Dominik Hints Freeman Got Him Fired
February 12th, 2014
Coach killer?
Joe has written several times that the antics of leaky Rip Van Freeman in two cities — Freeman did his best to firebomb the Bucs locker room to force his way out and continued his tardy stunts in Minnesota — earned Freeman the dubious honor of getting three people fired: former Bucs rock star general manager Mark Dominik, former Bucs commander Greg Schiano and former Vikings head man Leslie Frazier (who is now the defensive coordinator of your Pewter Pirates).
Well, Dominik, while going through the BSPN car wash in Bristol earlier this week, appeared on the insufferable Cowherd Show when the subject of drafting quarterbacks came up. Cowherd stated given how the NFL is a pass happy league, no matter how good Jadeveon Clowney may be, he’d still draft Johnny Football. All Johnny’s perceived baggage was still preferable over Clowney because a defensive player “can’t win me games” but a quarterback can. Cowherd sneered that all of Seattle’s good draft picks didn’t win games “until Russell Wilson showed up.”
Dominik didn’t totally disagree with Cowherd on the value of quarterbacks and explained how picking a QB for a general manager is a high wire act: front office types know teams have to have a quarterback but there is zero margin for error.
“As a GM or a coach, if you pick a quarterback, you are married to that guy,” Dominik said. “If he succeeds, you are a genius. If it doesn’t, well, next guy in.”
Dominik very well could have been talking about himself. His very first pick as a general manager with the Bucs was Freeman. At times, it appeared Dominik hit a home run. But then Freeman melted down like ice cream on a July afternoon. And a weeks later, so did Dominik’s job.
An interesting sidenote to the interview: Dominik was adamant that Bucs quarterback Mike Glennon was the team’s highest rated signal-caller coming out of college in last spring’s draft; higher on their draft board than Geno Smith or EJ Manuel.
February 12th, 2014 at 8:24 am
I think Freeman helped Dominick out the door….but Dom had many other mistakes that finally caught up to him. We may never know what really happened to Freeman but it appears the drafting of Glennon expedited the bad behavior….Josh just couldn’t take the heat.
I will predict that if the Bucs find some real competiton for Glennon and he doesn’t win the job….he will take it like a pro and be a supportive backup.
February 12th, 2014 at 8:28 am
I think it more of the first 3 drafts,,,,and all the free agents that did not work out,,and all the bad trades,,,and the terrible interview process like when he hired Jeff Jagodzinski,,,just an overall poor performance if you ask me.
February 12th, 2014 at 8:30 am
Its nice how after all the people Freeman managed to get fired nobody just tells it like is in regards to his erratic behavior. The guy has been an absolute train wreck for what was suppose to be a franchise quarterback.
February 12th, 2014 at 8:42 am
@MTM
“Its nice how after all the people Freeman managed to get fired nobody just tells it like is in regards to his erratic behavior.”
You really can’t go around bad-mouthing players like that, no matter if true or not, for two reasons, first their agents and the NFLPA will come after you with all sorts of liable and defamation suits, second is the old adage, remember those who you meet on the way up, because they’ll be the same people you meet on the way down.
As far as Freeman goes, his agents left a nasty little paper trail of their misdeeds in trying to get him out of Tampa, and soon enough they’ll start to surface…
February 12th, 2014 at 8:46 am
Speaking of……how is that nflpa investigation of Schiano releasing information is going. Or has it disappeared like Dominik during a 3 game losing streak???
February 12th, 2014 at 8:54 am
One point several scout types have made is that his college win over FSU impressed them. I remember hoping for the kid to make a mistake but he kept finding the open man.
February 12th, 2014 at 8:56 am
When Schiano’s fate was made so was Dominik’s right or wrong he was not going to get a third chance with a head coach.
February 12th, 2014 at 8:56 am
Highest rated QB?…rated by Schiano, not the scouting dept
February 12th, 2014 at 8:57 am
EJ and Geno aren’t NFL backups even. Those 2 are a joke. At least Glennon is a serviceable backup.
