“The Elephant In The Room”
April 2nd, 2014
Why is Bucs icon Derrick Brooks talking about an elephant?
Joe assures you it has nothing to do with the obsession of former Bucs captain Davin Joseph. Brooks is talking quarterbacks.
Sitting down with something called the Pewter Panel, Brooks is asked about the Bucs’ next moves and he goes right to leader of the offense.
“The elephant in the room is the quarterback position. You know, obviously signing Josh [McCown] and the length of his contract, some would say that’s more of a bridge, a Band-Aid approach,” Brooks said. “And the long term answer it may be here, it may be in the draft. I don’t know.”
Now that’s not going to make the Mike Glennon Mob or Rich Gannon happy. It seems like Brooks wasn’t completely won over by the 19 touchdown and nine interception rookie performance of Glennon last season. Perhaps it was the lack of wins and the Bucs’ 32nd-ranked offense? Joe’s not quite sure.
In the video linked above, Brooks praised the Bucs’ moves in free agency for not locking the team into drafting any one position early out of desperation. Brooks referenced receiver, defensive end and quarterback, as examples, of potential early draft targets but not necessary targets.
Yes, Joe agrees, quarterback is the elephant in the room, the giant beast of a decision facing Lovie Smith and Jason Licht.
April 2nd, 2014 at 2:04 pm
How bout that kid from Texas A*M? What ‘s his name ?
April 2nd, 2014 at 2:07 pm
He said “I DON’T KNOW”. So if that is supposed to make the Glennon mob unhappy, I guess the same can be said of the Manziel Knob Slobbers.
April 2nd, 2014 at 2:15 pm
Perhaps it was the lack of wins and the Bucs’ 32nd-ranked offense? Joe’s not quite sure.
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C’mon Joe. Clearly Brooks understands that there is no possible way we could win with the 4th and 5th best QB in the Division. Isn’t that what you’ve been telling us all off-season?
April 2nd, 2014 at 2:16 pm
Please just draft Johnny Football and follow my Facebook page at http://www.facebook.com/bringjohntobucs
April 2nd, 2014 at 2:25 pm
The elephant is that joe wont mention the qb all Bucs fans should be praying for is right down I4…..
April 2nd, 2014 at 2:26 pm
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April 2nd, 2014 at 2:26 pm
Joe,
Your boy Freemadonna is the reason for the 32nd ranked offense.
Glennon, in 13 games, had us at the 27/28th range.
Glennon could still be our future, much to the demise of the Freemanites.
April 2nd, 2014 at 2:28 pm
“Brooks said. “And the long term answer it may be here, it may be in the draft. I don’t know.”
It may be here….as in already here Joe. How did that line escape you when you followed up….
“Now that’s not going to make the Mike Glennon Mob or Rich Gannon happy. It seems like Brooks wasn’t completely won over by the 19 touchdown and nine interception rookie performance of Glennon last season. Perhaps it was the lack of wins and the Bucs’ 32nd-ranked offense? Joe’s not quite sure.”
How you translate (spin) some things sometimes is beyond me….
and the MGM say that you have an agenda? Nah, no way never right Joe.
April 2nd, 2014 at 2:28 pm
Shawnbucfan Says:
April 2nd, 2014 at 2:04 pm
How bout that kid from Texas A*M? What ‘s his name ?
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Mike Evans? We already have a Mike Evans type, his name is Vincent Jackson. We need Sammy Watkins stretching the field and being the first true multi level receiving threat the Bucs have ever had.
April 2nd, 2014 at 2:34 pm
Glennon supporters will point to the 19 tds and 9 ints. Glennon haters will point out the dead last offense. The guy actually did alot better than I thought he would. He has alot to work on obviously but I hope he really gets a chance to compete for the starting job. He worked his tail off and I would hate to see him just get traded for a low draft pick or cut. The way Duemig(who I love btw)just belittles him and the ways joes just take shot after shot is just a little baffling. How many qb’s could’ve done better during that train wreck of a season
April 2nd, 2014 at 2:35 pm
If we draft any of the QBs I wont be really upset unless we are still a losing team. We can like/dislike a guy all we want on paper or in pajamas but if the bucs win games with whoever it is…. I think we’ll all like that fella alright.
