Glennon Lands On Starters-To-Bench List
February 15th, 2014
The fearless leader of the NFL’s 32nd-ranked offense, Mike Glennon, was lumped into a group of quarterbacks that may be best suited to hold clipboards and get loads of preseason snaps.
Glennon did not get much love from former Jets personnel chief and linebackers coach Pat Kirwan in a recent look at quarterbacks for CBSSports.com.
It’s intriguing reading on a few levels. Don’t think teams are looking for magic at quarterback? Consider one factoid Kirwan rolled out: 16 rookie quarterbacks made rosters last year.
On Glennon, Kirwan doesn’t put him in impressive company.
Who to bench?
A few teams will look at their 2013 starter and conclude he’s really a backup. If the player has a cheap contract and is young enough, moving down in status could be the best option.
Terrelle Pryor, Brandon Weeden, Christian Ponder and maybe Mike Glennon fit in this group.
Of course, what matters most is how offensive coordinator Jeff Tedford and Jason Licht rate Glennon. Joe’s quite confident defensive-minded Lovie Smith will defer to his hand-picked offensive guru.
While in theory Glennon will have a chance to win the starting job, if the Bucs sign Michael Vick or draft a mobile quarterback, then Glennon might find himself in an offense not designed to play to his strengths.
February 15th, 2014 at 11:42 am
I love how you overlook the word “Maybe” in that sentence. Nobody can say with any level of certainty that they know what we have in Mike Glennon. Good or bad.
February 15th, 2014 at 11:45 am
Glennon is better than Johnny Football, Teddy Football, Blake Football, and any other stinking QB in this class.
There is no Andrew Luck.
Stick with the devil, you know.
Use the money, we are saving on Glennon, and bring in some pass rush.
February 15th, 2014 at 11:46 am
Oh the suspense – we will know in less than a month!!!!
February 15th, 2014 at 12:01 pm
@Mort Says:
“…Nobody can say with any level of certainty that they know what we have in Mike Glennon…”
Tedford can. 13 games is plenty of tape for him to look at and know one way or the other if Glennon has potential to be the man. My money is on him being the backup man. And I think he will be a darn good one.
@stevek (MGM) Says:
“…Glennon is better than Johnny Football, Teddy Football, Blake Football, and any other stinking QB in this class…”
Just curious, Steve, do you live in Colorado?
February 15th, 2014 at 12:10 pm
A second year QB on a 4-12 team might get benched?
That’s some in depth analysis.
This more of the same…this guy likes Glennon and this guy doesn’t.
Saying that any QB on any 4-12 team might lose his starting job isn’t exactly going out on a limb.
February 15th, 2014 at 12:10 pm
@stevek (MGM)
wow so i feel much better now…glennon is better than any rookie coming out of the draft this year lol yea right thats probably not a true statement either….the guy can throw short to mid range passes well in my opinion and very well but deep ball is butt, he cant escape a pass rush and even if we had the best oline in the league it wont matter, the guy ran a 4.94 in the 40, most d tackles ran faster than that, forget how quick defensive ends and linebackers are, this guy cant outrun a defensive tackle, functional mobility lol yea ok…nothing against glennon but draft a quarterback every year until you find the guy and the fact that we are debating it so hard means he’s not the guy
February 15th, 2014 at 12:12 pm
Brad Johnson was not a mobile Q.B. He was very smart. Glennon probably has a better arm than Brad. He’s smart like Brad, he doesn’t have Brad’s experience yet.
Glennon can be good enough to take this team to an S.B. IF…IF…the defense is as good as the old Buc defenses that took Brad to a title…and just as importantly IF..the Bucs field one of the best offensive lines in the league.
Peyton destroyed the Patriots because Denver’s line was able to block the Pats defense. Peyton was destroyed by the Seahawks because the Denver line could not block the Seattle defensive front seven.
Glennon played well when he had time, we all know he’s not a Russell Wilson or Colin Kapernik, able to “create” his own time. For Glennon to succeed the O line must perform.
Any prognostications on what our O line will look like? IMHO they can be anywhere from great to awful. Depends on health and a return to form of Nix, Joseph and Penn.
