Mike Williams Responds
January 31st, 2014
Yesterday, PewterReport.com had an explosive article that claimed Mike Williams was on the brink of being cut had former Bucs rock star general manager Mark Dominik and former commander Greg Schiano survived for another season.
Why? Williams had become lazy, per Pewter Report, and was not just channeling leaky Rip Van Freeman but was also getting deep into rap music.
The report also stated Williams racked up some $200,000 in fines for missing meetings and rehab appointments, and for tardiness.
Later in the day, it was learned that the NFL forbids teams from fining players on injured reserve and said players are not required to attend team meetings, thus cannot be fined for missing said meetings.
The ultimate source in this story, Williams, had his say, and much to the chagrin of his old coach, took to social media to air his grievances.
Joe is going to clean up what Williams wrote, but in a nutshell Williams said he will post Twitter and Instagram stuff to his liking and no one is forced to read what he posts. Additionally, Williams stated he has been rehabbing his surgically repaired hamstring the past “two weeks straight” and just because he doesn’t Twitter about it doesn’t mean he isn’t rehabbing.
There were so many ways to look at the story but as Joe wrote yesterday, Joe was very sketical was that the Dominik/Schiano duo seriously considered cutting Williams for these alleged heinous sins and replacing him with the notorious Kenny Britt, who runs afoul of the law so often he owns a pair of monogrammed handcuffs.
So the alleged logic was the Bucs were going to cut a reliable No. 2 receiver because he is tardy to meetings and has unseemly friends and replace him with a guy who has a rap sheet as long as Joe’s arm?
Last Joe checked, being late to meetings and posting odd things on Twitter and Instagram isn’t quite enough to sentence said person to wear an orange jump suit and pick up trash along the interstate, or do time in the hole.
January 31st, 2014 at 8:17 am
Yeah, but Britt was a Rutgers Man……and I wouldn’t put it past the “disappointing duo”
Us die hards have seen the writing on the wall for a while now. Hope Lovie can can cure him if his stupidity…
January 31st, 2014 at 8:22 am
Hopefully Mike will have a new quarterback, Johnny Football throwing him TD passes and everything will be good.
January 31st, 2014 at 8:30 am
So pewter report is going to post a retraction since they were dead wrong?
January 31st, 2014 at 8:41 am
They never do retractions. They either remove the original story from their website or they simple refuse to comment on it so it all goes away.
They’ve been caught in a lie several times, yet people still pay for content. The Onion is more reliable.
January 31st, 2014 at 9:10 am
If you read there whole article, which I don’t think most have done before passing judgement. You will get a different meaning of the whole article. Also maybe if this kind of reporting was done for Freeman, maybe some things would have been different. And no one is saying that posting pictures at the bar is bad, but being at the bar in bad shape on Friday when a game is going on Sunday is bad. I will not say if this is the case with Williams, But some of us know that Freeman and Williams were on Occasion were drinking buddys.
January 31st, 2014 at 9:13 am
I hate to defend PR, because I agree they pretty much suck. But the article wasn’t about PR blasting Mike for his social media. It was about the old regime not liking what he put on there. I for one wouldn’t doubt for a second that Schiano and the gang would hang a man out to dry for that kind of thing. That has been their whole M.O. since the day Greggy got here.
January 31st, 2014 at 9:17 am
Again, I dont see a problem with the report or the article as this baffoon posts pictures with gold chains on and a full beard looking like a wanna be.
quite honestly I am sick of these spoiled atheletes who are simply good just for entertainment and they complain when people bring attention to their stupidity.Mike Williams was troubled out of HS and College and we still drafted him knowing this. shame on us and the Bucs for paying him.
i dont care if his number reduce this year – hes a turd. We shouldve let him walk.
January 31st, 2014 at 9:20 am
Some shoddy research by these commenters.
Per your previous article: “NFL does not require players on IR to attend team meetings” – so he could be fined for a lot of other things, you know like… missing rehab appointments? And the fact that he’s been fined $200,000 has yet to be refuted, all that’s been refuted is what specifically he’s been fined for.
Second, per the article from PR, they were looking at replacing Williams with Britt in training camp (if Williams didn’t get his act together). It’s not like they’re entire plan rested on bringing in Britt.
