Father Dungy, Michael Vick And The Bucs
February 6th, 2014
Is Father Dungy playing a role behind the scenes to get Michael Vick to Tampa Bay?
The Mike Glennon Mob doesn’t want to hear it. They don’t want to be bothered by simple facts. It’s pretty clear the Bucs are not joking around with the prospect of bringing in free agent quarterback Michael Vick to Tampa Bay.
The Bucs thus far have, smartly, been guarded in their comments about Glennon, quick to praise him but reluctant to knight him as the Bucs starting quarterback this fall. Then comes the news this weekend that the Bucs are hot on the trail of the former Dixie Chicks and Eagles southpaw quarterback. This is all too plain to Joe that the Bucs are not wholly convinced Glennon is their guy. If they thought so, then there’s no need to go out and get a seasoned starter like Vick, right?
Uninhibited Alan Dell of the Bradenton Herald believes this is a smart play. Dell is of the mind not only should the Bucs bring in Vick to create competition for the starting quarterback gig, but the Bucs should also make a play for Johnny Football to really liven things up.
There has been some fear spread that obtaining Vick would be a sign of giving up on Glennon and damage his confidence. But if Glennon is too soft to fight for his job, he really doesn’t deserve it. A guy like Vick offers a lot in the way of experience and athleticism, and if he can stay healthy — which has been a problem — he would be an invaluable commodity.
Glennon had a free ride last year. He was heralded as Greg Schiano’s golden boy before he ever threw a pass.
If Vick comes to Tampa he will be able to confer daily with Tony Dungy, who took the quarterback under his wing after he got out of prison.
The Father Dungy angle is fresh but raises a couple of questions: First, Joe was unaware that the greater Philadelphia metropolitan area (or any other NFL city) was void of cell phone service. Vick couldn’t dial up Father Dungy for counsel after Eagles home games?
Second, when did NFL warden commissioner Roger Goodell ordain Father Dungy as the NFL’s chaplain? Also, the way some talk, Vick would come to town because Father Dungy would be nearby to lay a kind hand on his shoulder and all would be well. If Father Dungy really did have these supernatural powers, how come he couldn’t mount a successful exorcism of Trent Dilfer?
Still, the Father Dungy angle is interesting. We all know that Father Dungy and Bucs coach Lovie Smith are tight. You just have to wonder if Father Dungy, who knows Vick as well as anyone given their personal ties, is greasing the wheels with Lovie to get Vick to Tampa Bay?
February 6th, 2014 at 7:26 am
I’m warming to the idea of Glennon carrying a clipboard for a year. Ideally, he would be standing beside Garropolo on the sideline as they watched a veteran take over this season but I think it would do Glennon some good to have some time to settle in to the system and learn it well before taking the field. Clearly he’s not super mobile so his mastery of the scheme has to be refined enough to be able to compensate. I’m not saying Vick would be the savior of the franchise but I wouldn’t be opposed to letting him take the reigns for the first 6-8 games and then, when he gets hurt, bringing one of the kids in and letting them play. Depends on Vick’s asking price though.
February 6th, 2014 at 7:46 am
Am with the glennon mob but i like this idea.
February 6th, 2014 at 8:03 am
Never was a great QB, and he isn’t the same Michael Vick he was back then to get away with it.
If you guys want another disappointing season on offense, that’s what you will get with Vick.
Either the draft, or Glennon. With the MRSA outbreak fiasco, and high school drama in Tampa last season, the last thing the Bucs need is another media circus.
Please, get real. You do not want Michael Vick in Tampa Bay.
February 6th, 2014 at 8:04 am
Sign him up! I like MG, but I could root for Mike Vick. guy can really play and as someone said before…if he can pull a Cam Newton and play in they system they could be dangerous. And I don’t see him as the thug many do. He did his time.
February 6th, 2014 at 8:05 am
I’m OK with Vick coming to town but Johnny Football is a must have for the Bucs.
February 6th, 2014 at 8:07 am
@David – I don’t think anyone is under the impression that Vick isn’t on the downside of his career. He’d be a place holder until Glennon or a guy that we draft is ready to go. We wouldn’t ask Vick to go out and light the field on fire. Just take what the defense gives him and let Lovie’s defense and special teams do what they will do.
