Report: Williams Was “Roughhousing”
March 23rd, 2014
[UPDATE: 11:45 p.m. Tammie Fields of WTSP-TV Channel 10 reported that it was witnesses that told police Williams was “roughhousing” with his brother when he was stabbed.]
[UPDATE: 11:18 p.m. WTVT-TV Channel 13 is reporting Hillsborough County Sheriff’s Office expects to issue a warrant for the arrest of Mike Williams’ brother, who authorities believed stabbed Williams today. Currently, the alleged assailant remains on the run from police.]
Yes, Bucs wide receiver Mike Williams was stabbed this afternoon in the thigh. In his home. That much we know.
The Hillsborough County Sheriff’s Office, which noted they are receiving conflicting reports of what happened, claims Williams may have engaged in “roughhousing” when the incident occurred.
That’s the word from Caitlin Johnston of the Tampa Bay Times.
Shortly after 9 p.m., the brother had not been named as either a witness or a suspect, Nunez said.
Williams, 26, was transported to St. Joseph’s Hospital and is in stable condition, Nunez said.
Bucs coach Lovie Smith, when reached at the NFL owners meetings in Orlando, said “there was an incident involving Mike and we are gathering information. “He may have been the victim.”
Now the first thing that goes through Joe’s mind is, who the hell roughhouses with a friggin’ knife? That sounds completely absurd. Joe’s not sure children would pull that kind of stunt.
As of the typing of this post, almost 11 p.m., Williams’ brother remains on the run from authorities. If he was innocent, why run?
March 23rd, 2014 at 10:56 pm
OK, incident becomes accident! Nobody wants to send their brother to jail, especially if the charge could become attempted murder.
March 23rd, 2014 at 10:56 pm
Now begins the cover up. Mike Williams is apparently a lot of people’s’ gravy train. They’d better get their story straight, but that roughhousing may have cost mike tens of millions. if the bucs cut him he’ll need multiple clean and very production seaside a before anybody deems him worthy of another multi year deal even approaching what Dominick gave him
March 23rd, 2014 at 10:57 pm
If this is true (and I’m not saying it is), then he’s going to be cut. He’s still the victim and I hope he’s okay, but I don’t see him staying on this team. If this were to happen to another player, it wouldn’t probably result in him being cut. However, if true, Williams is going to be a victim of his own reputation. Yes, there’s nothing wrong with partying, but you can’t let it go public, and you certainly have to be careful with a new regime that has no ties to you. Now that there is an incident of violence, his days are numbered. I hope it’s not true, but this doesn’t look good.
March 23rd, 2014 at 10:59 pm
sounds like his buddies realized they need to protect their meal ticket with conflicting reports.
regardless, I stand by what I said earlier you are personal responsible for your actions and the people you surround yourself with. i have no sympathy for people who put themselves in bad situations or surround themselves with questionable people and bad things happen that is not a victim that is a dumbARSE. roughhousing come on man can’t defend that BS.
March 23rd, 2014 at 11:01 pm
Going from bad to worse. Pulling for MW but we all know what the likely reality is. If you dont, then see Hawaiian’s post above.
March 23rd, 2014 at 11:04 pm
This is getting more stupid – he’s gone by the end of this week.
March 23rd, 2014 at 11:04 pm
victim implies innocence not stupidity.
March 23rd, 2014 at 11:05 pm
@tmaxcon,
Totally agree there is no defending “roughhousing”. If true, send him packing ASAP. However, if not true (which is starting to seem unlikely), I find a hard time faulting him for being stabbed by his brother. Family is the one group of people that you are not supposed to turn your back on, no matter what. I don’t care what kind of issues my parents or siblings have, I’ll never turn my back on them (I guess UNTIL they were to stab me). So while I would see your point had he gotten stabbed by one of his boys, being stabbed at home by your brother is not the same thing. All that being said, it’s starting to look unlikely that Williams was acting responsibly.
March 23rd, 2014 at 11:09 pm
He’s going to be made a public example of by Licht and Lovie.
March 23rd, 2014 at 11:10 pm
We don’t know all the facts. His brother stabbed him and took off. Were they horsing around or did they get into an altercation? Like Joe said, if he was innocent why run?
March 23rd, 2014 at 11:11 pm
Yep if Williams was roughhousing he is through.
I’m starting to wonder if they made the brother stuff up to cover for Mike.
Not looking good at all.
March 23rd, 2014 at 11:12 pm
@hawaiian
I agree with your take. Having spent considerable time stationed in multiple locations of Hawaii; I have always been very impressed with the family values and the loyalty to family that locals that I was friends with demonstrated. I learned a lot about loyalty there. To this day, I still communicate with several families. Very, Very commendable and I wish it was more common here on the mainland. It’s very different here though. and that is not good in my opinion. I wish MW well and I hope it works out for both he and the bucs but it’s not looking good. hopefully there is a clause to recoup some money or reduce guarantees so the team and fans don’t have to suffer for his alleged roughhousing.
