“He’s Got A Freaking Cannon”
May 30th, 2014
Bucs C Evan Dietrich-Smith loves the big gun that backup QB Mike Glennon possesses.
Earlier this week, Bucs center Evan Dietrich-Smith dropped in to discuss all things Bucs with Vic Carucci during a segment of “Movin’ the Chains,” heard exclusively on SiriusXM NFL Radio.
EDS is excited about the upcoming season and thinks the Bucs have a good shot of winning the division. But he got very excited when the subject of backup quarterback Mike Glennon came up. EDS could barely contain himself.
“When you talk about Mike I think the first thing I think about when I see the guy is that he has a cannon,” EDS said.
“I mean, coming out of college, I saw some of the draft stuff and seen some of the throws. But you watch the guy in person, the guy has a freaking cannon for an arm. I think he is still developing and having Josh come in, he will learn how to be a pro, how he needs to approach every game, how to go through the week, film study, all of that kind of stuff, making the right decisions on the field, how to carry himself off the field to be more prepared.”
Now Joe understands how EDS is geeked for Glennon, but Joe has to get something off his chest. Last year when Glennon took over, all Joe heard about was how back-line-challenged veteran Dan Orlovsky and Josh Freeman were helping Glennon learn the nuances of playing quarterback in the NFL.
Well, to hear the Bucs now, Orlovsky-Freeman must have really been some kind of a mook. It’s as if Glennon has never put on a jock strap yet in the NFL, to hear current Bucs players and coaches, and needs to be spoonfed. We’re talking about a guy who started 13 games for crying out loud! More games than Josh McCown the past five seasons combined.
Was Orlovsky-Freeman trying to Pearl Harbor Glennon so they could be promoted to starting quarterback? Were they that dense that whatever they were tutoring Glennon on was completely fouled up? Or did those two simply not know any better?
Sometimes, the way people prattle on about teammates “mentoring” backup quarterbacks, it’s a wonder Team Glazer even pays for a quarterback coach to be on the payroll.
As for the Bucs’ chances of a postseason birth, here is what EDS had to say:
“Any team can win a division. Everyone is good in the NFL. Some are just stacked more. In this division, we definitely have a shot. The division champs are coming to your house right off the bat. We have to set the tone. We will find out what kind of a football team we are right of the bat. I don’t see a problem coming after these teams.”
May 30th, 2014 at 8:11 am
Wait a minute All the cry babies around here say Joe only publishes negativity about Glennon and spins everything anti-Glennon. Those with a reading level over 3rd grade know that’s a lie, but it should be fun to see what they do with post. It’s not like this would have appeared anywhere else online …
May 30th, 2014 at 8:19 am
I respect EDS and if he says the guy got pop on his arm then it is what it is. It’s about time we get some confident players that wanna win and know how to win and stand up for their guys – he certainly know more about football than all media and is fans.
#knowyourole
May 30th, 2014 at 8:19 am
Cannon? I guess but he can’t throw outside the numbers or the ball lands 10 feet out of bounds. Anyone remember all those passes? Ever wonder why all the deep throws ended up being down the middle of the field so the receiver had enough room to run under it. our beloved back up QB of the future is completely immobile and has no accuracy beyond 5 yard dump offs to the tight end. This is one of those guys NFL people love, they look great in practice and training camp but put them in a game and they crumble under the pass rush. This guy is going to be another Chris Sims.
May 30th, 2014 at 8:20 am
I think you answered your own question…. He was learning from Josh Freeman and Dan Orlovsky. One who wants to pose as Michael Jackson and one whos remembered for running out the back of the endzone. Thats pretty bad company
May 30th, 2014 at 8:23 am
Who made you a SME or football expert Bannon???
Surely you have more football experience and NFL exposure than EDS.
May 30th, 2014 at 8:24 am
Well, when the QB coach has never played or coached a down in the NFL, perhaps learning from a vet isn’t so bad? Arroyo is here to help with the nuances of Tedford’s O (I’m assuming).
As for Orlovsky, he taught Glennon not to run out of the endzone (learn from your mistakes). Freeman is still a student, clearly. He’s in no position to teach anyone.