February 6th, 2014 at 8:17 am
Bring him in for a look. Vick has lost a step, or 7. But still has an arm, and plenty of experience. He would be a good back up QB if he didn’t win outright, I don’t think he gets a guaranteed start from anyone.
The thought of Fowlclown fans icing up on the news is also worth it. Imagine Vick beating Matty, or sweeping a few seasons.
He paid his debt to society, so that is history, even as ugly as it was.
He saved the Eagles last year in the race war arena IMO.
February 6th, 2014 at 8:23 am
I don’t know why anyone would be excited to have Vick in a Bucs uniform throwing interceptions. Besides, I thought the plan was not to have the worst Qb in the NFC South. If the is the rallying cry and the standard, then Vick does not measure up.
February 6th, 2014 at 8:25 am
@TAC – Vick having lost 7 steps is still more mobile than Glennon and that’s what the mantra of those that want Glennon out is. Evidently seeing their QB scurrying around is the mark of a champion so that’s what we need. If it buys us some time for one of the viable long term options to get the offense down then I’m fine with that. Might make for some fun highlights to watch. And who knows, maybe Tedford can coach some of those turnovers out of him.
February 6th, 2014 at 8:29 am
I don’t think Vicks talents really worry any defenses. Forget about competition we need someone who will rip defenses apart. MG could do that with some time and good coaching, but seriously who’s worried about Vick, defenses now a days are extremely fast and only a few QBs get away with being mobile.
February 6th, 2014 at 8:45 am
In what may be a bad omen, my dad found a personalized Bucs Michael Vick jersey in a Tampa Goodwill.
I can understand Vick being a placeholder, but doesn’t he still attract negative media attention? Didn’t he just get picketed out of making a speech a few days ago? It just doesn’t seem worth it to me, with all of this hope for a clean and fresh start with Lovie’s arrival.
February 6th, 2014 at 8:53 am
Vick lost his job to Nick Foles….nuff said.
February 6th, 2014 at 8:55 am
@flmike – True. Especially since Foles went on to suck out loud the rest of the season. Wonder who they’re going to bring in to Philly this year to fix that awful QB situation they have up there
February 6th, 2014 at 8:56 am
I think I might like this.
February 6th, 2014 at 8:59 am
Sign and start Vick!
I’ll take the under on 5 games before he’s on IR. The mob rejoices thereafter.
February 6th, 2014 at 9:07 am
Noooooooo to Mike Vick!!!!!
February 6th, 2014 at 9:28 am
Vomit.
Was never great QB. Now a shell of even that. Don’t even get me started on off the field. Scum.
February 6th, 2014 at 9:36 am
I have absolutely no problem with us bringing in a FA or drafting a QB to provide backup & competition for Glennon. I have all the confidence that if Glennon doesn’t win the starting job he will take it like a pro and wait his turn.
He got the job by default and needs to show that he is more than just a Schiano favorite.
As for Vick or Johnny Football…I’ll leave that up to Smith, Tedford & Licht…..but personally…Vick in pewter doesn’t feel right.
February 6th, 2014 at 9:37 am
I wonder if the immortal 55 would approve this move. I bet he would.
If he publicly signed off on it, the holier than thou haters would have to shut their pie holes.
Sign Vick. Its the best shot we have. Our Beeker Glennon QB sucks.
February 6th, 2014 at 9:38 am
Sounds like the Philadelphia Story starring Nick Foles. That didn’t turn out too bad so if that happens here, let’s hope for a similar outcome.
There will be a lot of stories written between now and FA. Look for the Matt Cassel story before long because of Licht’s relationship at the Patriots.
I’m just going to enjoy the drama. Anything can happen and maybe nothing will!
February 6th, 2014 at 9:38 am
I don’t see how any true Bucs fan would accept Vick being on the Bucs.
It doesn’t matter. Adam Scheafer (sp) makes an opinionated statement and guys like Alan Dell start running with it like it is fact. Alan Dell is so bad he should not even have his job. At least the other local hacks have skills.
