Jeff Tedford’s Offense
January 3rd, 2014
His offenses weren’t NFL compatible
Joe remembers watching some of new Bucs offensive coordinator Jeff Tedford’s offenses years ago, specifically when Cal was relevant and one of the better (then) PAC-10 programs. Joe recalls he ran sort of an early version of a spread offense.
In later years, Cal fell off the map and Tedford lost his head coaching gig a year ago. Joe’s research leads him to believe Tedford was delegating too much authority to assistants (play-calling, recruiting) and that is why Cal dropped — and why Cal dropped Tedford.
Joe has read that Tedford’s offenses were complex. Not sure Joe buys that. There is only so much a college kid can absorb in a handful of years where his football time is strictly regulated by NCAA rules. In the NFL, that’s not an issue.
For example, when Bill Callahan took Chucky’s offense to Nebraska, it was an abject failure. Joe has been told that Chucky’s offense was so complex, it often took an NFL starting quarterback a couple of seasons if not three to fully absorb it. You can’t expect a college kid to learn that offense in (sometimes) a shorter period of time.
This is why Chucky’s best quarterbacks were NFL veterans. Their learning curve was much shorter.
Tedford’s offense worked. In college. When he had the right recruits. But his list of former students is a frightening blend of busts and horrific NFL quarterbacks that should sober excited Bucs fans’ behavior.
Trent Dilfer
David Carr
Akili Smith
Joey Harrington
Kyle Boller
Aaron Rodgers
A.J. Feeley
That’s just a horrific list, like a string of quarterbacks coming from some bad football-related Friday-The-13th-like flick. The fact the Bucs hired an offensive coordinator who boasts Kyle Boller as a prized pupil makes Joe want to grab a bottle of Stoli and begin chugging.
Joe will share a story he heard Super Bowl-winning quarterback and CBS NFL analyst Phil Simms tell about Aaron Rodgers to Adam Schein on SiriusXM NFL Radio earlier this year. Joe did not transcribe the conversation, so this is paraphrasing.
Simms talked about going to Packers training camp when Rodgers was a rookie. He said Rodgers’ terrible mechanics and weak arm shocked him and Simms couldn’t believe he was a first round draft pick and was certain Rodgers would have no successful future in the NFL.
The next season, Simms again went to Packers training camp and he was studying Brett Farve and Simms said out of the corner of his eye, he saw a quarterback race out of the pocket and fire a bullet to a receiver well downfield, hitting him on the numbers. Simms let out an audible “Wow!”
He turned to a Packers staffer and asked who that was. When he learned it was Rodgers, he couldn’t believe it. Simms said it was as if he was watching a totally different player who had dramatically smoothed out his mechanics and developed arm strength within a year.
As with many things, it’s not all black and white with Tedford. To this day, Joe thinks Harrington was a drop-back, pocket passer, and when Detroit drafted him, Steve Mariucci tried to force him to be a west coast quarterback and that ruined Harrington for good.
Joe had many of the same reservations about Akili Smith as he had for Josh Freeman: a one-hit, one-year wonder that couldn’t put his team on his back.
Joe thought that Carr was a good quarterback, but he had zero line playing in front of him and he simply got beaten to such a pulp, that Carr turned gun shy and mentally never recovered.
From what Joe remembers from watching Tedford years ago and studying Tedford recently, Joe believes Tedford simply ran a gimmick offense that was laced with just enough spread option that it never translated to NFL offenses at the time. Nobody was running any form of a spread back then.
Joe remembers a couple of months ago talking to someone who made his living with the NFL draft about quarterbacks (the same guy told Joe Johnny Football was the “real deal.”) Joe asked this man about Marcus Mariota, Oregon’s gifted quarterback. The same source thought he had the tools to be a solid pick. When Joe asked him if the Oregon offense was just a gimmick offense that wouldn’t translate into the NFL, thus Mariota would implode, Joe’s source said, “Well, yeah, there’s that.”