@ Keith
Subtract out the positive quotes from Dietrich-Sims in the article, then reread it. The inference is not what I would call a positive one. The implication is that either Orlovsky and Freeman are mooks (quite possible), or that Glennon is being spoonfed, and is learning from someone who has started less games. (Because if you don’t start, you clearly don’t learn anything about being a pro, amirite???)
You tell me, is that positive?
May 30th, 2014 at 8:24 am
Orlovsky can mentor on how to run out of the back of the end zone. Freeman, well….where’s the NFLPA investigation at again? Anyone? Bueller?
May 30th, 2014 at 8:27 am
Joe this permanent ad banner across the bottom of the screen on my mobile really sucks! Are you also unable to prevent this from happening?
May 30th, 2014 at 8:28 am
Mike Glennon and all GBs can look good when the hits are not coming and the game isn’t at full speed. Mike’s biggest issues are:
Footwork in the pocket
Holding onto the ball too long
Far less accurate when going deep
I don’t expect the footwork to get much better this year, not behind our oline (if he starts). He can improve dramatically in the other two things. Both are timing-related.
Part of the accuracy with going deep is getting accustomed to the speed of the starting WRs. That may be hard for him to do this year, because McCown will need the starting reps.
May 30th, 2014 at 8:31 am
Hey! Wait a minute. Is that a wheel off the cannon? Is there some journalistic symbolism going on here? lol
May 30th, 2014 at 8:33 am
@bucrightoff,
That’s my point – the regime was a joke 2008 through 2013. No one will question Lovie and his staff’s football accomplishments and credibility.
Freeman was and is a Jackwagon, arguably the worst pick we have ever made, next to Sabby the GOAT and App State DJax.
Orlovsky was ummm yeah.
Leftwich was a failed experiment.
Doesn’t reflect on Domink 100%
May 30th, 2014 at 8:36 am
Architek Says
“Who made you a SME or football expert Bannon???”
Bannor is right. And his statements did not contradict the article. Glennon does have a cannon. His accuracy DOES need to improve…as does his timing.
And do we really have to dig out examples of where you disagreed with “pros?”
May 30th, 2014 at 8:38 am
Josh Freeman never put in the time, That goodness Boomer Esiason ( national media) reported that years ago. And Orlovsky only looked like he knew what he was doing, because he stood next to Josh Freeman.
May 30th, 2014 at 8:40 am
DallasBuc Says
“Joe this permanent ad banner across the bottom of the screen on my mobile really sucks! Are you also unable to prevent this from happening?”
Go into your browser settings and under Privacy & Security clear your history and cache. This also fixes the redirect issue.
May 30th, 2014 at 8:46 am
The_Buc_Realist Says
“Josh Freeman never put in the time, That goodness Boomer Esiason ( national media) reported that years ago.”
Not true. Boomer reported the “rumor”, but it was not accurate. Freeman held private camps for the players every year but his last and was well known for his long hours at One Buc…again, until his last year.
Something changed for Freeman that last year. He had actually improved the year before. Amd he always had a good attitude and work ethic. It was jusst his last year that the problems arose.
So stop trying to revise history.
May 30th, 2014 at 8:46 am
@Bannor
Did you ever actually watch Chris Simms play? He had exceptional deep ball accuracy. And nobody knows if he was accurate or not on short-intermediate throws because they all got batted down at the line of scrimmage lol.
Anyways, I think Joe put a bit too much speculation into this. I don’t think Dan Orlovski and Josh Freeman tried to “Pearl Harbor” our future cannon, but they just sucked lol. Josh McCown has been lauded thus far for being an excellent mentor and EDS is just kind of highlighting that.
Also, anyone find it ironic that EDS refers to Glennon’s arm as a cannon? Considering the local media discussion on that precise word recently I find this hilarious, whether it was intentional or not. And that’s from someone who was a pre-draft Manziel cheerleader, not an MGM’er.
May 30th, 2014 at 8:48 am
All mentors aren’t alike….they bring different perspectives.
I recently posted this but very few saw it.
I think the problem for Glennon was primarily the coaching…not the weapons….that coupled with not really being ready to start.
