The Remaking Of Johnny Football
February 16th, 2014
In case you didn’t see this excellent story by vaunted NFL scribe John McClain on Johnny Football in the Houston Chronicle over the weekend, anyone who is remotely interested in football should take a peek at it.
Yes, it is about how Johnny Football wants to transform from college wunderkind to NFL stud. He’s working out in San Diego with a guy who has helped mold Ben Roethlisberger, Cam Newton and Andrew Luck. But as much as Johnny is working at being a quarterback, he is trying to rework his party-boy, skirt-chasing, liquor-swilling persona.
Manziel calls it his “TMZ” image and claims that is not him.
“I was a kid who made some goofball decisions,” he said. “That’s been part of my journey. Maybe it’s part of the whole Johnny Football deal that I’m trying to get away from. I’m trying to show people I’ve grown up and I’ve learned from my experiences. I feel like you’re a stupid person if you continue to make the same wrong decisions.
“I don’t want to hear, ‘Oh, anybody in his situation would have been doing the same thing.’ I’m 100 percent responsible for my actions. I want them to know who I really am. I’m going to try to let people know who I really am deep down in my core and that I’m not the guy who does whatever is portrayed on the Internet.”
What, someone holds it against Johnny because he walks out of a Los Angeles hotspot into a limo with a busty blonde in tow?
What red-blooded American male would frown upon that? Most general mangers would applaud he’s taking a safe ride. Aren’t we sick of hearing about jocks who not only have access to free transportation but can also afford limos and cabs getting pulled over for being hammered?
Hell, he should be applauded for that!
So Johnny is selfish? He turned down $350,000 for a radio row appearance at the Super Bowl because it would disrupt his training.
Joe just thinks this guy is horribly painted in a bad light by his haters who for reasons Joe cannot comprehend; they think he’s worse than Trent Dilfer, despite what people like Gil Brandt say. There is nothing about Johnny Football that makes Joe cringe; the opposite actually. Does he make mistakes? Yeah, in the offseason. He seems to be learning from those mistakes, not repeating them.
Joe is starting to think the vile hatred of Johnny from folks comes because people are simply flat jealous of him and couldn’t pull in college.
Johnny Football would be a massive asset for the Bucs. Now if they can just find a way to get him. That’s the trick.
February 16th, 2014 at 4:04 pm
The ending of this post is hands down the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever read on here.
February 16th, 2014 at 4:18 pm
Joe goes to sleep dreaming of Johnny Football….but wakes up with Mike Glennon each day….Bwahahahaah
February 16th, 2014 at 4:19 pm
Glennon Sucks
Glennon is Great
We need to move up to draft Bridgwater, Bortles, Manziel
We should take one of them at 7 if they are there
We need to take Garoppolo or Murray or another QB later
We need to bring in Vick
Vick Sucks
We need to bring in McCown
McCown Sucks
We need to call Brett Favre
We don’t need to call Brett Favre
Glennon should get another chance
Glennon should be a career backup
Freeman Sucks
Freeman Sucked
I’m sure I haven’t covered everything but this covers most opinions. I think I’ll just post this every time another QB article appears!!!
February 16th, 2014 at 4:22 pm
#5!!!!
(Stat)(Stat)(Stat)(Stat)(Comparison to great player)(Stat)(Stat)(Reason why people won’t give Glennon a chance)(Plea for Bucs to use #7 pick on someone else)
February 16th, 2014 at 4:24 pm
Your setting yourself up for disappointment Joe. He’s going to Houston!
February 16th, 2014 at 4:24 pm
LOL!!!
February 16th, 2014 at 4:28 pm
Texas Boy Johnny Football Stays In Texas, and gets drafted by the Houston Texans.
No way Houston passes on him, or their militant fan base will riot in the streets.