February 6th, 2014 at 9:38 am
Don’t know why u bring in a guy who hasn’t play a full season an isn’t that good of a QB in the first place. If that is the case just draft one and go from there’s no need for him, if you a veteran bring Cassel or Hene to help glennon out
February 6th, 2014 at 9:42 am
You guys can slam Vick all you want, but the fact is he is arguably the best of what will be available in FA. And that is the disappointing part, because most of your criticisms are valid. It means the Bucs likely are choosing to stay the course of mediocrity instead of being bold and moving up to finally get a real franchise QB. What would be our first.
Continuing in their long line of uninspiring, indistinguishable, game day frustrating QB play: Freeman, Garcia, Gradkowski, Simms, Griese, B. Johnson, Shaun King, Dilfer…
February 6th, 2014 at 9:43 am
Vick did his time. Time for some people let go of their “jail time”(anger).
I think he is a good fit until our drafted QB is ready.
Glennon can hold the clipboard and work on his technique with the coaches.
February 6th, 2014 at 9:44 am
Dungy is over-using his name to get things done in the NFL. I appreciate him trying to help ‘his’ people, but his word is not gospel and it’s been treated as such.
I’m sorry, Vick is not and never was a good QB. He was\is athletic that happens to play the position. Now he’s old and fragile. He offers nothing.
February 6th, 2014 at 9:52 am
So, just to recap, none of the FAs are any good, the QBs coming out of college this year aren’t even the best QBs in college right now and wouldn’t even be first rounders if the best QBs in college were coming out this year but because they were given first round grades in a weak QB class they’re “franchise” QBs now. These guys are worth trading away our draft for and benching the guy who may very well have the tools to be a good QB until we’re able to draft and develop a franchise QB the right way by having him learn the system and putting him out there when he’s ready. If the defense wins us 8 games and ST wins us 2 then we just need the offense to come correct for 2-4 games (Glennon won 4 games this year) and we’re a top ranked team.
February 6th, 2014 at 9:59 am
Uuuuuum does anyone remember that Vick smoked shady mc.coy in a foot race last year in philly??? Not really a fan of him in tampa but the guy still has wheels…
February 6th, 2014 at 10:09 am
Since those of us wishing Glennon a second year are labeled part of a “mob”, let’s call those wishing Vick comes here the “Vick Kennel Club”!
February 6th, 2014 at 10:10 am
Wasn’t Vick supplanted by Mike Glennon’s twin? Vick hasn’t been a winning QB since he was on the better side of 30.
February 6th, 2014 at 10:41 am
I’d take Mike Vick right now over Glennon, but again if no one blocks for him it’s pretty much pointless.
The Bucs have the worst offensive line in the league. This O line needs to be completely redone. Yes and that includes Penn. He can’t run block to save his life.
February 6th, 2014 at 10:43 am
I find it highly unusual that Dungy would endorse a African American over a white player/candidate. Dungys mission is to elevate African Americans. Some might call that racism. I just see Dungy different from most blind folks.
February 6th, 2014 at 10:46 am
Think it all comes down to what Lovie & Tedford want in their QB. At first look doesn’t appear as though a running QB fits their system. Maybe Lovie & Tedford would prefer a QB like J. McCown or M. Cassel if their going with a veteran.
February 6th, 2014 at 10:47 am
Yes, finally someone gets it. Bring in Vick and draft a QB for maximum competition. If Glennon is as good as some of you think he’ll beat an old Vick and a rookie qb. But I doubt it. If all goes well Glennon will be holding a clipboard for another team, well have some extra Draft picks and new rookie qb with a higher ceiling and mobility and Vick starting or 2nd on the depth chart.
February 6th, 2014 at 10:49 am
Joe lest they forget but Tampa is a lot warmer than Philly and when you are prone to get hurt, I am sure the cold hard ground must play into it, plus there is no state or city tax here, yes Philly has a city income tax in addition to the state income tax, that is why the MetLife stadium is in NJ instead of NYC and the Eagles want to move the stadium outside the city limits.
If he would do it what are your thoughts on Tebow being a TE or a FB?
February 6th, 2014 at 10:52 am
Besides the rumor about Vick to the Bucs from one report last week, is there any actual reason to think this is really in the team’s plans? I mean, people are now treating this information as a real thing. Not saying it couldn’t happen, but this seems to be another example of speculation run wild.
