Lovie Enjoys Offense
May 10th, 2014
“Who said I don’t like offense?”
So in the first draft of the Lovie Smith era for the shot-caller of the Bucs, the defensive-minded Bucs coach oversaw a draft that consisted of nothing but offensive players.
Now that might say something about the prowess of former Bucs rock star general manager Mark Dominik, or the inability of former Bucs commander Greg Schiano to coach up a defense.
The leader of the Bucs seemed to infer the draft says more about him than anything.
“What can I say?” Smith said after the Bucs selected their final player of the 2014 draft. “You can’t assume people are a certain way. I do believe in offensive football. You just can win by just playing defense. I know I have been telling you guys that. I think that, now, the actions are speaking a little bit louder than the words.”
Naturally, when it came to offense, the topic du jour is backup quarterback Mike Glennon. Thusly, Lovie was peppered with questions about Glennon. Lovie stated he has been impressed with Glennon more as he got a chance to know him, work with him and watch him practice.
Said Lovie, “We like Mike Glennon and Mike has an excellent future in this league.”
May 10th, 2014 at 6:08 pm
“Now, that might say something about the prowess of former Bucs rock star general manager Mark Dominik or the inability of former Bucs commander Greg Schiano to coach up a defense.”
HAHA that’s funny Joe, I laughed almost as hard as when Manziel slipped down to a team who took him because a homeless dude told the Browns ownership to do it. Thank you Schiano for drafting Buccaneers face of the team, future franchise QB, I got your career backup right here Freemanites, Mike Glennon. Lovie Smith approves this message
May 10th, 2014 at 6:11 pm
well, i was 100% wrong on all my draft predictions and expectations. More or less happy with all draft picks. My biggest disappointment is Glennon being on roster still.
curious what two running backs that won’t make team. Demps (track star) not football player will get hurt or beat out. My guess is James will be odd man out since Lovie has been speaking very highly of rainey lately. Martin and Sims are top two unquestioned. bringing in Herron removes any chance of Demps moving to slot receiver. I still don’t believe in Glennon and think he is nothing more than a smart back up.
I do like the top 4 receivers now we got way better. Vjax, Evans, Herron and Murphy far superior to last years receivers including when Williams was healthy. I like Williams but Evans is a clear upgrade.
Should be very interesting Undrafted free agent bidding war for some draftable players that did not get drafted.
Lovie going all offense who would have thought.
hopefully the mediocre quarterbacks will not be the Achilles heel of the team and prevent a solid season.
May 10th, 2014 at 6:13 pm
Said Lovie, “We like Mike Glennon and Mike has an excellent future in this league.”
May 10th, 2014 at 6:17 pm
It’s definitely time to support Mike Glennon. I’m shocked we didn’t draft a QB, but if Lovie and Licht like Glennon, that’s good enough for me (for now at least). They apparently agree with many of you that he didn’t have enough weapons to be effective. Hopefully it plays out where they are right and Glennon becomes a stud. I’m a bit skeptical, but I’ve been wrong many times before. This is one time I’d absolutely love to be wrong. One thing is for sure: our two QB’s sure as hell can’t complain about not having enough weapons. If Evans is the read deal, we might all get to witness a potent offense in Tampa! We’ve all waited long enough.
May 10th, 2014 at 6:17 pm
Lovie also said Revis was not going anywhere and fit perfectly in his defense.
May 10th, 2014 at 6:20 pm
Please… Please… Quit the whining about us not drafting a QB…Maybe next year for that…but we are done..,
May 10th, 2014 at 6:21 pm
“Mike has an excellent future in this league.” Notice how he didn’t specify with the Bucs. You might want to take notice to that, ToesOnTheLine. I’m pretty certain that Glennon’s future in TB is still uncertain. I could see the bucs trading Glennon for a real Quartback, Christian Ponder. Minnesota has not been kind to him or any other QB for that matter. Ponder would add great depth to the roster. We want Ponder!