Until Joe can do further research, it seems that Tedford’s offense just didn’t translate into the NFL offenses of the day. His college quarterbacks needed to be deprogrammed and reprogrammed and that didn’t always work. There are many coaches who ran exotic offenses who had highly-drafted quarterbacks who never panned out. Steve Spurrier and Hal Mumme spring to mind, so it wasn’t just Tedford whose quarterbacks rarely mastered the NFL.
Just because a quarterback shines in a specific offense doesn’t mean he can equal that success running another type of offense.
January 3rd, 2014 at 8:08 am
Fire Tedford!
January 3rd, 2014 at 8:18 am
Exactly. Everybody points out how many of his qb’s were busts. Well, nobody wants to say that how were those QB’s first round picks? Tedford made them play better than they really were. I hope he can do the exactly same thing here.
January 3rd, 2014 at 8:20 am
I think this article is missing the fact that all of his college quarterbacks made the nfl. He had to be doing something right.
January 3rd, 2014 at 8:24 am
Let’s get him out of town and not give him a chance to screw it up. Pretty sure Lovie’s an idiot and doesn’t know how to put a staff together. Let’s blow this thing up and start over again.
January 3rd, 2014 at 8:26 am
Am I the only one getting flash backs to the Jeff Jagodzinski experience?
January 3rd, 2014 at 8:33 am
Lol. The NFL has changed and offenses are more wide open than in years past. Regardless we have a strong enough HC that we can go by without a top of the line QB as long as the running game works as expected… the future is bright…
January 3rd, 2014 at 8:42 am
Tedford needs this speed WR that will be playing for Missouri tonight
L’Damian Washington
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January 3rd, 2014 at 8:43 am
The ending to your story doesn’t fill me with warm fuzzies on this chilly Tampabay morning. I sure hope he isn’t planning to come here and run a gimmick offense.
January 3rd, 2014 at 8:47 am
The spread is alot more ready for the NFL than when Spurrier was in the league. That is a horrific list of quarterbacks but the converse theory is that Tedford made lemonade out of lemons. In other words he got terrific production out of quarterbacks with limited skills. That sounds right up Glennons alley if you ask me LOL….
January 3rd, 2014 at 8:52 am
@Nick2 – Thank you. Seems like any rational person would see that he took players that may not be that great and made them better. That’s how good coaching works. When all of the players we had on the roster this year left and went somewhere else and did great everyone said it was because Schiano couldn’t coach them properly. Tedford coached those kids into looking like superstars. First round level talent. Really they were mediocre at best. I’d love to have Tedford paint Glennon to look like Marino even if we’ve seen that he may not be that in reality
January 3rd, 2014 at 8:55 am
Wait a minute
The fact that we recognize those names on that list IS relevant.
They were all highly touted COLLEGE Quarterbacks coming INTO the NFL.
The fact that some failed in the NFL should not be seen a direct reflection on Tedford but more a sign that they were productive under his guidance.
January 3rd, 2014 at 8:55 am
I don’t know what to make of Tedford. He was able to put QBs in a position to succeed at the college level. How does that translate to him being able to run an offense at the pro level? Not sure. Gimmicky offenses don’t usually work in the NFL. It comes down to getting the right QB to run an offense that can consistently produce.
January 3rd, 2014 at 9:00 am
Guys lets give this guy a chance. I mean he hasn’t even been introduced and already some of you are hating. I am very optimistic and excited about having Lovie back in Tampa Bay, his nfl coaching roots. I’m actually looking forward to the upcoming season for the first time in a while, and that’s BIG coming from me considering I’ve been one of the most negative Buc fans as of late. I can’t wait for the off season to really get roaring, getting the rest of the staff assembled, free agency, the draft, etc. GO BUCS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 3rd, 2014 at 9:01 am
The test will be whether Tedford can be a good coach and not just a system guy- and design plays that fit the personnel tht he has on his roster. Kind of like Tomlin adapted his defense from 4-3 to run the 3-4, or John Fox and his staff totally changed theirs to maximize Tebow– or even what Chip Kelly did this year to get the most from Foles. If Tedford is not wedded to a system then we’re good- if he’s not (or if he’s a Jagodzinski again and can’t call plays) then we’re toast. On that note- last year everyone said Foles wasn’t going to be good enough to start. Just like Glennon. With the right coach who can get the most from his players he’ll be fine –not brilliant, but serviceable enough to win.
