Trading Mike Glennon
April 26th, 2014
Former Bucs TE and BSPN yakker Anthony Becht would select Central Florida QB Blake Bortles (and his model girlfriend) at No. 7, and trade backup QB Mike Glennon.
Joe believes this is as obvious as the tan on Rachel Watson after she’s been on Siesta Key for a full weekend afternoon of sun and frolicking on the beach: If the Bucs draft a quarterback at No. 7, it will be a matter of hours until Mike Glennon is an ex-Bucs quarterback.
The Bucs have already chosen a starter and already he has the team eating out of his hand. So if former Bucs tight end and BSPN analyst Anthony Becht were sitting in Bucs general manager Jason Licht’s chair, barring an unforeseen freefall of a couple of studs on the first night of the draft, Becht is going with Central Florida quarterback Blake Bortles at No. 7.
And before the night is over, Becht would ship off Glennon.
Becht, who was pimping his football camp while appearing Friday with Joe’s good friend, “The Big Dog,” Steve Duemig, of WDAE-AM 620, has done his draft research and he explained who he would draft if he was Licht, and the wheeling and dealing he would do.
One of those transactions would be to wave goodbye to Glennon, if Bortles is on the board at No. 7.
“If Bortles is available and I take him, I am trading Mike Glennon and a sixth round pick and hoping to get a fourth,” Becht said. “And here is why I would do that: Because you brought [Josh McCown] in. He was the best available with experience. And he understands how to pass down the knowledge of the game to another player. And if you don’t like Glennon and he is not your guy… I think you make that move and utilize the two seasons that you have McCown.”
Becht explained his top four choices to draft if he were running the show at One Buc Palace: Sammy Watkins, Khalil Mack, Blake Bortles and Mike Evans.
Becht, who wouldn’t touch Johnny Football with a 10-foot pole (smh), stated if the aforementioned four players are not on the board at No. 7, then the Bucs should shop the pick hard and try to trade down.
Joe thinks Becht makes some logical points and his reasoning is well thought out. Joe would be happy with just about any quarterback available not named Zach Mettenberger. Joe knows the LSU product is highly rated by many, but Joe has never been impressed. And he now has a bum knee to along with being a statue of a quarterback.
Mettenberger’s offensive coordinator at LSU, (s)Cam Cameron, has squeezed about all the ability out of him that was available. Joe would be distraught about if Licht called his number at any point in next month’s draft.
April 26th, 2014 at 8:18 am
@joe. It’s Blake not Brian.
April 26th, 2014 at 8:22 am
brian bortles??
April 26th, 2014 at 8:22 am
He’s the best QB in the draft. Its a no brainer
April 26th, 2014 at 8:30 am
Hahaha Glennon is surely better than the great Brian Bortles.
April 26th, 2014 at 8:30 am
Joe Manziel & Brian Bortles………
April 26th, 2014 at 8:41 am
I like Timmy Bridgewater, but I’d be happy with Brian Bortles.
April 26th, 2014 at 8:43 am
And don’t worry, Joe. Once you fix your typo and our jokes are etched in stone, the laugh will be on us. 🙂
April 26th, 2014 at 8:44 am
So any average florida girl with a tan is a model now? I guess so especially since those hooters girls you post everyday are “models” LOL
April 26th, 2014 at 8:53 am
No wonder we haven’t been hearing Bortles name on here the Joe’s thought his first name was Brian lol. But seriously Becht take is very valid he covered and commentated a lot of AAC games last season so he is very familiar with Bridgewater and Bortles which reinforces my take that Bortles is better than Bridgewater.
April 26th, 2014 at 8:54 am
Many are ready to trade Glennon off for another pick. What happened to the talk of a solid backup, but not starter material? Mike, they think you suck. There has’nt been much mention of the Mike Glennon Mob lately. The anti Glennon mob is louder and wanting a QB at the 7th pick. Frigging geniuses abound.
April 26th, 2014 at 9:12 am
there is no mob. it’s made up sensationalism.
but yeah 37……trade the best rookie qb from last years draft for peanuts, brilliant!
April 26th, 2014 at 9:18 am
From what I gather these guys are better than Glennon because they are mobile and have better looking girlfriends. Seems like a good reason to blow a 7th round pick, especially with all those QBs that have won super bowls with their legs.