May 10th, 2014 at 6:21 pm
Probably means see what he can do this year and if he doesn’t impress with added weapons he can find that excellent future on another team. Again most Mob members wanted the guy to get a fair shot to compete based on some very good things he did. He has more talent and another year, so if he truly stinks next season like the Hate Squad says then I’m sure none of us will say keep him. My money is on him improving in every facet of his game.
May 10th, 2014 at 6:23 pm
““We like Mike Glennon and Mike has an excellent future in this league.””
What team?
May 10th, 2014 at 6:23 pm
The MG mob was right. He must have been very impressive when lovie snd Redford worked with him at that pre draft mini camp.
The doubters like me should whipe the slate clean with the kid and see him operate under the new system with added weapons.
As for Lovie any thought he would ignore the offense has been rendered ridiculous.
May 10th, 2014 at 6:24 pm
Tedford….
May 10th, 2014 at 6:24 pm
Hope I’m not braking a rule here. Below is an older post of mine today. It is posted in response to the further demeaning of our quarterback of the future (Lovey’s words not mine, although I agree with him). These continued concealed slurs will not make you the best liked mike and pen person around ! Buc Place. Don’t be a Donkey!
“@ JOE May I respectively ask, where is the new drafted quarterback? I sincerely hope the Tampa bay bullies (I’m sorry, I should have said, the mike and pen club) will lay off and respect our players on the roster and give Lovey a chance to show us what he can put on the field.”
Joe roots for the Bucs when the whistle blows, all Bucs (minus Jerammy Stevens). –Joe
May 10th, 2014 at 6:27 pm
Well, if Mike is our future, time to support him. I was hoping for a little more talent at the position, but that’s not gonna happen so go get em Mike. You have tools now, use your smarts and put them to good use.
May 10th, 2014 at 6:29 pm
Well said, Eric
It was a great draft.
And if Coach believes in Glennon- then count me in!
Best I’ve felt about this team in many years.
Go Glennon, Go Bucs!
May 10th, 2014 at 6:32 pm
Between the free agent signings, and this draft- I think our new GM has done an outstanding job
May 10th, 2014 at 6:37 pm
@ Eric
Props, not easy for some to take the high road and admit it. In all honesty I believe Glennon has talent to be a Flacco/Ryan kind of guy with good schemes, coaching, and talent around him. If he proves me wrong after next year than I will man up and admit I was wrong as well
May 10th, 2014 at 6:39 pm
we had to get tall players because our future qb is inaccurate on deep balls. receivers have to stop and jump. also, his fluttering deep passes are atrocious for a professional qb. but that has to do with receivers or oline….nope. he sucks.
May 10th, 2014 at 6:44 pm
Ponder for Glennon??? Makes no sense at all. Why trade a back up for a back up?
May 10th, 2014 at 6:48 pm
I am truly happy with this draft class. I did not get the QB I wanted for the team, and I am still not sold on Glennon but never wanted him cut/traded (I liked the idea of his as a backup, still do, I also wanted a QB of the future to eventually start ahead of him), I still think McCown is going to be the starter this year and possibly next. This could all play out well for the team in all respects. If Glennon plays and plays ok this year, we could trade him (with value) if we draft a guy next year. If Glennon doesn’t play, we can draft a QB next year and use either QB to “mentor” him. I think it could only add value to whichever QB we choose to move on from down the road being the QB of an offense with VJ, Evans, Herron, Wright, ASJ, and Martin, Sims.
If I were to grade it out on initial reaction, Evans = A+, ASJ = A+, Sims = B, our 2 O-linemen = C (don’t know how they’ll turn out, but at least potential depth at a very thin position), Herron = A. Total Grade = A.
I don’t see how teams will be able to prevent us from moving the ball and controlling the clock when we can play jump ball with 4 guys 6’4″ or taller against their DBs, of which I would venture none are that tall and only a couple are even over 6′. Home run type threats in Sims and Herron keep a D from stacking the box and Martin will love having 2 TEs and still not having to face an 8 man box.
