“Proper Adjustments” Concern Dave Moore
December 2nd, 2013
The Bucs averaging two points per third quarter is very troublesome
The Bucs offense in the second half of games is about as potent as Hugh Hefner without his little blue pills.
For some reason, the New Schiano Order Bucs open second halves like Raheem Morris’ teams typically started games. With such a consistent patter in place, how could it not be a coaching flaw in some way? Bad luck only goes so far.
Cerebral Dave Moore, the former tight end and current color analyst on the Buccaneers Radio analyst seems to be in Joe’s corner with this. Other teams are just winning the hidden halftime battle, Moore said today on the Ron and Ian show. on WDAE-AM 620.
“The concern I have is really adjustments at halftime,” Moore said. “The third quarter has really been an issue for them. They only have 24 points all season in the third quarter. And so maybe some of it’s coaching; some of it’s execution. We’re still seeing drop balls. We’re still seeing missed assignments.
“We saw Glennon get blasted by No. 56 coming from the backside where the offensive line doesn’t even pick the guy up. That’s not play calling. That’s not necessarily coaching. That’s guys not doing their job on the field. So there’s a combination of things going on that you’d anticipate would be corrected as you go. … Some of it’s on the players. Some of it’s on the coaches, as far as making proper adjustments.”
You read that correctly — “24 points all season in the third quarter, an average of two points a game.”
Greg Schiano has addressed the halftime adjusments issue many times, saying their a little overblown because important adjustments are made all game long, not just at halftime.
But the evidence is clearly. Something makes the Bucs look impotent in the third quarter. (Listen to all of Moore’s excellent audio below.)
December 2nd, 2013 at 2:20 pm
If anyone really knew the answer to this…they would be providing the “I would have done this”….but that isn’t coming. It just really looks like other teams are firing up and on all cylinders and we are laying back and misfiring.
I do think its somewhat lack of ajustments.
I really don’t understand how Sullivan gets away with his answers…”Well…you know…its a little bit of everything….we’ll have to work to correct that….we’ll get it fixed.”
Anyone calling for the firing of Schiano can’t possibly let Sully off the hook….he really need to get the hook!!!
December 2nd, 2013 at 2:26 pm
It’s coaching.
As much as I don’t want to see a gutting of the staff, I think it’s necessary.
We have a lot of talent on this team. As a coach you have to maximize that talent and we have fallen WAY short.
How would you NOT want to coach this team next year? A top pick in the draft, loads of talent including a stable of RB’s. Brian Billick, are you listening?
December 2nd, 2013 at 2:30 pm
Defensive line stunts + Zero 2nd half offensive adjustments= our crappy team
We need a BIG TIME 1st round draft pick on the OL/DL, as this our weakness.
December 2nd, 2013 at 2:42 pm
The thing I question is how much is Schiano stifling these coordinators? Are the plays called and schemes 80% his doing? 50%? I haven’t heard a real answer to this question because I dont think anybody really knows for sure, but whoever is in control the most needs to go.
December 2nd, 2013 at 2:48 pm
So many blown assignments, the TD on Goldson was just one other example along with the Glennon sack.
Question for you folks, if that much time and emphasis is put into preparation, why so breakdowns?
December 2nd, 2013 at 2:55 pm
I’m not looking forward to yet another regime change, but yesterday was a goat cluck.
Indefensible, inexcusable and incompetent decision making by the HC and Coordinators.
Father Dungy/ Ray Perkins would both marvel at the stubbornness of this staff.
December 2nd, 2013 at 3:00 pm
If Schiano stays, both coordinators need to go in my opinion. Play calling on both sides have been awful in big chunks of games. The stunting has to stop. It takes players out of plays a majority of the time. And they are stupid stunts at that. I seen a few plays that had Clayborn running all the way to the other side in the middle of a play. Cam had all day because of this crap.