February 15th, 2014 at 12:18 pm
“the fact that we are debating it so hard means he’s not the guy”
Don’t give yourself to much credit there buddy.
You and I or anyone other than the guys at 1BP debating it means absolutely nothing.
Now, The fact that you said draft a QB every until you get the right one does however show that you haven’t got a clue.
February 15th, 2014 at 12:27 pm
When they say “there is no Andrew Luck” in this class, I think people misunderstand this comment. It is simply saying there is no one QB that stands head and shoulders above the others. It doesn’t mean they are sub-standard prospects. Put Bridgewater in last year’s draft class and he would have been the “Andrew Luck” of the draft. This year there are more quality QBs, therefore no single standout. The depth of QB in this draft is much greater than last year. My estimation would be that at least the top 3, maybe more, would all be rated above Geno Smith, EJ Manuel, and Glennon. There are others that would be lumped in a group similar to those 3 last year as well.
Glennon had good moments, though I would challenge fans to objectively find more than a couple great moments. I could point to the 85yd TD to Underwood as great. Maybe even rookie of the month, although most of the month was fairly ordinary and safe, nothing spectacular.
February 15th, 2014 at 12:30 pm
SteveK your freaking nuts. Anyone in the class of quarterbacks can carry their team I their backs and win a game. How many games did you see glennon personally win. The answer NOnE. All glennon does is throw the check down. That’s why his stats looks decent. 98% of his long passes were either batted away or picked. And don’t use the excuse that his receivers weren’t that good. A good qb makes the people around him better. I would take teddy or Johnny everyday of the week and twice on Sunday. And if I’m wrong at least it would give glennon quality competition cus lord knows orvlosky can’t compete to save his life. And I’m hardly ever wrong
February 15th, 2014 at 12:32 pm
I have done some “serious” research on this subject and compared MG8 to other great QBs rookies years, we have the following:
Mike Glennon – rookie QB rating: 83.9
Joe Montana – rookie QB rating: 81.1
Johnny Unitas – rookie QB rating: 74.0
Tom Brady – rookie QB rating: 42.4
In reviewing the above information, it is clear to anyone that we have the potential of a HOF starting QB. MG8 just needs one more year to show what he can do. Last year was not his fault. Are we going to kick him to the curb and see him end up with another team and be their HOF QB?
Have to excuse me now, I have to make another run to Colorado and restock supplies.
February 15th, 2014 at 12:34 pm
Why hasn’t anyone suggested getting cousins.wouldn’t he be good competition for Glennon?
February 15th, 2014 at 12:40 pm
@BamBamBuc Says:
“…When they say “there is no Andrew Luck” in this class, I think people misunderstand this comment…”
And to add to what you said BamBam, when Luck entered the draft it was, I believe, the first time in MANY years that evaluators unanimously labeled a QB as a “sure fire starter”. This year is way more typical where evaluators are mixed on what each prospect can do, labeling them as both “undraftable” to a #1 pick. This is a normal year; there is rarely a sure fire starter.
February 15th, 2014 at 12:40 pm
Mort Says
“I love how you overlook the word “Maybe” in that sentence. Nobody can say with any level of certainty that they know what we have in Mike Glennon. Good or bad.”
I agree with this 100%!
Which is why I don’t feel Mike Glennon should just be handed the starting job. Make him earn it against true competition (and not some token QB).
February 15th, 2014 at 12:40 pm
Give Glennon a legit TE, slot WR, Doug Martin back, and some upgraded O-Line.
Glennon can prove the doubters wrong.
Why is it that so many fans think that by (reaching) drafting an undersized, overhyped QB we become a playoff contender?
No QB could win with Glennon’s line last year, MRSA, Schian, Dominick grooming a depleted roster, etc…
I have seen more in MG8, after 13 starts, then I did with the 61 starts before that with an absolute knuckle head.
Give the kid a chance, draft a QB in the 4th round on, don’t reach on an undersized QB.
Glennon will have those eating crow, and feeling like they are “freaking nuts”, ok Jon.