January 3rd, 2014 at 9:11 am
I say give the guy a chance! you can’t get worse than 32nd !! GO BUCS!!!!!!
January 3rd, 2014 at 9:14 am
That’s exactly the point you have seemed to glaze over Joe. This guy was able to get every drop out of his malequipped QB’s making them all 1rst round bust or hero’s. We’ll have to wait and see how it pans out. The NFL usually, until someone is not to be trusted, has position coaches coaching there position and coordinators running the lot and the coach managing the complete scheme. We’ll be able to tell relatively quick what kind of coach we have in Tedford. Unless he gets a new QB in the draft, we have already seen the tools that Glennon is working with. Now the big question is can Tedford get the best out of Glennon?
January 3rd, 2014 at 9:15 am
Or you can look at it like this:
Tedford did a great job getting good play out of that cast of characters. Do you really think it was because of Tedfrd most of them stunk in the NFL? Or was it because they were never really that good at all and Tedford maximized their potential?
January 3rd, 2014 at 9:18 am
Geez…..quit over-thinking this sh!t already!
Think about what a mess we just got rid of and be happy.
All I really need to hear about Tedford is:
Can he make adjustments during a game and not be predictable?
BTW
Lovie is a great hire and I applaud the Glazers for moving quickly.
We now have a proven professional HC.
Go Bucs!
January 3rd, 2014 at 9:18 am
We have a guy who was paid to develop COLLEGE quarterbacks to compete at the COLLEGE level and he was phenomenally successful doing so. He took kids with mediocre talent and made them all overachievers who became dominant at their respective level of football.
Wait, isn’t that exactly what we want?
January 3rd, 2014 at 9:20 am
I’m confused. I thought I was on JoeBucsFan.com but as I’m reading the comments it seems like there are a lot of reasonable, level headed people in here…… I don’t know what’s going on here but I don’t trust it.
January 3rd, 2014 at 9:21 am
If you look at it positively, he took pedestrian or less than pedestrian quarterbacks and made them great. When they left his system, they stunk. That would be the exact opposite of the Buc quarterback experience over the history of this franchise. Typically we hold quarterbacks back from their potential, then they move on and flourish (a trend that will likely not apply to Josh Freeman). I like it.
January 3rd, 2014 at 9:23 am
@pewterpirate99 – Well said! Lovie hooked his wagon to Tedford before he was even offered a head coaching gig for a reason and I’m sure there is a plan already in place for his future offence that we know nothing about. If you feel good about signing Lovie (which most fans seem to), lets trust him to build his coaching staff and wait to see the results. As for me . . . I CAN’T WAIT!! GO BUCS!!
January 3rd, 2014 at 9:34 am
@pewterpirate99: Exactly, agree 100% Let´s see some legitimate Football this season. Bucs Football will be very exciting again – i think thats for sure (hopefully there won´t be too many overblown expectations from Bucs-fans; just give Lovie his time and enjoy!!)
GoBucs
January 3rd, 2014 at 9:35 am
Z-Bucfan, if I remember right, one of the main complaints about Jeff Jags was his very small playbook. All I keep hearing about Tedford is that his playbook is voluminous.
January 3rd, 2014 at 9:38 am
As to all Tedford-QB´s theory´s: Remember a Offense isn´t QB alone. Maybe the talent level around them was so high.. (and not just Offense, there is a lot you got to consider)
January 3rd, 2014 at 9:45 am
Here we go. Already the complainers and negative crap is starting before the new coaching staff is even in place. All this makes me wonder why anyone would want to come to Tampa to coach.
January 3rd, 2014 at 9:49 am
interesting… this is a weird hire on alot of levels
January 3rd, 2014 at 9:52 am
Lovie had his choice of many OCs and this is his choice….we can trust it until it fails or be skeptical until it succeeds.
Look at it this way….How many college QBs did Sully develop?
