Lovie Seems To Be Counting On Revis
February 27th, 2014
Boy, this teams-calling-the-Bucs-for-Darrelle-Revis saga has sure touched off a sore point of sorts with Bucs fans. It’s taken over the starting-quarterback squabble. In fact, it has even pushed combine news off the front burner.
Bucs fans seem split. Half want Revis shipped off; the other think think that would be the work of the devil.
Then, there are those who believe the Bucs want to ship Revis off. This seems to fly in the face of what the faces of the Bucs have said in recent days, general manager Jason Licht and coach Lovie Smith.
Joe has gone through his notes of the time he spent with Lovie and Licht (not long enough to determine if they prefer their beers in bottles or draft) last week. But in going through Joe’s notes, whenever the topic defense is brought up, Revis’ name is also brought up. Lovie, in his group media access at the NFL Scouting Combine, had the following to say about the Bucs defense when asked by a Chicago reporter if the defense of the Bucs reminds him of the defense he inherited when he took over the Bears.
“Man, that’s a long time ago in ’04,” Lovie said. “As I recall, Lance Briggs, Brian Urlacher, Charles Tillman, some of those guys where there and that’s a pretty good foundation to start with. And I know right now, Gerald McCoy, Lavonte David, Darrelle Revis, Dashon Goldson, there are a few guys in place right now so there was a great foundation in place in both places.”
Doesn’t sound like a man who is itching to ship Revis out, does it?
Then there is this from Woody Cummings of the Tampa Tribune, who had a private audience with Lovie last week and he found this quote from Lovie in his notes.
@RCummingsTBO: Said Lovie: “We’re primarily going to be a man team. Whether we win or lose is going to be based on how we play man coverage.”
Guess who one of the best man-cover corners in the NFL is? You guessed it, Revis.
Now is Licht going to listen to offers for Revis? Sure he is. But don’t bank on Revis being shipped quite yet. Barring someone pulling a Mike Ditka and completely knocking Licht for a loop, Revis is likely staying.
People seem to forget how horrific the Bucs secondary was before Revis arrived. Anyone remember Eli Manning going all Dan Marino on steroids against the Bucs? Manning torched Aqib Talib so badly in that game, the Giants had to replace the FieldTurf from the burn marks. There is no need to revisit that horror show.
February 27th, 2014 at 8:07 am
I like Revis, however his contract just seems out of proportion for the results on the field. I would like to see Revis stay, but I think the Bucs are stuck with that fat contract.
February 27th, 2014 at 8:14 am
The way Revis’ contract is structured (5 more year by year deals) Revis will be the subject of trade talks every year. So, this is the first. I think teams are interested because they know he has fully recoverd from his injury.
Personally, I would like to see us keep him. Is he being paid too much?….yes….but so are many….at least he performs well.
February 27th, 2014 at 8:18 am
Well according to Joe, Revis is the only player that can play man coverage. The problem for trading Revis is finding a team willing to give up draft picks and absorb his monster contract.
February 27th, 2014 at 8:24 am
Let’s see what kind of shake up we have with the rest of the team before we start talking about the impact that Revis’ contract has on the team. If we clear up a lot of cap space in other places by getting rid of people that aren’t pro bowlers but are getting paid a ton then we can keep the guy that is now back to his normal playing level. If the team looks largely the same as it does now come training camp then it might be time to consider letting him go
February 27th, 2014 at 8:29 am
There is no reason to trade Revis. The cap is going from 123 million to 135 million or more. You can never have to many good corners and Revis is the best.
February 27th, 2014 at 8:33 am
Joe,
Just an FYI! Don’t want to be the typo police, but a couple times in the article the GMs name shows as Light. Have a feeling it is a spell checker thing that doesn’t like Licht.
February 27th, 2014 at 8:34 am
We can cut Nicks and even Goldson (GROSSLY overpaid) to make up for the money we’re paying Revis. I would also like to see M Williams gone before we overpay him. We need to keep the best cover corner in football, fill up defensively through free agency and our 1st round pick. After the 1st round, the rest of our draft needs to switch to the offensive side of the ball. We have too many needs in a draft deep on the offensive side of the ball: OT, G, TE, WR, QB. Draft a nucleus of young players to grow under Tedford’s system.