December 2nd, 2013 at 3:09 pm
If Glennon is indeed Schiano’s guy, Sullivan must stay. Yeah, Joe wrote that. No need to F’ up the kid’s head with a new offense/coordinator just when he’s learning the original offense.
Sheridan is a whole different discussion.
December 2nd, 2013 at 3:16 pm
Sheridan should be employed outside the gates of One Buc, handing out sodas to the faithful.
That way he can be good at something, while being a man of his word.
December 2nd, 2013 at 4:37 pm
Colin cowherd was talking today about that guy from Texans saying the Pats cheated and spied on them. He pointed to Belichik’s halftime adjustments. He said there has never been a great coach that didn’t have great halftime adjustments. Couphlin, belichick, Saban all great at adjusting in 6 minutes during halftime. That immediately made me think of Schiano saying halftime adjustments were for the birds. Then I come on JBF and there’s an article about it.
December 2nd, 2013 at 4:40 pm
@Couch Fan
Would you want to work for him? He has tarnished the reputation of the organization with his antics, especially rushing the kneel downs, which he says are up to the players. Give me a break.
I really believe, but can’t prove it, that he overrules these coordinators, who I don’t think are especially qualified.
We need to get rid of him as soon as the season is over, and entice qualified, experienced people to run the team.
Personally, I would hire Bill Polian if he is interested.
Merry Xmas from Canada
December 2nd, 2013 at 4:48 pm
Wasn’t it refreshing to see all the adjustments the Bucs came up with in the 2nd game against the Panthers…….wait, looked exactly like the 1st game, nice coaching boys.
December 2nd, 2013 at 4:51 pm
Another week, the same problems. At some point the coaching staff has to demonstrate the ability to fix the problems. After 12 games, they haven’t shown that ability. How is the fan base supposed to get excited about next year if the Glazers decide to stay the course with this staff. The team is not progressing. Changes need to be made.
December 2nd, 2013 at 6:01 pm
@Joe
Typically I would agree with you if the coordinator was halfway decent. I just dont see that with Sullivan. He may be a great teacher behind the scenes but what good are you if you call lousy plays most of the time during games? just my 2 cents.
December 2nd, 2013 at 6:21 pm
YA YA . Get rid of the OC and it would screw up Glennon. Same crap we heard about Freeman. Except this year it would be his second year in the same system. He would know the playbook better and everyone would be on the same page. How did that work out. Someone said here how great he was doing all during OTA’s and camp. And of course if we had “Johnny Football” he would not get sacked by 56. Just step aside, see an open receiver and hit him in stride.
Coaches come and go. Systems change. That does not mean it always makes a player bad. In Fact, it can make them better.
December 2nd, 2013 at 7:02 pm
wITH the exception of the jets game, we have looked good at the start then fallen off. It does seem like when other teams adjust to us, we have no answers!
December 2nd, 2013 at 7:16 pm
i think it’s more of a mindset than an action that is taken or not taken. not sure how to fix it, but most weeks in the schiano era we seem like a climber who has just cruised up a rock face until that awful moment where he looks down, realizes where he is at, and just freezes for fear of making a misstep. we get going, maybe have a nice lead, then we see we’ve passed the halfway point and it’s “ohmygod ohmygod ohmygod don’t fall don’t fall don’t…..whoops!”
December 2nd, 2013 at 7:34 pm
@Joe: Not that I disagree with what you are saying, but just hanging onto the old guy for the sake of continuity isn’t intelligent if he is not good at his job.
December 3rd, 2013 at 10:36 am
@Joe
I agree with the idea of not to ruin Glennons progress of learning the scheme. However the saying “if it ain’t broken don’t fix it” doesn’t apply here. It’s broken when we do this all the time: 1st down – Run the middle, 2nd – Run the middle, 3rd and long – Check down. 4th Punt.
The play calling regressed last week, for both sides of the field. Glennon needs a better system in order to improve, but if Schiano goes then maybe the system will change. But I do think we all can agree that the offensive scheme blows and needs improvements.