It’s About Turnovers
March 13th, 2014
It’s all about the picks for Alterraun Verner.
No, former Bucs commander Greg Schiano was not always wrong. He used preached about creating turnovers. Schiano all but drooled about building a defense that forced turnovers, and he absolutely was right.
Turnovers often lead to wins. And yes, Schiano built a defense that created turnovers. The Bucs were fifth in the NFL in turnover margin. Yet inexplicably, the Bucs had a horrible record.
If you need evidence why Mike Glennon is now a backup, right there is one glaring reason. He couldn’t take advantage of all the Bucs turnovers and turn them into points.
People like to compare Bucs coach Lovie Smith to Father Dungy. Yes, he is a disciple but there is more to Lovie than just perceived nepotism. Lovie’s defenses in Chicago were legendary for forcing turnovers. Lovie won in Chicago. You can do the math.
And speaking at his introductory press conference yesterday before the Tampa Bay pen and mic club, new Bucs cornerback specifically said Lovie’s craving for turnovers is one reason he finds himself in the Tampa Bay area.
“I just got a great feeling about this place and now I’m just ready to go work and create all these turnovers that Coach Smith loves and just make a difference,” Verner said. “I feel like I can do that here and I feel like my teammates are expecting it from me and I expect it from myself.”
Just to give Bucs fans an idea about Verner, he had five picks last year, or roughly one every three games. The last time a Bucs corner had five interceptions? It seems like a lifetime ago, and that came in 2010 when the Bucs lost out in a playoff tiebreaker and a certain corner had six picks.
The name of the cornerback? None other than helmet-wielding, cabbie-slugging, Adderrall-popping, coach-cussing, referee-charging, pistol-friendly, granny-hassling Aqib Talib.
March 13th, 2014 at 11:35 am
helmet-wielding, cabbie-slugging, Adderrall-popping, coach-cussing, referee-charging, pistol-friendly, granny-hassling Aqib Talib
I just love that!!!!
March 13th, 2014 at 11:47 am
Joe, pinning all of last years inability to capitalize on turnovers on Glennon is akin to professing your preference for Bud Light. Both the argument and beverage are watered down and lack real substance.
March 13th, 2014 at 11:49 am
Joe forgot to add “robbery” to the aqib insults. …and can you please post Blount and Richard Sherman going back and forth on twitter
March 13th, 2014 at 11:49 am
biff barker Says:
March 13th, 2014 at 11:47 am
Joe, pinning all of last years inability to capitalize on turnovers on Glennon is akin to professing your preference for Bud Light. Both the argument and beverage are watered down and lack real substance.
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But like Joe, it’s still bought in large quantities by the masses. They must be doing something right.
March 13th, 2014 at 11:50 am
Quib had a great year!! He was more a shutdown corner than Mevis. Mevis gave up more big plays and TDs. Quib shut down Jimmy Graham and Julio Jones. Mevis shut down Skye Dawson in practice!!
March 13th, 2014 at 11:52 am
^^Bud Light sells because its cheap, not because its good. Cause if you think it is I can always take a piss and you can drink that, tastes about the same.
March 13th, 2014 at 11:55 am
Funny ppl think Talib is better then verner
March 13th, 2014 at 11:57 am
how about the new regime “turning over” the terrible roster they inherited.
March 13th, 2014 at 11:58 am
Man complete roster overhaul seems we finally hve direction in tampa
March 13th, 2014 at 12:04 pm
I know Joe couldn’t hold back from his jab at Glennon everyday saga. Now we get to see when he brings up Johnny in 5min-1hr. Predictable at best
March 13th, 2014 at 12:12 pm
Revis Contract @joe
2yr-$32mil
Option for year 2 at $20mil.
Revis is extremely smart.. He is gonna get his money
March 13th, 2014 at 12:18 pm
He’ll never see that 20 million. Next year they will restructure or cut him. Nobody would pay 16, you think someone is gonna pay 20?
March 13th, 2014 at 12:25 pm
On that Revis thing, it’s telling that he wouldn’t restructure for the Bucs and then took $4 million less in NE.
Welcome to TB Verner! Like your attitude!
March 13th, 2014 at 12:28 pm
I wonder how long before McCown is sitting on the bench where he has been most of his football career.
March 13th, 2014 at 12:28 pm
Well, Joe subscribes in the football fundamental that quarterbacks lead offenses if not teams. Not only did the Bucs offense, with Glennon under center, fail to capitalize on the turnovers the defense created (which is well-documented), the same offense under the same quarterback, Glennon, finished dead last in the NFL.
Yet, somehow, Glennon, the quarterback, should not be implicated in any of the offense’s doldrums.
Apparently, Lovie Smith doesn’t subscribe.
March 13th, 2014 at 12:30 pm
All Glennon. Sure it was. Now give McCown the same thing. A line so bad Freeman nor Glennon could be kept off the ground. Martin before injured or any back could run through. Two main receivers one double covered and a predictable when they lined up. No surprise on the goal line. No push,no lanes,cover the receivers. Predictable as hell.