February 27th, 2014 at 8:34 am
What do we care, as fans, for the contract a player is given? This is totally up to the organization. The Bucs are still well under the cap, so who gives a damn what our all-pro cornerback makes?
Besides, if you want to dump salary, there is a whole OL that is far more overpaid than our all-pro, shutdown corner.
February 27th, 2014 at 8:40 am
That this is even a debate is crazy to me. When we made the trade, almost ALL the “analysts” were on the side of us getting a great deal. I was certainly excited. The Bucs can certainly afford it – we don’t (unfortunately) have a monster QB contract we have to pay on like Aaron Rogers ($22M), or Flacco and Brees ($20M). Do you realize Calvin Johnson is paid $19M and Mario Williams gets $16M? Even with what Revis is getting paid, we still have lots of cap space. If Mario gets $16M, what is GMC worth? You are about to find out. Are you then going to dog him too?
We are so fortunate to have Revis; he is a future HOFer – so rare to get a player like him. Would you not be ecstatic if we were in the SB and Revis shuts down Megatron?
February 27th, 2014 at 8:44 am
Had a long talk about this yesterday with 2 writers (one fantasy guy and one staff guy), the only consensus they could find is there is 50 plus days till the draft and Revis is not going anywhere, he effectively reduces the opponents passing offense to their #2 & #3 WRs and TEs , which means young Mr. Banks and whoever is our nickel our LBs & Safeties had better step up in coverage.
February 27th, 2014 at 8:44 am
@Harry – seems like you and i are largely like minded when not talking about a QB. That’s good. Means there’s hope for you to be rehabilitated 😉
February 27th, 2014 at 9:07 am
Okay, I realize there are fringe Bucs fans who don’t gather as much information as they possibly can, but it gets frustrating seeing suggestions that make no sense.
Nic Says
“We can cut Nicks and even Goldson (GROSSLY overpaid) to make up for the money we’re paying Revis. I would also like to see M Williams gone before we overpay him.”
Nic, buddy, I would love to get rid of Goldson, but not because of money. Even if Lovie is capable of getting him to play right, the man has run his mouth so much that the refs target him in every game. Take a look at the plays he got called for penalties on and then watch the Superbowl. You will see countless plays that the refs did not call penalties. Plays that they would have if it were Goldson.
As to Nicks, yes, we have overpaid him, but we would be stuck paying him nearly as much if we cut him. IF a team would trade for him, we would be spared the cap hit, but knowing his injurieno one would offer a trade. Especially with his salary.
And Mike Williams already has his contract.
Fringe fans here he got in trouble and want to get rid of him. The ONLY trouble he’s gotten into is for $200 damage to a door. The case will be dropped because it is a civil matter. Have you seen repaair costs these days? You could scrape the paint on a door and repainting it would cost that much.
Wanting to get rid of him is ignorant. Truthfully, even if we brought in a player to take his position, he could become one of the best middle guys around.
February 27th, 2014 at 9:08 am
As long as he doesn’t compromise our next big signing (McCoy+LVD) I’m ok with it but I still think that Revis isn’t worth 16M$/year + 1st rnd + 3rd rnd this year + our 3rd back from the trade. They need to listen to offer. Plus Revis isn’t an idiot. If an immediate SuperBowl contender wants him, he may be willing to lower the number just to get its ring. That’s something that even 16M$ can’t buy. Now if we want him to lower it’s 16M$ contract then Lovie will need to demonstrate him that he knows how to craft a SB contender in TB
February 27th, 2014 at 9:12 am
flmike, I wouldn’t expect too big a leap from Banks this year. Most corners take 3-5 years to develop. Ronde sucked until his fifth year. I think it was his contract year (not sure).
February 27th, 2014 at 9:12 am
@Bonzai – I don’t know if I put it all on Goldson. Schiano definitely rubbed a lot of officials the wrong way and was disrespectful to them. Goldson was an easy target because he already had a history. I don’t think they’ll be quite as nit-picky this year now that they’re not trying to stick it to Schiano
February 27th, 2014 at 9:15 am
bucsQcCity, there is only one 3rd rounder, not 2. If he is traded, we would still have to give a 4th.