February 6th, 2014 at 10:53 am
I love buccaneer football even though they have wasted our time with bad football for a long time. I also happen to be animal lover and I am telling you that I will not spend my time watching Michael Vick quarterback my team. This is not a way to fill the stadium!
February 6th, 2014 at 10:56 am
I’d stop following this team if they sign Vick. He’s a piece of garbage that did time in prison for torturing dogs. I could never root for a team that he’s on, regardless if he’s the best FA quarterback or not. I’d get a sick feeling if I ever saw him in a Bucs uni. Draft a qb if youre that desperate.
February 6th, 2014 at 11:10 am
I agree, If the Bucs signed and started Bucs, Then I will not watch the Bucs lose on Sundays!
February 6th, 2014 at 11:11 am
Vickis greater than Cassal.
February 6th, 2014 at 11:12 am
Our defense is TOO OLD to deal with the gorwing pains of Glennon!
Vick has 3 more GREAT years left in him.
And guess what?
Thats all we have left for Revis, Goldson, V-Jax, Penn, and even McCoy
We have a really good 3 year window in front of us.
So, we need an EXPERIENCED QB to guide us during the next three years.
I like Glennon, but he could use a couple more years of watching, working, and studying.
February 6th, 2014 at 11:13 am
One good hit and Vick is done for the season..It’s a waste….He’s too fragile..
February 6th, 2014 at 11:15 am
To echo others, I also would not watch a single game if Vick were on the roster.
Just because you served your time for drowning and electrocuting animals doesn’t mean you are no longer a sociopath. Eff that guy. In fact, I might even join the protesters. That’s truly how strongly I feel about that scumbag.
I’d trade a low pick for Schaub as a stopgap.
February 6th, 2014 at 11:23 am
Looks like Bridgewater is the guy that’s falling, with JF and Bortles on the rise.
In relooking at his skills he is really polished with his throwing motion and can really drop the ball in the bucket. Might only require a slight move up to get him, or even at 7. Of course these early tea leaves could be smoke screen and not reflective of a dang thing.
But Bridgewater has got some real abilities. Throws the nicest ball of the group and killer stats. Moves in the pocket really well.
No to Vick IMO, he looked sad in the home Eagles loss to the giants. Nowhere near the old Vick. Not much left in the tank.
February 6th, 2014 at 11:30 am
As a lifelong Bucs fan I am not real big on Dungy anything. Looks like the hall of fame voters felt the same.
February 6th, 2014 at 11:30 am
It’s sad to see so many people unwilling to forgive. Good thing none of you have ever made any mistakes. End sarcasm. Anyway I hope we get Bridgewater.
February 6th, 2014 at 11:35 am
Bring in Bobby Douglas!
February 6th, 2014 at 12:16 pm
Anyone who disagrees with vick coming to tampa gotta be people afraid of glennon losing his job, if vick isnt as good as most people are saying then glennon should have no trouble competing, i’d take anyone to compete to make sure we have the best qb starting, vince young, matt cassell…i just want anyone to make it a TRUE qb competition not like what greg schiano did last summer. Michael Vick is not dan orvlosky
I still want to take a qb first with the first pick and if there’s no slam dunk sure thing with this crop of quarterbacks as they say then sitting for a year and learning the offense would only make whoever we pick look better next summer
February 6th, 2014 at 12:20 pm
No Vick, please. That’s coming from someone with zero faith in Glennon too. We need a better QB, but keep that dog killer the hell away from my team.
February 6th, 2014 at 12:33 pm
Lady’s and gentlemen, hide your dogs.
February 6th, 2014 at 1:34 pm
I am going to need some Tums after all this Vick/Manziel non-sense.
February 6th, 2014 at 1:41 pm
People, get past his off-field history. It’s just that, history.
Bucs need someone that can work in our system of solid defense and a game-managing/sometimes scoring offense. We can’t expect that getting someone like Johnny Football means explosive offense in year 1. So go get a veteran that can manage the game while we develop.
We aren’t going to the Super Bowl this year. We are building on a solid base. Be prudent. Be practical. Be adults.