Recall how Schiano was about fumbles/turnovers? I believe he absolutely throttled Glennon to the point that Glennon took no chances….he went to his checkdowns too early, threw the ball away and took sacks. That coupled with very predictable playcalling was a prescription for failure.
You can add that many times he didn’t throw downfield to recievers that appeared to be open.
Let’s see how better coaching, some mentoring and more experience will bring to Glennon’s game.
May 30th, 2014 at 8:48 am
Keith,
Hey I’d rather read Joe’s honest take or opinion on a guy thats actually on our team, than him drooling over JF the past 5 months.
oh and huked on phonix werked four me!
May 30th, 2014 at 8:51 am
Bonzai- I am using an iPhone not a PC. Any other suggestions?
May 30th, 2014 at 8:53 am
@Bonzai,
Who can predict if MG will be Chris Simms? Point is, The kid needs time to develop and he needs coaching/mentoring to teach him approach and how to be more consistent.
You all can’t tell me – as I stated above – who was qualified since 2008 to mentor him???
And yes I also said Lovie and his staff Football prowess is superior to ANYONE in the past 5 years!
As far as me disagreeing with experts – media don’t qualify as experts sir. My biggest arguments is and always have been the prior regime ability to build a team and all their experiments failed except GMC and David. Mike Williams pay day, Mike Clayton payday, Ward, Myron Lewis, Leftwich, please feel free to keep me honest 😉
As I stated, EDS knows more than any of us and so does L&L – 4-12 is not good with me and unlike some of you I am good with change and I have no choice but to trust the new regime.
May 30th, 2014 at 8:55 am
All mentors are not alike….each brings something different. I am sure that Glennon learned from Freeman and Dan O….and is learning from McCown.
As for his coaching…that is a different matter…
Schiano was a tyrant when it came to turnovers….this certainly had to affect Glennon’s game….avoiding turnovers at all costs.. perhaps Schiano is why Glennon….
Took sacks
Threw the ball away
Went to checkdowns too early
Overthrew deep recievers (rarely underthrew anyone)
Perhaps recognized potentially open recievers but was reluctant to take a chance
That coupled with poor/predictable playcalling coud have had significant negatives to Glennon’s game.
Lets see what some time, mentoring & better coaching will do for him.
As for the “Cannon”…I think it’s there if it is allowed to fire!!!
May 30th, 2014 at 9:00 am
I highly doubt josh freeman taught glennon much
May 30th, 2014 at 9:01 am
TBF – ^^^^^^^ – That’s Bottom line
How can anyone use Dominik tenure as a legit baseline?
May 30th, 2014 at 9:03 am
This is really unfair and wrong!!
I have never seen a kid who has and is doing everything right be done this way by the media. Especially here in Tampa
He is the type of guy you should be rooting for.
May 30th, 2014 at 9:04 am
Well, to hear the Bucs now, jfro 6 pack Jackson was a pansy a$$ moron and worthless as a team mate and they are happy as hell to have a guy who’s not ashamed to learn while not be a being threatened.
Fixed it for ya. 🙂
May 30th, 2014 at 9:04 am
@Bonzai
“So stop trying to revise history.”
You have no more proof than anyone else. Unless you can prove definitively that Boomer was wrong.
Fact: Boomer first reported this in October 2012.
Fact: Freeman himself said in October 2013 that he had been in the drug program 18 months at that point. Meaning, roughly early 2012.
Fact: Freeman’s massive weight loss was first reported in May 2012.
Fact: No one truly knows why he was suspended, despite his claims of ADHD meds. The NFL is unable to confirm or deny what the positive test was for due to the collective bargaining agreement.
Bottom line is it’s unproven either way. You believe want you want, so will everyone else.
May 30th, 2014 at 9:11 am
Seriously what a joke….Freeman had a cannon and it was as obvious to see as him being inaccurate, nothing he did last year screamed cannon.