February 27th, 2014 at 9:19 am
@Bonzai.. right thanks for clarifying
February 27th, 2014 at 9:21 am
THANK YOU!!!!!!!
So tired of the morons who “blah blah blah Tampa 2 don’t play man blah blah blah”
Suck it, idiots.
February 27th, 2014 at 9:23 am
Bottomline, the Bucs need to restructure Revis’ contract. He is making way too much money. Yes, the Bucs can afford to pay him 6 million more than any other corner in the league right now, but that extra cap money they have can dry up quickly. Remember, We need to have money to re-sign McCoy and David. Both of those guys are going to demand big bucks. I just don’t see a scenario where you can pay all 3 of these guys top dollar and still have enough money to fill the voids on offense and be able to be aggressive in free agency. I would tell Revis that we need to knock his contract down to $12 or $13 mil a year (tops… still millions more than the next corner) or else look to be shipped somewhere else.
February 27th, 2014 at 9:24 am
Patrick in VA, he came with a target on his back. He ran his mouth before he came, saying, “I’m not going to change the way I play for anyone.”
It is ALL on him, because he kept saying the same when he came here. Had he just kept his mouth shut it would not be as bad.
Schiano actually tried to get him to wrap up more and avoid the penalties. Rewatch the games and you will see Goldson trying to hit within the rules, but the refs called the penalties anyway.
Schiano wasn’t nearly as bad as people claim. His militant coaching style did not mesh, and he was making a change from college to pro, so he made some mistakes. But he can’t be blamed for everything that went wrong.
Goldson brought his own issues. Dominick could be blamed because he signed him knowing about the isues.
February 27th, 2014 at 9:25 am
So tired of all these “insiders” who aren’t smart enough to go watch TAPE of Lovie’s defense in Chicago. F-in MORONS.
HINT: They rarely ran a TRUE Cover 2/Tampa 2.
February 27th, 2014 at 9:31 am
@Bonzai – I’m not discounting that Goldson was in the wrong for tackling improperly. Most others in the league have adapted and other teams didn’t struggle with it nearly as bad as we did and most of our issues came directly from him. It especially didn’t help his case that he publicly refused to change anything after being heavily penalized and fined. I just have a hard time thinking that they weren’t looking extra closely to penalize a Schiano run team. The reports may have been overblown but the fact that they were talking about it at all meant that he had to have done some significant burning of bridges. You didn’t hear anything about Pete Carroll or Chip Kelly having refs talking about how they didn’t like working games that they did after they switched.
I may not be right but i have a feeling it at least played a part.
February 27th, 2014 at 9:35 am
1. Marques Colston
2. Julio Jones
3. Steve Smith
These receivers can be pretty much neutralized in 6 divisional games people. The cap room is helping us pay Revis. Lets get back to Buccaneer football with a dominant defense.
February 27th, 2014 at 9:35 am
@Patrick in VA Says:
“…Harry – seems like you and i are largely like minded when not talking about a QB. That’s good. Means there’s hope for you to be rehabilitated”
I feel the same way Patrick. Your a smart guy; I never gave up hope for you. I am just waiting for you to stop drinking that Glennon Kool-Aid so we can figure out which QB to draft with our 1st rd pick this year hehe
February 27th, 2014 at 9:36 am
Foozball is the Devil
February 27th, 2014 at 9:36 am
Nate_tweetz Says
“Bottomline, the Bucs need to restructure Revis’ contract.”
I understand your point, but here’s the thing. If they restructure they would lose the right to cut him each year without penalty. He would still make the same amount of money, it would just be spread over the contract to make it more cap friendly.
And there is no way he will take less money. We’re talking about a guy that rose a stink every year with the Jets because he wanted $15-$16 mil per year.
Better to keep him through this year and bring in a young guy to groom. Now that Revis is fully healed, his value will increase and we’ll get better offers next year.
I don’t like him getting paid so much either, but it is worth it because his current contract gives us the option of cutting him each year to clear up a huge chunk of space. We just need to groom a replacement first.
Bare in mind, we need 3 good CBs now. So don’t be surprised if we keep him even if we bring in another.