February 12th, 2014 at 9:08 am
@flmike…hates Johnny Football
MTM is right about Freeman….and when it comes to “libel”…..not liable…..the truth is an absolute defense!
So, to accuse a player of irratic behavior and descrbing him as a trainwreck is perfectly legit.
February 12th, 2014 at 9:15 am
free’s a bum
February 12th, 2014 at 9:31 am
@Tampabaybucfan
Wanna check my thesis for spelling as well… 😉
Yes, the truth is an absolute defense, but you’ll never hear a front office guy at any level bad mouth any player or any other FO guy for any reason. The NFL is a very small world, and I mean very small, 1500 players and about the same number of direct team employees, thats 3k total, and like I said, the people who you meet on the way up are the same people you will meet on the way down. If you want to work n the League, you learn very quickly what to and what not to say in mixed company.
February 12th, 2014 at 9:35 am
Precisely why Johnny Football is an extremely risky pick for the longevity of Licht’s career here in Tampa. First pick of the franchise must be a winner or it will haunt the GM’s rep for the rest of his time.
Check out @nflosophy on Twitter. Besides having very deep insight on the Bucs organization (he worked for them as an assistant), yesterday he had an awesome breakdown of QBs that played in the Super Bowl and their respective draft positions over the last 25 years. The result? First rounders absolutely dominated the list. Late round QBs are ducks – almost never make it deep into the playoffs
February 12th, 2014 at 9:39 am
Noway these guys draft a QB first pick.
February 12th, 2014 at 9:46 am
“Nice twist!,” says Commander Schiano
I think people need to dig deeper into the original problem in the equation.
Hint: Laughing Stock II Commander and Chief
The snowball did not start with Freeman. Although I don’t agree with the actions of Freeman’s agent.
Lovie is here because the Glazers knew where the snowball began. At 0-8 the searching for a new coach was underway.
February 12th, 2014 at 9:54 am
@william
The wheels were really coming off the tracks during 2011 season. Remember the rally cry back then, we need to find a coaching staff to get Freeman back on track.
February 12th, 2014 at 9:55 am
Freeman was a big part of that but his biggest mistakes were schiano and letting Bennett walk. I’m kinda meh about Glendon but to be fair he was the best rookie qb last season hands down. He may need a more west coast styled offense infused with a strong running attack. I don’t think anyone here thinks sully got the best out of anybody on the offense when he got both Martin and James injued by sending them through the dragons teeth on every run play. As much as Johnny manhole looks flashy and whatnot, I think we need new guards and a de much much more. Yeah I may be settling for a brad Johnson type, but that is still the worst case scenario. If the defense is as special as it is supposed to be with lovie Glennon will be more than sufficient.
February 12th, 2014 at 9:57 am
There’s a new GM and HC in place; soon there will be a new starting QB
in place; like a certain radio personality said, it’s time to move
on from Freeman. The Rock star made several mistakes such
as not resigning Bennett, giving Michael “hands” Clayton a big contract,
hiring Jagodsinski, drafting Stocker, Bowers and of course the 28-52 record on
the field.
February 12th, 2014 at 10:03 am
I don’t think Freeman’s actions alone doomed Dominick. He got a chance with 2 different HCs, and the team was at no point showing consistent improvement.
I liked Dominick, and often think his mistakes get over emphasized and his hits are glossed over, however possibly more important than getting the right QB, is getting the right HC, and he didn’t do that, so I don’t blame the Glazers for not giving him a chance to bring a 3rd head coach in.
If his Head Coach pick would have panned out, I think people would have forgiven his selection of Freeman.
February 12th, 2014 at 10:08 am
@Tampabaybucfan
By the way, it is “describing” not “descrbing”.
Thought I’d give you a spelling lesson.
February 12th, 2014 at 10:25 am
Inconssistent talent evaluation got Dominick fired. He was pretty good at the other aspects of his job.
For Schiano, he had great talent evaluation skills, but his strict ways and bad press did him in…that and a lack of offense.
But to say Freeman had anything to do with Leslie Frazier getting fired is wrong. Frazier got fired because he was an indecisive head coach and was in over his head.