Joe you watched off-season workouts this year right, did you see anything that suggested he has a stronger arm
May 30th, 2014 at 9:12 am
@Oil Derrick Brooks
Bonzai’s only info on how Josh Freeman work was from Dominick. and Dominick was out of the building before 5:00, Just ask Warren Sapp
May 30th, 2014 at 9:16 am
@Realist
And I quote:
“How Can a General Manager That Leaves Work Everyday At 4pm! Hire a Head Coach?? #HireAFriend”
May 30th, 2014 at 9:16 am
Fire the cannon, then fire the cannons. Touchdown baby! Go Bucs!
May 30th, 2014 at 9:18 am
Interesting note from Tedford- Concerning TE groupings
“To be able to be in different personnel groups, especially with tight ends on the field, and still have ability to run your offense and run a spread game and be able anchor the edges down and still be able to run the ball,” Tedford said, “really, that’s what you’re looking for.”
He envisions lining up his tight ends not only alongside a tackle, but in the backfield or split out wide. A run-heavy offense that ground down the clock and wore out defenses.
Sounds like either QB would be affective running this style of offense. Also makes you wonder if we’ll be adding an additional TE as an insurance policy.
May 30th, 2014 at 9:19 am
effective
May 30th, 2014 at 9:22 am
That first drive of the first game last year told us what we needed to know about Freeman’s ability to prepare for a game properly. Pretty sure that Glennon didn’t glean anything from that guy. Add to that the quote from Schiano that QBs at the NFL level don’t need coaching then it stands to reason that this kid is still essentially a blank slate.
May 30th, 2014 at 9:25 am
The decision to go in development mode with Glennon is not that surprising when you consider the facts that he is learning new mechanics and a new offense.
May 30th, 2014 at 9:29 am
Oh please, Joe. You like to say you have nothing against Glennon and how you wish him thw utmost best in the future. Reading things like this, that is a load of crap. If you saw the same team I saw last year, you would be aware of the absolute clusterf*ck the position of QB was.
What I’m saying is, there was no botchery by Glennon and Orlovsky. Only pure incompetence by players and coaches alike. Orlovsky is probably now on to his second line of work and Freeman is lucky to have a job (let’s see how long that lasts). And these are the clowns that are supposed to refine a guy who will take their job? Don’t get me started on the roster that Glennon had to work with that was gutted like a fish by L&L.
And now Glennon is supposed to be a wily professional who, after 13 games, has no excuses to not light the world on fire this year. Believe in the process, Joe. Glennon has it all there upstairs and I’m expecting we will be pleasantly surprised by letting him be “spoonfed” for a bit by professionals.
May 30th, 2014 at 9:32 am
@tbf
You must have been watching a different game than the rest of us, vjack constantly had to stop and comeback for the ball, he had ZERO sideline accuracy and the way i see it he’s only the guy who threw a late sideline pass that put Doug Martin out for the season, Nevermind how idiotic of a coaching staff we had to throw deep balls to the smallest but on the field anyway. This year he does have a clean slate, Schiano was a bumbling idiotic and surely made players adjust to his scheme instead of adjusting his scheme to the players and maybe i hate Glennon because of Schiano but I’m hoping he’s a better qb this year, if he is a franchise qb them he did improve in the off-season
May 30th, 2014 at 9:33 am
As for the Bucs’ chances of a postseason birth,
_________________
Is it a boy or a girl? #berth
Sorry, couldn’t resist being a smart ass!
May 30th, 2014 at 9:44 am
Of course, what would EDS know about QB’s and their arms…after all, he was only Aaron Rodgers center.
May 30th, 2014 at 9:48 am
B…come on…you don’t know Josh didn’t try to teach Glennon how to “moon walk”.
May 30th, 2014 at 9:56 am
buc4lyfe
“You must have been watching a different game than the rest of us, vjack constantly had to stop and comeback for the ball”
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That is an outright lie. Only a few times did that happen last season, and honestly some of those passes could have been attributed to the timing on those designed back shoulder throws that happen to be a huge part of their game last year.
Stop the hatin’
May 30th, 2014 at 9:57 am
LUV,
Just an observation. I know nothing about these guys, but on 5/21, the Bucs signed TE Cameron Brate and TE Ian Thompson. Looking at lots of TEs for some reason.
May 30th, 2014 at 9:58 am
He either did some work in the off season to improve his arm strength OR he is a practice superstar. It is also possible that his severe understhrows were due to being a terrible judge at distance.