February 27th, 2014 at 9:40 am
@Harry – It tastes so good. When it touches your lips it’s so good
February 27th, 2014 at 9:42 am
Oh, and David will not get his contract this year. No need. He can’t go anywhere.
I do think they need to lock up GMC before Suh gets a contract, but really that can wait as well. McCoy is in a contract year and the Bucs can franchise him next year if they can’t make a deal in time. He’s never been franchised so it can be done threee times if needed.
So there is no real emergency there either.
February 27th, 2014 at 9:47 am
I’d keep Revis…unless someone makes a ridiculously strong offer that’s just too good to pass up (I.e. Two #1’s and a #2, or something along those lines)
February 27th, 2014 at 9:58 am
@Harry…my only issue is that Revis will never shut down megatron in the Superbowl. Both are NFC teams and CJ is not going anywhere. Ever.
February 27th, 2014 at 10:03 am
The Bucs are stuck with Revis. No team is going to take on his franchise QB contract. If you get rid of Revis who is going to replace him? The only alternative the Bucs have is to restructure his contract with more bonus money up front and a lower salary cap hit.
The biggest problem with Revis, is his contract it ties the GM’s hands in regards to adding FA’s. “If” the Bucs had a franchise QB to pay Revis would most likely be gone. The old regime bid against themselves for Revis and grossly overpaid for him coming off a knee injury. Another Popstar f&ck up!
February 27th, 2014 at 10:07 am
@MTM – Whether Glennon is our future starter or we draft our next guy going forward, we have a few years before they’re out from under their rookie contracts so the Revis deal isn’t keeping us from a QB, if that’s what you were getting at.
February 27th, 2014 at 10:10 am
The Revis deal will take care of itself. We will do one of 3 things, trade him, re-do his current contract or do nothing! I’m in no matter which way they go!
I would like for the Bucs to pursue D’Qwell Jackson. He’s a 3 down Mike LB that has something left in the tank at 30 (London Fletcher played at a high level at 38), and he’s a hometown guy. Hails from Largo or Seminole, I think.
We already have Revis, he’s healthy (so he says), we’ve got cap space, and Lovie reiterated yesterday that he fits the scheme they’re going to run. This is not a problem. We have bigger issues! Makes for good conversation tho!
February 27th, 2014 at 10:36 am
@Macabee
I with you on D’Qwell. He would fix the middle so that we can move Foster to the Strong side. He has at least a good 4-5 years left in him. No off the field issues and a team leader. I don’t think he would cost much, probably around 4-5 million a year.
February 27th, 2014 at 10:43 am
Shipping out Revis is insane (unless a team goes Ditka on us) Revis played well last year, not great, but well. Now consider this: a 100% healthy Revis, and a D-line that actually puts pressure on the QB consistently. QB pressure is a DB’s best friend. He is going to shut a lot of receivers down this year.
February 27th, 2014 at 10:44 am
There is no reason to trade Revis so soon after acquiring him..We haven’t even had the chance to see how he plays when he is 100%. He was one of PFF’s best cover corners last year (pay for the subscription and look it up). When you have a player this good, the defensive scheme is tailored around them, so we’ll be fine in that aspect don’t worry. Revis’s contract is such that there is no money guaranteed on the Bucs part, so they are already have the upper hand in the contract. This is just a smoke screen, and nothing will (or should) come from it unless a team offers two 1st’s and at least a 2nd, which no one will do so it’s a moot point. As a new coach and GM, you simply can not trade your best player without first hand experience of how he fits into their scheme. If you lose Revis, the Bucs are back to their 32nd ranked pass defense. Statistically, Revis was one of the best corners in the league last year, so he obviously has talent regardless of scheme..It’s tough to appear “good” to the casual NFL fan when teams only throw to your side about 5 times a game
February 27th, 2014 at 10:49 am
The Revis situation is all upside since we have the cap room.
Worst case is we deal him, stock up on picks and backfill with a quality veteran FA. Best case is he stays and plays mostly man press coverage.
The coach and GM speak is all posturing just as it always has been.
February 27th, 2014 at 11:01 am
@Patrick in VA Says:
“…Harry – It tastes so good. When it touches your lips it’s so good”
I understand Patrick. But it destroys your brain to the point that you are so delusional that MG8 looks like a great QB!!! Very dangerous stuff man!