May 10th, 2014 at 6:57 pm
Nobody denied his lack of weapons but Glennon is Tbd
May 10th, 2014 at 6:58 pm
CHRISTIAN PONDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YOU OWE ME A BEER HUNTERBUCSFAN FOR THE ONE I SPIT ALL OVER MY WALL WHEN I READ YOUR POST
May 10th, 2014 at 6:58 pm
Count me in with everyone pledging their support for Glennon. I always felt at minimum, he deserved a chance to compete for the starters job. I think he played well under less than ideal situations last year. But be sure, he has to play and win to keep fan support. I know it won’t and it shouldn’t be given to him. Go Josh! Go Mike! Go Bucs!
PS: I refuse to join the Mob, but I’ll be rooting from the stands! lol
May 10th, 2014 at 7:02 pm
Lurker,
Let’s wait and see what Glennon can do in a balanced offense with talent around him.
He had little chance to step into his deep throws last year. Agree that area of his game needs to improve drastically.
May 10th, 2014 at 7:03 pm
HAHAHA Ponder?!?
That idea is almost as terrible as Sanchez. Good thing L&L have brains between their ears.
May 10th, 2014 at 7:03 pm
Christian Ponder? Huh?
May 10th, 2014 at 7:09 pm
The demise of Mike Glennon was greatly exaggerated!
May 10th, 2014 at 7:11 pm
Eat CROW JOE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
May 10th, 2014 at 7:16 pm
Mike is our backup QB….lets move on…next year is next year…Lets wish McCown great success!!!
May 10th, 2014 at 7:17 pm
Solomon Patton is signing with us as a UDFA according to Cummings
May 10th, 2014 at 7:24 pm
Lovie was more than happy to oblige the media and fans by allowing them all to believe Glennon was in danger. It served his purposes. The anti-Glennon mob was used as a bunch of tools, which they are, to let others around the league believe Glennon was on the outs and the Bucs would draft a QB.
Lovie used and abused the anti-Glennon tools and then hung you guys out to dry. How’s it feel, suckers?
May 10th, 2014 at 7:27 pm
Man some people on these boards live a distorted reality.
May 10th, 2014 at 7:30 pm
I’m not sure where William is tonight, but….
Connor Shaw could still be coming to Tampa
May 10th, 2014 at 7:31 pm
Glennon was solid with the worst talent in the league around him imagine what he can do with some weapons.
May 10th, 2014 at 7:31 pm
Who cares about the back up at this point. McCown is the starter and the offense has some real weapons along with a huge upgrade in coaching on both sides of the ball. If Lovie trades Glennon I’m ok with it. Glennon can’t get out of his own way under pressure.
May 10th, 2014 at 7:33 pm
Don’t watch ESPN or NFL Network unless you want to hear about only one player.
May 10th, 2014 at 7:39 pm
William with Connor Shaw and somebody kept talking about Brett Smith out of Wyoming. Since we’re talking undrafted guys I’d like to see the Bucs take a look at Brandon Coleman…WR…(wait for it)…Rutgers 🙂 Hey why not try him out, it would make for entertaining news if nothing else.
May 10th, 2014 at 7:40 pm
UDFA’s:
-Antonio Richardson OT
-L’Damian Washington WR
-Jackson Jeffcoat – DE
-Loucheiz Purifoy CB
-Marcus Roberson CB
-Anthony Johnson DT
PLENTY of talent to be had
May 10th, 2014 at 7:40 pm
LOLOLOLOLOLOL
LIGHTNINGBUC
There is a shaw void isnt there
May 10th, 2014 at 7:44 pm
Would love Purifoy. He’s an excellent CB. Apparently stupid though, he just got busted doing something, can’t remember what it was. Most likely the reason he went undrafted Excellent talent though.
May 10th, 2014 at 7:51 pm
We’re tools because we’re not ready to annoint a guy that started 13 games (9 of which he lost) without turning in one spectacular performance? He never once took over a game; sorry to brake it to you. Another TD pass or two in any of his starts probably gets a win. But he never capitalized on the chances. Until he does, all us “tools” have a right to be skeptical.