February 12th, 2014 at 10:26 am
Freeman didnt get Dominick fired. Dominick got Dominick fired. When he got hired in 2009 his job was to draft/find a franchise qb and build a team around him. Freeman had some success but if you look around week 15 2012 Freeman just melted down and that carried into the first three weeks this season. Why he went down so hard I dont know. But at the end of the day Dominick drafted that guy so he was held responsible.
February 12th, 2014 at 10:29 am
Freeman didn’t get Dominick fired, hiring Schiano got him fired. He got a coach that didn’t trust the starting QB, not a recipe for success. People put blame on Freeman when the offense was doing terrible, NEWS FLASH!, we finished last in the NFL. Freeman did all he could with the cast that we had. Our O line was overrated, we had no WR’s besides V. Jackson and M. Williams, our TE’s were putrid and even Doug Martin was having a bad year. Our offensive coaches were atrocious, rather than play chess with the defense, we were playing checkers. They knew what we were doing even before the snap. I think it would be a smart and great move to bring Freeman back to Tampa, the guy that hated him is gone and we finally have a player’s head coach again. Freeman’s problem was that he isn’t a “fiery guy”, you don’t have to when you’re making 4th quarter comebacks (something Glennon cannot do).The Vikings Giants game was a joke, how does anyone expect a QB to be good when you have only known the offense for 2 weeks and the players in it, Trent Richardson was playing terrible this year because he didn’t know the offense. Freeman is a laidback guy who needs a player’s coach who won’t be on his back because he’s not “leading the team” Freeman is considered a veteran with the amount of experience he has, only 25 years old, will come cheap and has a huge chip on his shoulder to prove to everyone that Schaino was wrong for all this turmoil. If players can get 2nd chances after fighting dogs (Vick) or killing someone (Stallworth), than Freeman can get another chance to be our starting QB.
February 12th, 2014 at 10:32 am
The_Buc_Realist Says:
February 12th, 2014 at 8:46 am
“Speaking of……how is that nflpa investigation of Schiano releasing information is going.”
He was cleared. It was decided that Freeman’s agent was the leak. His agent is the same one that Johnny Football signed with.
February 12th, 2014 at 10:32 am
The two sucking are not mutually exclusive.
Freeman sucked.
Dominick sucked and would have sucked even if he wasn’t stupid enough to let a first time head coach, with absolutely zero scouting experience, talk him into putting his reputation on the line by drafting Freeman.
Dominick should go with his strength and be a contract/cap nerd. Nothing wrong with playing to your strength.
February 12th, 2014 at 10:54 am
Im torn on Dom. He had gotten progressively better af all areas of his job towards the end, just took some major missteps the last year （Bennett, Blount, Goldson）. Whoever hires him next will have a very good seasoned GM who will only continue to get better.
February 12th, 2014 at 10:56 am
@ Joe
Would you be upset if our new GM and head coach bring Freeman back to see what he has left?
February 12th, 2014 at 10:57 am
I always hear media types say that whiffing on a QB drafted in the 1st round sets your franchise back years. How can you disagree with that? We whiffed on Freeman and now look at all of the energy devoted to the Glennon debate. Brandon Wheedon, Christian Ponder, Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert — all of those teams blow. Eli Manning, Philip Rivers, Matt Ryan, Andrew Luck — all of those teams are normally competitive year after year.
February 12th, 2014 at 11:04 am
You simply cannot dispute that Dom hitched his wagon to “all about five” and paid the appropriate price.
Glad he acknowledged this. Subtle yes, but an admission nonetheless.
February 12th, 2014 at 11:17 am
How is that nflpa investigation of Schiano releasing information is going? Pretty obvious that they found that Freeman was in the wrong. That is why it has been “swept under the rug”
Freeman’s dad must be VERY proud.
February 12th, 2014 at 11:21 am
If Freeman did that I can only say one thing.
Thank you!
February 12th, 2014 at 11:22 am
When Dominik speak as a football evaluate SME – I just cringe because he has made to jaw dropping missteps and he’s hit on some but the eval of players is not his strength.
