King: Bortles + Tedford = Bucs Fit
January 17th, 2014
What the will the Bucs do at quarterback next season?
Surely Lovie Smith won’t go all-in with Mike Glennon when players return to One Buc Palace in 11 weeks. Somebody with as much or more promise than Glennon will join the roster this spring.Heck, Joe wouldn’t be surprised to see five or six quarterbacks in training camp, a throwback to Chucky’s Tampa days, with the new regime looking for the best three they can find.
NBC Sports Network draft guru Shaun King, the former Bucs and Cardinals quarterback, likes how University of Central Florida quarterback Blake Bortles might fit with Tampa Bay with the seventh overall pick in the 2014 draft.
King says Bortles needs a season to ride the pine and learn but Bucs fans could be confident he’d get the proper schooling under the new Bucs offensive coordinator Jeff Tedford. In the college ranks, Tedford, a former QB himself, who produced six former first-round quarterbacks, including Aaron Rodgers and Trent Dilfer. King, one of three QBs to lead the Bucs to the NFC title game, offered his take this morning on the Ron and Ian show on WDAE-AM 620.
Despite the NFL.com and BSPN reports of Teddy Bridgewater’s stock dropping (might he fall to the Bucs?), King says Bridgewater is hands down the best QB in the draft, and he has a leg up on his peers because he played in a pro-style offense at Louisville. Yes, King also is high on Johnny Football, saying weeks ago that he “is Russell Wilson.”
Joe is intrigued by King’s take on Bortles as it relates to Tedford. If you have a true QB guru on staff, then it’s nuts not to bring in another talented young QB. A guy like Bortles, assuming Johnny Football or Bridgewater can’t be had, might work.
Joe doesn’t know if Tedford will be a good offensive coordinator, but Joe has to trust that the guy knows QB play. If the Bucs took Bortles with Tedford’s endorsement, then Joe would be ok with that. The Bucs must do what they have to in order to improve at the position.
January 17th, 2014 at 1:01 pm
FWIW, Tony Pauline of ”S.I” likes Bortles most among the QB crop.Recent convert, however.
January 17th, 2014 at 1:01 pm
I’d love to have Bortles sit for a season then come out strong in 2015
January 17th, 2014 at 1:03 pm
I like this guy bortles.
January 17th, 2014 at 1:03 pm
When I saw the headline I thought it was Peter King. Not irrelevant Shaun King
January 17th, 2014 at 1:05 pm
you don’t use the #7 pick for a guy to ride the pine for a year.
sorry. aint happnin!
January 17th, 2014 at 1:07 pm
hmmm… a lot of pressure on this pick. We have to find a stud. Needs to be a qb, tackle , or pass rusher. There will be a new article every week on the flavor of the month at the qb postion. Will be interesting. This is going to be a long 5 months.
January 17th, 2014 at 1:12 pm
No way Bortles is around at #7. Will go in first 4 picks. Unlike Manziel, Bortles shows up in the big games, leading his team to victories over two top 10 teams this year. I know everyone will say A&M’s defense wasn’t very good, but UCF’s wasn’t all that special either.
January 17th, 2014 at 1:27 pm
lightning buc,
I like Bortles more than Manziel too, but your argument has no merit. Manziel won a ton of games with his play alone. Manziel beat Alabama two years ago and has had numerous big wins before and after.
Bortles didn’t do particularly well against South Carolina. Granted, he was under intense pressure all day and didn’t have a supporting cast to help him compete. Bortles is my #2, Manziel and Carr are tied for 3rd. Brett Smith is my number 5.
January 17th, 2014 at 1:32 pm
Honestly, I really don’t care who we pick as long as it’s the best player available.
January 17th, 2014 at 1:34 pm
Bortles is an example of a guy who should go in the third round who will be way overdrafted because of need. I think of Locker and Ponder though with the right coaching, you never know. Still, your #7 player has to play NOW.
January 17th, 2014 at 1:36 pm
Stick with the plan “King Lovie” and fix the O and D lines.
January 17th, 2014 at 1:41 pm
I’m with you Realist. On the other hand Bortles does not look like a geek, which apparently is very important to some Buc fans.