April 26th, 2014 at 9:18 am
It only takes common logic to assume that if the Bucs hold to the principle that they are going to carry 2 QBs on the 53 man roster and draft a QB in the early rounds that Mike Glennon could be traded. It is a given that McCown will be one of those QBs and its illogical to assume that the Bucs would throw away a draft pick when picks are at a premium.
It is also reasonable to think that they would trade or attempt to trade Glennon before or during the draft to avoid not getting anything at all for him because after the draft interested teams will simply wait until they cut him. The PS is not an alternative because a player has to be cut first and if he has trade value, he will never clear waivers.
The issue is clearly whether they have decided he is not the guy even as a back-up or that the intent to carry only 2 QBs on the roster is firm and will not be changed.
April 26th, 2014 at 9:19 am
*7th pick
April 26th, 2014 at 9:30 am
Unless one of your qb’s is Tom Brady, keeping three qb’s on the roster is probably a good idea.
April 26th, 2014 at 9:33 am
Of course they would trade MG8 for peanuts, they traded Mike Williams for peanuts. They would probably get a 4th without using the 6th. Another team would gladly take him as a backup with potential. The Bucs on the other hand want a mobile QB, not a Statue.
April 26th, 2014 at 9:36 am
IF we take a QB tradeing glennon on draft day is the common sense move. We may not get much, but better than nothing. Eventually a team will say, hey he’s better than this rookie QB we’re about to take, call Tampa! We’ll say thank you very much!
April 26th, 2014 at 9:40 am
Must make some folks feel better about themselves to point out typos. Somebody could come up with a solution for world peace, but they best not spell a name incorrectly. Idiots will be on it like a fly on a turd.
April 26th, 2014 at 9:46 am
“The Bucs have already chosen a starter and already he has the team eating out of his hand.”
Nonsense. He hasn’t done anything yet to warrant this kind of hyperbole. He was named the starter and everyone is happy to work with him because he is a good guy and Lovie trusts him. But this eating out of his hand nonsense is premature at best. No one has ever mistaken the greatness that is Josh McCown for Drew Brees!
April 26th, 2014 at 9:51 am
She’s a model? In california, she’s perhaps an 8. If a california 8 is a model to you, I’m sorry.
April 26th, 2014 at 10:07 am
Joe you say you only write about things that interest you. But since this has not happened and there are no rumors of it happening(other than you) then its pretty apparent that you WANT glennon traded with these asinine articles.
Keep dreaming, no matter how “obvious” it is to you, its not going to happen.
I know I know. You dont hate him, good guy, great back up. Just on another team. Yada, yada.
April 26th, 2014 at 10:10 am
No one has ever mistaken the greatness that is Josh McCown for Drew Brees!
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No but Joe did mistake Freeman for Brees-like… and we seen how that went. The Joe’s judgement is clearly questionable at best.
April 26th, 2014 at 10:15 am
“but they best not spell a name incorrectly.”
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Putting Brian instead of Blake is not a spelling error.
This is an example of a spelling error: Jenny Football or Jon Foosball
This is what happens when a writer spends the last few months writing predominantly about one player – said writer isn’t familiar with other possible picks.
April 26th, 2014 at 10:18 am
So Bri….err, Blake’s girlfriend is California average, not a model, etc.
Who knew so many basement dwelling JBF’ers were married to supermodels?
April 26th, 2014 at 10:43 am
Why do folks come to this site if they don’t like what the writer has to say? Joe’s forum, Joe’s right to say what he wants to. Don’t like it? Go to another Bucs site. Simple stuff really. People never cease to amaze me with their idiocy.
April 26th, 2014 at 10:54 am
pittbucfan…you never cease to amaze me as well. Hey Joe if you ever need a lawyer…
April 26th, 2014 at 10:55 am
Bottom line, this is an offense that will require a QB to be mobile and throw on the run. For a 35 year old, McCown still has wheels; however, as much promise as Glennon showed last year, he simply does not fit the offense that Tedford has been drilling. Now, looking at this year’s crop of mobile QBs, that gives you Johnny Foosball and Brian Bortles, after which there is a huge dropoff in that department. You have Logan Thomas and Brett Smith, but even after two years of development in the NFL the Bucs would be running a major risk in allowing them to run the offense. Likewise, many of the teams in the top 7 do not have the ability the have a top 10 pick sit out a year and would be running a MAJOR risk of drafting Bortles, who is easily the rawest prospect. Here is how I see it going down:
Texans (1) – Freddy Bridgewater – Forget all the nonsense of bad pro days. He is easily the best and most pro ready QB in this draft, as well as representing the Texans’ biggest need.