Third, it’s not like Williams was playing that great before his hamstring injury. As others have pointed out, this might be a Michael Clayton situation again.
January 31st, 2014 at 9:30 am
Pewter Report is just fabricating a story because Bucs news is tappering off now that the coaching staff and GM are in place. Even if this was true and the team cut MW they would more than likeky have to pay off his contract since he just signed a new one but Dom was smarter tham that and would have sought a trade option.There’s to much value in MW than just cutting him. Pewter Reort are a bunch of A holes. Didn’t something like this pop up last year, a complete lie they made up and got caught in.
January 31st, 2014 at 9:41 am
Now I wonder who leaked this story Joe ? If I had to guess I’d say it was the same ppl that leaked the Freeman story see the trend? Badmouth anybody that doesn’t March to your tune and try to justify why u want to get rid of them an then make it worst by trying to justify your replacement which does worst things then the replacee hahaha I’m glad those Assclown are burnt toast
January 31st, 2014 at 9:46 am
@Bonzai
Give one example to your claim about PR. You’re full of it.
@Architek
It’s impossible for Mike Williams to be a wanna-be, at least by my definition of what a wanna-be is.
January 31st, 2014 at 9:49 am
Maybe this is all a good thing. Lit a small fire under Williams behind to show everyone the story was somewhat fabricated.
January 31st, 2014 at 10:35 am
Money can do strange things to people. It can corrupt the mind in the worst possible way and give one a false sense of security or self worth.
I can tell you that if he is with the program, he’s in and if he is not, then Lovie will kick him to the curb. He may have decent trade value now, which could be worth exploring.
January 31st, 2014 at 11:04 am
Exactly Justin…that is my hope as well. He wasn’t exactly tearing it up before the injury this year, as I remember. Maybe he will get that chip on his shoulder again.
January 31st, 2014 at 12:59 pm
I could care less if Williams is a rapper. A lot of great players have tried rapping and done just fine. However, Williams posts are often times downright scary. He had a post recently about how he was going to spend 30k in a night just because he could (including a 5k tip). While that means nothing as far as his playing, that’s still a troubling post in my opinion, and it’s far from the only one. You can see a clear change in his posts almost from the day he signed his new contract. It would be stupid to cut him, but there absolutely should be a great deal of concern. We need him to be a great player for us to have success. There’s no way around that. It doesn’t matter if he’s getting fined or not, I am concerned if he is missing rehab appointments. How can you sign a fat new contract and do that? It’s at minimum irresponsible. While perhaps PR overreacted and exaggerated, is there anyone here that doesn’t have a great deal of concern about #19? Hopefully this will rededicate him to what allowed him to start a rap group and spend 30k in one night.
January 31st, 2014 at 1:21 pm
Just.. not you Mike, please don’t be that guy. You’re far too good of a receiver for any of these thoughts to seep into my mind.
January 31st, 2014 at 1:35 pm
I actually applaud Pewter Report for having the guts to publish a story like this. While the majority of Tampa knew the “issues” with Josh Freeman, it was prohibited here on JBF from being talked about because the Joe’s had never witnessed it for themselves.
Also, whether a player can be fined or not for missing a meeting while on IR shouldn’t matter. If the player gave half a damn about his team and his career, and wasn’t laid up in a hospital bed, he should care enough to go to meetings to learn. While on IR, they are still getting paid!
First, you’re right. Joe doesn’t have the guts to publish massive, anonymous-sourced things such as this. Joe adheres to a different standard. Second, Josh Freeman’s “issues” surely aren’t known by the majority of Tampa and, to this day, there is no proof of his misdeeds that qualify as “issues.” Joe was very fast to report and provide audio for the odd, wasted-sounding interview Freeman gave on 620 WDAE-AM last summer. Joe’s quite certain other outlets didn’t do that. Lots of times, players are not really wanted or expected in meetings if they’re on IR. Sounds wacky, but that is often the case. –Joe
January 31st, 2014 at 1:57 pm
stories like this s why I haven’t read “pooter report” in a long time. pooter report has people (including Joe Bucs fan) believing that Freeman was a coke head…if that’s the case, congrats to Freeman for passing numerous drug tests and cashing in on millions of dollars! Freeman was responsible for three coaches being fired (cough cough) even though Pooter Report acknowledged that Schiano was still loosening reigns even after Freeman’s departure.