February 27th, 2014 at 11:02 am
Josh W- in the match-up against the Lions Johnson was held to 2 catches for 25 yards in the first half until Revis was injured and did not come back. CJs a beast and NO corner will completely shut him down. But, I will take my chances with Revis over any other corner not named Revis!
February 27th, 2014 at 11:05 am
@Josh W Says:
“…Harry…my only issue is that Revis will never shut down megatron in the Superbowl. Both are NFC teams and CJ is not going anywhere. Ever.”
Good point Josh that I admit did not even cross my mind. I was more focused on our $16M CB shutting down the $19M WR. It just seemed like that demonstrates to some degree why you make an investment in a CB like that.
February 27th, 2014 at 11:06 am
@Harry – I don’t know man, it seems like there are some of the talking heads that are cooling to this QB class as far as their actual talents and value. They’re still saying that they’ll be drafted high because of the premium that’s placed on the position but they, like me, think that time will prove it to be a lackluster class of QBs. Glennon might not be the answer but neither are any of these guys. Let’s get a better player in another position if we’re going to have a so-so QB anyway
February 27th, 2014 at 11:08 am
Bucsfanman, I think Josh W was more about busting my balls that 2 NFC teams are not going to go to the SB, I think (not completely sure…), then he was saying Revis could not shut down Megatron.
February 27th, 2014 at 11:11 am
Revis claimed at the Pro Bowl he is finally feels 100% healthy. Now, that makes me excited to see what a real million dollar a game cornerback looks like.
Or ….do we sell high now?
If Revis comes back down from Mount Olympus and has an average year, his stock will crash and we’ll end up unloading him for peanuts in comparison to now..
Personally, I was a little disappointed in some of his play last year, but now that he says he is healthy, I’m ready to be entertained with brilliance.
Is the glass half empty or is it half full? It all depends on how Lovie and the gang perceive Revis’s role. …keep him, or sell high?
I’m so glad I don’t have to make that decision. 🙂
February 27th, 2014 at 11:21 am
This is pretty simple. It all depends on what Lovie’s & Licht’s plan is along with the Glazers. If they are wanting to win right now (which I think they are), you clearly have to keep Revis. If they are looking to win in a year or 2, you trade him.
February 27th, 2014 at 11:26 am
Patrick, if Lovie thinks that is the case, I am all in on that. I don’t feel we should draft a QB just for the sake of not being happy with what we have. Whoever it is would have to be significantly better to spend the 7th overall or more on.
It is really interesting to me how polarizing Manziel seems to be; they either love him or hate him. Don’t know if you read the Barry Switzer interview or not (very good read). In there, he was asked…
“If you had to start a team with one player, who would it be?”
His response:
“…Well, Peyton is at the twilight of his career … This might surprise you, but I think the most dynamic player…
I’ve seen Michael Jordan and Oscar Robertson. I’ve seen Oscar Robertson play live. I saw him against my college team as a sophomore for Cincinnati. With three minutes left to go in the game, my team had 54 points and Oscar had 56, so he’s outscoring my team. He’s the only player, and then Michael Jordan comes along, but [Robertson’s] the only player that can take control of a game and win a game by himself.
Well, let me tell you, Johnny Manziel is the first football player I’ve ever seen that can control the game like those guys did basketball. It’s unbelievable the numbers that he can put up against the competition game after game after game…”
Crazy, huh? From this to Cosell’s “nearly undraftable” comment. It will be interesting to follow Johnny Football to see how he develops.
February 27th, 2014 at 11:29 am
Last thing Lovie would say is “we want to trade him”.
Even if he does.
I don’t know what the cap situation is, but Denver is the type of team to give up quite a bit to get Revis.
Time is ticking on Manning.
February 27th, 2014 at 11:30 am
if we get rid of him then we have jonathan banks ( promising but meh) and leonard johnson (meeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhh). Drew Brees will destroy us again and again.
February 27th, 2014 at 11:36 am
I agree, it’s all over the place. I’m not sure if that doesn’t tell us something in itself about the quality of the players
February 27th, 2014 at 11:41 am
Brees destroyed us with Revis. So did Newton.