Anyone think to give the guy some glasses or at least get his eyes checked?
May 30th, 2014 at 9:59 am
“We’re talking about a guy who started 13 games for crying out loud!” says Joe.
Let me remind you of the scenario Joe.
1) The coach – Schiano
2) Who does Schaino dislike? – Freeman (with some good cause for friction)
3) Did Schiano like Orlovsky? We really don’t know the answer to that one.
Glennon is a smart kid. Knowing and seeing how Schiano was… would you emulate Freeman or stay as vanilla as possible when it came to Freeman’s teachings? So do I think Glennon is starting from scratch this year when it comes to having a QB mentor? Absolutely!!! Remember… Schiano and Freeman must be taken into consideration before you answer…
May 30th, 2014 at 10:04 am
Erm didn’t someone pass on the message to EDS that the Big Dog has spoken on this issue and Glennon does not have a cannon?
May 30th, 2014 at 10:06 am
Hard to mentor from the press box.
May 30th, 2014 at 10:09 am
If EDS says Glennon has a Cannon, he should know, coming from Baltimore and Joe Flacco.
May 30th, 2014 at 10:23 am
Glennon is so bad 6 NFL teams approached Licht for a trade.
May 30th, 2014 at 10:41 am
EDS must be lying. I trust the people that defended Freeman as our franchise QB more Glennon has a noodle arm. Licht and EDS need to learn how to evaluate a QB….
GO Freeman! Or GO Manziel!
May 30th, 2014 at 10:45 am
I think we can all agree that Mike Cannon is a super star in the making.
May 30th, 2014 at 10:54 am
TBF…you are absolutely right. Those who say Glennon under threw V-Jax last year, go back and watch the tape. On those throws the defender was between V-Jax and the end zone. The smart thing to do is throw the ball so V-Jax has to come back to it. Now, if V-Jax has the defender beat and the ball is under thrown then it’s intercepted but not if V-Jax is in front of the defender. Sometimes things aren’t as they appear when you actually look at the tape and the position of the receiver and defender. It’s like having a 6’5″ receiver and then complaining because all the throws were high and he had to jump to catch them over the top of the defender. Don’t be stupid. A reception is a reception and some throws are by design because of where the defender is in relation to the receiver. Just because a ball is under thrown doesn’t mean it was a bad throw. Doesn’t mean he didn’t under throw a few but some were under thrown on purpose and resulted in completions.
May 30th, 2014 at 10:54 am
i’m not sure a player has learned everything they can about being a pro by the middle of their first full offseason. if it takes 3 years to break out as an NFL WR according to conventional wisdom, then i don’t think you expect an young QB to be at his peak 13 months into his career. i would discount his starts on account of the amateur coaching, it was basically high division I football inside the building
May 30th, 2014 at 10:57 am
Joe….. Not putting words in your mouth, but you made the comment about micro managing of Shiano yesterday. Do you not think that is why Glennon was so slow to throw the ball? I mean the kid threw 30+ in each season he started on a bad NC State team. Just curious how you came to this conclusion?
May 30th, 2014 at 10:58 am
Good. Let him learn from a real veteran. If McCown plays like last year I believe we would have a shot at winning the division. However, I’m thinking more of second with a wild card spot.
May 30th, 2014 at 10:59 am
I mean the conclusion of Glennon being a good back up and nothing more? The kid seems to make the best out of bad situations.
May 30th, 2014 at 11:01 am
That is an immobilized cannon.
May 30th, 2014 at 11:03 am
Freeman still sucks
May 30th, 2014 at 11:16 am
LOL, YUP! Thank you Mr. Brooks!
Glad to see MG8 getting love. Go Glennon Go!
May 30th, 2014 at 11:29 am
@SAMCRO
Lol an outright lie huh only happened a few times huh…first of all we had the worst offense in the league. Secondly it only happened a few times because he barely threw deep balls, he’s called captain checkdown for a reason. For all his perceived skills why is it people want to forget him throwing over 40 passes in a game and still ending it with under 300 yards, with vjack and Mike Williams on the field plus new target Tim Wright. Why Joe said said himself Glennon has played more gamed than mccown in his last 5 year’s combined, who sits a cannon on the bench in favor of a career backup use your head
May 30th, 2014 at 11:43 am
I’ve learned to look at the people who thought Josh Freeman was good, by taking the opposite of their opinions on QBs.