Stick to the cap and numbers. I
February 12th, 2014 at 11:37 am
Rock star had Chip Kelly by the and he got away. Things would be much different. Eagles are in great shape!!
February 12th, 2014 at 11:41 am
Chip Kelly got away after he got his report on Dominick. he knew it was a no win situation with the Pop-star as the GM.
February 12th, 2014 at 11:44 am
Dominicks tenure had AMATEUR written all over it. Ownership stripped this team down to build through the draft, which didn’t improve until Schiano came to town.
Before Schiano we had 3 drafts that produced the following starters:
Freeman (along with the entire 2009 draft) – no longer on the team
Clayborn – serviceable DE but has underperformed for being a 1st round pick
Bowers – 2nd round pick that cant get on the field even when he’s given the job
Foster – 3rd round pick, solid LB
Williams – 4th round pick, starter with potential but question marks surround him
That’s 4 starters in 3 years of premium draft picks, 1 is off the team, 2 have underperformed and 1 has talent but lacks focus
2012: 1st Mark Barron 2nd Doug Martin 3rd Lavonte David
2013: 1st D. Revis 2nd Johnathan Banks 3rd Mike Glennon 4th A. Spence 5th W. Gholston 6th Mike James
That’s EIGHT players that contributed significantly from 2 drafts, 7 becoming starters. There’s a reason Schiano was interviewed quickly in Cleveland, Schiano has his flaws but the guy knows talent and can build a team through the draft. Dominick….not so much and he cant even build a team through free agency.
Dominick’s biggest strengths were contract negotiations and utilizing the local media as his puppets.
February 12th, 2014 at 11:48 am
“utilizing the local media as his puppets.”
HAA!!
February 12th, 2014 at 12:06 pm
Nothing new there, if you guys recall Dominik’s taped phone conversation with outgoing Buffalo GM Buddy Nix, he said the exact same thing. And that was with Freeman still on the roster and coming off a 4000 yard season.
February 12th, 2014 at 12:12 pm
The offense sucked with Freeman or with Glennon, because of Sully or Schiano meddling in it.
So I say whoever was calling the plays on offense got Dom and Schiano fired.
February 12th, 2014 at 12:27 pm
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February 12th, 2014 at 12:33 pm
So Freeman got Dom and Schiano fired, and allowed us to hire Frazier?
That makes me want to take the “bust” label off Freeman. What a huge favor he did for our team getting rid of 2 of those guys and getting Frazier available for us.
Thank you Josh! Seriously.
February 12th, 2014 at 12:50 pm
In the novel and movie ‘Mutiny on the Bounty’ it was the harshness of an out of control captain that led to the mutiny by the crew. Likewise, Schiano was destined to lose his crew with his archaic coaching style that just doesn’t work in today’s world in any business. Dominik would still be the GM if he could have tamed Schiano’s control-freak approach to coaching, but when it became evident the ship was taking on water and was going down under the leadership of “Captain Bligh” only 4-5 games in to the season, Dom should have made Schiano walk-the-plank and brought in Lovie right then. Instead, he conspired with Bligh, went to the owners and convinced them getting rid of the QB would save the ship from sinking.
And please don’t tell me that it’s a bad idea to fire a head coach during the season, it often works in baseball and basketball, the players will often respond to a regime change when it was obvious the previous regime had lost the locker room. Besides, even if it got worse, so what? The Bucs might have ended up with a 3-13 or even 2-14 record which would have put them in the no. 1 or 2 pick slot, Johnny Football would have been in reach! Even Freeman could have been traded for at least a 7th round pick and maybe even a box of cigars. Then Dominik could have gloated a little as to how is became one tough !@#$ GM.
Instead, the Bucs get the best-of-what’s-left with pick no. 7 and Dom and Schiano both walked the plank. Worse yet, he got no cigars.