February 6th, 2014 at 1:47 pm
@bee Says:
“…It’s sad to see so many people unwilling to forgive. Good thing none of you have ever made any mistakes…”
You make a correct point and I agree with it. I for one am forgiving bc of the reason you said – I make plenty of mistakes. But just to make a point for those who do not feel forgiving, what Vick did was a heinous crime. One has to be INCREDIBLY cold blooded to do that to an animal. I had to shot a dog once bc it got hit by a car and broke its back. Its something I have never gotten out of my head. So to electrocute or drown a dog with your bare hands is pure evil IMO. So I fully get the hate.
February 6th, 2014 at 2:02 pm
“…It’s sad to see so many people unwilling to forgive. Good thing none of you have ever made any mistakes…”
Yeah, electrocuting and drowning dogs is just a “mistake”.
Screw Vick and screw anyone who views that as a “mistake”. He’s not sorry. He’s sorry he got caught.
That’s not the type of thing you just turn the page from. He’s a sociopath and there’s no amount of penance that changes how twisted his psyche is.
EFF HIM.
Also, you people know that Vick’s baggage includes his waste of oxygen brother right?
February 6th, 2014 at 2:04 pm
If they sign Vick, it will prove that Lovie learned absolutely nothing in from his Chicago experience.
And that will be the end of my optimism about the new regime. It means Lovie is still trying to use bad, over the hill QBs.
No way I’m going to be excited about Vick. The guy has never accomplished anything in the pros. And now he’s brittle and used up.
IF they sign him, guess we’ll be eating for the next regime- hoping they have a few winning ideas.
But I’m hoping they don’t sign Vick. It would be another horrendous idea- by a franchise that has made a great many horrendous ideas lately.
February 6th, 2014 at 2:05 pm
“Waiting” for the next regime.
February 6th, 2014 at 2:13 pm
“If Vick comes to Tampa he will be able to confer daily with Tony Dungy, who took the quarterback under his wing after he got out of prison.”
When did Father Dungy go to prison? Was it that All Pro Dad fiasco?
Seriously though, I would not have a problem with “Dog Killa,” but my extended family would. After all, the “QB Killa” is on the Ring of Honor.
February 6th, 2014 at 2:38 pm
No! Either of the other free agent choices, Cassel or McCown, makes more sense.
February 6th, 2014 at 3:01 pm
I agree with Capt. Tim for once. Why would you want to sign an old injury prone bad QB for anything other than a back up roll?
If Vick starts for us next year… were screweed.
February 6th, 2014 at 3:01 pm
Joe, do you think MV’s major character issues are not a concern for the Glazer and or Lovie? I am not sold on this guy as a person anyone that could kill a dog over money is a monster. I will be end my tenure as a Bucs fan (which is 24 years) if they sign one of top 5 worest human being in the league.
February 6th, 2014 at 3:07 pm
Unless they think he is a changed man. How many dogs has he choked since he got out of the hole?
February 6th, 2014 at 3:08 pm
Another year of musical quarterbacks. Cant wait.
February 6th, 2014 at 3:12 pm
Unless they think he is a changed man. How many dogs has he choked since he got out of the hole?
He moved on to trying to tap out the Greater Phillie Fan Base last year.
February 6th, 2014 at 3:18 pm
@Oil Derrick Brooks Says:
“Also, you people know that Vick’s baggage includes his waste of oxygen brother right?”
LOL ODB, really, don’t hold back, tell us how you really feel. ha
can’t say I blame, as I said above, what he did was absolutely evil.
February 6th, 2014 at 3:25 pm
Vick must be viewed as nothing but an improvement over our current backup situation. I am NOT a member of the MGM, and even I see he is not much better than MG, if at all. If you look objectively at it, Vick = Henne = Cassel = McCown, etc. He is not at all an upgrade over what we have.
We do NOT have enough picks to waste one on a 2nd, 3rd (if we had one) or 4th rd QB; picking a QB outside of one of the top 7 picks is a complete gamble. If we want an upgrade, we have to move up to #2.
If you MGMs want to “give him another chance, its not his fault”, then prepare for more mediocrity, the same as the Bucs have always had at QB.
February 6th, 2014 at 3:28 pm
ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!