April 2nd, 2014 at 2:39 pm
6 rushing TDs and 3.8 ypa. That ranks 31st and 26th. Doesn’t rushing account for half of the offense? I don’t recall Glennon taking off on many QB sneaks.
April 2nd, 2014 at 2:39 pm
Speaking of obsessions….
April 2nd, 2014 at 2:43 pm
Nick H…yep I’m sure he’ll be a swell fella as well.
April 2nd, 2014 at 2:49 pm
Whew! I thought I was having flashbacks! That picture looks a lot like a girl I picked up at 3am one morning!!!
April 2nd, 2014 at 2:51 pm
I would not mind seeing the bucs draft manziel either. But if it doesent work out I wont be out of a job lovie and licht will. I hope they do their homework on the qb wether its mcown manziel or some other qb they draft. Lovies a good coach but his track record regarding the offense isnt that great.
April 2nd, 2014 at 2:54 pm
Bucs offense lat season…run.run.throw deep. No wonder our offense sucked it was vanilla and very predictable.
April 2nd, 2014 at 2:54 pm
Yes, because it was all Glennon’s fault that they were ranked 32nd. He was the one who turned off Freeman’s alarm clock, told him the meeting was next week, got him kicked off the team, threw himself to the wolves in Week 4, was the sole playcaller of the run, run, pass, punt gameplan, was the one who couldn’t adjust in the second half, was the one who blew a 21 point lead against Russell Wilson was the one who pushed Geno Smith for a 15-yard penalty, was the one who missed the GW FG at the end of the Saints game, and was not helpful at all on the 3 game winning streak, and also was the sole reason Schiano was fired.
Lol, I’m not even in the MGM, but all this “he led the worst offense in the league therefore he is a bad QB” is nonsense. And the 19-9 doesn’t automatically make him good either. He may not be the answer, but he did a damn good job with the crap hand he was dealt, as a 3rd round rookie no less.
April 2nd, 2014 at 2:56 pm
I like AJ Mccarron in the 3’rd round possibly. He’s a sharp guy I believe with a high potential and very low risk compared to the top 3 1’st round QB’s in this draft. I’d love to have Johnny Football but it is a high risk pick at 7 or sooner. I’d prefer to see Mack, Barr or Matthews with the Bucs’ first pick.
April 2nd, 2014 at 2:58 pm
Do we need a franchise QB, prob yes. Is there a legit franchise QB in this draft, prob not, so we need to take the best player available at 7 and take a QB later in the draft.
April 2nd, 2014 at 3:03 pm
I say we go with Josh McCown who was RED HOT last season when he filled in for Bratty Jay Cutler in a very tough division know as the black and blue division. I think Josh is going to do great things with us, and if we could draft a guy by the name of Sammy Watkins to help him out with VJax and Mike Williams. Holly Cow look out for an exciting throw the ball and go get it style throwing attack along with our new beefed up offensive line”still a little worried about”. But Dougie should come through for us if they can give him the slightest hole in the world. And even if we don’t get Watkins, who is not excited to see if we go defense in the draft to add to our already probably pre-ranked top 10 defense that is going to wreak peoples lives next year!!!!!!!
April 2nd, 2014 at 3:07 pm
Who came up with the term “mike glennon mob” anyway?
April 2nd, 2014 at 3:09 pm
They couldn’t tell you who they’d pick right now if you asked them. It depends entirely on the personnel left after 6 picks, and the direction of the draft if there’s a run on QB’s e.g.
April 2nd, 2014 at 3:22 pm
@zam- It couldn’t have been said any better. It’s all “what ifs” until then. Have fun speculating!
April 2nd, 2014 at 3:26 pm
Glennon= career backup. Draft a qb with higher ceiling
April 2nd, 2014 at 3:26 pm
Joe… you know what you are and so do we! If Jonny does as well as Glennon did, you will say you were right about him and that he is a success! You have no credibility. I hope eventually you go back to reporting and quit campaigning!!!!!!