February 16th, 2014 at 4:33 pm
Why are we subjected to this type of drivel? This guy doesn’t even play for the Bucs. Are you going to run the same amount of articles on Bortles, Clowney, Bridgewater, Watkins, et al who all have the same likelihood, or even more perhaps, to be drafted by the Bucs than Johnny Lush? D
February 16th, 2014 at 4:34 pm
Man crush or no man crush. That is the question?
February 16th, 2014 at 4:36 pm
Even the MGM would have to admit that if Johnny came to the Bucs and was hugely successful, it would be fun to have a personality like that playing for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
February 16th, 2014 at 4:38 pm
That is all great and dandy but does it have to do with us? He will not be there at 7. Keep dreaming
February 16th, 2014 at 4:42 pm
@joe these app redirects are killing me!
February 16th, 2014 at 4:42 pm
oh its a man crush and Joe’s in love!
February 16th, 2014 at 4:46 pm
Even if he’s there at 7, do you really think we draft him? If he’s there at 7 and we pass what are you going to do joe?
February 16th, 2014 at 4:48 pm
Joe will be curled up in a ball crying when the Bucs trade back in the draft even with Johnny Football still on the board. That’s right I am calling it. Even if he falls to us at 7 the Bucs will pass. When I think of Lovie Smith and Jeff Tedford the last QB to come to my mind is Johnny Football. The very very very last.
February 16th, 2014 at 4:49 pm
@blackmagic00,
I just read your post like a second after posting mine lol.
February 16th, 2014 at 4:50 pm
Man crush is OK as long as jock carrying is not required.
February 16th, 2014 at 4:54 pm
Sign hardy, trade up get clowney. Move goldson lb. Sign byrd
Monstruous defense
February 16th, 2014 at 4:54 pm
Well Joe, I just hope those who pick 1 through 6 don’t read your blog! lol
With all of the changes in One Bucs Place why not go for broke and grab an elite QB because just as you previously wrote, it could be 10 years before we get another opportunity to pick so low in the order.
February 16th, 2014 at 5:10 pm
INDYBucsFan: Agreed. They really hurt the mobile experience.
Also Joe, calm down about Johnny M. The bucs aren’t picking that high.
February 16th, 2014 at 5:10 pm
Johnny Football is an “I” man! He only thinks of himself! If we get him, I will throw up, literally!
February 16th, 2014 at 5:12 pm
You guys are really letting the Joes troll you with a vengeance today.
February 16th, 2014 at 5:17 pm
What trolling? Joe was very excited by that fantastic feature story
February 16th, 2014 at 5:26 pm
I just do not get this obsession with a QB in the first round. I understand the importance of the position but a college QB is still a college QB until he proves himself in the NFL. Am I supposed to believe that Joe and the commenters here are so much smarter than the folks in the NFL who actually get paid to make decisions about who to draft? Let’s just take a look at how the professionals fared when it comes to drafting a QB in the first round.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl/photos/7001/nfl-draft-first-round-quarterbacks-since-2001/3/
Last year only one taken…EJ Manuel and the verdict is still out but is anybody overly impressed?
2012- Luck an obvious franchise QB….RGIII a possible franchise QB and then come Ryan Tannehill and Brandon Weedon! Anybody sorry we missed out on those two?
2011 – Cam Newton, Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert and Christian Ponder. Again anybody sorry that we missed out on those last two?
2010 – Sam Bradford and Tim Tebow
2009- Matthew Stafford, Mark Sanchez and Sleepy Freeman. That class is darn near an oh fer although I guess the verdict is out on Stafford.
2008 – Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco…two good picks.
2007 – Jamarcus Russell and Brady Quinn. Hey they’re in the prime of their careers now. Oh for two eh!
2006- Vince Young, Matt Leinart and Jay Cutler. If we love them we could have them tomorrow.
That’s far enough. My point is simple. The PROFESSIONALS who earn their living evaluating talent are below 50% in the freaking first round. Why does anybody believe ANY of this years choices are sure things?