January 17th, 2014 at 1:41 pm
Matt Says:
January 17th, 2014 at 1:03 pm
When I saw the headline I thought it was Peter King. Not irrelevant Shaun King
THAT is the typical comment I see every time on facebook whenever S King opens his PIZZAHOLE. HAAA
January 17th, 2014 at 1:42 pm
Tedford’s history is one of taking average QB talent and getting them to play at a high level. Might not need to take a first round QB. Glennon might be a top QB with Tedford’s coaching. Just a thought.
January 17th, 2014 at 1:42 pm
We need A player who can create their own sacks and a stud OT for the future. A Top 10 OT.
January 17th, 2014 at 1:44 pm
7th overall pick goes to Sammy Watkins or the best D/O-lineman available.
January 17th, 2014 at 1:44 pm
We can’t go on being the worse Offense in the NFL again, with the weapons we have a QB will solve that issue. But the O-line needs some attention, IMO draft an OT if a QB is out of the race, however the QB is a top option.
January 17th, 2014 at 1:45 pm
Unless we trade up to the #2 spot non of these QBs will be left on the board.
The Rams will leverage some kind of trade between Oak and Cle and even possibly Jags right behind them for one of these QBs.
Oak & Jac will be drafting a QB with their picks this year the question comes to if Hou and or Cle will draf one. Then again there is the #2 spot the Rams currently hold and likely someone will trade up to snag one of these Qs there. Arz possibly could make a move or Min.
With Lovey I fully believe we sit tight at 7 and take OL, DL or a pass rusher. The only exception to this could be Ebron. The kid is a freak and the league is quickly coveting top TE prospects.
January 17th, 2014 at 1:46 pm
I believe that if Bortles is given a year to sit, learn the game, and fix some mechanics, he’ll be the best QB from this draft three years from now. That being said, he would’ve been picked in the late first or early second round if Mariotta and Hundley were coming out; so I don’t understand why he suddenly has to be taken in the top five or ten picks. If the Bucs take him at #7, that’s fine, but I’d much rather them take another position and wait for a mid-round QB this year to pair with Glennon for competition.
January 17th, 2014 at 1:48 pm
“The Bucs must do what they have to in order to improve at the position.”
Joe, Bortles wouldn’t be an improvement. We would still have the 4th best Qb in the division. Bortles is the next Jake Locker, per your buddy Duemig. How about this, instead of using our #7 pick on a Qb, why not use it for other areas of need which are much greater? Even Bortles will struggle If we don’t have an O line to protect him or a reliable WR to throw to.
January 17th, 2014 at 1:48 pm
Watch Bortles’ mechanics – footwork, throwing motion, etc. Physically, this guy is Josh Freeman 2.0. He is not ready to play right away. Also, watch his tape. Watch for how many of his scores came on long catch and runs by his receivers. How this guy is jumping Manziel and Bridgewater so fast, it makes no sense.
January 17th, 2014 at 1:50 pm
I’ve been beating the drum on this kid for a while!
January 17th, 2014 at 1:50 pm
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH this is the funniest thing i have seen. Blake bortles is hot garbage man. I’m a UCF student I live across campus and have been to every UCF game and have followed UCF since I’ve attented. You don’t go 7th overall throwing 22 TDs in conference USA. This guy is going to be the next Blaine gabbert/jake locker/Christian ponder if you take this guy top 10. All his TDs are the players making YAC or incredible catches. UCF played two ranked teams all year. Neither were even good at that. South Carolina fell off, and Louisville proved to be over rated. If the bucs draft this clown 7th overall it will be the worse decision ever. Period. UCF games don’t even sell out. Especially to draft someone 7th overall to ride the bench is another funny joke too.. 7th overall picks aren’t ment to ride the bench. If you’re gonna ride with Glennon all year then take the BPA and if he sucks then hey we can move up a couple spots next year, trade every draft pick we have too and get Winston. I feel like that’s what our owners are planning on doing if Glennon doesn’t work out.
January 17th, 2014 at 1:51 pm
Crap!!!
Here I was hoping Blake Bortles would be chosen for the Bucs this year, but if King likes him I have to think it thru all over again!!!!