January 31st, 2014 at 2:02 pm
@feelthepewterpower,
So does that mean you have absolutely zero concern when it comes to Mike Williams?
And to correct you, Pewter Report has never reported Freeman was a coke head. They were actually extremely supportive of Freeman during the whole mess. They only changed their stance weeks later after more information came in. And they never once said anything about cocaine. Don’t accuse incorrectly. It only makes your point weaker.
January 31st, 2014 at 2:18 pm
Joe,
I bet Richard Nixon wished Bob Woodward wouldn’t have had the guts to run with his “anonymous sources”.
January 31st, 2014 at 2:40 pm
Boy, we sure are quick to run a guy up a flagpole aren’t we?!
We’re not talking about Carl Nicks and his reahab. Why? Where has he been?
A guy, a young guy, is out partying and having fun and posts it on instagram and suddenly he’s a malcontent on the verge of being cut. What’s he supposed to be doing on INJURED RESERVE?! Run routes on one leg?! Is that honing his craft? He’s a freaking wide receiver!
The story was stupid as well as some of these posts. Why are we still talking about the “old regime”? Kenny Britt? Really?! If you believed that, you probably still think that Schiano sabotaged the great Josh Freeman’s career! You’re probably the same hypocrites who were screaming about that thug Justin…er, Richard Sherman, you know, that guy with the 3.9 GPA from Stanford, and his “antics”.
The proof will come on the playing field and I’m pretty sure loafing won’t be tolerated by Lovie.
Until then, party on Mike!
January 31st, 2014 at 2:56 pm
FYI, Carl Nicks has been in the building every day rehabbing. That was reported today actually. So nice try, but dead wrong.
What could he be doing on injured reserve? I don’t know, lifting weights? Working in the pool. Believe it or not, they do have things you can do. I know that may be mind blowing to you, but it is fact.
I have no problem with Sherman. Great player, highly intelligent, would love to have him on my team. So don’t classify me or others because we are concerned he isn’t taking football seriously. If you aren’t at minimum concerned, then you’re pretty naive. I don’t care if he raps, I don’t care if he parties, I don’t care if he wastes his money, but I am concerned that he apparently isn’t intelligent enough to understand how to represent himself on social media. If you read his posts, they are consistently scary, creepy, and in very poor taste. He’s a multi-million dollar athlete who is in the public eye – ACT LIKE IT. That’s not too much to ask is it? Show some dedication to your profession, because your profession can be taken away from you in an instant. He’s going down the path of having just that happen. Encourage him to continue this behavior and you just watch it happen.
January 31st, 2014 at 3:10 pm
Hmm. Mike Williams wasn’t tearing it up this year, before he got hurt?
Nobody was tearing it up. Not Williams, Jackson, Martin, Glennon, or the Mascot!!
We went 0-8. Winless teams usually aren’t “tearing it up”. We were running that magnificent Rutgers offense. No TE, RB, or slot Reciever running routes. Just two double teamed Recievers. Nobody looked good.
I tend to favor, not surprisingly, the Players in this kind of rumor mongering. Of course, Freeman makes me a lil gun shy about that.
Hopefully , Williams is fine- and working hard.
And PR is just irresponsible -as is the norm.
January 31st, 2014 at 3:24 pm
Hey Joe,
Who was the source from the organization who made the statement he was on verge to be cut.. Who is the source? It sems like people have it easy to make up stories about 2 guys that arent there anymore..
January 31st, 2014 at 3:31 pm
I like how we get on these post and act all high and mighty. Just because a person is rehabbing, it does not mean he has to rehab at midnight when most are in the clubs. Can’t a 24 yr old enjoy his or her money without being viewed as lazy? Who are we to tell someone how to talk? Your standards are not everyone else standards and your standards are no better. Stop trying to put everyone in the same vanilla box. Differences between people’s personalities are what makes this a beautiful world. I love the great Tony Dungy, but this would be a boring place if we all act and talk like Dungy. i say thank God for the Charles Barkley’s of the world. Live Mike, Live!!!!!!!!!