February 16th, 2014 at 5:28 pm
By that logic, Joe shouldn’t write a word about anyone in the draft. Not one player eligible for May’s draft plays for the Bucs.
Hell, no! Brotles does not impress Joe. Clowney nor Bridewater will be available unless the Bucs trade up (and Joe would be happy with either one though Joe has questions about Clowney).
Joe writes what interests Joe. Johnny Football playing for the Bucs keeps Joe awake at night.
February 16th, 2014 at 5:30 pm
If Johnny excels in the NFL like Joe expects? Freak out.
February 16th, 2014 at 5:32 pm
You have to hand it to Joe(s) for sheer dogged determination.
I’m getting worn down.
It’s a war of attrition.
I no longer have the energy to attempt to counter the Johnny Football nonsense.
February 16th, 2014 at 5:39 pm
Lord knows I’d rather have this circus than the one that dolt Beckles suggested the other day (Tebow). At least I don’t see John Q. Football running around in front of cameras with his shirt off after skipping passes all day Josh freeman style. Manziel has his issues, ok, but I agree w Joe. His play more than compensates, and at least he hasn’t been stupid (yet). Everyone should just ignore espn a coverage of the kid for awhile
February 16th, 2014 at 5:45 pm
@joe,
I’ll give you an NFL news scoop once it’s officially announced. The inside story.
February 16th, 2014 at 5:45 pm
LOL! 🙂
February 16th, 2014 at 5:47 pm
Joe will have something tomorrow which details why people pant over one.
February 16th, 2014 at 5:48 pm
A scoop is not a scoop if the story is already public.
February 16th, 2014 at 5:53 pm
Maybe u guys should get a windows phone. No problems whatsover.
February 16th, 2014 at 5:54 pm
@joe,
I agree, better stated the details of the evolution.
February 16th, 2014 at 5:57 pm
Joe,
Reality belongs to the GM and Head coach right now, it’s in there hands.
Fantasy Land is made of dreams.
Maybe you and Johnny should get together with your vodka and dream of
“what if”
BUCS go defense, and then fill the holes on offense.
But thanks for your opinion about QBs ONCE AGAIN
February 16th, 2014 at 6:04 pm
David Hannum (not P.T. Barnum) said, “There’s a sucker born every minute”!
February 16th, 2014 at 6:04 pm
@StPeteBucsFan Says:
“…I just do not get this obsession with a QB in the first round…. The PROFESSIONALS who earn their living evaluating talent are below 50% in the freaking first round…”
Its really VERY SIMPLE. Lets first agree on a couple of things: FA is not going to get you a long term franchise QB – Vick is this years best choice. Getting lucky like Seattle, finding a top QB in the 3rd rd, is RARE, it could take YEARS of drafting QBs and you still probably won’t hit on one. Stats show that QBs taken beyond the first 7 picks have a success rate of less than 15%. As you point out, 1st rd QBs are only 50%..
BUT, if you want a long term franchise QB, the BEST way to get one is in the top 7 picks (this year, probably top 5). Since the Bucs are drafting at 7, THIS YEAR is our best chance to get one for the forseeable future, and it still would likely involve trading up. To go from 7 to say 2 is likely 1 to 2 add’l first rod picks.
NOW, lets say MG8 sucks this year. But with Lovie, we are likely to do well, maybe a 8-8 record, right? So that means we will be drafting in the middle of the round then. If thats the case, how are you going to get a franchise QB after this year if we are drafting so low??? Trading up would be almost impossible.
That is the reason for the obsession.
February 16th, 2014 at 6:05 pm
Just no way Johnny drops to 7. Not with 4 QB hungry teams in front of us. If Lovie and Licht really want him they won’t be holding their breath and hoping for Johnny Boy to land in their laps at No. 7, they would trade up for him. And I just don’t see that happening, they would have to give up the farm for him, and pray he doesn’t play recklessly and get injured like RGlll did, and Johnny Boy is smaller than him.