February 15th, 2014 at 12:42 pm
Totally agree. If Tedford tries to fix Glennon this year it will ruin our season because Glennon will not be able to be taught how to avoid looking like a deer in the headlights when he is under pressure in the fourth quarter. He will not be able to bring the team to victory in the fourth quarter. The line will take time to gel with a new system and in the meantime Sac Magnet Glennon will be a sitting duck for every DE in the league because he is not mobile and cannot extend plays and Tedford can’t fix that; so he better figure that out quick and insist on drafting Bortles or Carr in the first round.
February 15th, 2014 at 12:45 pm
Hey Joe, this may be insanity but what about trading Glennon and mike James and our pick at 7to Jacksonville for their number 1 draft pick this year, they just might go for that.that way we could get johnny, or possibly Bridgewater.Glennon is an upgrade compared to what they got and they need a whole damm team to draft.
February 15th, 2014 at 12:50 pm
The only reason Glennon went in the 3rd round was the Little General was turning purple from holding his breath so long. He was a high school crush of Greg’s.
If the Rockstar had not given in, MG8 would have dropped to the late 5th or 6th round.
February 15th, 2014 at 12:52 pm
I am utterly burnt out on reading about the quarterback position.
Joe get a little creative and find something else to write about for a while. I honestly enjoyed the beer blog more than the incessant ramblings of Glennon, Vick, and Johnny jackoff.
February 15th, 2014 at 12:56 pm
Joe has deleted your comment because Joe really doesn’t get your insertion of prejudice and race here. Joe can only speak for his own argument against Glennon, which is simply summed up as follows:
1) He led the worst-ranked offense in the NFL, a system for which he was supposedly a perfect fit.
2) He didn’t wow anyone more than a couple of times.
3) He was a third-round pick with a limited skill set.
4) Joe highly doubts Jeff Tedford would want to build around Glennon and not bring in serious competition, if not a flat out replacement.
5) Glennon is far behind the other quarterbacks in the NFC South and doesn’t seem to have the potential to be better than any of them.
Why you think any of that opinion would change if Glennon were a black man makes no sense to Joe and has no place here.
February 15th, 2014 at 12:57 pm
The only reason Glennon went in the 3rd round was the Little General was turning purple from holding his breath so long. He was a high school crush of Greg’s.
If the Rockstar had not given in, MG8 would have dropped to the late 5th or 6th round.
You’re clueless
February 15th, 2014 at 1:09 pm
Let’s just trade all our picks in this draft and next year’s as well to trade up in order to pick the flavor of the month…JF, Bortles, et al. QB Is the ONLY thing keeping the Bucs out of the Super Bowl right? No other holes to fill. GREAT offensive and defensive lines, stocked with Pro Bowl WRs,TEs. Come on, who’s with me? Sick of all the Glennon is the worst QB in NFL history crap. Is he Tom Brady? No but neither are any of the GREAT in-coming rookies from this draft. Let’s just trust the brain trust and see what happens in free agency shall we?
February 15th, 2014 at 1:16 pm
Glennon is a back up in the nfl
February 15th, 2014 at 1:16 pm
I have done some research that finds all of you “HATE 8” antagonists are crazy:
Glennon rookie QB rating: 83.9
Montana rookie QB rating: 81.1
Unitas rookie QB rating: 74.0
Brady rookie QB rating: 42.4
Clearly, MG8 is HOF material. What is wrong with all of you “Hate 8” mob? What happened last year was “not his fault”. Given another year and all of you will see what he has to offer! Glennon will show you ALL!!
Now please excuse me. Supplies are running low and I need to make a run to Colorado…
February 15th, 2014 at 1:17 pm
Damn it, this site is so annoying lately. I submitted a great MGM post and Joe is blocking it…
???
February 15th, 2014 at 1:20 pm
It’s funny, when Joe disagrees with Kirwan he refers to him as fried chicken eater beer chuggin sob etc… but when Kirwan makes Joes point you don’t get that. lol
You are confusing Kirwan with Peter King. –Joe
February 15th, 2014 at 1:24 pm
The Glennon debate is getting very repetitive & boring.