If we had things like a QB and whatnot, and Revis was putting us over the top in a playoff run, by all means keep him.
We’re miles from that. At QB we either are going to wait for Glennon to develop, or a rookie we draft to develop.
Best way to stop Bree’s is put him on his back or get in his face. They got so many weapons on that team taking away their number one receiver just changes the name of the guy who is going to burn you. Still get destroyed.
February 27th, 2014 at 11:57 am
First off Bonzai, don’t call me “buddy” it reeks of condescension. To call me a fringe fan is also an insult. I follow this team damn near religiously so I am well aware my opinion of the value these players hold.
Dashon Goldson is nowhere near worth the headache he provides during the 60 minutes of gameplay. If you could put a price on the penalties he’s gotten at inopportune times his contract would damn near cancel itself out. The superbowl is the biggest stage of them all and players are expected to play with passion, so I agree with the looser penalty calling. The fact doesn’t change that during the season, we are seeing a “kinder, gentler” NFL. You can’t enjoy the looser atmosphere of the superbowl if you don’t GET to the superbowl in the first place partly because you can’t play by the (albeit stupid) rules.
As far as Mike Williams goes, I agree his “off-field issues” were garbage and will disappear. I have thought for some time that Mike is not all we stack him up to be on the sole basis of PERFORMANCE. For every spectacular catch this guy makes, he gets a gut-wrenching case of the dropsies moments later. The draft is deep with individuals who can fill the role of big-bodied boom or bust #2 receiver, as well as speedier #3 to work the middle. Also, I expect a #2 receiver to show promise as someone who can fill in as a #1 in the event our aging V-Jax goes down. He proved in 2011 that he is nowhere near capable of that role. So forgive me if I think we can get the same exact thing in the draft on a rookie contract without a rapidly escalating contract extension that was gifted by a GM who simply handed it out for being a good sport. (my opinion, chill the hell out.)
The problem is in this town that we have such a high standard of defense that we are very willing to accept mediocrity with a side order of spontaneous highlights on the offensive side of the ball. How many of us belly-ached when Blount was traded? He jumps over a couple people and he’s the next Barry Sanders, but we forget about his ability on multiple occasions to punch it in from the 1 yard line. He did the same thing in New England, he flashed and fizzled when it mattered most.
We have a lot of solid players on this team, and I would like to be able to compensate and retain them properly. The contracts MD handed out were not sustainable in the long run.
February 27th, 2014 at 12:02 pm
The only way to slow down a passing attack is by having pass rushers and lots of them. Revis is one man, teams can simply to not throw to his man (though Brees did and torched him several times in the last meeting), but having multiple pass rushers makes all the DBs better.
Trading a 1st and 3rd for Revis and THEN signing that ludicrous franchise QB contract was insane to begin with. I would be shocked if any team is stupid enough to give up ANYTHING for that contract. I can understand giving up a first and third for a player and getting a bargain deal…but Revis got well over free market value (does anybody think any other team would give a great CB coming off ACL surgery that kind of money except Dummy Schiano?) and his worth is the money he is getting. Trading away picks as well is moronic at best.
Look at how smart teams make trades, the Pats gave up a 4th for Randy Moss. They gave up a 4th for Talib, they picked up Wes Welker by paying the compensation (old free agency deal) of a 7th round pick to the Dolphins. YOU DON’T GIVE UP 1st and 3rd ROUND PICKS ON A PLAYER AND THEN TURN AROUND AND GIVE HIM MORE MONEY THAN HE IS WORTH!!! Trading a 2nd for Winslow MIGHT have been a good deal, if we didn’t go and give him over his market value (and coming off knee issues of his own). The Bucs have a lengthy recent history of being stupid, hopefully that will all change because I’m sick of being way smarter than the guys in charge.
February 27th, 2014 at 12:04 pm
Another way to beat Brees is to actually score some points.