Falcons (2) – Jadaveon Clowney – You’ve heard the arguments. This trade makes too much damn sense for both teams.
Jaguars (3) – Khalil Mack – Especially with a new franchise QB in the division, to get quality players and generate a pass rush is the utmost need for Gus Bradley’s new team. This is a team that had a great offseason, but are still too much in building mode to roll the dice so early on this years’ QBs.
Browns (4) – Johnny Foosball – The Browns are better than everyone gives them credit for. Brian Hoyer is not the answer and the Browns need a playmaker to get the most out of Josh Gordon, Jordan Cameron, and Ben Tate. Kyle Shanahan, who built an offense around another mobile QB in RG3, is pulling a Joe and is smitten with Johnny Boy.
Raiders (5) – Sammy Watkins – A team full of WR2’s get their WR1. Matt Shaub is only an aging game manager, but this is another team that is in rebuilding mode and needs quality, not a roll of the dice with a top 5 pick on one of the QBs in this class.
Rams (6) – Greg Robinson – Jeff Fischer looks like a genius and picks who can be the best left tackle in the last few years. He may not have a past of drafting o linemen early, but in the NFC West there is no such thing as too much protection for your QB.
Buccaneers (7) – Brian Bortles – Based on the offeason I have seen thus far, Licht is one dude who manages his team with a huge perspective on the future. Only team in the first six picks that can legitimately handle picking a top-10 QB to sit out a year, and that is exactly what Mr Bortles will do as this offense gels and Tedford can figure out what the offense will look like in the NFL. Bortles has the physical tools, mental makeup, and leadership traits to give the Bucs a major weapon at the position. All he needs is some refinement and mentorship from Tedford and McCown.
Now for some more Cuban coffee.
April 26th, 2014 at 11:02 am
Why do folks come to this site if they don’t like what the writer has to say? Joe’s forum, Joe’s right to say what he wants to. Don’t like it? Go to another Bucs site. Simple stuff really. People never cease to amaze me with their idiocy.
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To annoy buffoons like you into telling us that it’s Joe’s forum (which we already know) and that Joe can say what he wants (which we already know) and that we can go to another Bucs site (which we already know). Thanks so much for the helpful info!
April 26th, 2014 at 11:11 am
In Gibsonton she’s an eleven.
April 26th, 2014 at 11:18 am
That made me laugh Eric. She’s an eleven up here in Wesley Chapel too.
April 26th, 2014 at 11:20 am
Don’t trade Glennon unless we get Manziel or Murray. NO TO BORTLES PLEASE!
April 26th, 2014 at 11:26 am
Meh in largo shes a 6 or maybe 7.
April 26th, 2014 at 11:29 am
Select Bortles and you guys better pray we’re not throwing 5 more years down the drain.
April 26th, 2014 at 11:31 am
“If Bortles is available and I take him, I am trading Mike Glennon and a sixth round pick and hoping to get a fourth,” Becht said. “And here is why I would do that: Because you brought [Josh McCown] in.”
I have a different view.
I’m not convinced McCown will last as a starter…especially with a bad offensive line, which its pretty obvious we will have.
Even if we draft a franchise QB, if McCown goes down I would rather play Glennon. Why?
Two reasons:
First, I would not wish to risk my drafted guy,s health until I could beef up the oline
Second, I would want to give Glennon one last shot to prove himself.
Even if he were traded, Jason Licht only acquires picks in the 6th round or later, so it would not be worth it.
Regardless of what anyone thinks and what Lovie said early on, I think they have to keep 3 QBs as long as McCown is the starter.
Besides, making a first or second round QB pick work his way up the ranks is a good idea…and even if McCown and Glennon suck this year, Lovie can tell the Glazers “Hey, I know its ugly, but its a price we pay while getting our guy ready for next year.”