January 31st, 2014 at 3:35 pm
Agree with Cpt Tim especially about the Freeman part. So, whatever happened to that NFL Players Union investigation? They certainly kept their pain in the neck mouths shut when it became apparent that the Bucs were not the source behind the leaks. Gotta love how they hold their own (Josh Freeman) accountable.
January 31st, 2014 at 4:15 pm
like many young athletes before and many that will come since, mike williams will never believe his activities detract from his responsibilities as a pro football player, because he is surrounded by enablers and toadies like his caveman gang. for every deion sanders who could party and blow money and toy with other avenues of fame like a rap career and still be one of the greatest players of his generation, there are 50 guys who go that route and blow their shot at a lucrative NFL career. even chad johnson lost fell hard when being famous became more important to him than what made him famous. i wonder what mike vick’s response to his detractors would have been in a twitter\instagram-dominated era when he was having his herpes\airport\photographed with a blunt incidents in his latter falcons years in the run-up to finally getting caught doing something inconceivably stupid, inhumane, and indefensible.
January 31st, 2014 at 4:18 pm
not saying that mike williams is on his way to electrocuting dogs, just that i highly doubt anybody he accepts counsel from right now is challenging him on whether his priorities are straight or whether he is making good choices on a daily (or nightly) basis. i haven’t heard and don’t care to hear his music, but i wonder if his caveman gang actually thinks he’s a good rapper or if they just want to leverage his fame and wealth.
January 31st, 2014 at 4:22 pm
Judging by the fact that no one has said they are at minimum concerned, that would lead me to believe that you are concerned. You should be. I for one truly hope this motivates him and he makes me look stupid. However, this has nothing to do with being high and mighty. I’ve partied my share at that age. That’s not the issue. Its the creepy nature of his posts. Even his rebuttal is creepy. His attitude is far different from the man that apologized and took full responsibility for being (unjustly) arrested for DUI as a rookie. Instead of maturing, he seems to be regressing in maturity, which completely coincides with his new contract. That makes me nervous. It should make everyone nervous. That’s all I’m saying. Its crazy to cut him.
January 31st, 2014 at 4:34 pm
Hawaiian Buc Says:
So does that mean you have absolutely zero concern when it comes to Mike Williams?
And to correct you, Pewter Report has never reported Freeman was a coke head. They were actually extremely supportive of Freeman during the whole mess. They only changed their stance weeks later after more information came in. And they never once said anything about cocaine. Don’t accuse incorrectly. It only makes your point weaker.
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Correct me on what? Pooter Report’s anonymous source(s)? Those same “anonymous sources” also said Schiano would remain the head coach. They’re assuming/implying Josh Freeman is a complete drug (aka coke head) addict when he was tested regularly. We know he was tested regularly tested because of the leak, and who was the source the leak.
Is it not possible it was from the guy who from day-one wanted an open competition at quarterback? Funny, there were no problems with Josh in 2012 missing meetings, etc. and he was the only player to show up to Schiano first presser. In 2013, Buccs draft Glennon (everyone was shocked and miffed we wasted a third rounder on a qb with other needs). Glennon also gets the majority of snaps in preseason, and we lost opening day because a lack of preparation, and a late personal foul on David. Did it occur to you that quite possibly this “anon source” was Schiano himself?
January 31st, 2014 at 5:03 pm
@feelthepewterpower,
First of all, they have never, ever assumed or implied anything about cocaine. Nothing could be further from the truth. In fact, Reynolds said while all the Freeman stuff was going on that he wouldn’t trust many people to watch his kids, but he would trust Freeman. So I am correcting you in what is a completely false statement. I’m not a huge fan of PR, but I do read it regularly (I read as much Bucs info as I possibly can), and don’t think it’s cool to make stuff up – which is clearly what you are doing. And actually, we don’t know the source of the leak. I believed all along it was Schiano (and it may still be), but funny how the players union has been silent, don’t you think? Every single article I have read has said it is obvious the leak came from the Freeman camp (which couldn’t be any stupider, but at this point nothing surprises me). So you should get your facts straight before you blast someone, because you clearly are clueless to what you are saying.