February 27th, 2014 at 12:05 pm
People look at the numbers and say 16 million get rid of him……how about new coach new contract, we can restructure it ourselves and keep him, he only get 16 mil if he doesn’t get hurt, no one even revis probably wasn’t too live out a contract with zero guaranteed, what if he tweaks his knee or an ankle and misses a game, he misses 1 million dollar paycheck right, if they want revis they’re gonna fix his contract
February 27th, 2014 at 12:05 pm
Nic-
My problem with Goldson mainly arises from the fact that he is essentially a SS playing FS…he’s good as a SS, not elite, and he’s decent at FS…definitely not worth $500,000 a game. That was perhaps my biggest issue with the former idiots in charge. They decided they would build a defense starting with the secondary. Between Revis and Goldson they made $1.5 mil a game.. and how many games did that win us? Smart teams invest heavily in their pass rush, we’ve been morbidly stupid the past 10 years or so.
February 27th, 2014 at 12:09 pm
The revis talk is media driven… Just trying to get hits. MAYBE some teams have inquired, but I agree Joe; Lovie seems stoked to have Revis and getting rid of him just doesn’t make sense.
February 27th, 2014 at 12:18 pm
Patrick, my feeling is that with Lovie, and more so with Tedford and his expertise looking at whats out there, if we draft a QB, I am going to be ecstatic bc to me that means they see something special. And if we don’t draft a QB, then Tedford and Lovie did not see this class as special and instead we draft a great defender, receiver or OT (I hope not). Then we have to hope your Kool Aid was not making you hallucinate, lol
February 27th, 2014 at 12:34 pm
I agree completely Brandon, I don’t care so much about the penalties per se, but I do care about the money we’re paying him only to get those penalties in return. The money doesn’t equal wins, so its just for “star power” at this point.
February 27th, 2014 at 12:47 pm
The question I ask when it comes to the Revis deal is. If Licht was the GM of the Bucs last season. Do any of you think he would have made the Revis deal? I don’t think so. I could be wrong of course, but how many of you think Licht would have made that deal?
February 27th, 2014 at 12:51 pm
Keep in mind I’m talking about the same Licht that said he’s looking to add “value”players. Is 16 million a value?
February 27th, 2014 at 12:54 pm
I am not allowing any of this to upset me because the fact is that we are keeping Revis and we can afford to for now. I guess some folks do not value having one of the best CB’s who can shut down the opposing teams #1 receivers. Yes I agree that the front 7 is ultimately where games are won and lost, however the Bucs new staff is not stupid enough to trade Revis. The Jets used a #1 pick on D. Milner to replace Revis and the question as to who got the better CB is not even debatable. If you can afford a Ferrari, you don’t trade it for an Acura and a couple Fords. Just an analogy….nothing against Acura or Ford.
February 27th, 2014 at 1:32 pm
lightningbuc:
Thanks for the catch man. Much appreciated!
February 27th, 2014 at 1:38 pm
I don’t think anyone will argue he is not worth the money for a premium corner, I would like to see him stay while restructuring his contract. But if someone offered something to good to turn down you have to take it. What is worth taking for him?
February 27th, 2014 at 3:46 pm
In todays USA today sports section had a mock draft with the Bucs taking Mack from Buffalo at #7. at #8 the Vikings taking Manziel. Surprised Joe does not have 20 articles dedicated to that. Maybe he is too busy cussing out people from the USA today.
February 27th, 2014 at 4:38 pm
revis (working within the scheme of a very capable defensive coach) is one of the main reasons why the jets, who were never very talented, could hang with anybody including the patriots and manning’s colts and be a force when they made it to the postseason. the guy will be a difference maker moving forward and until we can’t afford to pay other players we want\need, he is not making “too much”. eventually the cap will go up and guys like richard sherman and patrick peterson will sign deals that make revis’ money look like a sucker contract. and then he’ll hold out, and that’s the first time we’ll have a meaningful conversation about revis and the bucs possibly parting ways.
February 28th, 2014 at 12:57 am
Did anyone else watch the Super Bowl, forget about offense we have the means of being the greatest Defense ever trim some o-line money, look for a cheap good mobile QB (T. Jackson) see if VJ can lower his contract and go all in on defense draft and free agency. That was a record breaking bronco offense that could only mustar up 8 points. Hell scratch the Mobile QB Glennon will be just fine
March 1st, 2014 at 3:36 pm
We need Revis for a year or two. Groom somebody behind him. Besides, who do we have now? Like to see him play at 100%
Harry, it’s Flavor-aid (Jonestown). Hate that saying.
Snook. STFU.