May 30th, 2014 at 12:16 pm
There are a few of us on here that think the Bucs drafting got better under Schiano-Dom than before Schiano. I am one of them of those fans. LVD, Martin, Barron ( who I think is going to break out this season) in 2012. Banks ( who’s supposed to be an ideal fit for Lovie) Spence and Gholston look like they could be solid players too.
So if you are one of those fans that was impressed by the Schiano-Dom drafts. You have to believe that Glennon truly will become a good QB, regardless of what you saw on the field (excuses or facts) and all the turmoil surrounding the team last season.
I’m not saying Schiano is a QB expert or anything either. I’m saying that drafting improved under Schiano. Glennon was one of those players that was selected by Schiano. He was right about a few other players in the draft so far.
So far he was right about Glennon too. The new HC loves Mike Glennon as well. Something MANY of you thought could never happen. Hell some of you are STILL in denial over it. Some of you think it’s to hype up his trade value. Those people could be right, but so far they have been wrong when it comes to this kid.
I’m closing with this. When all the Glennon bashing started, I went around and read as much national analysis on the kid as I could. Pre-draft and during the season analysis. Some of you would be laughing at how many times you see the words strong arm or cannon to describe Glennon before he was drafted. It’s been known for quite some time even before he was even drafted that he does indeed in some scouts eyes have a “cannon”. The word was used a lot is all I’m saying.
May 30th, 2014 at 12:19 pm
Hey. I’m all for Glennon sitting behind McCown for a while. I also think he is the future. He made the best out of a bad situation last year. Didn’t hear him complain or bad mouth anyone. Give the kid a break.
May 30th, 2014 at 12:20 pm
ODB…when it comes to me and Freeman. Keep in my mind the #1 reason I was on the Freeman bandwagon last year. It was because I thought Schiano’s staff could fix him. I believed Schiano was going to drag the “good” Josh out of him and the staff would fix him.
Boy I was way off.
May 30th, 2014 at 12:39 pm
ODB,
If Joe, Duemig, & Shawn King’s opinions were realized we’d be strapped to a Long Term Freeman contract about now. How’s that for an alternative ?
Not exactly accurate at all. The record is out there. In addition, by your silly revisionist logic, Joe, Duemig and King weren’t in favor of drafting Josh Freeman. –Joe
May 30th, 2014 at 12:52 pm
@87
I get it. There was always hope. I just think there’s some hurt feelings from a few people who were big Freeman and Dom fans. The same people who give those guys chance after chance, won’t give Glennon or the new regime a fraction of the same.
For record, I’m not claiming I know less or more than anybody. I just think it’s bit hypocritical to not give the new regime a shot first before getting out the pitchforks, especially when to this day, people make excuses for Freeman.
Whether it’s McCown or Glennon, I just want improvement. If not, they’ll get another guy. But, damn, people, be consistent.
The absolute best is the guy handing out “D” grades to Licht already. It doesn’t get funnier than that. I would bet that Dom might still grade higher to him. LOL.
May 30th, 2014 at 1:00 pm
There seems to be so many pro personnel people on the site. I am not one, but I will say if your name isn’t peyton Manning, Eli Manning, or Andrew Luck, as a quarterback in the NFL you should probably ride the pine for a year or two. I have seen to many quarterbacks come into this league and fail because they were pressed into service too quickly. I am not a member of the MGM, I believe he has some good qualities and he can make most of the throws, I say the Bucs are doing the right thing by giving him time to develop. Remember arguably the best quarterback in the league even sat for three years Aaron Rodgers. If the pack felt he was ready to take over for Favre right away, he would have, they gave him time to develop, I think a great move. And no, I am not comparing Glennon to Rodgers, you can’t always rush these guys.
May 30th, 2014 at 1:16 pm
@Macabee
FB Jorvorskie Lane half brother is TE Jermichael Finley. They also played with each other growing up, and also were on the same AAU basketball team during their teen years. Makes you wonder who ‘mystery team’ – that didn’t want to be mentioned-for a private workouts is.
