Lovieball Overhaul Spells Doom For Glennon
March 12th, 2014
“It’s a tough business, my son.”
After today’s free-agency madness, the Bucs could have a whopping 10 new veteran faces on the roster. And Lovie Smith and Jason Licht are just getting started.
If you’re playing the free-agency home game and keeping score, the 2014 Bucs bounty is as follows:.
They’ve upgraded their pass rush in a huge way at defensive tackle and defensive end (Clinton McDonald and Michael Johnson), added Pro Bowl cornerback Alterraun Verner (albeit to replace a better cornerback, Darrelle Revis) and brought in an average, durable starting tight end in Brandon Myers.
Next up on today’s menu, if deals get done, are QB Josh McCown, veteran backup LT/RT Anthony Collins, former Bears legendary returner Devin Hester, Chicago Pro Bowl (in 2012) defensive tackle Henry Melton, who’s coming off a blown ACL, wounded 33-year-old Bears cornerback star Charles “Peanut” Tillman, and Packers starting center Evan Dietrich-Smith.
For good measure, the Bucs also re-signed versatile guard Jamon Meredith. The man who quietly starred in 2012 as the right-guard starter for Davin Joseph got a two-year deal. And the Bucs kept cornerback Danny Gorrer and returner/WR Eric Page.
Coming soon, an official dumping of Darrelle Revis, finding a No. 3 receiver and further upgrades.
Joe can’t help but think all this swift change spells doom for Mike Glennon. Hell, after Lovie and Licht rained down so much love, respect and desire for Revis, Joe now has to question whatever guarded praise of Glennon they offered previously. There’s just no way Lovie is going to attach his career to Glennon. No. 8 doesn’t have enough talent to win that nod.
And Joe can’t stomach the notion that quarterbacks guru Jeff Tedford was hired as offensive coordinator, a job he’ll really only get two seasons to prove himself in, and the Bucs won’t draft the quarterback he believes will lead them to the promised land.
March 12th, 2014 at 6:46 am
Betting on Carr. Makes too much sense. This team is proving to be rather predictable with defense. I expect no less from offense.
March 12th, 2014 at 6:49 am
I’m not digging on restocking the shelves with the Bears old groceries.
March 12th, 2014 at 6:51 am
And which of Lovie’s moves have you correctly predicted so far?
For the record, Joe was the very first out with this story on Revis on the day Lovie was hired! https://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=104691 Joe’s opinion on Revis is separate from Joe’s “predictions.”
Joe also was out there a while ago saying the Bucs would move swiftly on McCown during the “tampering” period and that there was no way in hell Lovie would leave opening day of free agency without a premier edge rusher among those available. Joe also was confident the regime wouldn’t be in a massive hurry to cut Donald Penn.–Joe
March 12th, 2014 at 6:51 am
You sound like a little girl crying all day about revis. STAHP IT JOE STAHP!
March 12th, 2014 at 6:53 am
With all the Free Agency moves happening above the Bucs draft pick
the QB’s are falling
I would not be surprised if FA McCown is signed for two years AND
the Bucs pick up Bridgewater, Bortles, or Manziel at #7
March 12th, 2014 at 6:59 am
I rather have bear pro bowlers than stocking the shelve with all Rutgers grads and Schaino’s high school sweetheart that got away.
March 12th, 2014 at 7:00 am
Our next Super bowl Team is being built.
I love Revis but I understand we don’t have a college coach and Dominick making decisions anymore. I’m all in with our new duo serving a bright future in Tampa Bay.
Let’s see what today brings for our offense & special team.
You Got To Love THIS!!!!
March 12th, 2014 at 7:01 am
I think you’re premature in writing off Glennon. Yes there will be competition and indeed someone else may be under center in Sept. but I’m sure Glennon will still be here in some capacity and may win the starting job. I’m not as down on his abilities as you are and think he will eventually be a good NFL QB, whether he reaches that status here or elsewhere remains to be seen
March 12th, 2014 at 7:03 am
I’m not passing judgement on the new regime until I see the product on the field. The mess that the outgoing GM left will take a lot to overcome. I’ll take Lovieball at 10-6 over Greggyball at 4-12 any day.
March 12th, 2014 at 7:04 am
Seems to me, giving Glennon a new and expected to be improved offensive line is giving him the best chance to succeed at the QB position. Glennon is probably elated!
March 12th, 2014 at 7:07 am
If McCown is added than I would love to see Murray drafted in a later round. He has more talent than many of the first round guys and could set behind McCown and Glennon this year. What a great QB competition next preseason… a healthy Murray, and more matured Glennon, and a cagey veteran
March 12th, 2014 at 7:09 am
If he’s replaced by a guy that is legitimately better and we aren’t overpaying for (be it with actually money or draft position value) then I’m fine with Glennon being replaced an upgrade at QB
March 12th, 2014 at 7:13 am
Thank God. Hopefully it also spells doom for gimmicks and tricks too.
March 12th, 2014 at 7:16 am
Joe, what makes you sure we are getting Hester, Melton, ??
Do they have visits withe team? Link please
Joe didn’t put anything out there as “sure.” Rick Stroud and others have put it out on Twitter.–JOe
March 12th, 2014 at 7:22 am
As someone who wanted the Bucs to extend Freeman, it’s hard to take Joe’s analysis of QB’s seriously.
That’s great, except it’s important to note Joe suggested a team-friendly extension, if Freeman was willing to accept such a non-big-money offer.–Joe
March 12th, 2014 at 7:25 am
A round 1 qb starting to make all kinds of sense. Really loving the new regime right about now
March 12th, 2014 at 7:26 am
I hope some other teams sign and release some QBs today.