February 12th, 2014 at 1:14 pm
Thats exactly why dominick and schiano are out on the street, hinting that he got fired for a bad draft isnt on josh freeman, its on mark dominick first of all and secondly he didnt get fired for picking one bad quarterback, he was fired for picking two….all those years he was gm and josh freeman was his most successful quarterback….thats a you problem not a josh freeman problem
i dont get it, when we had josh freeman no one was talking about bringing in josh mcCown or any other low rate quarterback, mccown had really done nothing in his entire career until he played for a hurt jay cutler but we have glennon who everyone wants to say is the the guy but there’s all this talk about what fa qb we should sign and which qb we should draft. not only were we the worst ranked passing offense in the league we were the most boring offense and i like lovie but im tired of the game manager mentality……i want a guy with a cannon for an arm even if it’s a guy that has to sit and develop but atleast someone with more upside than glennon
February 12th, 2014 at 1:21 pm
i heard that interview and he wont have a job for awhile, he’s weak minded you go out draft a quarterback in the first round but he failed josh freeman and glennon more than they failed themselves, when has dominick hit on a slot receiver, a tight end, not drafting offensive lineman….mike williams will never be more than a #2 guy…..and schiano proved one thing…..he is a great linebackers coach because that was the most productive unit we had both years he was here, so he’s not ready for head coach and dominick is a below average gm
Who should take the blame for the jeff jagodzinski and jim bates experiment oh that’s right that was raheem’s fault….he’s even more pathetic now than ever if he would ever hint that someone HE himself drafted got him fired……dont get me started joe
February 12th, 2014 at 1:21 pm
@Left_coast_buc_fan
you know that these same players “Mutiny” just 2 years before, when Rah was in charge. and the QB that would save the ship sunk it 2 years before. they were looking for a coach to “Get Freeman back on track”. Its been a disaster for many years and to just blame a coach is very short sighted.
February 12th, 2014 at 1:23 pm
Freeman was just one reason why. How are people still sticking up for the guy? Schiano’s fault?! C’mon, really? The dude flat out imploded PERIOD!
The pick was a reach to begin with from a team soooo desparate for a “franchise QB”. Nothing in his college resume said “first round talent”. It was a reach. The only reason they drafted him was Rah’s familiarity with him at Kansas and the absolute desperation.
Freeman was just a small part of Dom’s firing. There’s a big picture here!
February 12th, 2014 at 1:41 pm
NewTampaChris Says
“I always hear media types say that whiffing on a QB drafted in the 1st round sets your franchise back years. How can you disagree with that? We whiffed on Freeman and now look at all of the energy devoted to the Glennon debate. Brandon Wheedon, Christian Ponder, Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert — all of those teams blow. Eli Manning, Philip Rivers, Matt Ryan, Andrew Luck — all of those teams are normally competitive year after year.”
I firmly believe the teams that end up with franchise QBs are the teams that lend a focus on finding one until they succeed.
For example, we have Glennon. We have the 7th pick. There is free agency.
We could see what Glennon is, draft a QB in round one, and sign a mid level vet and see if we strike gold on any of them.
Does that mean I think we should draft a QB in the first round until we find one? No. It means right now, for this period, I think we should. Every draft will dictate it’s own policy according to the talent involved.
February 12th, 2014 at 1:44 pm
The_Buc_Realist Says
“you know that these same players “Mutiny” just 2 years before, when Rah was in charge. and the QB that would save the ship sunk it 2 years before. they were looking for a coach to “Get Freeman back on track”. Its been a disaster for many years and to just blame a coach is very short sighted.”
I have to agree with this statement.
I don’t feel though, that Rah left the organization better off than when he got it. With Greg Schiano I do, because he weeded out those bad eggs and brought had our two best drafts in years.