March 23rd, 2014 at 11:14 pm
Joe,
Obviously this is getting waaaaaay ahead of things, but if this is considered a breach of his contract and we get off the hook as far as his guaranteed salary, does it still count against our cap? In other words, if we “Michael Vick” him, does it still count against the cap the full amount?
March 23rd, 2014 at 11:14 pm
When Williams comes back and puts up the types of numbers he normally does, nobody here will have anything to say. Why are the so called fans of this team always trying to run somebody out of town?
March 23rd, 2014 at 11:15 pm
This potentially makes Mike Evans a option or trade down to get another WR.
March 23rd, 2014 at 11:16 pm
What numbers Shane…he’s a average WR.
March 23rd, 2014 at 11:16 pm
Lee from USC would be a nice get trading down also.
March 23rd, 2014 at 11:16 pm
Trade Vincent Jackson for a 2nd or 3rd this year or next , keep Mike Williams, sign DeShawn Jackson, trade back in this draft and get another 3rd round pick and more if possible. No tight end this year, draft Mike Evans 1st, pass rusher from Stanford 2nd, corner back in the 3rd or 2nd if we get another 2nd (the 6ft 3in guy). Tackle or guard next, wr, tackle or guard. pick up linebacker in the undradted class and bring all to training camp.
Learning process and development for defense and offense this season. 5 win or better season, trade Glennon then draft QB and go Defense strong that draft. Trade for next year’s draft picks when possible. Wild card or divisional winner in 2015, NO window is closed/ATL is also done/Carolina will be competition but the Bucs will have a grip on the division. Superbowl contender the next three years.
March 23rd, 2014 at 11:17 pm
I wonder if his bong got broken. Blood Alcohol level???
I hope Jason can trade him before Lovie cuts him.
And the hits just keep on coming…
March 23rd, 2014 at 11:19 pm
Like I said in the last thread. How does someone stay out of trouble by staying at his house if the house is the trouble? S.O.B. though this sucks. Is there going to be anyone on this team that we recognize come training camp?
Is Doug Martin safe? You may say yes today and be wrong next week.
March 23rd, 2014 at 11:19 pm
You’re right Joe, nothing’s wrong with the kid.
Trespass, Smashing a door, Associating with the CMG weirdos, Knife incident/accident, Partying life, fire in his property, 40K damage in property..
This is just unfortunate circonstancial events that just happen to the poor kid. It’s not like he could do something about it, he’s only a millionaire after all..
#itsabucslife I guess
March 23rd, 2014 at 11:19 pm
If Mike doesn’t want to press charges on his brother, then so be it. The State prosecutor should back down. It is family. But what needs to happen is for Mike to get in his mind what’s important here. He’s not doing much to endear himself with his fans. I mean, some folks here already have him traded. I just hope Mike is healed up by OTAs. I’d really hate that this “rough housing incident” kept him out of camp. He needs to man-up!
March 23rd, 2014 at 11:19 pm
To clarify an autocorrect error in my post, “that roughhousing may have cost mike and his entourage tens of millions. if the bucs cut him he’ll need multiple clean and very productive seasons before anybody deems him worthy of another multi year deal even approaching what Dominick gave him”.
March 23rd, 2014 at 11:20 pm
With today events, we now NEED to get some G and WR in that draft
March 23rd, 2014 at 11:20 pm
“When Williams comes back and puts up the types of numbers he normally does, nobody here will have anything to say. Why are the so called fans of this team always trying to run somebody out of town?”
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Williams averages a little less than 750 yards per season. That’s not terrible, don’t get me wrong, but in today’s NFL, it certainly doesn’t stand out. His biggest value is that he does have a knack for getting in the end zone, but he also has a knack for being completely shut out, and dropping a lot of balls. So while he’s a nice little #2 receiver, he isn’t special enough to warrant all the hassle off the field. He just isn’t. He’s not the kind of guy that most fans can embrace, and certainly not someone that parents are going to want their kids to emulate. He’s not the guy that a franchise would want to promote. Gerald McCoy he is not. Right or wrong, that’s the reality of the situation. It just all boils down to he may not be worth all the hassle for 750 yards.
March 23rd, 2014 at 11:21 pm
Newbucsfan!!! is that as in your an actual new fan or a newbucsfan to the site? Because if your a new fan, run while you still can buddy. lol
March 23rd, 2014 at 11:24 pm
where are some of the capologists that know the bucs options and values. I can not imagine the bucs did not protect themselves against alleged stupidity. Being a selfish fan I am more concerned about the cap since his trade value is nill now.