March 13th, 2014 at 12:32 pm
Joe, Any news on, Charles Tillman, Devin Hester, Emmanuel Sanders, Steve Smith?
March 13th, 2014 at 12:33 pm
hope all this works. Lot of new faces in Tampa Bay this coming season
March 13th, 2014 at 12:34 pm
mr. sign jf5 to an extension says its all Glennon’s fault…lol….lol…whatever man. Happy we got this different Josh M. though.
March 13th, 2014 at 12:38 pm
Wait….. Joe doesn’t want to hear excuses for anyone, except the the ones he likes…… Nuff said
March 13th, 2014 at 12:41 pm
@ buc a deer, really….c’mon, bashing Revis now that he is gone is classless. He was less than a year removed from a torn ACL. And u probably endorsed Aquib’s trade to Patriots a couple of years ago. So appreciate what Revis did for bucnation, he gave us a bona fide NFL star for a year, been a while since we had that.
March 13th, 2014 at 12:42 pm
What don’t our FA signings and Johnny M have in common? They are solid and serious about their lives and not acting like punkish party boys. Moral of the story? They don’t sign or draft guys like that, and don’t need much of a reason to get rid of guys like that.
March 13th, 2014 at 12:43 pm
@MadMax – yes JF5 was ruined by Schiano, you have to play with Joe and his “fans”. Off to BucNation for my info from now on, its just as current, minus the witch hunt lol
….plus they don’t have scripts and cookies that bog your PC down like when you log on here!!!
March 13th, 2014 at 12:46 pm
If Sanders signs
M.Williams will be gone
Just waiting to hear when Penn is traded too
Not sure about Koenen even though his stats<Annual Pay
Lots more Cap space than the Bucs started with as Free Agency continues
March 13th, 2014 at 12:50 pm
I’m good with the McCown/Glennon team…..Glennon can learn a lot and it won’t hurt him to sit out a while. We need a good backup either way. This is a major upgrade from Dan O.
If we draft a QB….Glennon will be traded and we could get something for him because of his backup and eventual starting potential.
My preference is that we see what McCown can do & consider a QB in next year’s draft instead of this year….we need too many parts….looks like we need WR/OG….
March 13th, 2014 at 12:53 pm
Don’t be too confused with facts joe. Turnover margin is in fact that….a margin which is the difference between turnovers caused vs committed. A point off of turnover is a better indicator. The bucs were 13th in that. One of our major issues was our points given up after turnovers. I couldn’t find that stat but I imagine we were close to last in that stat. I have little doubt we would be last in points given up per turnover.
March 13th, 2014 at 1:24 pm
(IMPACT PLAYS) BEING SAYING IT ALL SEASON
March 13th, 2014 at 1:31 pm
@wombat
BucNation sucks.
March 13th, 2014 at 2:17 pm
biff barker Says
“Joe, pinning all of last years inability to capitalize on turnovers on Glennon is akin to professing your preference for Bud Light. Both the argument and beverage are watered down and lack real substance.”
OMG, Mike Glennon is the ONLY quarterback in the NFL that cannot be held accountable apparently.
Okay, biff barker, you are right to some degree. No quarterback should solely be blamed for all picks. There are tips and other things. In some cases a WR should fight for the ball. Tips almost never end well, so those are the WRs fault.
Aside from that? Mike Glennon IS at fault. Most of the fumbles are too. Not all, but most of the ones he was involved with.
And about half his sacks were his fault as well. The oline did well enough MOST times to give his 3-5 seconds, but he held on too long. Speedy WRs will not fix that issue, experience will…maybe.
Now list, I don’t want Glennon out of here at this point. I cannot say he will amount to nothing. Brett Favre had a horrible start to his career and turned out fine. While I don’t know if Glennon will be worse or better than Favre, I don’t want another Steve Young to slip through our fingers.
So I say hold onto the man and develop him.
But I also say we should draft a QB in the first round. McCown is a stopgap, good for only a year, two at most. That is just enough time to properly develop a QB (if McCown is good enough to hold onto the starting role, which I personally doubt).
So we can draft a guy to develop alongside Glennon and ONE of them might turn out to be great, maybe both, which would give us great trade bait.
March 13th, 2014 at 2:20 pm
Joe, I don’t know if this happens with anyone else, but there is an add that is flash based that pops up only on my tablet, claiming my tablet is injected (which it is not). It happened only here, 3-4 times yesterday.
My tablet won’t let me determine who the ad is from without activating the link…which would probably infect my tablet.
March 13th, 2014 at 2:22 pm
Tampabaybucfan Says
“I’m good with the McCown/Glennon team…..Glennon can learn a lot and it won’t hurt him to sit out a while. We need a good backup either way. This is a major upgrade from Dan O.
If we draft a QB….Glennon will be traded and we could get something for him because of his backup and eventual starting potential.”
I would rather take the time to develop the drafted QB AND Glennon. As I’ve said all along, better to have two chances than one.