Freeman was late before last year. I witnessed it first hand in my one and only game in Tampa that season. I’ve told the story several times, so I’ll save you from it again (unless you want it). Keep in mind, I can’t stand Schiano as our coach. He totally screwed up that situation and I couldn’t be happier he is gone. However, the blame lies on both, and Freeman is in no way free of blame. The same stuff has reportedly happened in Minnesota. Wanna wager if they try to bring him back? I’ll put my money on no. Schiano was a terrible NFL coach, and he should never even be interviewed for another NFL job. However, he wasn’t the only problem. I wish he was, but that’s just wishful thinking.
January 31st, 2014 at 5:11 pm
“but being at the bar in bad shape on Friday when a game is going on Sunday is bad”
So, you’re saying you’ve never been in a bar drunk on a Saturday night , before having to work on Monday?? Same time frame, so what’s the difference, you’re need to be pleased by his performance ? Get real.
Also. as far as the Freeman leak scandal, the silence from the NFL investigation could, quite possibly, indicate that the ‘Old Schiano Order ‘ was adept enough at lying that the investigators couldn’t say anything about it, even if they were convinced the team made the leak. Liability issues, don’t ya know. Not saying it wasn’t Freeman, just that none of us were there & most of what’s said about the situation is pure speculation. Sure he missed meetings, but the Joes reported that at least one of those was due to misdirection from Management that Dominik wanted him at a different location. ( from memory, perhaps Joe will correct me) In addition, who knows how many of his missed throws on the field were due to Free alone, or poor coaching , with reciever & QB on different pages. We’ve got no clue what play was called, or what that play called for. Everything I’ve read so far has been based on speculation based on what the analyst (Pro & Amateur) saw actually done on the field, with no DIRECT knowledge of what was SUPPOSED to be done. Frankly, looking at the ‘Old Schiano Order’s efforts both Pre and Post Freeman I don’t see a whole helluva lot of difference, bot QBs had a short streak of wins, surrounded by a lot of losses. Not an endorsement of either QB, but not an indictment, either. Who the heck knows what kind of difference decent coaching & game management would have made. Far as I’m concerned , it’s ALL Schiano’s fault, until someone proves different, and silence, on anybodys part is proof of nothing but silence!
January 31st, 2014 at 5:17 pm
sorry , meant NFL Players Union, not NFL
January 31st, 2014 at 5:46 pm
This report by PP.com really annoys me. Why attack our #2 WR? Our guy that nearly had ANOTHER 1k season 2 years ago and a guy that definately woulda helped us this year! We’ve just signed him to a deal he earned – getting rid of him would be dumber than Penalties for tackling a QBs legs <_<
January 31st, 2014 at 6:11 pm
How was he attacked? The title of the article was “Williams’ Dedication To Football Questioned By Former Regime”. Should they have not reported that? It seems pretty relevant to me. I have a feeling 90% of the people posting here have yet to even read the article, but I guess that’s to be expected. If you think for one second that all teams don’t monitor the social media accounts of their players, then you are a complete fool. If you were running a business and someone you just committed millions of dollars to all of a sudden starting tweeting crazy stuff, would you not be concerned? If you say no, then you would be a terrible business man. Of course they should be concerned, and I guarantee you the new regime is concerned as well. Wanna try and argue that (pretty sure Lovie isn’t going to be chilling at Mike’s house helping him write rap lyrics and spending 30k in a night)? I guess you belong to the camp that you shouldn’t report on anything unless it is good news. Let’s just all go ahead and ignore red flags. That usually works out great.