Can we all agree that the Bucs should bring in another QB to compete with Glennon…..someone who provides stiff competion from either the Draft of FA?
Now…beyond that….things get murky….I trust Licht, Smith & Tedford to make the right decision….one that won’t please everyone.
February 15th, 2014 at 1:25 pm
Really weird. There were 18 posts on here. Now there are only 9. Is it my computer?
Must be on your end. –Joe
February 15th, 2014 at 1:26 pm
One of these things is not like the other. Glennon was far better than either of those three and was the only rookie among the bunch. Plenty of room for Glennon to grow (or fail) where you’ve got a much better idea of what the other guys are going to do.
February 15th, 2014 at 1:32 pm
I think glennon should get 1 year to prove him self bring in comp like vick who wins it gets the job im not a vick hater ..seen him do to much on a field to question his ability only knock on him is staying healthy hes left handed if nicks makes it back in the line up pick up maybe center mack cut joeseph move zutta we have a strong line specially for a left hand qb vick is by far the best pick up for us he made a comp for giraffe number one t the eagles that guy only beat us the prior year now hes in the pro bowl vick will be cheap 5 mill a year with some bonus and then its a fight not just a red carpet rolled out for glennon to compete with glennon in all honesty josh freeman showed me alot more then glennon has mg is inept at at throwing the ball deep my eyes dont lie vick he is great at chunking yhe ball making defenders respect the deep field taking tacklers out the box im just saying have a open mind i have two pitbull dogs i raised since puppys get over the mistake n lets build a team who is hungry vick will keep us in any game glennon is a game manager at best atlsast what he showed to this point you haft to have a great defense to compete with a qb like that yeah hes cheap but 32 offense yeah no thank you any typos thank you androide phone for i think i made my point on why to have a open mind going forward and believe in this new staff there all hungry for sucess III
February 15th, 2014 at 1:35 pm
We really need to draft a QB in one of the most mediocre draft classes in recent memory, and not only that, we should mortgage the farm to do so. It’s actually reminding me a lot of the 2009 class. You have the “sure thing” (Stafford/Bridgewater) you have the guy who doesn’t have a ton of experience (Sanchez/Bortles), and you have the hard partier (Freeman/Manziel). And in the end, none of them will be worth a high first round pick, just like 2009. And don’t give me that Stafford crap, anyone can put up his numbers with Megatron. Lots of guys can also constantly cost their team with terrible decisions.
Stay away from QBs in this draft until late. If that first isn’t spent on pass rush or offensive line or if God loves us Mr. Watkins falling to us, then its a horrific waste. Andrew Luck isn’t in this draft. Ryan Leaf, Mark Sanchez and Josh Freeman are though…
February 15th, 2014 at 1:40 pm
I was pretty sure this would be the post where we were able to resolve this thing. Maybe I was wrong. Let’s have about 50 more between now and the draft and we may’ be able to reach a consensus. Or, at least, have a few people swayed to one side or the other.
But, that’ll only give way to the I told ya so’s coming from whatever side had their wishes met. And then even that is dependent on the performance, or lack of, from our starter next year. So whatever happens the Bucs faithful are going to be an annoying bunch this year. God help us if this year’s qb under performs and we’re looking again next year
February 15th, 2014 at 1:53 pm
You are confusing Kirwan with Peter King. –Joe
Sorry Joe, my bad 🙁
February 15th, 2014 at 1:54 pm
Does anyone else regard Vic as a mirage?
He has always been fast. He has never been wise, never looked off receivers, never mastered the art of the position. Now he is losing speed while not gaining in wisdom.
I see no value in getting a circus performer-type athlete. We need a quarterback. MG8 is at most 10% the runner Vic is, but he already seems like better at the craft.
Old dog, old tricks.