Seriously though, I’ve been saying that my wish list stacks in this order:
ROUND ONE
Clowney
Bortles
Manziel
Matthews
Robinson
Mosely
If we luck out and one of those guys are there, we have to take him. If Clowney impossibly falls to us, we cannot pass on him, regardless of the need at QB. Him combined with GMC, Spence, Clayborn and Foster would maybe give us the best dline in the game.
Bortles, I think, will end up the best QB in this draft. I don’t even like Bridgewater to be honest…not that he would fall to us.
People say this guy or that guy will not fall to us, but draft day is mostly unpredictable. For example, the 2nd pick might be Matthews instead of Clowney. Then there could be a run on QBs and Clowney could fall to the Bucs.
Or, a rumor could cause a guy to fall to us.
Mosely is a little bit of a reach, but he is much like Lavante David. If he can move to the outside we would have a killer LB Corps. If he cannot, then Foster can move outside.
January 17th, 2014 at 1:53 pm
Seventh overall picks CAN ride the pine the first year. To say they cannot is ignorant. It’s happened many times.
January 17th, 2014 at 1:55 pm
@Dylan How do you attend every game and know so much about the UCF football program when you don’t even know what conference they are in? They are in the AAC not the Conference USA.
January 17th, 2014 at 1:57 pm
RCH …HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
January 17th, 2014 at 2:01 pm
Not picking a project QB at #7
January 17th, 2014 at 2:04 pm
If I didn’t know better, I could almost get the impression from this article, that the Author doesn’t think” Winnin’ Glennon” is the future!”
They’ll be a “piling on” penalty soon, when the Glennon mob hears about this “heracy”.
They’ll be madder than a bunch of hornets!
It’s going to be a fun 5 months.
January 17th, 2014 at 2:07 pm
To trumpet the Realist and others:
FIX THE LINES
January 17th, 2014 at 2:07 pm
Sounds like Lovie is using King as a “Judas Goat” to throw off the scent of where the Bucs might go in the draft.
Kiper didn’t even list Bortles in the top 10.
If Bridgewater indeed falls to the #7 pick, it’s a no brainer, unless of course, Clowney is still available.
January 17th, 2014 at 2:09 pm
Have to consider value and need. I disagree that QB is the highest priority. One could argue that OL and DE are higher priorities. In the defense they want to play, they need a MLB who can drop in coverage, so that might be a greater need than QB. More CBs might be a bigger need. Speed at WR might also be a bigger need. Plus, we have fewer picks in the draft this year, having given up the 3rd to acquire Revis, and I believe the sixth rounder for Carimi.
January 17th, 2014 at 2:14 pm
If you look at where the Bucs are right now…I don’t see how you can justify picking a QB to “ride the pine” for a year. With pick #7 you get a stud offensive lineman, a serious pass rusher or a top flight WR or TE to help them win NOW! Mike Glennon may not be Peyton Manning or Tom Brady, but with the talent that is already on this team all we need is Brad Johnson!
January 17th, 2014 at 2:14 pm
Shaun King, one of two Buc quarterbacks to lose the NFC Championship game.
January 17th, 2014 at 2:16 pm
Brandon,
What big win did Manziel have this year? Duke?
January 17th, 2014 at 2:17 pm
Dylan sounds more like a spiteful USF Bull. Don’t worry, we will be owning yall for the next few years.
Bortles is one of those guys that will excel if there is already a solid foundation for an offense already in place. He had a solid o line, great running back in Storm Johnson, and receivers that made some of Bortles’ less great throws look fantastic. UCF allegiance aside, I do not think Tampa would be the best environment for Bortles to be thrown into a starting role. Lots of holes and as great as it would be for Bortles to work out some of the kinks of his game on the bench thr first year, that it not the course of action for a seventh round pick. Check out his girlfriend. Sexy mama
January 17th, 2014 at 2:23 pm
I know the draft geeks love Bortles all of a sudden, but is playing at UCF in the Big East/Whatever its called Conference really a way judge if a player is ready for NFL games?
Skip Johnny “Ryan Leaf Jr” Beerpong, even if he’s there in the first round, get a better and more stable player with the 7th pick. Then pick up Tahj Boyd, who has really similar stats and less drama, in the 3rd and let him and Glennon fight it out.