January 31st, 2014 at 6:22 pm
THIS is garbage…not the article joe but what a joke we became under dominick and schiano…no one can ever make jokes about raheem morris
so you mean that the guy became lazy and started to party AFTER his big contract? he is just now rapping for the first time ever THIS SEASON, he’s not participating in anything football related because of injury but it’s a story that he isnt posting anything about the bucs….maybe he couldnt contain his excitement of escaping greg schiano…dumb idiots why didnt they keep the veteran receivers they signed for training camp if this was an issue, i think pewter report will be making an apology
i hope he didnt get this story from gregory himself….why didnt missing of team meetings leak out until end of season no one could shut about when it came to leaks about freeman…this must have come from greg schiano, hope you didnt pay for this story but it speaks to how things were run around here that we decided to give another big contract to someone with “off field issues”
i dont think i could handle another michael clayton or quincy black contract….we will see what kind of season he has this year because if he’s ineffective in the pass game everyone will assume these allegations are true
January 31st, 2014 at 6:23 pm
Hawaiian Buc Says:
First of all, they have never, ever assumed or implied anything about cocaine. Nothing could be further from the truth. In fact, Reynolds said while all the Freeman stuff was going on that he wouldn’t trust many people to watch his kids, but he would trust Freeman. So I am correcting you in what is a completely false statement. I’m not a huge fan of PR, but I do read it regularly (I read as much Bucs info as I possibly can), and don’t think it’s cool to make stuff up – which is clearly what you are doing. And actually, we don’t know the source of the leak. I believed all along it was Schiano (and it may still be), but funny how the players union has been silent, don’t you think? Every single article I have read has said it is obvious the leak came from the Freeman camp (which couldn’t be any stupider, but at this point nothing surprises me). So you should get your facts straight before you blast someone, because you clearly are clueless to what you are saying.
Freeman was late before last year. I witnessed it first hand in my one and only game in Tampa that season. I’ve told the story several times, so I’ll save you from it again (unless you want it). Keep in mind, I can’t stand Schiano as our coach. He totally screwed up that situation and I couldn’t be happier he is gone. However, the blame lies on both, and Freeman is in no way free of blame. The same stuff has reportedly happened in Minnesota. Wanna wager if they try to bring him back? I’ll put my money on no. Schiano was a terrible NFL coach, and he should never even be interviewed for another NFL job. However, he wasn’t the only problem. I wish he was, but that’s just wishful thinking.
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Just because Reynolds of the Pooter Report initially supported him (he’s a kstate grad as well so no shocker there) doesn’t mean his new info was factual and correct. Just like with Mike Williams, they’re going on “anon source” info. No, you’re right, they didn’t call him a coke addict, that was my implication of their article in which one freeman basher sent to me, and the same implication I hear from many free bashers about Josh. PR’s change of tune article (again, based on anaon sources which is a joke, and makes me assume they feel their readers clueless) leads the reader to believe that it was Josh’s fault (drug issues, irrational behavior, etc. al) , not Schiano’s. And even Pewter Report admitted in that same article that despite all this anon sourcing with Freeman being the problem, Schiano still had make mends, IE – reduce the amount of meal check-ins to gameday and walk throughs, even after Freeman was gone. This clearly tells me the players were not happy with Schiano, as we’ve seen that with a few of the comments post-schiano’s departure.
Why is the union silent? Could be a number reasons… Perhaps The Buccs were forced cut freeman as part of the negotiations in order to avoid violation penalties, and in return received no compensation for him when it seems apparent there were several offers from multiple teams seeking his services based on the Vikings deal. The team didn’t want the distraction and black eye, and both sides decided to keep negotiations silent, out of the media; the player has that right. Perhaps a deal was in place as well to fire Schiano at the end of the season, regardless of what happened. Agreed, why would Freeman leak bad press on himself, doesn’t make sense. So Josh could get sent home with pay but not cut and have his value on the open market reduced? So it would reduce the odds of him being traded and getting out of a bad situation? Doesn’t make sense, you’re right.
“Freeman was late before last year. I witnessed it first hand in my one and only game in Tampa that season. I’ve told the story several times, so I’ll save you from it again (unless you want it).” We’re all late for work at one time or another. My point is, is that wasn’t an issue in 2012. Show me a source in 2012 showing us where Freeman had issues attending meetings, a disruption, etc? Sounds like were on the save wavelength on Schiano. Was Freeman without fault? Of course not. In 2012 the team was in top ten of offense and he deserved more than three games, especially considering it was against tough opponents and we were in position to be 2-1. If he needed help, aka the coke addict theory, and needed some time off to work on his problems, then yes, he deserved the time off. But there’s no proof he had those problems as PR alleges.