Now if Johnny Boy falls to No. 7 miraculously, go ahead and take him. That way we don’t have to give up anything. But again, look who pick ahead of the Bucs, its a pipe dream. And besides, QB is arguably not even our biggest need Joe had a couple articles supporting that.
February 16th, 2014 at 6:06 pm
Joe writes what interests Joe. Johnny Football playing for the Bucs keeps Joe awake at night.
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EWWWW! That’s just weirdly bizarre. Nothing about the Bucs, or any sports team for that matter, has ever kept lightningbuc awake at night, let alone a particular GUY that does or potentially might play for them!
February 16th, 2014 at 6:11 pm
Joe….. don’t you have inside sources? What The Interest Level At One buc?
February 16th, 2014 at 6:15 pm
Snook:
Current regime under lockdown.
February 16th, 2014 at 6:29 pm
Joe, I got to hand it to you. Your persistence on this topic seems boundless. Props to you.
Even is Johny Football can “remake” his image off the field, I still don’t see what he has done at the college level will translate to the pros. This opinion does not make me a MGM member or a lesser Bucs fan. MG8 needs competition from somewhere, just not from Johny Football.
No, no, no to Johny “Spoiled Rotten” Football.
February 16th, 2014 at 6:29 pm
just because you don’t have the mental make-up to comprehend the reasons doesn’t mean they don’t exist. that’s all on you bud , not us , cuz we get it.
February 16th, 2014 at 6:30 pm
Actually our best shot at a francise QB is next year….there are many weak teams that won’t be drafting a QB next year….some of the same teams that are picking one this year.
We will have Winston, Marriota & Hundley coming out. Even we are back to 15-18 with our pick (my prediction) I think we will have a shot at one of them.
February 16th, 2014 at 6:36 pm
If we have a chance to get him, let’s get him. If the asking price (trade up) is not too high. Let him compete with MG8. That should up Mike’s game a lot.
February 16th, 2014 at 6:36 pm
It would be so exciting to draft the 4th best QB in the division. Then he can lead us to 4th place division titles and missed playoffs for the next few years. With Johnny Football we wouldn’t even need WRs that can run routes, we can just develop a new offensive scheme where Johnny runs around after the snap and WRs just run around randomly. Powerhouses like Cleveland, Oakland and Buffalo will see how successful this new style is and the owners will fire GMs and HCs that don’t agree. We would be destined for greatness!
February 16th, 2014 at 6:36 pm
Pretty sure Winston will play 2 more years at FSU and might go Bo Jackson.
February 16th, 2014 at 6:51 pm
lightningbuc Says
“Why are we subjected to this type of drivel? This guy doesn’t even play for the Bucs. Are you going to run the same amount of articles on Bortles, Clowney, Bridgewater…”
Actually, Joe…Lightning brings up a good point. I wouldn’t mind finding out more about the potential first and second round QBs in this draft.
I don’t mind the Johnny Football posts though. Clearly, even though people whine about them, they must actually enjoy them because those are the articles that get the most comments.
February 16th, 2014 at 6:53 pm
@ Walkdaplank
I didn’t think Winston was that good of a baseball player…..& with his talent and ability to be drafted high….I don’t think he stays in school & risks injury.
February 16th, 2014 at 6:53 pm
Plank:
Sure smells like Winston is setting himself up to play baseball. Can’t say Joe blames him.
February 16th, 2014 at 6:56 pm
Tampabaybucfan Says
“Actually our best shot at a francise QB is next year…”
I see your point about there not being so many other teams seeking a franchise QB in next year’s draft…but here’s my thought:
I think that Lovie will have a winning record this year, mostly because of defense. If the draft a QB in this draft, and then in round 2 get a WR…and a DE in Free Agency, I doubt we will be in such a good position to draft one next year. So there could only be 3-4 teams seeking QBs and that would be enough to keep us from getting one of the guys you mentioned.
Because if the Bucs have a winning record, we won’t be picking before the 20th pick.
