until he did it and is still getting a pass to this day….

    So foolish. –Joe

  40. Oil Derrick Brooks Says:

    “Is anyone on this site sold that McCown is the answer at QB for this team? If so, why? ”

    I dunno. I want to see him and Glennon fight it out. He might be Gannon 2.0. But, my biggest problem is most of the same people who are being critical of either of the QBs or the Gm and coach are mainly the same people who defended Dominick year after year, and/or defended Freeman year after year.

    The reality is we don’t know. A great deal depends on the Tedford mystery.

    And unless those same people who now criticize McCown, Glennon, and LoveLicht were also complaining about a Dominick managed team before they played they played a single game (first game was vs. Dallas 21-34, Loss), maybe we can all just give these guys a shot?

    Because if you (not you specifically Louis) thought Dom or Freeman were good whatsoever, you might not be the greatest judge of what’s actually good.

  41. biff barker Says:

    Fat, like being ignorant, is a choice.

    As for King’s commentary, I’m not seeing the big issue here. While McCown had a few good games last year, for the most part he’s been a pine jockey. It’s well documented.

  42. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Better late than never…..here goes!!!!

    “Shaun King, one of two Buc Quarterbacks that lost a NFC Championship Game when his defense gave up 11 or fewer points.”

  43. Kevin Says:

    It’s easy to see who actually read this article and who just read the title and assumed they knew what it was about……

  44. KMAC1322 Says:

    This is interesting because I have heard Kurt Warner, who was light years ahead of small hands King at QB, say that McCown taught him so much about how to be a successful NFL QB, when he went to Arizona….Warner was praising McCown last year when he was starting for Chicago and stating that McCown has the potential to be this successful for years ahead because he is in great shape, knows the game and he has weapons around him. Now, that was last year, but I feel the Bucs have done an excellent job of supplying him with enough weapons to be successful.

    But this is what I have come to expect from King, he will forever bash every QB and every decision the Bucs make.

  45. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    @ Bonzai

    You can blame that one on lightningbuc…..and I know, “have you ever known one of those guys who tells the same joke over and over again?”…..but…my disclaimer isn’t a joke, its a fact!!!
    I will try to put up a “BONZAI WARNING” post next time….

  46. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Louis Friend Says
    “Shaun King’s weight is beside the point. I’ve had my weight fluctuate wildly in my lifetime. I’m now fairly normal, but my perspectives weren’t any different thin or fat. Give the man a break.”

    You have to understand, King set himself up for it.

    His rookie year went pretty darn good. He earned a starting role. But he showed up the next season severely overweight and out of shape. He took his position for granted and it really cost him his career, because he never got a chance to start again.

    He was viewed as lazy. To this day he has done nothing to dispute that belief.

  47. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    @Tampabaybucfan

    Its fine, lol. At least you got Joe to stop saying his line a few times.

  48. biff barker Says:

    KMAC,

    “But this is what I have come to expect from King, he will forever bash every QB and every decision the Bucs make.”
    —————————-

    Not exactly, King was all over resigning Freeman and was also a staunch supporter of Rah.

    I don’t have any personal hate for the guy, but can’t say that I put much stock in his opinion either.

  49. Architek Says:

    If anything the segment pointed out that Josh has a rate opportunity that many qbs don’t have and he has an opportunity to do something good!

    Very simple.

  50. biff barker Says:

    Memo to the Buc faithful…..

    Fat’s OK if you can play like Warren.

  51. Mike Plaskon Says:

    Maybe double size Shawn King should slow dow with the sandwiches.

  52. Back, from Davie Jones Locker Says:

    I can guitar like Warren Zevon!
    Still good?
    “Ah oh, Werewolves of London! Ah oh”

  53. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    @ Bonzai

    You noticed

    I don’t know if it was my consistent counter/disclaimer that affected Joe or not but he did change it this time to:

    “The man who led the Bucs to the NFC Championship game after the 1999 season”

    I choose to do this and usually don’t join in on the “fat” jokes….sometimes I just can’t help myself though because it is incredible to see an ex athlete….in particular one that is on air….let himself go like King did.

  54. lightningbuc Says:

    TampaBayBucFan,

    You were late to the party today. Sorry Bonzai, I guess I woke up the beast!

  55. Ghost Says:

    JC is he on a saturated fat only diet?

  56. bucrightoff Says:

    Shaun King should train professional eaters rather than spread his football “knowledge”. Oh and I and anyone on this site takes that 1999 team to the NFC title game with that defense. 1 TD allowed in 2 playoff games, and even that was an absolutely perfect pass? King should thank God every day he got to be the QB of that team.

  57. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    @ lightningbuc

    Bonzai will be OK….my stuff is mild compared to Pablo!!!

    How ’bout Pablo? Everyone is saying prayers….wishing Malcom RIP….condolences to the Glazer family & Pablo is asking if the ownership change means Bucs will have to relocate….
    Either Pablo has major cajones or he’s very slow (perhaps both)….a dangerous combination!!!