April 2nd, 2014 at 3:46 pm
Which ever team takes Johnny Football, they are either gonna let him run crazy like he does now or they will try to turn him into a pocket passer. In the NFL I don’t see a scenario where either one will work.
April 2nd, 2014 at 3:51 pm
I had no idea that so many people routinely fail to grasp sardonic and sarcastic expressions, but wow…
April 2nd, 2014 at 4:40 pm
When I saw that picture I thought it was another Donald Penn article
April 2nd, 2014 at 4:40 pm
JT Said:
“Glennon supporters will point to the 19 tds and 9 ints. Glennon haters will point out the dead last offense. The guy actually did alot better than I thought he would. He has alot to work on obviously but I hope he really gets a chance to compete for the starting job. He worked his tail off and I would hate to see him just get traded for a low draft pick or cut. The way Duemig(who I love btw)just belittles him and the ways joes just take shot after shot is just a little baffling. How many qb’s could’ve done better during that train wreck of a season”
Well said. Hey! How bout that Manning guy in the SB this year? Sucked. A little help from the rest of the team might have been cool. Kinda like Glennon.
April 2nd, 2014 at 4:42 pm
WalkdaPlank Said:
“Yes, because it was all Glennon’s fault that they were ranked 32nd. He was the one who turned off Freeman’s alarm clock, told him the meeting was next week, got him kicked off the team, threw himself to the wolves in Week 4, was the sole playcaller of the run, run, pass, punt gameplan, was the one who couldn’t adjust in the second half, was the one who blew a 21 point lead against Russell Wilson was the one who pushed Geno Smith for a 15-yard penalty, was the one who missed the GW FG at the end of the Saints game, and was not helpful at all on the 3 game winning streak, and also was the sole reason Schiano was fired.
Lol, I’m not even in the MGM, but all this “he led the worst offense in the league therefore he is a bad QB” is nonsense. And the 19-9 doesn’t automatically make him good either. He may not be the answer, but he did a damn good job with the crap hand he was dealt, as a 3rd round rookie no less.”
Hey! Stop with the facts.
April 2nd, 2014 at 4:57 pm
Hey Glennon’s ceiling is higher than McCown’s for crying out loud. I’d say Glennon has about a M. Ryan type ceiling. Now it is all guess work but to say that any QB in this draft is hands down more talented than Glennon is ridiculous.
April 2nd, 2014 at 5:26 pm
Mr lucky Says:
April 2nd, 2014 at 4:40 pm
When I saw that picture I thought it was another Donald Penn article
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Looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool!
April 2nd, 2014 at 5:28 pm
I kind of like Glennon but what teams figured out is he can’t move to his left and make any kind of athletic move, like throwing a football.
April 2nd, 2014 at 5:33 pm
This team wont need “Brilliant” Offense to win games. A QB who can manage a game, make plays, and not turn the ball over is what we need and already have. We have not had a defense in so long we forgot that a fresh well coached mediocre offense will beat most NFL teams. Lovie will win games no doubt about it and he learned from his recent past that you need more than 10 wins and a cloud of dust to stay gainfully employed. I see him building a winner no matter who is under center. The QB will be successful because of the offensive system not because he is Brady or Manning caliber but because he can follow a game plan.
With that said I really hope K Mack falls to #7 … I think that guy in this defense would really put us over the top. I so long for the days of people fearing our Defense. Mentally it sets the game up in our favor before they even get on the field that’s what you want. If you have to take a QB grab Jimmy Garoppolo in the later rounds. Kid looks hungry..
Lights out TAMPA DEFENSE 2014!!
April 2nd, 2014 at 7:15 pm
Glennon allows us to pass on a QB that is not the BPA.
Simply out, hang the QB drafting @ 7 up with the “Mo Claibourne is must draft”
Ha!