Most on JBF thought we would lose him to a HC job last year.
The bottom line is the proof is in the pudding….we’ll have to wait and see. The first test for Tedford is to get the Bucs’ QB situation right.
January 3rd, 2014 at 10:02 am
Can’t over see the fact his guys were first round pick and he got the most out of the QBs. From my understanding he plays to the strength of the players and that’s probably why most were 1st rd picks. Hopefully he can get the most out of Glennon.
January 3rd, 2014 at 10:08 am
When I see those names and that they were drafted in the first round it makes me think his offense had to be good to make those guys look like first round talent. Look at the patriots, their system made Matt Cassel look like Brady 2.0. When he left he wasn’t so good. Does that mean the offensive coordinator for the pats is terrible?? Besides, any system has to be better than Sullivan’s run, run, pass, punt – system.
January 3rd, 2014 at 10:13 am
Hopefully, I won’t have to change my name again to Laughing Stock III…
January 3rd, 2014 at 10:14 am
Though many commenters made this point, I was thinking it while reading the post too. And it is worth repeating:
QB’s performed very well under Tedford’s direction.
His job was to make them excellent college QB’s and he did just that. Whether his playbook or play-calling will be successful is anyone’s guess at this point. But criticizing his ability to develop QB’s seems way off-base, given how well they played while he coached them.
January 3rd, 2014 at 10:23 am
The common thread with all of the QB’s listed. All played well under Tedford. I don’t give 2 sh&t’s how they played for someone else in the NFL. The Bucs have a bunch of good players and they played awful under Schiano.
January 3rd, 2014 at 10:24 am
Joe, you didn’t mention the other players that did well in Tedford’s system. Lynch had back to back 1200 yard season, JJ Arrington ran for a school record, not to mention he got great play from wide receivers like Desean Jackson and Keenan Allen.(Aaron Rodgers, Marshawn Lynch, and Desean Jackson, scary as hell) The Pewter Report has an excellent write up of Tedford. In his later years he started to use spread concepts but in the beginning it was much more a west coast offense. My guess is the offense will look a lot like it did when Gruden was here. Glennon is actually perfect for this system from what I’m hearing. I don’t know if Glennon is the guy, but I think this is the best system for him to succeed.
Dilfer said this is a quarterback centeric scheme. It ask a lot of the quarterback to make reads at the line and it requires a very football smart quarterback. What I’m hearing from most Cal fans is that he is an NFL coach that had to work in college. His scheme is an NFL scheme.
January 3rd, 2014 at 10:25 am
Perfect candidate to be one and done. If his offense works he’ll take off for a HC job guaranteed
January 3rd, 2014 at 10:42 am
Guy has ZERO NFL experience which is not good when the head coach has a weakness when it comes to offense
January 3rd, 2014 at 10:55 am
I think judging Jeff Tedford for what those QBs did when he was not coaching them anymore iss unfair.
But I still don’t like the hire. Thing is it is done, so may as well roll with it.
By the way, how exactly are we seeing the band get back together if Smith is the only one here?
January 3rd, 2014 at 11:01 am
Joe chill out. We got the 32nd ranked offense in football. My grandma could improve that. Give the guy a chance
January 3rd, 2014 at 11:05 am
Cheer up guys, worst case scenario Tedford tanks as OC and 730 days (2 seasons) from now the Glazers will thank Lovie and his staff for their efforts while starting the HC/staff search all over again…it’s kind of how things have been for the Bucs of late. Perhaps we may even be able to get the ‘link to the glory days’ guy we should have at the very least interviewed (Jay Gruden)?
January 3rd, 2014 at 11:09 am
Not sticking up for the last coach, because I’m happy with the Lovie hire. But if Lovie does not get it turned around in 2 years time .Say the Bucs go 5-11 next year and 4-12 the year after that. How many of you are going to want to run him out of town too?
January 3rd, 2014 at 11:11 am
If Tedford didn’t coach his college QB’s while they were pros then what’s the relevance of their pro success or failure when their being coach by another QB coach, offensive coordinator, and playing in a different system?