February 15th, 2014 at 1:59 pm
@Lou – save yourself some stress. They don’t want a qb. They want highlights. Doesn’t matter if you win as long as you make sports center
February 15th, 2014 at 2:01 pm
Glennon Sucks
Glennon is Great
We need to move up to draft Bridgwater, Bortles, Manziel
We should take one of them at 7 if they are there
We need to take Garoppolo or Murray or another QB later
We need to bring in Vick
Vick Sucks
We need to gring in McCown
McCown Sucks
We need to call Bret Favre
We don’t need to call Bret Favre
Glennon should get another chance
Glennon should be a career backup
Freeman Sucks
Freeman Sucked
I’m sure I haven’t covered everything but this covers most opinions. I think I’ll just post this everytime another QB article appears!!!
February 15th, 2014 at 2:06 pm
@tbbf – maybe number them so folks can reference them if they feel like their voice needs to be heard. That way we don’t have to read through a while past looking for that elusive nugget of originality that has thus far eluded us all.
#5!!!!
February 15th, 2014 at 2:08 pm
Tbbf…good idea only fix the spelling errors.
February 15th, 2014 at 2:09 pm
lol Patrick…yeah numbered like a drive thru value menu.
February 15th, 2014 at 2:11 pm
Super size my #5 please
February 15th, 2014 at 2:18 pm
@87
You mean Brett?
February 15th, 2014 at 2:19 pm
The draft can’t get here soon enough!
February 15th, 2014 at 2:28 pm
This is a tough decision….glad we have the “rock star” making this decision for us or the band might crash and burn and make a bad decision…what? The Rockstar is in a professional Rock Star Rehab. mode? Oh well, we will have to see what Licht can accomplish.
February 15th, 2014 at 2:28 pm
@Don’t forget the trading for Cousins, 4th best QB in the division, and higher ceiling opinions. 😉
February 15th, 2014 at 2:29 pm
*@TBBF
February 15th, 2014 at 2:29 pm
I forgot one…..
Shaun King thinks we should sign Freeman
Shaun King thinks Glennon sucks
Shaun King thinks Glennon might be OK
Shaun King thinks Glennon is great
“Shaun King, one of two Buc Quarterbacks that lost a NFC Championship Game when his defense gave up 11 or fewer points.”
February 15th, 2014 at 2:37 pm
Gotta hand it to Joe…he does know how to stick with topics that generate a lot of traffic on this site. Well played sir, well played.
Look, for the last time. Joe writes about what Joe finds interesting in the world of the Bucs. There’s nothing more to it that that. Outside of the Mike Glennon Mob, Joe and the rest of Bucs fans and NFL analysts are dialed into the Bucs’ QB situation. Why? Because it’s unsettled. –Joe
I’ve heard a couple folks on here pining over Kirk Cousins in this thread and a few previous ‘MG8 hate’ threads, and I have to take a quote out of Joe’s book on that guy…I just don’t see it. Unless Licht is into doing NFL deals while intoxicated why would the Bucs want to give up anything to get a guy who was a 4th round draft pick and who’s regular season NFL stats don’t look as good as Glennon’s?
February 15th, 2014 at 2:48 pm
Patrick
What are you taking about? “People only want highlights, they don’t want wins?” Glennon didn’t win, so what’s your point?
The fact is Glennon didn’t make any plays by himself or make others around him better. Plenty of rookie qbs have done that in the past, he didn’t. He needs serious competition, and if he wins that’s great because he plays for my favorite team! But to just give it to him because he “did some good things” won’t work, we tried that with Freeman remember? Bill Walsh brought in Steve Young when he had HOF Joe Montana winning Superbowls just to let him know he wasn’t expendable. It kept him on his game.
And oh, to some other person above, please don’t compare Glennons rookie stats to Manning and Montana. Those stats are over a decade old and I bet at the end of the season their offense wasn’t dead last.
IMO Glennon isn’t that good, I hope I’m wrong though.
February 15th, 2014 at 2:54 pm
@ Walkdaplank
How could I forget the classic “Trading for Cousins” post…\
We can add….Trading for E. Manning, bring back Freeman, bring in Tebow, Sanchez…..and…..I love this one.
Post bail for Aaron Hernandez & let Tedford coach him up at QB
February 15th, 2014 at 3:01 pm
@bee – I’ll pose the same question to you that I’ve put out there before and didn’t get any adequate answers. If you can give me something then I’ll concede that you want these new quarterbacks for something more than highlights.