February 12th, 2014 at 1:57 pm
@BuccaneerBonzai
the head coach raheem isnt the one in charge of drafting players especially being that he was nothing more than a db coach before getting hired….yes the roster is much better of since greg schiano got her but thats only because of lavonte david and doug martin…..mark barron was an obvious pick but there are more players drafted after him that have been more productive like panthers linebacker
bottom line is we would be nowhere without vincent jackson….carl nicks wasted money, eric wright wasted money, tight end crabtree a waste, kellen winslow could have helped us, didnt even resign dallas clark, no slot receiver drafted, wasted pick on gabe carimi who’s gone. oh wallace gillberry go to cincy had 8 sacks, michael bennett superbowl, roy miller was worth the money for experience….dominick and schiano it was obvious after last offseason they were both gone…..we hardly have any picks to build through the draft this year so might as well package them together and go after the biggest best sure thing this year because if it wasnt for dominick having to work as a gm he would still have a job….freeman lasted 4 years here, he had 4 years to get that guy on track but no he hired sorry coaches no one working on his mechanics
they’ve never drafted a franchise qb with all the high draft picks we’ve had over these last years, other than gerald mccoy who was an obvious pick we’ve done nothing to beef up the defensive line
February 12th, 2014 at 1:59 pm
freeman was probably the crown jewel on mark dominik fails, but his track record hiring coaches (maybe he didn’t have much say in the raheem hire but that still leaves his fingerprints on 4 awful coordinators, 1 bad head coach, and 1 bad non-hire in letting Raheem be his own DC) and his tendency to overrate his own depth chart had alot to do with it. even as the bucs drafts started improving, those issues were holding the team back.
February 12th, 2014 at 2:01 pm
“Dom should have made Schiano walk the plank and brought in Lovie right then”…..
To put it simple, Dominick never had that option. No veteran coach was going to tie themselves to Dominick….NONE….ZERO. Look at who Dom interviewed, Chip Kelly and Schiano….WHY? Because those guys needed their first shot and have to make due with whatever GM will bring them in. Here’s the million dollar question….
WHY COULDN”T THE ROCK STAR LAND CHIP KELLY BUT PHILLY COULD?
COULD CHIP KELLY GET FREEMAN TO PERFORM BETTER VS BECOMING A TOTAL FLAME OUT?
Lovie could have kept Dom, they were likely talking and gauging who his staff would be at the 0-8 mark. Lovie didn’t want Dom, he wanted his own guy like any other veteran coach. Dom is good at contracts/salary cap but like his “mentor” Bruce Allen, he’s terrible with drafting and player evaluations and he’s not that great of a negotiator when it comes to pulling off deals. Everyone references all the talent he accumulated but at what price? Its easy to be the “highest bidder”, there’s really no skill in that and if you are going to pay the big bucks the results most follow. Players will always go to the highest guaranteed money, its that simple but the owners want production in the form of WINS.
Dominick will likely get another shot with a team that needs to get out of cap hell, that is his niche in the NFL. IF YOU COMPARE WHAT HE DID TO WHAT WAS AVAILABLE, DOMINICK MISSED AND BEING THE AMATEUR THAT HE IS, NEVER HEDGED HIS BETS. Simply put, a good GM would have brought in a rookie QB prospect in 2012 to hedge his bets on negotiating an extension with Freeman. This gives the rookie time to learn the system without throwing them to the wolves like the Glennon situation. It also negates Freeman and his agent from performing their shenigans in the final year. Do you know what QBS were available in rounds 3-4 of 2012?….
Russell Wilson and Nick Foles….the same round they took Glennon. Wilson has a ring and Joe’s beloved Manziel is often compared to him. Both the Seahawks and Eagles had just signed big contracts to Vick and Flynn, yet both still drafted young QBs to groom. Thats what a good GM does, hell the Seahawks got a 5th round pick from the Raiders for Flynn. Dominick got NOTHING for Freeman except his own pink slip.
February 12th, 2014 at 2:04 pm
He drafted freeman, but that’s Raheem’s pick written all over he coaches him at K-state. 2010 had missed but look at all 32 teams. He did draft four starters. Look he’s not here but the buc realist is being a bitter loser. Dear current GM Jason: you are not allowed to miss on a pick, miss on a trade or sign any players that don’t play as well or can’t stay healthy, signed The Buc Realist
Chill out man
February 12th, 2014 at 2:07 pm
Oh yeah all those high picks you mean the one we used on Gerald McCoy? Yep wasted high pick. Guess they should have known on Russell Wilson with the other high pick and taken him #5 overall instead of getting Barron, Martin and david. Since everyone knew Russell would be a stud
February 12th, 2014 at 2:08 pm
Bucs are in prime spot to pick a QB. Get on the record now and pick one, since it’s so easy. I hope we do! Just better be right on it or as Dom says you’re fired.
