Run Game Should Get In Gear
December 4th, 2013
Buffalo is a different animal
Much has been made of the Bucs’ inability to run the ball effectively in recent games. Well, a lot of it has to do with who the Bucs were playing.
In the Detroit Lions and the Stinking Panthers, the Bucs were going up against two of the top rush defenses in the NFL. Carolina and Detroit are second and third, respectively, in stopping the run.
In the win against the Lions, the Bucs had a meager 24 yards on the ground (which includes 17 yards lost by quarterback Mike Glennon).
Despite the Bucs offensive line being manhandled by the Stinking Panthers, the Bucs managed to rush for 66 yards. Looking back, that number surprised Joe because the Stinking Panthers defensive line was going all WWE on the Bucs’ front line.
Buffalo is a different animal. The Bills have a miserable rush defense, 24th to be exact, the polar opposite of what the Bucs faced with Detroit and Carolina.
If for some reason the Bucs cannot get the running game going Sunday, that would raise some interesting questions.
December 4th, 2013 at 8:47 am
I never thought I would be against winning but at this point I’m wondering what it accomplishes that is positive? Aside from morale?
Having a higher draft pick seems like it would help more than ending on a positive note. If Schiano is fired a 1 of 2 pick would attract a good coach. Heck, Tomlin might even become available.
I’m not a Schiano hater, but denying it’s possible he gets canned is moot.
December 4th, 2013 at 9:03 am
I have been saying for months I don’t want the Bucs to win so we improve our draft position. Then… we WON, and again, and again. Man, it felt so good, I just didn’t care. It was like a bad drug. But now here we are and the drugs have worn off. Embarrassed by the stinking Panthers and sliding down in draft position. Stop the madness….
December 4th, 2013 at 9:08 am
Having a top draft does not guarantee success. Doug Martin was a late first round pick. Top five pics are very scary unless there is a can’t miss o lineman, which rockstar doesn’t draft. If we get a top five, I’m for trading back and getting more pics.
December 4th, 2013 at 9:23 am
ZBucs,
Having a good draft position isn’t always who you pick. It’s the value of the pick itself. As you suggest, the Bucs may want to trade down and acquire more picks. We currently have no 3rd or 6rd pick.
Look at the bonanza the Rams got for trading to the Redskins for RGIII. I don’t expect that kind of windfall again, but there is value in having that alternative.
Now having said that, I would never intentionally lose games to acquire such a position!
December 4th, 2013 at 9:29 am
@Macabee
Thank for shedding light on what should be obvious to most, but is apparently lost on some.
December 4th, 2013 at 10:07 am
The hope shouldn’t be that we end up with a top 3 pick. The hope should be that our team is in a position where we make the best possible move with our pick. What I don’t want is a new coach to come in with the demand that he gets to select his favorite 1st round QB, thereby throwing Glennon under the bus.
December 4th, 2013 at 10:22 am
Buffalo may not play good run D, but their pass rush is very good.They lead the league in sacks.
December 4th, 2013 at 10:26 am
For the life of me, i can never understand people that would rather LOSE and have a good draft selection than WIN and have a good record. The expectation that a top pick means a good team just seems absurd to me.
I’ll take wins over a high draft pick ANY DAY.
December 4th, 2013 at 10:46 am
@Celly season is lost, homeslice. As long as the games are competitive and entertaining and Glennon lights it up I have to say at this point id rather take the loss so we have a better chance of snagging an elite prospect.
December 4th, 2013 at 10:48 am
So many of you definitely understand the draft process. It does not matter if you pick 1st or have the 32nd pick. It just matters who you pick. Its so simple… Really, why do they even have the draft process?
As some of you like to point out, we got Martin at the bottom of the 1st rd. If I have to point out the obvious… we also got Clayborn with the 20th pick, whereas the Saints grabbed Cameron Jordan (already 9.5 sacks this year) with the 24th pick, and we drafted Myron Lewis in the 3rd rd, 28 spots AHEAD of Jimmy Graham, and the examples are endless.
It makes you wonder why the NFL has an inverted draft process… I just have no patience today I guess
December 4th, 2013 at 10:55 am
Hoping to lose out is crazy. Do we pick a Mark Barron or a Luke Kuechly with our top 10 pick?
December 4th, 2013 at 11:28 am
Barron/David all day over Kuechly/scrub offensive guard
December 4th, 2013 at 11:41 am
Season is lost??? Sounds like looser talk to me. I can’t fathom a true Bucs fan rooting for us to loose, that’s ridiculous. It makes me question wether y’all are really Buc Fans, Or Draft Fans. Which one is it?
December 4th, 2013 at 12:28 pm
A better draft position is a consolation prize for losers.
It matters who you pick & not where. We should trade our pick for more picks…we have depth problems and multiple needs.
We can trade down and still get a great WR….perhaps a TE…and fill in the blanks later in the draft and FA.
December 4th, 2013 at 12:43 pm
Hello, we are 3-9. Bucs are already losers this season, folks. I get that we got a taste for winning this past month, but lets get real. We as fans should be looking at who is developing so we can begin looking forward to next year once Lovie starts running the show. Not rooting for the bucs to lose, im just rooting for a more favorable position to do more things come May (or snag Clowney). Wahh im a horrible fan
December 4th, 2013 at 1:03 pm
I want wins! Heck with draft position.
December 4th, 2013 at 2:23 pm
ZBucs Says
“Having a top draft does not guarantee success.”
I am so tired of people typing this. How did the Falcons get a franchise QB? How did the Panthers? How did the Colts?
There are failures as well, but there are success stories too, and you increase odds when having a top draft pick.
EVERYONE knows it is not a sure thing. But it is a greater chance.
December 4th, 2013 at 2:58 pm
@Buccaneer Bonzai,
Just curious, how many Super Bowls have those teams you mentioned won? Not many. The Patriots seem to do okay picking at the bottom of the draft. So do the Saints, Ravens, Seahawks, 49ers, and Steelers (all with franchise QB’s). Meanwhile, the Bills, Jags, Browns, and (sometimes) Bucs live at the top of the draft. Maybe I’m crazy, but that’s pretty strong evidence that picking high in the draft doesn’t make you a Super Bowl team. You actually have to go out and scout and not be lazy – what a concept! You go ahead and want us to lose, I’ll cheer for wins.