Also, anything can happen with those QBs this year. They may fall apart. Maybe one does poorly, maybe two. That would still put a premium on the others.
Which would reduce our chances even more.
So we have to take a guy this year…while we are in position to.
February 16th, 2014 at 7:00 pm
Manchild the fourth best QB in the NFC South division … lol
February 16th, 2014 at 7:07 pm
8====D
February 16th, 2014 at 7:14 pm
@ Bonzai
I see your points and you could be right….but if 3 qbs are drafted in the top 5 this year…..I see possibilites next year regardless of our position..
If you think we will do 20th position or better with our defense alone….maybe we don’t need a QB.
February 16th, 2014 at 7:35 pm
I’ve been force fed enough of this crap. See you in a few months….. Maybe
February 16th, 2014 at 7:46 pm
JF doesn’t even want to play in Tampa. He’s been threatening Houston if they won’t select him he’ll end up drafted by Jacksonville and if that happens he will personally make life HELL for Houston twice a year. Talk about vying to be selected #1. This guy is a one trick pony. He will leave what ever team he ends up on sitting at the altar. He even claims he’s better than Russell Wilson. Wait till he’s being chased around every weekend by bigger players that are almost all sub 4.8 second speed. This ain’t college, and he’s smaller than he says he is. Oh yes I agree, he’ll be fun to watch but it will be like watching a chicken with his head cut off.
February 16th, 2014 at 7:49 pm
Another Joe loves Johnny article, this is getting tiresome. Maybe I’ll just come back to this site after the draft is over and this nonsense is ended with him being on an NFL team and it not being the Bucs
February 16th, 2014 at 7:51 pm
What’s worse is this kid won’t be a Buc, Joe knows this, and still puts up this non Buc crap.
It’s almost like, well, lol I don’t even have to write it.
February 16th, 2014 at 7:52 pm
Go ahead Bucs braintrust, make whatever moves necessary to get Manziel at any cost. then we would be guaranteed al least a great backup QB one way or another, seriously.
February 16th, 2014 at 7:54 pm
it was humorous, now it’s getting just sad.
finally moved on from Rachel at least.
February 16th, 2014 at 7:55 pm
Joe: like Schiano lock down or standard new staff lock down?
February 16th, 2014 at 8:04 pm
THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL THAT MANZIEL IS GOING TO GET PASSED CLEVELAND, JACKSONVILLE, OR OAKLAND…..dear sweet football lord….how about we focus on players that actually have a chance at making our roster.
DO YOU REALLY THINK, that Lovie, a defensive first guy, is going to go all in for a quarterback???? He has said over and over that you can win without an “elite QB”. IF there is ANY chance of Lovie going all in it’s for the best rated DE coming out of college in a LONG time…
Stop dreaming that Manziel is going to take you to Prom Joe, he’s going with somebody else way before we ever get a shot…
February 16th, 2014 at 8:13 pm
Furthermore, can someone help out whatever team does draft Manziel by forwarding them to JohnnyBucsFan over here, the last 4 months+ of content on this kid should keep them entertained for a while…meanwhile us Bucs fans are going to say “Who?” when we draft #7. From this blog alone I thought Johnny Football was the only player in college.
How about Eric Ebron?
How about Jake Matthews or G. Robinson?
How about Mike Evans (sorry Sammy Watkins is gone before #7)
How about Aaron Murray late in the draft?
How about news about ANY player not named Johnny Manziel?
You are just absolutely crazy if you think Houston is passing on Manziel, the Texans fans damn near rioted when they passed on Reggie Bush for Mario Williams at #1, they go offense without question.
February 16th, 2014 at 8:17 pm
mariota sucks! Winston might not enter next year. so how is next year’s class better?
this year for qb!