January 17th, 2014 at 2:25 pm
This whole Johnny Football being compared to Russell Wilson is completely inaccurate by the way. Manziel is a much more aggressive runner and takes hits willingly. He needs to take the lesson of RGIII into account and learn to tuck and slide
January 17th, 2014 at 2:26 pm
Aaron Rogers sat and sat and sat some more.
January 17th, 2014 at 2:27 pm
Lemmings! Joe throws out some name you have never considered, even though it comes from shawn king you guys jump on the bandwaggon! Disturbing! Hey, Joe is doing what makes him money.. Stirring the pot, but heck… you guys go for it every time! Go BUCS! Ps. assume he did get picked and “ride the pine for a year” are we assuming that Glennon will not have a Great season in his second year and with this new QB whisperer? All you Bandwagoneers will jump back on the Glennon wagon, and complain that we wasted a first round pic when we had a Great young QB in Glennon! LOL!
January 17th, 2014 at 2:29 pm
Sammy Watkins at #7 (we need weapons for any QB to be good)….TE Austin Seferian-Jenkins in the 2nd round…..A few O-linemen and a vet QB in FA…and lets see what Glennon has. Worse case we are in the sweepstakes for Winston next draft.
January 17th, 2014 at 2:39 pm
Idaho….many fans on these boards have mentioned Bortles many times prior to this article. Some even before the season was over. So I don’t get where the lemmings is coming from.
January 17th, 2014 at 2:40 pm
If Khalil Mack is the ext Von Miller, then I say take him. Love can pick up Jared Allen and Julius Peppers in FA. Mack, if that talented, could be the yang to LVD’s yin.
January 17th, 2014 at 2:45 pm
@RCH Hahahaha I was thinking the same thing man. This Dylan guy goes to UCF, supposedly “all the games”, and doesn’t even know what conference his team plays in. Lmao what a joke. I’m a UCF alum, been watching every game Bortles has played, just went the fiesta bowl to watch the beat down. I don’t think Bortles is the top Qb prospect in this draft. But the kid plays hard, he brought UCF back when they were down by multiple scores in several different games this year- including against bridgewater’s Louisville.
I do agree he may not be 1st round talent right now, but the kid has done nothing but steadily improve over the last 3 years in college. And I think in 2-3 years he will be a stud in the NFL. If only we could somehow get him and Watkins…. A guy can dream right?
January 17th, 2014 at 2:46 pm
@BuccaneerBonzai Says:
“Crap!!!
Here I was hoping Blake Bortles would be chosen for the Bucs this year, but if King likes him I have to think it thru all over again!!!!”
LOL, So true.
But I like that plan. Makes next year kind of sucky, but if it would mean the Bucs FINALLY getting a long term franchise QB, I would be elated.
Have to point out this follows my plan almost exactly. If both Glennon and Bortles look awesome, one gets traded for a kings ransom and we make out like bandits. If only one does, we still get our franchise QB and no one can cry about that.
and TBBF will be happy we did not trade away picks to move up (although, I would be ok to do that to get one of these three, lol)
January 17th, 2014 at 2:50 pm
I’m a Glennon Fan and would be Thrilled with Clowney or Sammy Watkins at 7 but I’m thinking more and more that Joe’s Darkhorse QB will be Chosen by the Bucs in the First Round… Jimmy Garoppolo… He’s gaining steam as far as being noticed, having just been added to the Senior Bowl Roster, where I think he will Build on what he shows at the East/West Shrine Game. It’s hard to Argue with his Skill Set & Production in College. I think the Bucs take him at the 7th spot. Just an Opinion of course.
January 17th, 2014 at 2:54 pm
sammy watkins if he is gone best D or Olineman imo
January 17th, 2014 at 2:54 pm
shaun burger king thinks he is ron jaworski giving us analyst all the time in qbs . i wouldnt listen to the guy, who told the bucs to give freeman a 5 year contract before the season. if he was our gm we will be f###ed. on another note the bucs should just do whatever it takes to get watkins. the guy is a stud imo.
January 17th, 2014 at 2:55 pm
We will see who is there, free agency should show us a lot about what we may do in the draft imo. I don’t think any of the top 3 QB’s will be there at 7 anyway depending on their combine measurable, etc.