Joe is confident having a dirtbag for a brother will keep someone off an NFL roster no matter the talent of said player.
LOL smh
February 6th, 2014 at 4:58 pm
How nice, Dungy would act as a father figure on a daily basis to a grown man. pathetic.
February 6th, 2014 at 5:25 pm
“Joe is confident having a dirtbag for a brother will keep someone off an NFL roster no matter the talent of said player.”
Oil Derrick Brooks is questioning Joe’s reading comprehension level.
Him being a shell of never that great of a QB in the first place and the whole sociopath thing (moreso the PR hit) that will hopefully keep him away from Tampa.
The dirt bag brother just adds to the pathetic nature of the gambit.
February 6th, 2014 at 5:33 pm
I don’t care how much anyone says Michael Vick may have changed as a person. It doesn’t change what he did, and somewhere down underneath all of the posturing and do-goody things he tries to do lies a scumbag who abused and killed dogs for fun and money. If the Bucs sign him, I can guarantee there will be a mass exodus of fans. If you want this guy to represent your team then you might want to get your head examined. Theres some things that go way beyond football.
February 6th, 2014 at 5:37 pm
Why not bring in Vick is the real question.
February 6th, 2014 at 6:20 pm
The exact opposite of what we need.
He’s a runner who can sometimes pass.
We need passer who can run.
SAY NO TO VICK!!!
February 6th, 2014 at 6:49 pm
@ Oil Derrick Brooks
I’m with you on Ron Mexico…errr…I mean Mike Vick. People who don’t get why those of us complaining about Vick in a Bucs uniform probably aren’t animal folks…nothing wrong with that, but to put it in perspective to the non-animal lovers out there who say we should forgive Vick for his past deeds I ask this…would you forgive someone who dropped human babies on their heads? How about someone who sexually molested young children? Horrible crimes, unforgiveable even no? That’s just about akin to how bad animal lovers view Vick’s actions against dogs. Whether you agree or not hopefully you can at least better understand why some of us are willing to abandon the Bucs if they sign this douchebag. On top of that his skills on the field aren’t anything to get too excited about anymore…a rollercoaster of good plays sandwiched between total crap…kind of like that JF5 guy we no longer have to deal with.
February 6th, 2014 at 8:40 pm
Vick and his thugs stole and tortured dogs. Enough said!
February 6th, 2014 at 9:14 pm
“Vick and his thugs stole and tortured dogs. Enough said!”
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And he served his time, and has been a model citizen ever since. Apparently you don’t believe in second chances.
I am an animal lover, but they aren’t humans. No matter how much you want them to be or believe they should be treated as such, they aren’t. A dog’s life isn’t the same as a human life. That’s a cold hard fact that most people don’t want to say or believe to be true, but it just is. When a dog dies, you don’t have funerals with often times hundreds or thousands of people mourning. No one in their right mind loves their dogs more than they love their children. So there is no comparing the two, so just stop already. It’s a foolish argument. Not excusing anything he did, but he paid the price. I’m not asking you to buy his jersey (I certainly won’t), but to boycott the team is just plain ridiculous. It’s not going to force the team to do anything, as winning will bring in more fans anyway (and it’s not like attendance is where the owners make the majority of their money anyway). So all you are basically doing is losing your team for some sort of moral stand. But guess what, there’s no point in taking a stand if it’s not going to do anything, and I can assure you they could give 2 sh!ts less if some fans boycott the team.
February 6th, 2014 at 9:20 pm
Someone who can kill anything whether it be human or animal, in a ruthless evil way is a sick person. [Calm down. You cannot equate killing an animal to a human. Joe doesn’t feel like getting sued. – Joe]
February 6th, 2014 at 9:40 pm
@Couch Fan,
Do you truly believe Vick is going to kill a human? Come on dude, you’re a smart guy, you know better than that. I doubt Aaron Hernandez has ever killed a dog, but he (allegedly) kills people for fun. It’s convenient to link the murder of an animal to a person (and it often can be done), but it’s not full proof. And what if someone kills a deer? What if I really like deer, that could be considered ruthless to me, no? My daughter would certainly agree. If someone were to kill a grasshopper, is that ruthless? I’m assuming you feel like it isn’t the same thing (as do I), but that further proves my point. You value the life of a dog over the life of a grasshopper, exactly the way you should value a human’s life over the life of a dog. They aren’t the same thing, and they just can’t be treated as such. You are classifying what is evil by your classification of what animal is important to you. If Vick killed a chicken, would you care as much? Chicken fighting goes on all the time (especially out here in Hawaii), yet I’ve haven’t seen people hate chicken fighters.