February 16th, 2014 at 8:21 pm
So you’re telling me this guy is saying all the right things right before a big payday? Who is this Mans agent because he is doing all the right thing….. Wait…. That’s something new from this agent lmao
February 16th, 2014 at 8:23 pm
I am on the Maziel bandwagon. I have been suggesting that if I were the GM, head coach, and owners, that I would be talking right now to Houston and St.Louis about trading up to get this guy. Every draft pick is a gamble, if you hit on Manziel as I think we would, then you have your starting QB for 10 to 15 years. In my opinion a superstar QB that has it going on. The guy is cocky as hell, has that it factor, he is a winner!
February 16th, 2014 at 8:27 pm
he’s nothing in the pros
February 16th, 2014 at 8:28 pm
a big fat ?
February 16th, 2014 at 8:28 pm
No one knows for sure, I would be ECSTATIC if he came to Tampa, there’s just no chance in hell he’s available in time. If we didn’t lose the strength of schedule tiebreaker and were say, picking at #4 then yeah let’s talk all day about him, but there is NO chance he’s available and NO chance a defensive minded head coach endorses going all in for him. Manziel is just irrational barring a complete and total all in move, which I just don’t see. Other teams want him too, teams like Jacksonville and Cleveland who have almost 0 star talent and need to sell more tickets. Tampa is hurting but not like those cities.
Licht said he’d be in Lovie’s office everyday to convince him to pick a player that he liked if Lovie was against it…..Joe, are you in Licht’s office everyday or have you bogarded his electronic devices to force-feed JBF to him all day.
February 16th, 2014 at 8:30 pm
all the draftees are a big fat ?
February 16th, 2014 at 8:32 pm
Again.
February 16th, 2014 at 8:38 pm
Go with the fast wide out or the best De bottom line
February 16th, 2014 at 9:31 pm
Yes but no one is acting as if the other draftees are a hall of famer who has won 6 superbowls already lol smh
Get real, Manziel is the least of the QB’s coming in we should get.
Blake’s even a better bet than that leprechaun.
I’m all for a pocket passer who can move, that’s what I wan’t, just not Manchild.
February 16th, 2014 at 9:32 pm
It can happen. Trade up and get the guy.
This kid is going to be a star. It’s obvious from watching him dismantle the SEC like nobody I’ve ever seen.
I agree Joe, the hatred comes from those who couldn’t get laid in a woman’s prison.
Think Joe Willie Namath or Kenny Stabler didn’t have fun in college? What the hell is wrong with it anyhow?
February 16th, 2014 at 9:34 pm
All hail the best QB to ever play pro football already!!!!!
February 16th, 2014 at 9:37 pm
You could be the ugliest thing on earth and get laid with some fame, lose that ignoramous argument lol.
February 16th, 2014 at 9:40 pm
Jamarcus Russell used to dismantle the SEC too.
February 16th, 2014 at 9:41 pm
I forgot the SEC is the end all be all of the pros…
February 16th, 2014 at 9:47 pm
Russell!
Hahahahahaha…..
Man you guys kill me. Don’t like a kid you have never met in your life.
Saban says he’s one of the best players he’s gone against in 40 years of coaching. Almost gave him a heart attack. And u folks want to stick with the leader of the absolute worse offense in pro football.
Amazing.
February 16th, 2014 at 9:47 pm
@prbucfan
actually, clowney is more hyped than manziel. “greatest de in the last 10 years” really, seriously. he disappeared in too many games.
February 16th, 2014 at 9:49 pm
any of the top 5 qb’s will be better than Geoffrey “pocket statue” glennon, including manziel.
February 16th, 2014 at 9:49 pm
The SEC has won the national title seven out of last eight years. Bamas defense is pro like.
Couldn’t do a thing vs. Johnny football.
Maybe that doesn’t impress you. It does me!
February 16th, 2014 at 9:50 pm
lol Agree to disagree Lurk
All hail the best QB to ever play pro football already who hasn’t set a foot in a pro minicamp!!!!
Yes if Saban and the SEC dubs them, they must be so ahahaha.