May 30th, 2014 at 1:17 pm
Makes you wonder who the ‘mystery team’ – that didn’t want to be mentioned-for a private workouts is.
May 30th, 2014 at 1:26 pm
ODB..yes there was always hope. Freeman did flash potential more than once. Even Couch Fan would have to atleast admit that. I think that’s what the number 1 problem some Buc fans have with Mike when they compare Glennon’s non flashes to Freeman’s flashes of potential. I don’t think Glennon flashed any “potential” or atleast not as much as the roller coaster Freeman did.
So that’s where I’m at with these anti Glennon folks. To them Freeman showed flashes of “potential” and Glennon showed none. Freeman never took the Bucs anywhere with his “potential” and since Glennon showed no “potential”, surely Glennon won’t them anywhere if Freeman couldn’t.
Do you think I’m on to something? There are fans that saw those flashes of potential and hoped for great things from Freeman. Some even expected it to happen, like me. I’m just willing to overlook all that for different reasons than just “potential”. Many different reasons that have been stated over and over again on this site. I’m not going to re-outline them again either. This is a lot of typing for me right now.
I am now part of the MGM. McCown had better step up and play his veteran ass off or it’s bring in Napolean and let’s hope he plays like dynamite. Then we can smear it all over many peoples faces. Radio hosts as well.
May 30th, 2014 at 1:37 pm
Joe(s) is/are just trying to torpedo Glennon. In a similar way Bubba the Love Sponge did to Dilfer. Suck it up Joe. He is here and is part of the team so we should actively support him until such a time when he is definitively proven to be ineffective. At this time we cannot say he is ineffective.
Joe seems not to like the fact that he is not a “playmaker” (i.e. able to make plays with his legs) like his dreamboat is. The “playmaker” has a better shot of making an immediate impact in this league due to being able to improvise while he learns the game. Pocket passers do not have that luxury. They need to know the intricacies of the game right away meaning they need to be developed. Glennon was thrown to the wolves, ill prepared and he did an admirable job given the circumstances. The circumstances being one of the worst locker room drama’s ever to unfold. Joe doesn’t like to recognize this fact. Neither does he like to ponder what effect this circus may have had on a rookie pocket passer’s development. To prove my point Joe likes to refer to the 13 games Glennon started as a rookie and compare that to the years and years of experience McCown has had and suggest that the 13 games with terrible coaching while playing in an awful circus environment is more than enough time to develop and is even a better opportunity than McCown has had with all of his years of experience. “For crying out loud,” right Joe!
It makes perfect sense given the environment last year to bring in a guy like McCown to set the example. Not necessarily in performance but the standard of how to QB a team in this league professionally. An example Glennon did not have last year and given the circus it is very smart on L & L’s part. When Schiano got here he had to discipline Rah’s team. Now Lovie needs to loosen a tight team that had been through too much drama.
I would love to have a QB who is both a playmaker and pocket passer. However, I am going to be fair and say there are some pretty good pocket passers in this league, right? Usually the best ones are and most had ample time to develop if their father was not a HOF QB. Does Joe(s) have an issue with the way Bellicheat develops QB’s. I think not. How would Bellicheat develop Glennon? I cannot say for sure but it isn’t too hard to extrapolate.
May 30th, 2014 at 1:38 pm
This offense is going to have plenty of toys for the kid Cannon to play with. Have fun out there Mikey. It’s a whole new ball game now kid. You’ll have weapons now. Enjoy your new toys Mikey. Have fun kid!
May 31st, 2014 at 1:00 am
a “canon” in practice, that wilts under pressure, to “party popper” in a game.
May 31st, 2014 at 7:27 am
A few months ago Joe posted an article on how MG8 had low velocity on his throws at the scouting combine. It’s hard to believe that he has such a canon but no power behind his short throws? I still haven’t really see this canon last year. I saw him hit Underwood in stride twice on deep balls (Det, NO) and VJ once (Car). Other then that I saw VJ making a lot of good adjustments. I am rooting for him he hasn’t show enough yet.