What is out about any of this draft’s quarterbacks that fits the mold of the incoming offensive system that tedford will be bringing? What about their specific skill sets do you think compliments the system that we have coming so well that they are undeniably great fits for it and we can’t pass one of them up. So far as I can tell everyone looks at cute highlight films and just assumes that they’ll come here and do the same thing but what makes you think that they’ll be able to do those same things in this system?
February 15th, 2014 at 3:15 pm
@Patrick in VA
“They don’t want a qb. They want highlights. Doesn’t matter if you win as long as you make sports center”
By they I assume you mean the fans that don’t think Glennon is a quality starter. I am one of the “they” that you reference. I would love to see Sport Center highlights from our QB. I also want us to win. So maybe you can tell me what Glennon has ever won? He didn’t win much in college and damn sure didn’t win much as a Buc.
February 15th, 2014 at 3:19 pm
@bee and Patrick,
I didn’t see your post until after mine.
February 15th, 2014 at 3:24 pm
@patrick,
Are you in the meetings with Lovie and Tedford? Do you know exactly what he is going to run? Chip Kelly didn’t run the exact same offense he did at Oregon. Great coaches adapt their system to their great players correct? So why are you so sure Tedford will force a player to only run a certain offense?
February 15th, 2014 at 3:35 pm
@TBBF
That is funny, I bet some already think Hernandez will come cheap because we can get him on Work Release,
All I know is if Glennon is a back-up, who needs starters!
February 15th, 2014 at 3:45 pm
Patrick
As far as being a perfect fit for the system I have no idea but going off of what Tedford spoke about in his press conference he wants an athlete and someone to push the ball down the field. Glennon isn’t an athlete and doesn’t push the ball down the field. Do any of these first round draft QBs fit our system, who knows. But I do know this, Bridgewater and Manzeil are winners. They have the ability to make others around them better and when the play breaks down they can make a play by themselves… again something Glennon can’t do. I’m mentioning those two because I hope we end up with at least one of them. They aren’t scared of the rush that’s coming and don’t fold up into the fetal position and eat sacks on critical downs. Or throw the ball away on 4 down when you need a score. Its not about highlights, its about who gives your team the best chance to win. Glennon doesn’t. Hence us being last in offense and no TDs during the 2nd halves of games.
People please stop comparing him to Brad Johnson. Not only did he QB over a decade ago, he wasn’t afraid of the rush and was an above average QB. He had several 4 td games that Superbowl season as well. Do you see Glennon doing that?
Give whatever excuse you want, but with all his “talent” we were dead last in the league. He hasn’t earned a starting job. Period. I wish he was better, he isn’t. Please post his mediocre passing stats and compare them to whoever but the fact is the failed at the most important stat… WINS. If he helped us win more, despite circumstances we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
With turnaround happening so fast in the NFL do honestly think this GM and coaching staff are gonna sit back and hand the team to Mike Glennon? Really? Based off what? Potential? Excuses? Hopes? Dreams? Get real. Mike is ok, at best. And once he faces some real competition from a QB that can do more than throw a 5 yd pass he’ll be holding a clipboard.
February 15th, 2014 at 3:47 pm
I will guarantee will 100% certainty that there are QB’s better than Glennon coming out this year.
February 15th, 2014 at 4:03 pm
Schiano seemed to think he was the future answer to our QB position and he saw every snap he took in practice and games. I don’t think Schiano was a great coach but I thought he was very good at evaluating and spotting talent. So maybe he was right about Glennon and only time will tell.
February 15th, 2014 at 4:11 pm
The bucs don’t need another quarterback if the use the draft and free agency to get offensive linemen. Yes, they need more depth on the defensive line, but if you have an elite offensive line you can have an average quarterback that can hand the ball off to your runningback, occasionally through to get a first down, and manage the clock.. Best case scenerio is they trade down in the first round to get extra picks that they lost in the Revis deal. This is a draft with maybe 5 quarterbacks to go in the first 8 picks, a defensive linemen, a great wide reciever, and an offensive linemen that will probably round out the top 8. We could use any of those players, but by trading down we can still get a quality first round pick and a few extra picks to get more help.