April 26th, 2014 at 11:33 am
Joe points out the McCown is the undisputed starter…which of course means no QB is being drafted at 7. Likewise drafting a QB at all without Glennon already being traded means get ready for a 6th rounder at best as the Bucs have tipped their hand that Glennon will ultimately be released. The Bucs could get a 4th for Glennon right now…except he’s not available.
April 26th, 2014 at 11:37 am
Patrick Says
“Select Bortles and you guys better pray we’re not throwing 5 more years down the drain.”
That would be the gamble with ANY QB taken in the draft…or with any player for that matter.
I could live with Blake Bortles, simply because I think he’ll end up like a Jake Plummer style QB. Plummer threw a lot of picks, but he also scored a lot of points.
It would drive fans crazy, but he would be a winning QB.
April 26th, 2014 at 11:42 am
bucrightoff Says
“Joe points out the McCown is the undisputed starter…which of course means no QB is being drafted at 7.”
I don’t believe that. I mean, you are welcome to, but I don’t. Lovie and Tedford likely went out and got McCown so that he would mentor the QB along for the first 2 years. That’s why McCown only got 2 years. A year to sit the drafted guy, and a year to mentor him as a starter the next year.
And plenty of QBs sit there first year. Only desperate teams start them off the bat.
April 26th, 2014 at 11:46 am
With Bridgewater’s horrific accuracy and Manzel’s Fears of staying in the pocket, constantly frantic and scrambling, throwing with atrocious mechanics, Blake Bortles will surely be taken before the 7th over all pick….
IF (big IF) the Bucs could land Blake Bortles in 2 weeks then the QB position would FINALLY (after SO MANY YEARS) get interesting… Hopefully, if this is not possible the Bucs draft Evans (WR) 7th over all and get Garropolo or McCarron in round 2!
April 26th, 2014 at 12:02 pm
Bonzai don’t you remember Lovie’s tenure in Chicago? He loves, loves, loves him his vets. He’s starting McCown without a doubt. And he knows drafting a QB in the top 10 means controversy. And if its Bortles (local-ish player) or Manziel (national media whores descend on Tampa), you really think McCown is going to start? Lovie isn’t interested in distractions, and drafting either of them, or Bridgewater, at #7 means it’s a guarantee.
April 26th, 2014 at 12:04 pm
And no teams sit QBs drafted in the 1st anymore, let alone top 10. Freeman, Tebow. That’s the list since 2009. And really the Bucs should have just gone with Freeman cause Leftwich was obviously crap. Tebow well he’s not a NFL QB so that’s that
April 26th, 2014 at 12:21 pm
Obviously Bortles can “pull”.
I say we draft him.
April 26th, 2014 at 12:26 pm
Is that Joe’s name after he and Johnny tie the knot?
April 26th, 2014 at 12:43 pm
@Macabee Such a well thought out post will not be tolerated on this site.
April 26th, 2014 at 12:58 pm
And plenty of QBs sit there first year. Only desperate teams start them off the bat.
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Every team drafting in the top half of the draft is desperate.
April 26th, 2014 at 1:16 pm
Some people enjoy being miserable pricks when discussing their favorite team. Nothing is ever enough, the glass is always half empty, and all b1tching and moaning is based on their twisted version of facts even before there’s a chance for the team to perform on the field. Complain complain complain complain complain… mind closed tighter than a crab’s ass…
April 26th, 2014 at 1:21 pm
“And plenty of QBs sit there first year. Only desperate teams start them off the bat.”
First rounders?
Ahhhhhhhhh hell no. Even if they draft one out of the 1st round and McCown starts to slip this season, fans will be screaming from the rooftops for the shiny new toy. I’ll add that I will be the leader of the new mob too.
If they do take a 1st round QB. I’m starting the mob right away, the day after the draft. Ha! Even if is last name is Football.
Evans@7 please.
April 26th, 2014 at 1:24 pm
Bonzai…so what you are saying is that we might have a 5 million dollar mentor on the sidelines in 2015? Hell that’s probably more than the entire coaching staff makes combined, and all for McCown to mentor.
April 26th, 2014 at 1:29 pm
Orca ….many positive fans like Bonzai(big time homer) and me we’re beaten into submission last season. It’s going to take a lot to bring some of us fans back to good. For some “a lot” is an understatement.