Saban was sure a great pro success…
February 16th, 2014 at 9:51 pm
“Don’t like a kid you have never met in your life.”
So, Eric, you’ve met Glennon?
February 16th, 2014 at 9:52 pm
Yet the Aggies didn’t even make the championship…
Surely the demi-God manchild could will his team single handily at the very least to the championship which the ACC won.
lolol
February 16th, 2014 at 9:53 pm
I’m not discussing Glennon right now
February 16th, 2014 at 9:55 pm
First pic Joe’s posted of Johnny without a chic……I think Johnny likes to pose with the ladies to hide his homosexuality.
Michael Sam may have a partner in his parade.
Just thought I’d stir things up a bit!!!
February 16th, 2014 at 9:57 pm
Or surely the demi-God manchild whom is so supreme over all things football related ever deemed football related had to of won a second Heisman…
After all he’s that special!
February 16th, 2014 at 10:00 pm
Chick…..
February 16th, 2014 at 10:00 pm
Yea…
Oh wells, the biggest waste of non-Buc related news ever.
The Leprechaun.
Time for TWD, y’all have a goodnight!
February 16th, 2014 at 10:11 pm
So here are the guys who are certain to go before we pick (not necessarily in this order):
Clowney
Matthews
Bridgewater
Bortles
Manziel
Watkins
Given that those are 90% certainties, can we please hear about some players who will actually be there at #7 for a change? I’m tired of peoples favorite players and just want some solid insight. And no, the Bucs are NOT picking Carr, so leave him off the list.
The top-rated players remaining seem to be:
Robinson
Mack
Mosley
Barr
Lewan
Evans
Dennard
Lee
It’s more likely we end up with one of those guys, not the ones at the top of this post. Let’s be real.
February 16th, 2014 at 10:13 pm
Just read where there are rumors the Bucs are going to trade up to draft Clowney. That would be so cool. Heck, let Clowney play QB, fine by me!!
February 16th, 2014 at 10:18 pm
No I’ve never met Glennon and have no reason to dispute the narrative that he’s a great person with a monstrous work ethic.
I only judge him as a layman, not an expert, from what I see on the field.
Same with Johnny Football.
You guys are the ones wigged out cause a guy parties in college.
February 16th, 2014 at 10:18 pm
Yeah, throw away our draft to get one player, ala Mike Ditka and Ricky Williams. Because, you know, we are only one DE away from greatness. Real smart move that would be.
February 16th, 2014 at 10:45 pm
@Eric – He played well against one of the best defenses in college football, yes. But how do you explain those games against Missouri and LSU in which he collapsed?
February 16th, 2014 at 10:57 pm
I think Bucs would have to trade up to #2 to ensure Clowney or possibly get JF (if the Texans don’t take him). Of course, we all know this. Just too bad Bucs won that Dolphin game on MNF and started their little streak. Wasn’t worth it.
February 16th, 2014 at 11:08 pm
Who on earth thought it would be a good idea to have the draft as far out as may? Damn the suspense is killing me!!!!!!
February 16th, 2014 at 11:22 pm
@mitsurugi Says:
“…Just too bad Bucs won that Dolphin game on MNF and started their little streak. Wasn’t worth it…”
I totally agree. I suggested at the time that it would be better if we lost and I caught hell for it. Now, I feel a little vindicated. But whatever. I have to admit, it felt good to beat the Doll-fans
February 16th, 2014 at 11:42 pm
No QB plays great every week. Brady looked bad in the AFC Championship game, Winston was shaky in Title game, manning was made to look foolish in the Super Bowl.
Do I expect Johnny Football to light it up every week? Of course not. The defensive coordinators in this league will try and confuse him and they will no doubt succeed. Always do.
But, on a whole the kid has been brilliant and , IMO, he would bring a skill set far greater than Mike Glennon to the position and greatly enhance our chances of having another Super Bowl party at the stadium.
That’s all I’m sayin.