February 15th, 2014 at 4:15 pm
@ Joseph Mamma
Yea….that’s one of the problems Glennon has. He was handpicked by Schiano…..he has been painted with the Schiano brush and many are very skeptical of his talent.
It will take a consensus from his new coaches & GM to make him the starter. I am not in the MGM but as a Buc fan, I hope he succeeds because he is young and cheap and we have lots of other needs.
Many don’t think he will and that’s understandable….what isn’t is fans actually rooting against him…..somehow, that doesn’t seem right.
February 15th, 2014 at 4:16 pm
Never miss an opportunity to share any negative statement about our QB! You have the same fixation on getting rid of Glennon that you had about Rachael Watson until you found that “Jonny” gets you even Wetter! Pathetic!
Wrong. Joe wants Glennon here. He’s at least, a great backup. Stop making stuff up. –Joe
February 15th, 2014 at 4:28 pm
Patrick
As far as being a perfect fit for the system I have no idea but going off of what Tedford spoke about in his press conference he wants an athlete and someone to push the ball down the field. Glennon isn’t an athlete and doesn’t push the ball down the field. Do any of these first round draft QBs fit our system, who knows. But I do know this, Bridgewater and Manzeil are winners. They have the ability to make others around them better and when the play breaks down they can make a play by themselves… again something Glennon can’t do. I’m mentioning those two because I hope we end up with at least one of them. They aren’t scared of the rush that’s coming and don’t fold up into the fetal position and eat sacks on critical downs. Or throw the ball away on 4 down when you need a score. Its not about highlights, its about who gives your team the best chance to win. Glennon doesn’t. Hence us being last in offense and no TDs during the 2nd halves of games.
People please stop comparing him to Brad Johnson. Not only did he QB over a decade ago, he wasn’t afraid of the rush and was an above average QB. He had several 4 td games that Superbowl season as well. Do you see Glennon doing that?
Give whatever excuse you want, but with all his “talent” we were dead last in the league. He hasn’t earned a starting job. Period. I wish he was better, he isn’t. Please post his mediocre passing stats and compare them to whoever but the fact is the failed at the most important stat… WINS. If he helped us win more, despite circumstances we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
With turnaround happening so fast in the NFL do honestly think this GM and coaching staff are gonna sit back and hand the team to Mike Glennon? Really? Based off what? Potential? Excuses? Get real. Mike is ok, at best. And once he faces some real competition from a QB that can do more than throw a 5 yd pass he’ll be holding a clipboard.
February 15th, 2014 at 4:52 pm
OK, I’ll take a great backup.
February 15th, 2014 at 5:12 pm
Actually I’m starting to warm up to the idea of drafting Manziel if he’s available at 7. Since the new GM and HC would have a 1st round pick invested in him he’d almost assuredly be anointed the starter even if the camp competition is really close (as I expect it would be). If he does well in year one awesome, we’ve got two good QB’s. If he throws picks and struggles he still will probably be the starter (the whole first round investment thing), but let’s say he gets benched (unfortunately it would only be if a game was terribly out of reach or injury) and Glennon steps in and lights it up…enough to where we end up with an embarrassing Foles beats Vick situation. That could be rather amusing (well not so much for Licht and Lovie or the I Hate MG8 mob)
February 15th, 2014 at 5:47 pm
Not only will Manziel not throw for scouts at Texas A&M’s pro day on March 5, he now had his agent confirm that he will not throw at the NFL combine. This is pathetic. He’s afraid of scouts comparing his noodle arms to the much stronger passers at the combine and his personified stock will drop like the Nasdaq crash of 2000. This guy has bust written all over him. Think I would rather have a GREAT backup QB in his second year at this point rather than give up the farm on that turkey.
February 15th, 2014 at 6:00 pm
@Joe
NY Buc said: Gotta hand it to Joe…he does know how to C. Well played sir, well played.