April 2nd, 2014 at 8:56 pm
SteveK…I’m still saying it’s going to be Glennon and McCown going into the season. Don’t know the starter yet of course.
Then again my track record lately sucks.
April 2nd, 2014 at 9:43 pm
lightningbuc Says
He said “I DON’T KNOW”.
Yeah, but he made it clear what HE believes. He’s just admitting he doesn’t know for sure, but it sure looks that way.
On a side note, a special thank you to brighthouse networks for getting NFL Network. I’m actually watching football during one of the most boring parts of the off season.
April 2nd, 2014 at 9:46 pm
SteveK & Buc1987
I don’t believe Lovie and Tedford are sold on Glennon. Yes, he did “okay”, but not great. Personally, I don’t see how anyone can be sold on him, and if we do not know for sure and McCown is here as a bridge for 2 years (I don’t think he’ll last the 2 years) then they have to get another QB in the draft that can strongly compete.
April 2nd, 2014 at 9:48 pm
And before anyone points out we can’t be sold on a rookie QB either, that’s kind of the point. We would have two guys that we hope will be great, but the odds are against both. A franchise QB defies the odds and succeeds.
I would rather have two chances than one.
April 2nd, 2014 at 9:52 pm
Joe I can not wait for the draft. I wish I had started counting the article you have slammed Glennon, quoted someone else who is negative on him and those articles that last after Johnny Football or anyone else than Gleenon. Oh ya, you like Glennon. You would like to kick his are out of town. Did you notice Mr Brooks quoted your favorite radio personality ? If he’s still here after the draft I hope you and he will leave the kid alone.
April 2nd, 2014 at 10:12 pm
Try the archives search on the left side…..all joes stuff is totally preserved.
April 2nd, 2014 at 10:55 pm
@SteveK (MGM) Says:
“…Glennon, in 13 games, had us at the 27/28th range…”
That is certainly an encouraging endorsement for bucs fans *sacrasm*
I know, better coaching, better players around him, no real competition to unnerve him. That could produce maybe the 22nd/23 range?
April 2nd, 2014 at 11:14 pm
I think Glennon was a great value pick for the 3rd rd. He did much better than I expected. However, you are what you record says you are. The Bucs were 4-12. The 19-9 thing all the MGMers like to point to gave us the worst (or one of the worst) offenses in the league. It amazes me that so many feel the need to upgrade EVERYTHING around one player to adequately evaluate MG8’s play: coaching, receivers, O-line. By typical definition, the “Franchise QB” is supposed to elevate those around him. Not the other way around. The craziest part of it all is that it is a debate over a BACKUP QB.
April 2nd, 2014 at 11:46 pm
You do know when Glennon threw long that means our line last year blocked long enough for the receiver to get deep, and what happened then Glennon Mob? Your boy was only accurate on long throws straight down the field, like his long pass to Crabtree in Preseason. He was off on long passes left and right long. You can’t blame that on bad line play!!! Name a single game Glennon won in a comeback win in the fourth quarter. You can’t, but even Freeman could do that as a rookie. Watch clips of even Carr in college and he threw great deep passes accurately to all sides of the field in traffic, he has speed to keep plays alive like Seattle (compare that to sack magnet Glennon), and has the talent Tedford and Josh can make into a Franchise QB. Just look around the league and notice the large amount that were first round picks that are top QBs. The chances of finding one in the third round are very low. That is why Love keeps looking at first round QBs. He went to a SB once without one and knows that risk is too high because it caused him to lose to a first round QB. Wake up Glennon Mob. Joe knows and you don’t.
April 3rd, 2014 at 1:12 am
If Lovie is smart he’ll let a true competition play out. Its the best way to see who right. If they draft a guy in round one, they force their own hand. Draft one later that you think is talented enough, and let the best man win. Preseason QB competitions are a good way for coaches put the pressure on, while also judging to how the rest of the team react to each QB.
I’m a Glennon fan, but I see why they brought in McCown and think it was a good puck up for the team. I think Glennon would win an open competition over McCown with ease, and I’m not seeing any QBs un the draft that would beat him out either.