January 3rd, 2014 at 11:13 am
*they’re
As far as Coach Tedford’s system and not coaching in the NFL. See Chip Kelly
January 3rd, 2014 at 11:20 am
Lovie had a year to pick this guy so he did it for a reason. Let’s just be open minded and see what he brings to the table
January 3rd, 2014 at 11:21 am
Tedford did his job as a college coach: got his players to perform to their potential and prepared them to be drafted in the NFL. He did it well. Just because NFL coaches couldn’t take over where he left off with his players isn’t his fault.
Didn’t we spend the last two years complaining about Schiano not getting the most out of his players and not using them properly? Now we get an OC who has a strong track record of getting his players to OVERachieve, as opposed to UNDERachieve, and Joe wants to go all “glass half empty” on us? Give me a break.
January 3rd, 2014 at 11:29 am
“Joe wants to go all “glass half empty” on us? Give me a break.”
FLBoyInDallas…lol I see your new to the site…
January 3rd, 2014 at 11:35 am
@Buc1987
Actually been here for like 4 years, but I didn’t expect Joe to start pissing on our parade so quickly after Lovie got hired. He usually waits a little while. He’s starting to act more like Eric, Patrick or the_buc_fantasist with this hit piece on Tedford.
Laughable comment here. There’s no hit on Tedford.–Joe
January 3rd, 2014 at 11:49 am
It’s mind boggling to watch these Buc fans – start defending a guy they’ve never heard of – especially when that coach was fired from his last job!?
People – Tedford’s not a good coach, and Glennon is not a spread QB. It doesn’t matter to me if you THINK he should be given the benefit of the doubt – especially since your only reasoning is A) he’s a Buc now, and B) he’s new – He doesn’t deserve anything.
What makes it worse, he currently has all the tools he’s ever going to get…
For me, that hire set the tone.
January 3rd, 2014 at 11:52 am
What a loser! Only two Superbowl winning QBs came from his program. Pass.
January 3rd, 2014 at 11:58 am
“Give the guy a chance”
Yeah you guys said that when Raheem was hired as HC, when it was obvious that it was a horrible hire. Quit kissing this guys ass; this was another reach.
January 3rd, 2014 at 12:02 pm
@White Tiger
“It’s mind boggling to watch these Buc fans – start defending a guy they’ve never heard of – especially when that coach was fired from his last job!?”
It’s mind boggling to watch these Buc fans – start attacking a guy they’ve never heard of – especially when every coach who is available by definition was fired from his last job!?
January 3rd, 2014 at 12:02 pm
“Only two Super Bowl winning QBs came from his program”
Yeah, Trent Dilfer was the reason the Ravens won the Super Bowl. Lol. I’ll give AR that’s it.
January 3rd, 2014 at 12:05 pm
Patrick – so you only want the Bucs to win Superbowls as long as the QB is the sole reason they win? Weak argument.
January 3rd, 2014 at 12:12 pm
Awww…are some of your widdle feewings hurt because you didn’t get the coaches you wanted? Do you need mommy to powder your bottom? Do you need a warm baba to make you feel better? Lol!
January 3rd, 2014 at 12:24 pm
“Buc Neckid Says:
January 3rd, 2014 at 8:55 am
Wait a minute
The fact that we recognize those names on that list IS relevant.
They were all highly touted COLLEGE Quarterbacks coming INTO the NFL.
The fact that some failed in the NFL should not be seen a direct reflection on Tedford but more a sign that they were productive under his guidance.”
100% correct. This article totally missed the point…
January 3rd, 2014 at 12:35 pm
As long as he doesn’t run it two times up the middle and then throw a six yard pass on third and nine I’m good!
January 3rd, 2014 at 12:36 pm
That’s not a horrific list.
Those are all first round draft picks, coming from a non powerhouse program.
That’s stunning success. You cant indict this guys offense because of how they did in the pros, he wasn’t coaching them.
Hey, two of them won Super Bowls. Who else has done that. I have to go all the way back to Ken Stabler and Joe Namath from Alabama. Plus Rodgers is a Hall of Famer.