@Z-Bucs –
Then pick up Tahj Boyd, who has really similar stats and less drama, in the 3rd and let him and Glennon fight it out. I really disagree with that pick, he threw 5 picks against S Carolina this year and never beat their biggest rival when he was there. I think we get a veteran QB to compete unless something falls to us at 7.
January 17th, 2014 at 2:56 pm
Is Tedford the QB coach?
January 17th, 2014 at 2:56 pm
need weapons so bad
January 17th, 2014 at 2:58 pm
“Shaun King, one of two Buc Quarterbacks that lost a NFC Championship Game when his defense gave up 11 or fewer points.”
January 17th, 2014 at 2:59 pm
We can ill afford to draft a Locker or Gabbert with the #7 pick. I would rather take Garropollo in the 2nd or 3rd rd, we need that #7 pick to play this year if we want to progress with the good players we already have. IMO
January 17th, 2014 at 3:00 pm
All, well mostly all of the suggestions are good ones, but I’m going to throw you a curve. I listened to Lovie’s presser, then I listened to Frazier the other day and I’m beginning to hear a theme.
We have lots of needs, but I think they’re going to fix the defense first. Listen to Lovie about how many games he thinks you can win with defense alone and then listen carefully to what Frazier said about the pieces they have in place and the pieces that are needed. He needs a pass rusher, a 3tech which they have, a Will which they have, A Mike to run the defense, and a tackling CB.
Frazier mentioned and praised both McCoy and David, but never mentioned Foster as being a part that was already in place. Among other things said or not commented on, I came away with this possible scenario.
They will target Jared Allen as a pass rusher and Charles Tillman as a tackling CB in FA. They have maybe the best 3tech and Will in the league. What’s missing? Mike linebacker, the centerpiece of Lovie’s pass defenses.
Which leads me to this conclusion. Do not be surprised that absent Clowney and the best OT in the draft, the Bucs trade down a couple of places and take CJ Moseley as ILB. I’ve seen this pick in a few mocks at scoffed at the idea. But after hearing both press conferences, I wouldn’t count it out!
January 17th, 2014 at 3:01 pm
I think Bortles will suck in the NFL. I don’t claim to know, but just got that feeling watching some of his play.
January 17th, 2014 at 3:07 pm
rogers sat in GB on a team that was stacked, and had Brett Favre
some teams might have that luxury.
we only have 5 picks and no 3rd.
I see us taking players who can be on the field next year with the 1st 2 picks. too many holes not to do that.
get ready, we will be picking up a couple back up QB’s n FA and have a handful compete to back up Glennon. Lovie is a defensive guy, and I guess he would be comfortable with a serviceable QB who plays smart, protects the ball and is accurate. We need linemen and a better scheme for quick release to minimize the sacks.
January 17th, 2014 at 3:08 pm
@Lev – that’s like asking if Lovie is the dc. That’s not their job but they’re going to make sure the job is done the right way
January 17th, 2014 at 3:10 pm
1987 – Aaron Rodgers sat behind Brett favre. We don’t have Brett favre
January 17th, 2014 at 3:17 pm
Watched the bortles highlights from this year and saw none of the flash or wow factor that you guys are dying for. Lots of short passes with great runs by the receivers afterward and a few deep balls that we meet with some great catches by the receivers. What I see is nothing that glennon doesn’t already have. Keep glennon and get a wr to get those yac yards
January 17th, 2014 at 3:25 pm
NOOOOOOO……
January 17th, 2014 at 3:27 pm
“NBC Sports Network draft guru Shaun King”
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH….. draft guru…lolololololol… I can’t breathe i’m laughing so hard.
If you look at Shaun’s record on the draft with his work for NBC last year, you wouldn’t be laughing. It was very strong. –Joe
January 17th, 2014 at 3:39 pm
I think we as fans have to remember that the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, while finishing a pitiful 4-12, will not be picking in the top 3, nor will they be picking in the top 5. The Bucs are picking 7th in the draft. There are at least three QB needy teams picking in front of the Bucs, which means that it’s unlikely that Bridgewater, Johnny Football or Blake Bortles will be available. It’s a bummer and everything is still up in the air, but let’s be realistic here; the Bucs are likely going into camp with Glennon and either a rookie QB picked between the 2-5 round and/or a veteran backup.