March 23rd, 2014 at 11:25 pm
“Trade Vincent Jackson for a 2nd or 3rd this year or next , keep Mike Williams, sign DeShawn Jackson, trade back in this draft and get another 3rd round pick and more if possible.
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Is that straight from a book of bad ideas? So you want to get rid of the guy who stays healthy (knock on wood), puts up huge numbers, does great things in the community, for a guy that puts up average numbers, constantly gets into mischief, and disappears for games at a time???? Then you want to team him with Deshaun Jackson?????!!!!! Who’s going to mentor who in that locker room?
March 23rd, 2014 at 11:27 pm
@tmaxcon,
Yeah, I would assume they can get out of his contract if it is deemed he was acting a fool, I just don’t know if he still carries out the same salary cap hit. I could personally care less if they do or don’t have to pay him, I’m just concerned with how it affects our salary cap situation. I’m googling away trying to find out though.
March 23rd, 2014 at 11:27 pm
I heard he was in danger of being cut, but this isn’t quite what I had in mind…
March 23rd, 2014 at 11:27 pm
No to MeSean Jackson.
Yes to Mike Evans.
March 23rd, 2014 at 11:30 pm
Second post Pick6 is busy thinking about the” seaside”
March 23rd, 2014 at 11:35 pm
I roughouse with my little brother and he has yet to pull a knife on me. Unless his mental state is questionable either change the term from roughhouse to something up, like scuffle. That or something else is going on.
March 23rd, 2014 at 11:36 pm
Hopefully Mike’s brother has Mr. Dolman’s number handy
March 23rd, 2014 at 11:39 pm
Oh, Jayzus, now the conspiracy theories about a coverup come out’a the woodwork! When will people learn to wait for all the facts. Sorry, just get tired of this cycle…report…speculation…further report…wilder speculation…final report…wild theories based on proclivities of the speaker. Gets a bit tiresome, after a while. No doubt SOMEONE’s wild theory will be true, thus fueling the frenzy in response to the next media report.
March 23rd, 2014 at 11:51 pm
Hawaiian Buc Says
“Williams averages a little less than 750 yards per season. That’s not terrible, don’t get me wrong, but in today’s NFL, it certainly doesn’t stand out.”
I would think the QBs throwing to him played a big role in that.
I think the people who have been harping on him to be cut are jumping on this, whoever they are. It’s a bit unfair.
We could always fire all rape victims for dressing procatatively while were using double standards.
March 23rd, 2014 at 11:52 pm
We’re
March 23rd, 2014 at 11:53 pm
J. Zuttah + M. Williams = D. Jax
March 23rd, 2014 at 11:55 pm
@BuccaneerBonzai,
It sure didn’t seem to hurt Vincent Jackson, now did it? Don’t blame the QB’s – that’s silly.
I know you aren’t speaking directly to me, but if you look at my comments on the first article, I was saying he is the victim and we shouldn’t rush to any conclusions. However, if he really was “roughhousing” (and as I’ve said, I don’t know if that is or isn’t true), then come on! There is no defending that. That’s pure stupidity and irresponsibility. That’s a gots to go situation. Obviously he would still be the victim, but that combined with all the other negative stories of him is going to be the straw that breaks the camels back. If true, he is done, like it or not.
March 24th, 2014 at 12:01 am
My brother and I use to ‘rough house’ all the time, however I don’t seem to remember us ever stabbing each other
March 24th, 2014 at 12:02 am
So how bout them Rays???
March 24th, 2014 at 12:06 am
One theory of mine is that it went down something like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkkTKhw9Fbg
March 24th, 2014 at 12:14 am
@ Hawaiian
Frikin’ Hilarious
March 24th, 2014 at 12:51 am
Roughhousing is always a means for dismissal. Duh! Everybody knows that!
Why cant anybody just say ” hey, we dont quite know what happened yet. We just gotta wait and see what the real deal is!” ???????????
March 24th, 2014 at 1:10 am
Bucs fans just love to eat their own.
I feel sorry for the next Bucs player who these fans come after.
March 24th, 2014 at 4:19 am
I’m sure it can’t be his fault. Trade him to the patriots.
March 24th, 2014 at 8:44 am
So your brother is on the run from the police. You let him into your gated community residence, and while talking about old times, you decide to rough house with him…just for the fun of it… but unbeknownst to you, he gets mad…pulls a knife…and stabs you. Wow…if that is what happened in my family while “roughhousing”, I don’t think I would ever “roughhouse” with them.
March 24th, 2014 at 8:46 am
I have nothing against Mike. But the Bucs need a guy on the field that they can count to be there and perform consistently. I don’t know that Lovie sees that in Mike Williams. It isn’t personal….it is strictly business.
March 24th, 2014 at 1:20 pm
So roughhousing is a crime? Let’s cut his ass.