Jared Allen And Leslie Frazier
January 20th, 2014
Allen shared his love
Yes, the Bucs need a pass rush worse than a stoner needs Doritos. Gerald McCoy is one of the best in the business at defensive tackle but the man needs help rushing the quarterback; no man short of perhaps the late Reggie White could get the job done alone.
A lot of Bucs fans are hoping, wishing, pining for the Bucs to go after would-be free agent Jared Allen of the Vikings. Part of that reasoning is new Bucs defensive coordinator Leslie Frazier has a history with Allen; he was both Allen’s defensive coordinator and head coach in Minnesota.
We know what Frazier thinks of Allen. He really likes him. But what of Allen? Would he want to reunite with Frazier?
Well, good guy Joe Smith of the Tampa Bay Times dug up a nugget from the St. Paul Pioneer-Press that suggests Allen would be just peachy playing for Frazier again.
“Coach Frazier worked our butts off,’ Allen said after Frazier was fired by the Vikings. “Coach Frazier wasn’t always just smiles and everything like that. But he’s a good human being. That’s the important thing. I’ll always remember what Coach Frazier did for me off the field. He helped me grow as a man and for that I’ll always be thankful.”
Well now, that doesn’t exactly sound like gun-toting, coach-cussing Aqib Talib talking about Chucky or jerk chicken-loving DJ Toes on the Line talking about former Bucs commander Greg Schiano, does it?
If nothing else, it sure seems like Allen — for the right price — sure would love to make Tampa Bay his next home, huh?
January 20th, 2014 at 11:07 am
Plus Tampa is a helluva lot warmer than Minnesota even in the winter. I just checked the temp in Minneapolis it’s 19.
January 20th, 2014 at 11:14 am
I think if we offer, he will sign here.
January 20th, 2014 at 11:14 am
Come on down much needed… @joe just yur opinion I’m seein alot of drum beating for Derek Carr if JF isn’t there at 7 would u take Carr ?
January 20th, 2014 at 11:31 am
Allen would be great pickup. No state tax. Jared c’mon down.
January 20th, 2014 at 11:33 am
deminion,
Joe can provide a much more definitive answer, but I can tell you why the chatter. Derek threw for over 5,000yds and set several records at Fresno State. Tedford, our new OC was himself a Fresno QB and Tedford coached Derek’s older brother David at Cal. So in many minds, there is a natural affinity there.
Some also believe that Lovie’s defense will get us 7 or 8 games this year, so we will not get another chance to pick this low so now is the best time to pull the trigger.
I disagree with the rationale of both camps, but that’s just my opinion and you will find a 1,000 more. Good luck with your choice!
January 20th, 2014 at 11:36 am
Allen would come if the price is right……
And….Carr will probably be there at 7…..
January 20th, 2014 at 11:42 am
@deminion
I wouldn’t take Derek Carr at 7. It’s too high to draft him to be honest. They will either trade down and get him or take the BPA at 7. I see them getting a QB in the 2nd or 3rd round to compete with Glennon.
January 20th, 2014 at 11:43 am
@macabee would u take Carr? Personally if Watkins is there at 7 gotta draft him doubt he will be available… For some reason I think LB gets drafted hope not 🙁 kinda starting to warm up to Mack though
January 20th, 2014 at 11:44 am
Well, as far as Allen is concerned, it’s always about 70 in Minnesota on Sundays.
January 20th, 2014 at 11:46 am
I just wanna see a bucs playoff berth is that too much to ask?
January 20th, 2014 at 11:50 am
@macabee
David Carr played at Fresno as well, not Cal!
January 20th, 2014 at 11:50 am
Way to ruin jerk chicken for me, Joe. 🙁
January 20th, 2014 at 11:56 am
Bucs should sign an experienced free agent like Allen to a short deal and see how Gholston develops behind him.
January 20th, 2014 at 12:02 pm
deminion,
I feel your pain. I’m terrible at crap shoots and that’s what mock drafts in January are. But without a combine or being able to read team visits as a barometer, I’d say the Bucs don’t take a QB in round 1 – more likely a Jimmy Garropolo in a later round.
I think they target their pass rusher (Peppers or Allen) and their tackling CB (Tillman) in FA. If there is a frenzy to pick the next may-be-the-one QB, The Rams are going to trade down and one of Jake Matthews, Greg Robinson, or Sammy Watkins will fall to the Bucs.
If GMs have learned their lesson from RGIII in 2012 and that crop of near-do-wells picked early last year they may cool to some of the most talked about QBs and select less risky players.
My opinion, if those offensive players are gone, I think they will trade down and target the other missing defensive component that Frazier referred to – Mike LB CJ Moseley to complete Lovie’s defense. If Mosely is not there, look out for 2 way DE/DT Stephon Tuitt or TE Jace Amaro late.