  58. Matt B Says:

    @Pablo

    I typically like your comments but Doug Williams was the first QB to take us to the “promise[d] land” if an NFC Championship game is even that.

    If King couldn’t beat out McCown when McCown was “bad” then King is calling himself really, really crappy.

  59. Joe Says:

    If you love SHAUN King so much, you should probably learn how to spell his name, especially when it’s spelled out for you, ya know, inside the article.

    Same with Ronde Barber. So many Bucs fans claim they worship Barber, yet have no clue his name does not contain an “h.”

  60. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    @ Matt B

    You are absolutely correct….1979 at the Sombrero….in the rain….Bucs lost 9-0 to the LA Rams….TBBF was there….Pablo probably wasn’t born yet….and from the looks of some of his posts…probably is still not quite amoung us!!!

  61. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    @ Matt B

    The third person TBBF was for Pablo!!!

  62. Red86 Says:

    Just because Shaun King wasn’t a hall of fame qb doesn’t mean he can’t provide valuable input about qb. Most head coaches and assistance coaches wasn’t exactly the best in college. Many didn’t play past the college rank yet they are NFL coaches.

    Heck Wienke help Cam Newton play better as well as trained other QBs. His career was over quick after a great college career. These busts and average NFl players know more than many of us about technicality football. Saying one play is like ordering food for 30 people without the menus to read it.

  63. Back, from Davie Jones Locker Says:

    Hopefully, I’ve gained Biff Barkers approval.
    Me, I’m ok with Shaun King’s statements here. Several others have said that McCown lost focus, when he became a family Man.
    He can now, hopefully, focus and live up to his potential.
    At one time, he was considered a tremendous prospect.

    I don’t mind Shaun King being Fat. I’m ok with chubby to blubbery people.
    I hate the short ones. Any male under 6′ pisses me off.
    And women under 5′
    It just makes me start humming that Randy Neumann song,
    “Short People”

    Lol! If we are gonna hate people for their appearance- let’s leave no stone unturned!- especially not all you lil munchkins!!!

  64. OAR Says:

    Pablo is the kind of guy that stops the microwave at 1 second just to fell like a bomb defuser.

  65. Joe Says:

    Pablo is the kind of guy that stops the microwave at 1 second just to fell like a bomb defuser.

    🙂

  66. bucstop.com Says:

    Pablo….try Doug Williams

  67. Andre Says:

    Do you say King lead the Bucs to an NFC championship sarcastically? Because I think you’re forgetting the defense that took us there..

  68. Oracle Says:

    Shaun spent quite a few seasons watching one of the greatest qb’s of all time, I think it is safe to assume, despite what he did or didn’t do in the league, that he knows what to look for in a quarterback.

  69. NewTampaChris Says:

    Josh McCown was the best of a bad lot of free agent QBs. There is no way we get to the halfway point of the season with no calls for the backup, whoever that might be.

  70. PRBucFan Says:

    I can’t wait till the crow starts getting served when McCown picks up right where he left off last year.

    And believe me his age or his past won’t even be a thought in your heads when he’s proving to be every bit the QB he was last year again.

    After all, fans tend to have very short memories in those instances lol.

  71. Joe Says:

    I can’t wait till the crow starts getting served when McCown picks up right where he left off last year.

    Hope he throws for 6,000 yards and is leading the Bucs to the Super Bowl.

    Joe is sober and honest.

  72. Brandon Says:

    Orca Says:
    May 29th, 2014 at 1:16 pm
    pablo Says:
    May 29th, 2014 at 12:54 pm

    If you love SHAUN King so much, you should probably learn how to spell his name, especially when it’s spelled out for you, ya know, inside the article.

    ===

    Beat me to it… but does anybody else get the feeling that slamming Pablo is a little like child abuse? I seriously don’t think he’s even a teenager yet.

    Oh, and it’d called the “promiseD land”, Pablo, not “promise land”… and no, he wasn’t the first Buc QB to lead us there, Doug Williams was and he was as far better QB than King.

  73. csidedave Says:

    I am getting nervous. We should have signed Freeman to that 18 mil per year extension like Shaun wanted a year ago.

  74. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    “Joe is sober and honest.”

    But….Is Joe honest about being sober?

  75. J 2.0 Says:

    Glennon has the potetnial to be the game 1 starter. The writing is on the wall and the narrative has changed.

    Step 1: Don’t let Glennon come into the offseason expecting to be the starter.

    Step 2: Sign a veteran QB and name him the starter. Will light a fire under Glennon and make him work even harder.

    Step 3: Let the speculation begin that you want to move on from Glennon, rumors fly about drafting a QB early and potentially trading Glennon. Stoke the fire under him for more results.

    Step 4: Don’t draft a QB at all and don’t trade Glennon. Announce Glennon as the QB of the future, slightly opening the window for a possibility for him to earn the job. He continues to work hard.