February 6th, 2014 at 9:46 pm
Point is, I strongly disagree that because someone kills a dog, they could “just as easily” kill a human. I think that is a generalization that I think you would have a hard time proving statistically. Most people kill because they don’t value the life of whatever they kill. If Vick valued the life of those dogs, he wouldn’t have killed them. That doesn’t mean he doesn’t value the life of a person. And no, you should not receive the same punishment for killing a dog as for killing a person. That’s just ridiculous. He served his time as deemed by the courts, and by all accounts he seems to be a model citizen. So I’ve got no problem with him being on this team, but I won’t be buying his jersey. But I sure as hell aren’t going to stop watching the team I love because he’s on it.
February 6th, 2014 at 11:27 pm
[No, Vick is not a murderer and he did not go to prison for murder and to the best of Joe’s knowledge is not a murderer looking for a person to gun down. Calm down. Joe’s responsible for what’s on this site and claiming Vick did time for something he was not charged for can get Joe in deep hot water. — Joe]
February 6th, 2014 at 11:30 pm
He’s too old and beat up
February 7th, 2014 at 12:07 am
@ Hawaiian
you’re certainly entitled to your opinions on that matter, just as the rest of us. I’ve put up with a lot of Bucs blunders since 76′ and still been a diehard fan (trust me being a Bucs fan where I’m from is already considered odd), but for me personally signing Vick (or since you brought up his name Hernandez if he ever gets out of prison and the Bucs are looking for a TE upgrade) is something that will cause me to take the season off until he is no longer a Buc. You have your perspective, and I have mine. Hopefully the Bucs look elsewhere for a QB and we can both enjoy watching Buccaneer games next year.
February 7th, 2014 at 12:56 am
@NY Buc,
Thats your prerogative. I, for one, will NEVER, EVER, EVER take a season off. I don’t care who we sign. I’m not in the business of judging the character of professional football players anyway. The name on the front of the jersey is what matters to me the most. There’s some really bad guys on every single team, as there are some really good guys on every team. I won’t dismiss good guys like Gerald McCoy and Vincent Jackson because the team has a few guys I don’t like.
February 7th, 2014 at 2:29 am
bucfanjeff Says:
February 6th, 2014 at 9:44 am
Dungy is over-using his name to get things done in the NFL. I appreciate him trying to help ‘his’ people, but his word is not gospel and it’s been treated as such.
I’m sorry, Vick is not and never was a good QB. He was\is athletic that happens to play the position. Now he’s old and fragile. He offers nothing.
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Tony Dungy is not the only one who uses his name to get things done. A lot of folks in their respective fields do the same thing.
February 7th, 2014 at 7:44 am
Our opinion is our opinion and we have every right to it.
Whether you agree or not killing is killing the very fact that he went to prison for murdering animals holds weight that even in our law system it was significant enough an offense to receive punishment.
Now if you think that the dominion/ responsibility we have been given over the earth includes the mistreatment of “life” (because indeed life is life is life) than that’s on you.
There is something sickening about any “thing”, cause that’s not a human at the point, that can find entertainment in the torture/brutality/death of innocent things that cannot do otherwise. It’s twisted and indeed evil Couch.
Yes he’s done his time but it’s because he got caught and had to, not because he wanted to.
February 7th, 2014 at 7:50 am
There’s a reason one of the major things that look for in “serial killer” profile is the killings/torture/devaluing of animal lives, because it indeed is an indicator of how those types of things grow.
That’s a whole different area but it was touched on here and wanted to give my two cents as well. I’m done though, goodnight.
February 7th, 2014 at 7:53 am
“I can assure you they could give 2 sh!ts less if some fans boycott the team.”
This ain’t Philly. It will get very ugly. I can assure you. They will care.