I’m the cautiously pessimistic one around here. To me the glass is half full right now.
April 26th, 2014 at 1:47 pm
5 million is not a lot of money for a QB. I dont understand why everyone thinks 5 mil means he is starting. It’s a little more than back up money but not enough that he HAS to start.
They brought McCown here as insurance and to mentor not to be the unquestioned starter. If he happens to be better than everyone else than that is a plus.
April 26th, 2014 at 2:48 pm
Gee, I wonder what GLENNON will look like in 2014 with 1) a revamped Offensive line 2) 1st and 2nd string running backs healthy 3) A revamped and improved defense (not starting on your own 15 yard line or worse) 4) a proven NFL coach in Lovie Smith 5) Anyone other than Mike Sullivan calling plays 6) an entire offseason to study the playbook / watch film. 7) MRSA free 8) Schiano free 9) a bonafide TE starting 10) just because
April 26th, 2014 at 3:12 pm
It finally occurred to me why the local media keeps saying the Bucs will draft a QB at # 7. The Bucs have control over what the local media can say and the Bucs are using them to cause draft day smoke screens.
April 26th, 2014 at 3:33 pm
I don’t understand why #19 was traded for peanuts. I am interested in land with a sink hole.
April 26th, 2014 at 3:35 pm
*golf clap*
Don’t be ridiculous. –Joe
April 26th, 2014 at 4:32 pm
Couch Fan…so what you’re saying is most backups make 5 million a year?
April 26th, 2014 at 5:37 pm
Cool with Borltes and manziel…not so much with Bridegwater.
April 26th, 2014 at 6:35 pm
I say keep Glennon as the back up and let’s see what Lovie’s boy McCown can do this year! Then next year lets look at drafting a first round qb if we don’t think that Glennon is our guy! We need to use this years pick on something other than a Qb! Do you really think trading Glennon and drafting a a qb at #7 is smart??? I don’t think it would be!
April 26th, 2014 at 6:41 pm
Buc1987 Says
“Bonzai…so what you are saying is that we might have a 5 million dollar mentor on the sidelines in 2015?”
Hence one of the reasons I don’t like Licht.
It wouldn’t be the first time the Bucs had a $5million backup.
April 26th, 2014 at 6:49 pm
Buc1987 Says
“Orca ….many positive fans like Bonzai(big time homer) and me we’re beaten into submission last season. It’s going to take a lot to bring some of us fans back to good. For some “a lot” is an understatement.”
Hey! I resemble that remark! 😉
Actually, I’m feeling alright about most things so far, aside from the trades. And I’m not convinced Jason will keep us out of cap hell to be honest.
Jason Licht could win me over by doing the following:
A good draft
A QB in round 1 or 2
Complete a trade and net us better than a 6th round pick
Show he can get free agents that are not injury-prone and not lateral moves
Show next year that spending so much that it won’t cause us to lose key players because he put us in cap hell
Lovie, on the other hand, only has to show me he can build a dominant defense and he isn’t super conservative.
Tedford? I’m not sold on him yet, but he hasn’t had a chance to sway me either direction. All he has to do is show he can build a 16th ranked or better offense.
April 26th, 2014 at 7:08 pm
bucrightoff Says
“Bonzai don’t you remember Lovie’s tenure in Chicago? He loves, loves, loves him his vets. He’s starting McCown without a doubt. And he knows drafting a QB in the top 10 means controversy. And if its Bortles (local-ish player) or Manziel (national media whores descend on Tampa), you really think McCown is going to start?”
Yes I do.
And btw, Lovie had to go with veteran QBs because his first rounder was traded away before he signed on. The trade was for a veteran QB. He had no say in it.
April 26th, 2014 at 7:10 pm
In fact, the Bears traded 3 first rounders away.
And teams do site 1st round QBs. Especially when they go into the draft planning to by signing a vet for only 2 years.
And don’t put your money down on the Bucs taking Evans or Watkins in the first. That history of Lovies you mentioned shows he NEVER drafts a WR in the first round.
April 26th, 2014 at 7:37 pm
And Lovie has never drafted a QB before the 4th round either. So we’ll see if that changes. But Lovie’s history strongly suggests he will not draft a QB at 7. They might draft one later on, but not at 7.