January 17th, 2014 at 3:41 pm
@Macabee
I wouldn’t be shock to see them go defense either.
January 17th, 2014 at 3:44 pm
@RCH my bad I actually go to college for over a year. When I first attended they were conference USA. They merged last year with big easy last year. Point being there all garbage conferences.
January 17th, 2014 at 3:56 pm
Patrick….people were indicating that first rounders don’t ride the pine. When that’s far from true is all I was getting at.
January 17th, 2014 at 3:56 pm
I’ll take Bridgewater jfb or bottles but rather have clowney
January 17th, 2014 at 4:15 pm
@dylan – We’re all glad that you “go to college over a year” and that you think UCF merged with the “big easy”. Maybe a little more education is in need?
January 17th, 2014 at 4:26 pm
“When asked about the potential for Glennon to be the Bucs’ starter moving forward, Tedford said it was “premature” to say that, and that things would become clearer once he got a chance to sit down with Lovie Smith and whoever the GM will be to discuss the roster.” – A radio interview with Tedford
I’d say drafting a QB in the first round is fair game 😀
January 17th, 2014 at 4:26 pm
Smart thing to do is take Clowney or Mathews in the first. If need be trade back up in the first to get the kid from eastern Il. I’m still high on Connor Shaw from South Carolina, think he has a lot of untapped potential and skill. Got an invite to the combine and I think his stock will rise afterwards. Either way go BUCS!
January 17th, 2014 at 4:27 pm
Would love to see this kid come to Tampa. But it would only be in the situation that we already had a stud QB, and this was the guy, like Rodgers or Young, that needs to hold a clip board for a few years behind a future Hall of Fame(r), and then start once the old vet is put to pasture. Unfortunately, we are not in that position. Guy Jerry Jones would love to have for another year or two until he pulls the plug on Romo. Think today he is equal to Glennon, but not worth a first round pick, because then you set him up for failure. The “win now” mentality is asking too much for any rookie QB. Yes, there are a few that have stepped right in, but they had the right supporting cast. This kid has game, and one of those “give me the ball for the last shot” gamers. But we’re not ready for that if Peyton started all 16 games for us next year. Perfect scenario would be that we could acquire a decent veteran QB and strengthen our weak spots, while Bortles learns. Trade Glennon off to be a nice back up somewhere. Be competitive with a couple 8-8 type seasons, and groom our future with 2017 being the year we start making serious deep playoff runs. That means Nicks, Penn, Jackson, and Revis aren’t part of the equation. The idea that we are going to make an impact in the NFC South overnight is outright silly. Yes, the South never repeats champ back to back years. Carolina and NO aren’t about to deflate, and Atlanta will rebound. Question is how much patience will mostly fans, and ownership, give Lovie to get some wind in the sails and point us in the right direction.
January 17th, 2014 at 4:40 pm
If Tedford is a QB guru, then one should be taken in later rounds to develop – Absolutely NO DEVELOPMENTAL PROSPECTS with 7 pick!!! Bortals release is Not good, BTW…
If the Bucs Roster is as it is right now going into the Draft, the need serious help getting to the qb…My guess would be Mack or Barr (realistically) Mack @ pick 7…
If the Buc’s get a pass rusher or two through FA, their focus for pick 7 should be WR and OT – Watkins (won’t be there – thanks to Ram’s or Raiders) BEST BET – OT Jake Mathews…he just might slip down to us as the Auburn OT Robinson is now considered #1 OT and might be Atlanta’s choose at 6 just before us.
That TE Ebron, could be a long shot possibly though might be a bit high…a trade down perhaps?
January 17th, 2014 at 4:46 pm
@Dylan I have watched every single game UCF has played this season and in my opinion I think Bortles has a nice upside to him with the qualities that you look for in a QB, such as, escapability, works great under pressure, big arm, and leadership skills. I get the argument how people like to bash the AAC because of there schedule being weak compared to other conferences. But answer me this if the AAC is such a garbage conference than explain to me why the AAC is 9-7 in BCS Bowl games? The only other conferences with a better BCS Bowl game record is the SEC and the PAC 12.