“The same stuff has reportedly happened in Minnesota” My point exactly….anon souces in Minny ala anon sources Pooter report cites. Here’s what Leslie Frazier stated about Free:
““He worked as hard as he could every week to prepare and be ready to go,’’ Frazier said. “He was a pro in every sense of the word. But we made a decision to try to figure out where Christian Ponder was and also take a look at Matt Cassel because we were trying to determine and get some answers regarding our quarterback position. Josh got caught up in the shuffle. It probably wasn’t a fair situation for him. It made it difficult for him. It made it difficult for all of us when you’re trying to evaluate quarterbacks in an NFL season. That’s not a wise thing. Nothing to do with Josh. He prepared and worked as hard as he could to get on the field. It just didn’t work out.’’
January 31st, 2014 at 6:48 pm
Everything is going to anonymous in this day and age!! HELLO!!! You should just read buccaneers.com if you only want named sources. This is the bottom line: was the prior regime concerned about Williams? Yes, and they should have been. Is the current regime concerned about Williams? I’d bet my house on it. I don’t need anonymous sources to come to that conclusion. I’ve made (and read) a couple posts about this well before PR said a word. No he shouldn’t be cut, and yes Schiano was a jack arse, but that doesn’t change the fact that there is a concern. If you are too stubborn, stupid, or naive to believe that, then I can’t help you.
January 31st, 2014 at 6:50 pm
And no, the QB of an NFL team cannot be late for work, not even once. Especially when practice started at 11am.
January 31st, 2014 at 8:58 pm
Everything is going to anonymous in this day and age!! HELLO!!! You should just read buccaneers.com if you only want named sources. This is the bottom line: was the prior regime concerned about Williams? Yes, and they should have been. Is the current regime concerned about Williams? I’d bet my house on it. I don’t need anonymous sources to come to that conclusion. I’ve made (and read) a couple posts about this well before PR said a word. No he shouldn’t be cut, and yes Schiano was a jack arse, but that doesn’t change the fact that there is a concern. If you are too stubborn, stupid, or naive to believe that, then I can’t help you.
And that’s my point. everything is anon, so you can’t believe every anon source you hear. Take it with a grain of salt, my man.
The previous regime was concerned with too many things; unfortunately, they werent the things needed to make the team successful. Funny, Schiano said he was proud of the team’s culture when he left, yet wanted to get rid of mike in favor of another guy with character issues. Makes no sense, Joe is right. You were so adamant on PR changing their tune, it was a big deal, since they had this anon source telling them that Josh was the main source of the problems, but I digress.
“And no, the QB of an NFL team cannot be late for work, not even once. Especially when practice started at 11am.”
Oh dear lord.
January 31st, 2014 at 9:02 pm
You stated Freeman wasn’t late before last year, I stated proof that he was. So this wasn’t just a one year thing.
Like I’ve said and you don’t understand, it is a cause for concern. THAT’S ALL I’M SAYING!!!!!! Get it? Disagree?
January 31st, 2014 at 9:26 pm
Pewter Report? That’s a big – “who cares”. That site has been circling the drain since the magazine went out of print. I’ve been a subscriber for years, but I won’t renew again.
January 31st, 2014 at 9:55 pm
I’m sorry, but as a Bucs fan, I have never seen anything that points toward Mike Williams being Lazy. If he has a side profession, that in my mind is only smart, because it gives him something to perhaps fall back on when his career ends and as we know, that could come on any given play.
Like William, I am also a native Buffalonian. We are gritty, determined bunch, but lazy? No way. It’s a group of people who bring their lunch pal every day and as fans, we don’t come to the game late or leave early, because that gives the visiting team an advantage. I have converted to a full time Bucs fan, but you can’t take the “Buffalo grit” out of the person. I’m proud of Mike Williams and I expect a big year from him.
February 1st, 2014 at 6:25 am
Ira Kaufman said today that there were many issues with Williams and he believes the PR report. I think he would know.
February 1st, 2014 at 9:11 am
I love coming to Joe’s to read about the Bucs but I can’t recall a time where I learned about a breaking news story here. It’s just a one stop place to get all your info. Pewter report on the other hand does present new info. The Friday srfab5 is must read. Or come here and read the highlights the next day. Either way…we need both sites as Bucs fans.