May 10th, 2014 at 8:12 pm
We’ll said Ted^
May 10th, 2014 at 8:26 pm
My only concern with Lovie as coach has been his track record with offense. His defensive track record is pretty much unquestionable, his offensive track record is rather bad. So to fully commit an entire draft to offense is very encouraging and suggests he did learn that he doesn’t need a Saints or Packers type of offense, he just needs a good offense that can put 3 TDs on the board a week. His defense will be there, we know this. Now we can feel more confident the offense will be there too.
May 10th, 2014 at 8:45 pm
@ BamBamBuc, so three A’s, a B and two C’s= A? What is that, Flintstone math? 🙂 I agree though, I think the Bucs get an overall grade of A for this draft.
May 10th, 2014 at 8:56 pm
Anyone know why Antonio Richardson was not drafted. At one time he was projected late first- second round.
May 10th, 2014 at 8:58 pm
Remember MG* plus VJAX -Doug Martin-mike Williams-Mike James+Tim Wright etc. scored 19.5 points per game (254 pts in 13 games), against the 2nd hardest schedule in the league.
If the addition of ME + ASJ + CS+ revamped line adds only THREE measly points a game, the new Bucs offense would rank 19th, a tiny bit behind the Panthers.
If the addition of those same players adds SEVEN points a game, the new Bucs offense would rank in the top ten in the league.
What a great draft. Kudos aplenty for L & L.
Even if you are not a charter member of the MGM like me, then you honestly believe that Josh McCown is better than MG8. This should make you feel even better.
tickrdr
May 10th, 2014 at 8:59 pm
Look at the evolution of the Offensive Depth Chart
Start 2013>>>>>>>>>End of 2013>>>>>>>Start of 2014
QB: Freeman/G >>>>>>>> Glennon/O >>>>>>>?McCown/Glennon
WR: VJax>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>VJAX
WR: Williams >>>>>>>>> Underwood >>>>>>>>> Mike Evans
WR3: ?????? >>>>>>>>> Owusu/Dawson?>>>>>> ?Tim Wright/Sims/?
TE: Crabtree/Byham>>>>>>Tim Wright>>>>>>>>ASJ/Wright/Meyers
RB: Martin>>>>>>>>>>James/Rainey>>>>>>>>Martin/Sims/James/Rainey
OL: Released or traded 3 of 5 starters>>>>>>Dotson, Meredith, 3 FA’s, two picks, plus future FA signings, ?Nicks
HC and OC: you get the picture.
How can we not be better. LOTS better.
Last two points:
1) our overall schedule should be easier than last,
2) of those 51 QBs drafted in the first round over the last twenty years, nearly three out of four IMPROVED their career QB rating compared with their rookie rating. MG8 should improve too with more coaching and experience.
tickrdr
May 10th, 2014 at 9:22 pm
Let’s be clear, this is not an endorsement of Gllennon as much as it is a commentary o. The quality of this QB draft class. NO team (except Jacksonville ) picked a QB high. Cleveland had the picks to gamble of Johnny Football. Everybody else was not impressed with the whole class. The Bucs had all the QBs in, but didn’t take one. I trust their judgement. Especially when THE REST OF THE NFL felt the same way. If there is a ver cut loose, he may land in Tampa.
May 10th, 2014 at 11:18 pm
3 weapons 6’5 or taller nothing else needs to be said #welldonel&l
May 11th, 2014 at 4:32 am
Eric Says:
May 10th, 2014 at 6:23 pm
The MG mob was right. He must have been very impressive when lovie snd Redford worked with him at that pre draft mini camp.
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Glennon will always look good in practice. Glennon’s concerning issues mostly had to do with his play getting far worse in crunch time. Glennon consistently played poorly in the last 5 to 10 minutes of a game… Hopefully that was just a bad OC, O-line and rookie yips.
May 11th, 2014 at 9:54 pm
Why are people still talking about trading glennon and drafting a qb next year? Lol get over it glennon is ur qb. No way we draft qb again for awhile unless glennon starts next year n really stinks it up.