January 17th, 2014 at 5:05 pm
A 9-7 BCS record. That includes wins in five of the past eight BCS games. Only the SEC and Pac-12 have higher winning percentages. The Big Ten? 12-14. The ACC? 3-13. The Big 12? 9-10
http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation/post/_/id/75267/big-east-gets-its-bcs-moment
That article goes up to 2013 which didn’t include UCFs BCS Bowl game this year.
January 17th, 2014 at 5:53 pm
d-money Says:
January 17th, 2014 at 3:27 pm
“NBC Sports Network draft guru Shaun King”
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH….. draft guru…lolololololol… I can’t breathe i’m laughing so hard.
If you look at Shaun’s record on the draft with his work for NBC last year, you wouldn’t be laughing. It was very strong. –Joe
Agree joe. So many people laugh at king. But he said he didn’t like the goldson and nicks signings the past two years. He was right. He also thought none of the qbs were worthy of a first rd pick. None of them played like it.
King has been right on a number of things over the past few years and I like his explanations and assessments. Bucs fans ragged on him when he didn’t believe we were a playoff team this year. 4-12. He knows more than us couch fans want to believe.
January 17th, 2014 at 6:03 pm
Who knows? Maybe Tedford likes Jordan Rodgers as a developmental QB. I just fail to see how QB is the biggest need on this team when we wanna play a version of Tampa 2, meaning we need pass-rushing DEs and a MLB who can run and CBs that play smart and tackle, not to mention OGs who can stay healthy and block worth a crap. There are too many holes on the team to draft a QB in round 1 unless it’s a “can’t miss” type of player. Glennon can win games if the D plays well and the O-line blocks. Jeez, I mean the dude did pretty well for a rookie QB under very adverse circumstances.
I also think it’s far too early to be making draft predictions.
January 17th, 2014 at 6:12 pm
I hope the Bucs pass on Bortles. Glennon is better right now. As far as UCF beating up on USF for years to come, that aint going to happen. UCF barely squeaked by the Bulls recently at UCF, despite a woeful USF offense on the season. A good rivalry for sure, the Bulls are down now, I expect rapid improvement, UCF wont dominate USF.
January 17th, 2014 at 8:08 pm
shaun king has taken alot of abuse from bucs fans (including me) since the schiano hire becuase he’s been saying things many fans don’t like to hear. turns out he was right on many fronts. i have no idea of his track record with other teams, since the only reason i know he’s a member of the media is by way of JBF blog posts.
on a side note, thanks Joe for not including Shaun King’s Jabba the Hutt headshot in this post like you do most times you discuss one of his takes
January 17th, 2014 at 10:19 pm
Shaun King rubs many fans the wrong way. He’s said some good things and some stupid things over the past several years. He’s thrown a few people under the bus, but it’s not like I’ve been keeping track. When he was our QB I had no faith in him and everyone I knew felt the same way. You can look at the wins and losses and stats and they paint one picture, but actually watching him play painted another. That’s probably it – listening to him talk about which players are good and which are not just seems wrong. I’d much rather listen to a great player talk… like Barber, Brooks, or Lynch.
January 17th, 2014 at 10:37 pm
If they cant get exactly the right guy I would LOVd for them to move back a couple spots, accumulate more picks and fill out their draft properly. If their scouts are good they should have no problem selecting players that will be useful and potentially start.
I hate that they moved the draft though. I love that part of football, but I feel like they are robbing the rookies of valuable time they normally would have already had. To me- it looks like the complaining we all saw and did ourselves over tackling the last year or so due to the no contact drills in practice is about to get worse.
Soon we will have to sit back and listen to the talking heads say things like, “Well, the rookies didn’t have enough time to learn the system and properly transition to the pro game.”
January 18th, 2014 at 12:13 am
Bortes owned Teddybustwater in his own house….
January 18th, 2014 at 2:56 am
^^^^
never a truer statement has been said
lol, because the qb’s only play against each other….
January 18th, 2014 at 10:42 pm
I think Lovie goes defense even if we trade down.