    Step 5: Allow veteran QB to take 1st team reps in OTAs, all while Glennon begins to share a few of those reps further opening the window.

    Step 6: Praise Glennon for a good camp (if he follows through and has one) and give many compliments, but still stick to the McCown starting QB narrative. Fire is raging under Glennon now.

    Step 7: Before training camp praise Glennon further (if he earns it) and hint that the starting QB job may be up in the air. McCown continues to take 1st reps, but is giving way to Glennon more often.

    Step 8: Glennon performs well in 1st preseason game, gets more playing time in the 2nd game. Fire is too hot at this point.

    Step 9: Glennon gets the nod in the 3rd preseason game. If performs well say “We may re-evaluate the starting Qb situation.”

    Step 10: Make the Change if, and only if, Glennon succeeds at all of these steps, and name Glennon the Starting QB to lead the 2014 campaign.

    As a guy who works in management, when a guy is outting himself out there for a promotion, a lot of times I won’t give it to her or him the first go round to see how they react.

    Am I the only one who sees it this way? Seems obvious to me, and everyone else is being ignorant to the facts.

  76. Bucfan#37 Says:

    Shaun seems bigger every time another picture appears on here. I’ve heard of the biggest loser, not the biggest gainer. Fat people love to eat.

  77. buc4lyfe Says:

    Lol wait wasn’t Shaun king his backup haha how easily we forget. Didn’t mention that part but atleast he talked with confidence, yes mccown was a career backup but Shaun king couldn’t even do that Much in the league

  78. Back, from Davie Jones Locker Says:

    J 2.0
    Wow, that’s a nice lil short story you’ve dreamed up for Glennon. Took so time to Fantasize all the way to Starting the season!
    Did you keep this up, all the way to him winning the SuperBowl?
    . . You weren’t near any petroleum based lubricants, during this lil self indulgent day dream- were you?
    You might be a sick lil puppy. Are you Short?

    In any of these Fantasies, did Glennon
    A) show up on the second half, and do ANYTHING to help the team win the game?
    B) accomplish the most rudimentary offensive accomplishments- to get the wretched offense out of last place in the League??

    Just wondering. Because that pencil Skinny statue didn’t do either one of those things!! Despite the “fantasy scapes” presented by the
    MGK! ( Mike Glennon knobberslobbers )

  79. Architek Says:

    Dude does look bigger each screen shot

  80. Lt. Commander Data Says:

    There are about 20 starting QB’s that are far better options than McCown or Glennon. This is a 9-7 team at best if everything on the defense pans out like we hope. Need to find a legitimate QB for the future.

  81. owlykat Says:

    Shawn King had the smallest hands of any Bucs’ starting QBs and cost us games with his fumbling. He was only good enough to be a backup like Glennon but was erroneously made a starting QB that exposed his lack of starting talent and sent his career into a downward spiral. I respect the analysis by the last Arizona QB in the SB. But I take King’s analysis with a grain of salt.

  82. White Tiger Says:

    Apparently – unlike Mr King – Josh McCown may have been learning something over the 10 years he’s been in the league SINCE he and Shaun King were last with the Cardinals…

    Also, it looks like NFL offenses are evolving to appreciate someone with Josh McCown’s particular attributes – almost at the exact moment he had an opportunity to start and showcase what he could do if he had the right talent around him.

    We’ll see.

  83. freeballin34 Says:

    Wasn’t the koolaid man red? Whether it is McCown or Glennon starting doesn’t matter I believe. I’m confident either one can lead us to a playoff berth.

  84. Surf Buc Says:

    Freaking love this thread. Thanks for the much needed laughs!

  85. Back, from Davie Jones Locker Says:

    Surf Buc- no problem! It’s the off season- not much going on, so we are using the down time to for a lil off season training!

    And yes, the koolaide dude had RedSkin
    And as a redskin, he is now classified a racially intolerant Mascot.
    So- I believe calling Shaun King the Koolaide guy may be Racist.

    I’m not sure- but somehow I think we’ve made progress.

    It’s a great age we live in! You can always find something that you are being persecuted for! The age of Sensitivity- we are all pissed off about something somebody said!!

  86. Sapp, STFU Says:

    Don’t have time to read all of the replies so apologies if it repeats.

    Being crowned the starter too early is not a sign of your complete skill. We’ve seen many QBs get drafted and pushed into the line light too early. If take an experienced journeyman over a rookie starter any day (except maybe Luck).

  87. Bill Wheeler Says:

    Amazing so much time given to any comments made by Shaun King….I cannot believe WDAE gives him air time and almost fawns over him….I turn off the radio when he comes on.

  88. J 2.0 Says:

    Back, from Davie Jones Locker

    Everyone knows from Mike Williams, that the offense has 4 passing plays last year. Probably had more, but coaching was to blame for the offenses faults.

  89. James Says:

    and we care what Shaun King thinks because?????