But seven QB first rounders? Nobody has done that, the dude must know something.
oh, and he had Marshawn Lynch and Jahvid Best as running backs, who lit it up under him. Those guys are pretty good. Oh, and how about Desean Jackson, he rips us a new one every time.
January 3rd, 2014 at 12:50 pm
Joe, what’s up with the extremely annoying you tube commercials? Ruins my on-line radio exspierence
January 3rd, 2014 at 12:50 pm
Uneasy, cautious optimism here. Would have prefered Chud or Norv, but willing to give benefit of the doubt for now.
January 3rd, 2014 at 1:29 pm
Patrick Says:
January 3rd, 2014 at 12:02 pm
“Only two Super Bowl winning QBs came from his program”
Yeah, Trent Dilfer was the reason the Ravens won the Super Bowl. Lol. I’ll give AR that’s it.
That’s more than the great nick saban of Pete Carroll produced.
January 3rd, 2014 at 1:36 pm
Yeah and not to mention 99% of college QBs don’t pan out in the NFL and we’re back to square one.
Wait and see, the only thing left to do.
January 3rd, 2014 at 1:45 pm
akili smith, trent dilfer, david carr, and joey harrington went into situations where success would have been miraculous. literally miraculous. the bengals that drafted akili smith were the cleveland browns of their day – mired in awfulness and ownership\mgmt that almost seemed to aim for failure. joey harrington was one of many victims of the matt millen years in detroit. david carr led an expansion team that exposed him to one of the highest career sack rates in history. and i think we all know what trent dilfer walked into in tampa. so, that leaves feely (not a high draft pick and had a decent career as a backup), boller (a true bust on a team that needed very little from its QB), and aaron rodgers who probably would’ve gone down a similar path to the rest if he had been drafted by the browns or a similar franchise. so much of success in the NFL for QBs is the situation you are put in to grow and succeed (or not)
January 3rd, 2014 at 1:51 pm
I’m gonna laugh my a$$ off shen you guys are forced to change your tune.
Bottom line is some of you people are NEVER going to be satisfied and you will ALWAYS fine something to bitch about.
Let’s bring back Schiano, Sheridan, and Sully, so these guys can actually have a valid reason to bitch.
January 3rd, 2014 at 1:52 pm
Folks went on and on about how great Rutgers guys do in the pro ranks, after being coached by the great man. NFL ready and all. Bellichick said it. Blah blah blah.
Ray Rice and one other guy or so. Zero QB’s of any note at all.
But this guy has two Super Bowl winning QB’s, seven first round draft choices at the position, and some damn good offensive players in the NFL and somehow its not good.
Hilarious.
January 3rd, 2014 at 2:33 pm
“I’m gonna laugh my a$$ off shen you guys are forced to change your tune.”
Right back at you.
Never called plays in the NFL. Never once was an NFL coach. QBs had measurables and lots of stats but were not prepared for the NFL.
Sounds solid.
January 3rd, 2014 at 2:44 pm
Chip Kelly must stink as a play caller in the NFL.
No prior NFl experience, and developed no successful NFL QB’s while at Oregon.
Obviously unqualified.
January 3rd, 2014 at 3:04 pm
Kinda disappointed in joe for truing to show tedford in an ugly light. Does joe really think any college qb can come in and not need to learn a nfl offense? They just come straight from college ready to play in the nfl right? You make it sound like tedfords qbs were brainwashed and needed to go through shock treatment to get them to be good…. when in reality those kids were already good when they left tedford, and it would seem more like the nfl broke them.
January 3rd, 2014 at 3:09 pm
Give the guy a chance. Its better than taking some qb coach who has never called plays or designed a playbook in his life before.
If anything, him not being an nfl guy could create a fresh offense, that can be tweaked to work in the nfl.
Idk but im excited for tedford. Hes a better OC prospect than mike sullivan or josh mcdaniels, or some other wanna be oc that hasnt done anything in his entire career.
January 3rd, 2014 at 3:38 pm
I just watched Highlights of Aaron Rodgers at Cal. The offense look like a lot of RB in motion, dink and dunk.