February 17th, 2014 at 12:14 am
Joe its your site and if you want to draft Jonny Manziel you have every right to tell us. I happen to agree with you . Im tired of all these have to have great players around him to have success QB s . For once lets have a play making guy thats dynamic and exciting. Sounds like fun. Believe me as a 25 year season ticket holder i know what bad QB play looks like.
February 17th, 2014 at 12:16 am
and again.
February 17th, 2014 at 12:20 am
Exactly!!!
February 17th, 2014 at 12:48 am
Johnny Boy articles always bring in a lot of traffic, though it’s not always pro-Johnny comments rather than debates. Maybe that’s why Joe keeps posting so many on him.
So you really think that somehow Johnny Football draws people to this site on a Sunday afternoon in February out of thin air? Joe must be missing something. Because that’s not happening. –Joe
February 17th, 2014 at 1:13 am
You cannot keep comparing people to Brady and Manning. Glennon or Johnny Boy, it’s really getting old. Glennon’s stats may be similar or better than theirs, but the situations were far different. Johnny Boy has yet to even be drafted let alone take a snap in tge NFL yet people somehow believe he is destined for greatness.
Look, I don’t think Manziel will be Ryan Leaf or Tim Tebow. But I do have doubts how his game will translate to the pros. His size is a concern as well. Look what has happened to frequently running QB’s lately. Vick and RGlll can’t stay healthy and Aaron Rodgers was significantly sidelined this year, and they are bigger than Johnny Boy. Cam Newton got figured out in 2011 and suffered a sophomore slump. This year he had to work more on passing. Fortunately for the Panthers, he found a way to make it work. And he is huge compared to Johnny Boy. Tim Tebow proved that you have to have at least a decent arm to be a successful running QB ( Manziel can throw though). Johnny Boy is going to have to run a lot less if he wants to stay healthy. Can he translate that passing game like Newton did? Can he play without being reckless like RGlll with his running and do his teammates a solid by staying on the field rather than the sidelines?
It’s a gamble. And I just don’t see Lovie or Licht taking such a gamble by trading the farm to get him. Now if he somehow slides to No. 7, that’s a whole different story.
February 17th, 2014 at 2:26 am
Joe
Since you follow JFF so closely why won’t he throw at the combine or Texas A&M’s pro day? Sure not many QBs throw at the combine because of unfamiliar WRs but this kid is having his own Pro Day, were he can probably script the throws he makes for the NFL scouts and hide his flaws.
Can you explain that Joe?
February 17th, 2014 at 3:54 am
he had scouts at his games…h doesn’t need to throw. more qb’s et al are doing this if hey are highly ranked on the boards. ok mo? huh, mo, ok?
February 17th, 2014 at 5:58 am
Folks have said over and over that they want a qb that doesn’t need to have talent around him to be great. So I tried thinking of a qb that fits that description who you could be thinking of as someone you would want to see in Tampa. I’m at a loss. I can’t think of a qb who is so great that they’re able to carry the team themselves without having solid play around them. The closest I can think of is Brady. that guy is in the to the all time discussion so just expecting us to go get that is silly. Who else can have success at qb in the league ask by themselves? Who else was able to carry a tram to a great record with players on the team that don’t belong in the league?
February 17th, 2014 at 7:17 am
Draft Johnny Football.
He is destined for greatness.
February 17th, 2014 at 8:55 am
Can anyone give me one legitimate reason why Houston would not take Johnny Football with the #1 pick?
February 17th, 2014 at 9:29 am
For everyone saying the Bucs should trade up; let’s get real! First there has to be a team willing to drop all the way down to #7 and there is none. Then the Bucs would have to have the additional picks to make the trade happen. The Bucs don’t. So; the top teams won’t and the Bucs can’t. Unless Johnny drops at least to 5th we’re just living a dream.
February 17th, 2014 at 11:14 am
Trade up for Manziel. It’s not like we’ve struck gold with many of our later round picks anyway.