April 26th, 2014 at 8:01 pm
If Khalil Mack somehow falls to #7 he will be the chosen one no matter who is there. We will somehow get our WR and QB in the next two rounds.
April 26th, 2014 at 8:24 pm
Great thinking let’s trade a guy who as a rookie on a crap team had 19 TD ! Outplayed EJ Manual and Geno Smith who were picked above him and given staring jobs. Proven kid with good size and arm !!!? HELLO !!!!!
April 26th, 2014 at 8:30 pm
You’re kidding yourself if you think Mc Cown will after all these years become a productive starter? Dont really have a problem signing him,but named starter already……NOT a good idea….
April 26th, 2014 at 8:50 pm
I agree with Grudenite. I think Glennon can improve and with a defense that can win the field position battle I think he can be effective. No problem starting Mccown and no problem with Glennon backing him up. Just win.
April 26th, 2014 at 9:20 pm
Just using the eye test from last year…why would anyone start Glennon over McCown? (Plus the offense this year is not a scheme fit for Glennon)
At 7 – QB if your guy is there … or online or pass rusher.
April 26th, 2014 at 9:39 pm
Couch Fan…so what you’re saying is most backups make 5 million a year?
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No what I’m saying is, 5 Mil is not “He has to start and its not debateable” type money.
April 26th, 2014 at 9:49 pm
If the mini camp were a marathon, JMac has a five mile lead. Can Glennon catch up? JMac will only feel more comfortable with the offense and playbook. If the Bucs take a QB in the draft, he will be brought along slowly. Tedfords playbook is HUGE. This isn’t Sullivan’s playbook, which only had 10 plays total.
April 26th, 2014 at 10:59 pm
Lovie Smith said
” McCown is our Starting QB”
He said that, after months of reviewing Glennon on Tape.
By saying that, he made it obvious that Glennon is not his man.
Smith and Tedford have both said , they want a QB who is Mobil
(Strike one, MG)
Accurate
( strike Two!)
And has a strong Arm
(Strike 3! Sorry dude)
If Smith thought Glennon had Any chance of Starting, he would not have Crowned McCown. Glennon will be traded or released, despite hisbeing the best of 3 QB turds last year.
Good QBs are made in The 4th quarter!
(Oops, strike 4, invisible boy)
“Leader of the worst offense in the League”, gets you traded to Cleveland Or Oakland- for a 6th rounder and a case of Dead duck decoys- similar to those lobbed up floaters that Vincent Jackson had to stand around and wait on last season. G’bye Mike, you couldn’t play very well- but you had amazing “pull with many QB deprived romantics on JoeBuc! You’ll be inundated with flowers, Candy, and men’s undergarments, as soon as the MGM heats you’ve been traded.
April 27th, 2014 at 12:01 am
Couch Fan…well Bonzai’s saying that McCown we’ll become a back up in 2015 and mentor whoever the Bucs draft in this draft. So you disagree with Bonzai’s assessment that the Bucs will not pay McCown 5 million dollars to back up and mentor the new kid in 2015?
April 27th, 2014 at 3:17 am
Anthony Becht Lets see, a player that bounced around the league , so good that no one wanted to keep him, who defended Freeman on the radio in his downward spiral and who was once a Buccaneer (does anyone ever say for how long? is it possible Glennon will have as many year in here if he starts the 2014 season?). And he is called the voice of authority? Hell, Thomas of old had better copy than Becht.
Glennon not mobile – like a statue in the pocket! Who was his coach last year? That’s right Glennon haters, Schiano. The same man that all you that defended Freeman with the constant drumbeat,”They want let him run”. Then you turn around and criticize Gleenon for staying in the pocket. Makes a lot of sense to dummies who just want Gleenon gone. Are you so blinded with hate you fail to realize both Freeman and Gleenon worked for the same coach,”toes on the line” Schiano? It’s time some of you start thinking with your big head and not your little one.
It’s sorta like Christmas, You go to sleep Christmas eve hoping the morning will find you all kind of new Big Boy Toys and you find you are disappointed again. If Gleenon goes, life will go on but if we don’t pick a new QB this site will burn with disgust all season.
April 27th, 2014 at 12:57 pm
McCown will be somebodies back up, that I am sure about. I think it will be Glennon but we shall see who/if they draft someone else.