Joes response: Look, for the last time. Joe writes about what Joe finds interesting in the world of the Bucs. There’s nothing more to it that that. Outside of the Mike Glennon Mob, Joe and the rest of Bucs fans and NFL analysts are dialed into the Bucs’ QB situation. Why? Because it’s unsettled. –Joe
I think you are being a little sensitive in this case, at least it came across the way (“…for the last time…” – which I really doubt it will be, ha). First, and most significant, doesn’t “…stick with topics that generate a lot of traffic on this site…” translate to topics that are of the most interest to “Bucs fans and NFL analysts”? Second, I don’t believe he was busting your balls (as the annoyed MGMers do); I believe it was meant as a compliment.
I’ve noticed one of you Joes is a little temperamental… lol
February 15th, 2014 at 6:04 pm
So give Peyton m no time to throw and what happens? Give mike glennon no time and no weapons and what happens?
February 15th, 2014 at 6:23 pm
Neither did Cam Newton.
February 15th, 2014 at 6:33 pm
Just go ahead and rename this site as http://www.anotherglennonstory.com
February 15th, 2014 at 6:57 pm
StPeteBucsFan-Brad Johnson is Mike Glennon’s ceiling… and yes, MAYBE his arm is stronger, maybe… because Glennon doesn’t have much of an arm… now if only we can resurrect the greatness of the 2002 Buc defense then maybe Glennon will suffice… but if that isn’t happening, we need more than Brad Johnson…just like Minnesota did… Washington did… and when the Buc D hit harder times, we did.
February 15th, 2014 at 6:58 pm
Hawaiian Buc Says:
February 15th, 2014 at 3:47 pm
I will guarantee will 100% certainty that there are QB’s better than Glennon coming out this year.
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Somewhere in the neighborhood of 5.
February 15th, 2014 at 7:08 pm
Joe,
Cam Newton not only threw at the combine but threw very poorly.
For everyone who says they want competition for Glennon. Then say Bucs must pick a QB with 7th pick or trade up and get one of the top 3 are kidding themselves. You want Glennon replaced, just admit it, not a big deal. Competition doesn’t come in the form of Top 10 draft picks.
February 15th, 2014 at 7:09 pm
The obsession continues.
February 15th, 2014 at 7:25 pm
@ Harry
I guess maybe it came off as snarkier than I intended, but no offense taken on the admin comments back. Hey I personally think Glennon is gonna be a good starting NFL QB…dude seems to go through reads quick and process information quick (at least for a rookie last year), some others here think he’s a career backup because he couldn’t (in his rookie year) make the supporting cast of injured starters, practice squad promotions, late round draft picks, and waiver wire acquisitions that were around him for much of the season look as good as VJax & Martin. We can disagree but still be fans of the team…it’s all good like that.
February 15th, 2014 at 7:55 pm
Glennon is the answer. Schiano is/was right….
February 15th, 2014 at 8:19 pm
I think Glennon deserves a shot but if they draft a mobile QB then it’s obvious there will be no competition in camp in the coaches eyes.
February 15th, 2014 at 9:06 pm
Sure Glennon looked not so great at times, I’m not going to make excuses for him, but you don’t replace a QB who showed promise after one season
Sammy Watkins for #7
February 15th, 2014 at 9:44 pm
Pros for Glennon: He’s tall, a strong arm, and seems to be a hard worker with a strong desire to be good.
Whether or not we should get another QB is not a question. Not to say that he will never be, but Glennon is not ready to be the franchise guy – yet – which is ok, bc we have nothing more than a 3rd rd pick invested in him. The true question is how much stock do we invest in another QB.
My vote: a 1st or 2nd rd pick.
Bring in Maclin to play the slot. No team makes the super bowl bc of their stand out slot player.
Draft either a DE or MLB early to get pressure on the opposing QB.
But most importantly, bring competition into camp for QB. Let each of them bring out the best in each other so that in the worst case: we have a good backup. But playing the odds, the most important position on the field will be addressed.
If we learned anything in the 5+year Freeman project it’s to not continue to wait around, investing in a product we’re waiting to prove themselves.