Now how’s that for a January wild a$$ guess? Lol.
January 20th, 2014 at 12:07 pm
allen, peppers etc….. all these DE’s who are past there prime and cost too much.
January 20th, 2014 at 12:13 pm
Thanks Jwayne, you’re right! It is Jordan Rogers brother Aaron that he coached at Cal. Good looking out!
January 20th, 2014 at 12:15 pm
No problem. Lol I was a big fan of Carr coming out of Fresno. Put up monster numbers . Unfortunately he was drafted by the Texans with the worst line in the history of the game.
January 20th, 2014 at 12:51 pm
I think the dark horse QB coming out in the draft who is being over looked but is practically NFL ready is A.J. McCarron. I think whoever drafts A.J will feel they hit the lotto.
January 20th, 2014 at 12:56 pm
I don’t think Allen wants to play outdoors in Minny for the next two years until the new dome is built. Make him an offer and I think he comes to Tampa.
January 20th, 2014 at 1:02 pm
Bucs fans want a respectable and highly competitive team. Gotta be optimistic as the coaching staff looks like a definite upgrade over the past season. When stoned eat something healthier than GMO Doritos.
January 20th, 2014 at 1:11 pm
Imagine Practices with Allen and Penn facing off Daily
especially Two a Days during Training Camp in the Florida Heat
WOW, that would be intense
January 20th, 2014 at 1:22 pm
Buc 1987….19 degrees…a heat wave. Likely be down around zero in the next 24 hours as a high…21 below tonight….and yes it is warmer in your deep freezer than that.
January 20th, 2014 at 1:24 pm
Allen would be a good pickup, though I don’t see it as a long term solution. I don’t think he has much left in the tank maybe a few good seasons left. Plus could you imagine Penn vs Allen in practice lol.
January 20th, 2014 at 1:35 pm
Allen will not come cheap. You guys are fooling yourselves.
And the Bucs cannot free upp cap room without a GM. Thhat GM is going to need time review contracts, work out a plan for the cap AND negotiate with player agents (likely for the first time).
We have players about to hit free agency and no one to stop it. Lovie can’t negotiate with agents.
At this point I wish the rumors on McKay had been true. At least he has experience.
January 20th, 2014 at 1:36 pm
Buc1987 Just ask Joe what it is like having the wind blow down from the North, across the corn fields around Charleston, and through the EIU campus this time a year. Just the thought of it will probably make his teeth chatter and a cold chill run through him.
January 20th, 2014 at 1:57 pm
I can see Jared Allen being a Buc for the right price. I would also like to see Tampa draft a young DE to compete with the current depth players to bolster and improve the quality of the rotation.
Who knows what will happen at QB this year? There are endless possibilities.
January 20th, 2014 at 2:00 pm
Sign Allen, try to trade AC for a Second Round pick,( more than likely will trade a 3rd round plus a conditional year after based on play performance.)
January 20th, 2014 at 2:13 pm
I like Jared Allen, but I don’t know that he is necessarily the right way to go for the Bucs. Do we want a much higher priced veteran who has probably already reached his peak and plateaued? Or should the Bucs be looking for a younger guy that has shown potential, and will be a little friendlier on the cap? After all, we need a MAJOR re-build on the O-line (Nicks is most likely done, who knows what Joseph still has left in the tank, right tackle is still iffy, plus we need quality depth all over the line), upgrades at TE and slot WR, and depth in the defensive backfield…If I was in the Bucs front office I’d look to an edge pass rusher in the top of the draft (Clowney, Mack, Barr, etc…) and spend my cap space on the O-line and other issues.
January 20th, 2014 at 2:17 pm
This team gets over the hump via free agency and not the draft. Draft 4 future , LS wants to spend every dime in free agency. As he should.
January 20th, 2014 at 2:38 pm
How would this defense look next season if the bucs had both Jared Allen and Julius Peppers??? That’s an exciting thought!
January 20th, 2014 at 2:54 pm
EVERSON GRIFFIN and CORY WOOTTON. Young and rising DLinemen. Get ‘er done.
January 20th, 2014 at 4:56 pm
Do you think they’ll franchise tag him? I would.
January 20th, 2014 at 5:06 pm
We’ll have penny of cap lol
January 20th, 2014 at 6:47 pm
We should have paid him 5 or so years ago when he was with KC
January 20th, 2014 at 6:50 pm
@pierce
Minnesota will not franchise a 31-32 year old D-end
January 20th, 2014 at 7:40 pm
@Joe
“jerk chicken” – LMAO
January 20th, 2014 at 8:49 pm
4th quarter, 1:39 left on the clock, and we got McCoy, Allen and peppers rushing Drew Brees. That would be great!!!
January 21st, 2014 at 12:34 am
For Free Agents- Bring Allen in and Bennet back!