February 12th, 2014 at 2:16 pm
REALLY DUDE
your telling me mark dominick hired a defensive backs coach as head coach and raheem strong armed him, twisted his arm and made him draft freeman? scouting had nothing to do with it huh? if you cant hit on a top 10 pick you should be fired…if your saying raheem is in charge of drafting why is it such a big deal now that lovie wants roster control. mike williams was drafted AFTER arrelious benn. brian price right after gerald mccoy, 2nd round picks should be high value picks because of the money everybody misses on picks just like seattle seahawks have but they got that one right which was russell wilson so no one talks about their drafts but guess what when you have like a 12 year drought without winning a playoff game then everybody has to go. blame freeman for his play not for being drafted, you can even blame dominick for not getting him the help he needed by drafting weapons or even getting help with mechanics…wonder why this new coaching staff believes in coaching hmmmm sounds like we have winner now and dominick can go kick rocks, he got fired because he was garbage and he was a weak gm, weakminded that he even let schiano come in and dominate him….sorry son of a so and so
February 12th, 2014 at 2:31 pm
If Dominick chose Freeman on his own, he’s stupid, because Freeman blows. And we will watch him continue to blow until he’s out of the league.
If Dominick chose Freeman because of Raheem, he’s also stupid, because it’s idiotic to make your first huge franchise picks based on someone elses pleading.
Bottom line, both Dominick and Freeman suck.
February 12th, 2014 at 2:34 pm
@JOE
this subject has my irritation and aggravation, great job but it makes me happier than ever that one buc place is continuing make moves cutting the riff raff left over from schiano and dominick….dumb fools didnt clean up the locker room the took it’s talent and gave it away like a garage sale. it’s clear they had no idea what the difference is between lockerroom personality and off field personalities
last summer he projected bowers to get double digit sacks, isnt that when that idiot decided to take a gun into a new york airport security NEW YORK? clearly sign he was going to be a bust and if if his career is someone resurrected from the dead in the offseason…i’ll be the first in line to take more jabs and shots at the pathetic efforts of schiano and dominick….welcome to back to relevancy ladies and gentleman we’ll earn respect this year regardless of the number of wins or making the playoffs and i think i’d love to see them do it with this roster just to prove a point….we the talent dungy left gruden we should have had more than one superbowl appearance
February 12th, 2014 at 3:25 pm
Hey look I liked the guy, I don’t hate him like you do. I thought Glennon, Martin, James, penn, Dotson, nicks, Williams, Jackson, Clayborn, McCoy, foster, revis, david, goldson, Barron and gholston were talented. My bad. Oh yeah and guys like Watson, lorig, spence and banks are bums. Time will tell when the 53 comes out. Again I want us to draft a QB! End of story.
February 12th, 2014 at 3:37 pm
i second that one…..if we truly have the roster talent then package something together and go get a quarterback….glennon was drafted in the third round but he’s no russell wilson i’d like to see them get bold and make a move for what they think could be a franchise qb or say it’s glennon, tired of the guessing and back and forth…..i wanna be one of those teams that have no question marks about their quarterback
February 12th, 2014 at 5:37 pm
Josh Freeman THE poisonous bum
That is all
February 12th, 2014 at 8:04 pm
Amen
February 12th, 2014 at 11:04 pm
I did not known Freeman owned a team. Maybe he should look at his record and stop blaming Freeman,or anyone for his inability to put together a winning team.
February 12th, 2014 at 11:15 pm
Ed. Put the pipe down and back away from the table
February 12th, 2014 at 11:20 pm
Dominick being Dominick got Dominick fired
February 12th, 2014 at 11:31 pm
I would expect nothing less from that gutless fake…lets hope this new regime stays far away from the ” golf tournament” crowd and their perceived power….
February 13th, 2014 at 12:40 am
Yeah whatever you guys tried to say
February 13th, 2014 at 8:05 pm
Never liked either one of them. But hey, he’s the reason we were saddled with Raheem, Freeman and the regular cast of idiots for those very long seasons. You reap what you sow.