January 3rd, 2014 at 3:39 pm
Jordan that’s not what I said at all. He was making it sound like Dilfer was a great quarterback, when everyone knows that the Ravens won that SB because of their killer D. Dilfer sucked.
January 3rd, 2014 at 3:45 pm
I forget how many national title games did Tedford go to?
Cal had one division title in 11 years under Tedford.
Kelly went to a BCS bowl in EACH of his four seasons as head coach, including one title game. He coached 3 outright PAC12 titles and one division title in his four years. He also wasn’t fired.
Were the resources the same? No. But, Cal did commit resources to him and he did have athletes. So, I’m not sure that’s a good comparison for your argument.
Let’s be honest, there’s been a buzz about Kelly even at New Hampshire. No one has been beating down Tedford’s door.
Again, I’d love to be wrong, but, if he doesn’t have immediate success there will be issues. We both know that.
January 3rd, 2014 at 3:48 pm
“it would seem more like the nfl broke them.”
The NFL broke 5 of 6 first round QBs? And the other had a chance to learn under one of the best ever for a few years….
January 3rd, 2014 at 4:13 pm
He’s going to be the OC not the HC he doesn’t need to go to a national title
bwahahahaha stop being ridiculous lol.
His job is to make this offense respectable and competitive and help whoever we get at QB.
That he has on his resume.
My goodness people are clueless
January 3rd, 2014 at 4:19 pm
@PR
My opinion is every bit of valid as yours. Don’t kid yourself. And, to be succinct, there’s nothing on his resume about playcalling in the NFL. So, to act like it’s not an unknown is simply untrue. This is a guess by Lovie. For his sake, I hope he guessed correctly.
We will see very quickly if his offense resembles Kelly’s or Spurrier’s. Both called their own plays in college. One failed miserably.
January 3rd, 2014 at 4:26 pm
Kelly had grand success at Oregon no doubt. So did Steve Spurrior at Florida but didn’t do well in pros.
No way to tell how this guy will do.
Gonna have to let him coach a game or two.
My point is this argument about the first round QB draft choices not working out is silly. Guys have had success in the pros with no QBs taken in first round at all. Chip Kelly is one.
I happen to think the seven first rounders at QB is an outstanding accomplishment no matter how they did in the pros.
January 3rd, 2014 at 4:33 pm
It’s an impeccable accomplishment, and he seems to be great at getting guys drafted high. However, I’m not sure that it means much about calling plays in the NFL. I don’t even know how much it means about coaching QBs in the NFL. He has never done it. Ever.
No one knows, hence the major risk. Especially considering how badly the offense needs improvement.
January 3rd, 2014 at 4:49 pm
A risk it is.
January 3rd, 2014 at 5:03 pm
Your opinion that we need national title winner at everyone of our positions is just that an opinion.
Not valid by any means.
Ridiculous actually.
And that is your insinuation so don’t bother denying it.
January 3rd, 2014 at 5:27 pm
every one*
January 3rd, 2014 at 5:35 pm
All it means is the guy has demonstrated over a long period of time that he can get qbs to perform at a very high level in college. And also at RB and WR.
Whether that will translate to Sundays who knows. It makes sense to me that it would.
Lovie sees something in him so for now he gets the benefit of the doubt, in my book, offensive minded or not. I would hope he’s been around long enough to know what a good offense conducive to pro football looks like.
January 3rd, 2014 at 8:50 pm
i’m actually more intrigues with the tedford choice than the meh feeling about lovie. however, it does seem that lovie has thought about what he needs to improve upon this go around. so i’m cautiously optimistic.
January 3rd, 2014 at 10:58 pm
I don’t see how any of u can actually be fans. I mean every time it’s a change in the organization, it’s nothing but negativity. If they hired new water boys some asshole would say something like ” I don’t think they can get water to the players fast enough”. Give the guy a chance. It couldn’t be any worse than it was.
January 4th, 2014 at 12:30 pm
I think Joe is down on Teddford because he knows he won’t get Johnny Football. If the descriptions I’ve read of Teddford’s system are true, then Glennon is just the guy.