The more QBs signed the higher the chances of one falling to us.
I think joe assuming we’ll sign all the visitors today is premature.
March 12th, 2014 at 7:29 am
Totally agree Joe, Lovie is here to win and has zero allegiance to any soldier in the Greg Schiano army.
Glennon has no chance.
Can’t plant new seeds until you plow the field. Great job so far IMO.
March 12th, 2014 at 7:32 am
Joe…I don’t think you are reading it right. Lovie is getting the D right number 1 with vets…many of them that can help teach his D, because they are good players and experienced in the system. I think we will pick the best O player available on the O line, WR, or QB….I more likely see the first two in the first round and QB in the second or third(revis pick back). It will be a new system…hopefully similar terminology. I expect another WR and the lineman in the 4th or 5th. And I don’t know how much they didn’t like Revis or want to keep him…I think they definitely didn’t like his contract and salary.
March 12th, 2014 at 7:38 am
And if we want to read more into what has happened the last few days, it might indicate Licht is very willling to trade down if he finds the right partner, and could pass on a QB to pick up two other high draft picks.
March 12th, 2014 at 7:41 am
@bomzai,
Which is why Joe put “if” in italics.
March 12th, 2014 at 8:11 am
huh? FA started, we have not signed a QB, and the one we might is a backup.
you translate that to doom for our QB. your dislike, however you want to twist it, for MG is clouding your judgement.
March 12th, 2014 at 8:19 am
Actually Joe it mostly spells doom for your Johnny Football dreams. Signing McCown is the end of them. Signing McCown keeps Glennon as backup until McCown gets exposed without Marshall and Jeffrey.
March 12th, 2014 at 8:26 am
rightoff…think you are right. We sign McCown, more likely we pick a QB in the 2nd or 3rd(if we get that pick back). These guys seem to be likely a “crap shoot” at the QB position as it is. Further if we can get the best O lineman or WR in the draft, I think it more likely we go that way.
March 12th, 2014 at 8:37 am
Welcome to Bears South. . . no longer Rutgers South. . .
March 12th, 2014 at 8:37 am
I usually avoid this quarterback discussion but I tend to agree with Macabbe. Glennon given the tools should serve as an adequate journeyman much like Johnson, McMahon, Dilfer and others. Lovie went to a Super Bowl with Grossman. I am not sold on this QB class like many and believe that the best QB will come out of the mid rounds. Our luck with first rounders is a matter of record. I am very willing to go into the 2014 season with an upgraded OL and the statistically best rookie QB the Bucs have ever fielded. With Mc Gowan providing competition and the addition of a few weapons I think Glennon will be fine.
March 12th, 2014 at 8:58 am
Rutgers never did anything worth mentioning. Bears went to the Super Bowl and had a 10-6 record Lovie’s last year there. I’ll take bears south any day.
March 12th, 2014 at 8:59 am
i hope glennon beats mccown, i honestly wouldnt be exicited with mccown at all
March 12th, 2014 at 9:28 am
@ Biff “I’m not digging on restocking the shelves with the Bears old groceries. ”
You and me agree.
March 12th, 2014 at 9:33 am
Oh come on Joe. You were spelling Glennon’s doom the second Schiano was fired. Remember Glennon has NO CHANCE? Lol, in your mind free agency has nothing to do with your opinion, its just your way to justify it.
Bring on McCown and a draft pick, Glennon will beat them all out and Joe will be playing the symphony of tears for us!
March 12th, 2014 at 9:37 am
Rusty, it’s simply because the Bears players are past their prime. There is no chance for long term success with stopgap players.
Nice that we signed some younger guys yesterday who can play together for a few seasons.
March 12th, 2014 at 9:56 am
Yeah I’m not all that keen on old Bears players either. I understand the move, surround yourself with players you know you can trust and that understand your system. At least the Rutgers guys we brought in were still in their physical prime, and some of them will contribute for the Bucs and be cheap against the cap. Hopefully Lovie/Licht don’t overpay for some of da’ Bears they want to bring in.
March 12th, 2014 at 10:04 am
As for Glennon, won’t matter who the Bucs get for a QB if the only legit WR target they have on the field is VJAX. Save the money, add FA/draft impact defense guys and Glennon with a healthy supporting case and maybe a vertical threat WR with a stout defense should be enough to give the Bucs a shot a relevance next season.
March 12th, 2014 at 10:09 am
Sign McCown and groom/heal Mettenberger.
March 12th, 2014 at 10:47 am
Sign McCown and why do we still not have the 4th worst QB in our division?
March 12th, 2014 at 11:02 am
How does any of that spell doom for Glennon? The article doesn’t make sense.
March 12th, 2014 at 11:11 am
BucFan20 Says:
March 12th, 2014 at 10:47 am
Sign McCown and why do we still not have the 4th worst QB in our division?
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Yes, but the gap decreases. We also signed the best fit for our team at DE, replaced an All-Pro with an All-Pro (who is still probably the best CB in the division)….this will be a much improved roster next season.
March 12th, 2014 at 11:23 am
The best thing that can happen to Glennon is to be traded (‘maybe’ a 3rd/4th rd pick?).
Williams, Young, Chandler, and Dilfer will tell him that it doesn’t hurt to be told ‘You’re not good enough”, by the Bucs.
March 12th, 2014 at 11:53 am
Don’t choke the chicken too soon Joe. If they will allow a fair competition, the Mike Glennon supporters will back whoever is chosen as starting Quarterback. Are you willing to do the same? Isn’t it time to get off the kids back and let training camp decide who’s under center?
March 12th, 2014 at 12:04 pm
Watch Glennon beat everyone out in camp. Just wait for it.