Mike Glennon And Colin Kaepernick
December 11th, 2013
The 49ers are horrible passing the ball, but Colin Kaepernick is light years ahead of Mike Glennon.
So we’ve seen Mike Glennon log three so-so games, all in succession, against three teams in Detroit, Carolina and Buffalo that are known to be unkind to quarterbacks.
It doesn’t get much easier Sunday with the rugged 49ers coming to town. Yes, Glennon is beginning to look like a rookie selected in the third round, and the Custodian of Canton, eye-RAH! Kaufman of the Tampa Tribune, pointed out how much the Bucs’ passing game this season, largely with Glennon behind center, is sputtering.
@IKaufmanTBO: The Buccaneers rank 31st in the league in passing yards per game. The only club below them? Try Sunday’s opponent, the San Francisco 49ers.
But here is the difference between Glennon and Kaepernick. Glennon has yet to produce a winning season. Even starting after the Bucs washed their hands of leaky Rip Van Freeman, Glennon has a 4-6 record.
Kaepernick had the 49ers on the very doorstep of a Super Bowl victory. Additionally, Kaepernick is a dangerous man. While he will never make anyone forget Aaron Rodgers, Kaepernick has the skills, both with his arm and his legs, to hurt teams. He’s averaging more than five yards a carry, 78 rushes for 407 yards, but only has two 300+ yard passing days in his career.
While the Bucs and 49ers are the worst passing teams in the NFL, Joe wouldn’t blink an eye to choose Kaepernick over Glennon.
December 11th, 2013 at 8:46 am
Kaepernick is far superior in the only stat that matters: winning
December 11th, 2013 at 8:59 am
It is very difficult to compare two differnt style QB from two different teams…..Would Kaepernick perform better as the Bucs QB right now?….Probably….how will Glennon perform if we add a WR & TE and a few more games experience…..probably better.
The only comparison that makes any difference now is Glennon vs Orlovsky….because that’s who we have.
December 11th, 2013 at 9:07 am
If you put Mike Glennon on the 49er’s, he’d have a winning record with that defense as well.
December 11th, 2013 at 9:14 am
The 49ers are a good team…no doubt. But they are definitely a beatable team. I don’t think the Bucs winning this home game is out of the question. I don’t think it will be a huge upset. I am actually expecting the Bucs to win this game. The 49ers style of play is conservative and their fastest player on offense is their QB. Having said that, I think that is where the Bucs could lose this game. We have had trouble ALL year with QB’s that have mobility. We are good for at least 3 defensive line stunts that have zero contain on the QB and allows for big, game-tipping plays.
Hopefully Schiano and Sheridan will learn from the 2 times they played Cam and he burned them with big runs on stunt plays. Cam had over 80 yards combined rushing on 2 plays where we stunted the last 2 games we faced him. If they keep up that nonsense, Kaepernick could run for even more. They have to make Colin a pocket passer (which he is very average at) to win this game.
December 11th, 2013 at 9:29 am
@Nate_teewtz
If the Bucs embrace the concept of SPYING THE QB, I agree with you all the way. Derreck Brooks was used to spy Michael Vick beautifully. May be the coaching staff have heard of this concept and EXECUTE IT!
More 3 step short passes will help setup the running game & Glennon with the SF front 7.
Lyndell better be hot too…
December 11th, 2013 at 9:30 am
On any team a player can make a big difference like LVD, but if the other team never passes where a DB is, he will not have an interception. So with a QB, take P. Manning, Brady, Brees, Rogers, and put them on the Bucs, would that make our OL better or the receivers, or the play calling, I don’t think so. These QBs would be better because of their experience, not anything else.
Our offense is a work in progress that needs major pieces just like the DL needs a good end, when we may have found, but we need another.
Did the QB for Detroit look that good against us, with all the sacks and interceptions we had, again I don’t think so and they are in the hunt for a playoff position.
Give the kid a chance and some help, if every team ran twice and then threw for most of their series, they would have problems also.
December 11th, 2013 at 9:37 am
Niners are on a whole nother level from the Bucs. Say your prayers that the Bucs continue generate turnovers at the same rate as cases of gonorrhea after a night at Mons.
Kap certainly isnt the strong suit here, now that teams have woken up to how to stop the goofy ass options that are now looking as much of a fad as the wildcat.
Yeah, thats okay. Ill keep the developing rookie pocket passer over the guy whose strong suit is a passing trend and struggles to win with an elite team.
December 11th, 2013 at 9:39 am
A post sure to generate comments but a little too general. Besides being too early to judge Glennon, the reason the Niners have dropped this year is because of the regression of Colin. I’m sure glennon would love to have the number 3 defense (points against) in the league, not to mention Boldin, Crabtree, Vernon Davis, Gore and that O-line. Give Colin our underachieving o-line, 3rd string RB, Rutgers free agent starting TE and WR and his 57percent completion rate would drop even more and he would look like RG3 does, one read then take off running. Let’s not misread why SF is a great team. Swap Colin and Russell Wilson and SF would be in first.
December 11th, 2013 at 9:43 am
@LS II – I’m not saying that our coaching staff are the sharpest tools in the shed but I’m damn sure they know more about executing a game plan than any of us morons on this message board.
If you guys were so freaking brilliant you’d be on an NFL staff.
December 11th, 2013 at 10:05 am
Kap sucks he’s overrated. Whatever the spread is Bucs cover.
December 11th, 2013 at 10:09 am
We have faced three very stout front sevens over the last three weeks. All were coming after Glennon. He did make enough plays against Detroit and Buffalo to win.
Albeit, Glennon looked pedestrian but not rattled, (see Manuel, E.J.) and the entire Buc offense was sputtering.
I am all for wholesale changes on the offense… but Glennon should be given another year.
December 11th, 2013 at 10:14 am
I do not want the Bucs to cover, I want them to win outright.
December 11th, 2013 at 10:17 am
Wholesale changes are not really needed. The Bucs need their starters back and a few spots filled with new guys. If Glennon had everyone healthy, and the entire Freeman cluster did not happen, maybe he would have a winning record. heck, if all goes well he will have a winning record at the end of this year…not likely but possible.
December 11th, 2013 at 10:26 am
Alex Smith > Colin Kaepernick. You’re also forgetting that if Mike Glennon had Harbaugh coaching him up things would also be very different.
December 11th, 2013 at 10:33 am
Look, Glennon is a rookie. Since when are rookie QB’s expected to come in and light up the world? Just because Cam and Luck and RGIII and Wilson did.. now all of a sudden there is no room for a rookie to come in and have to learn? From now on all rookie QB’s have to have a winning record year 1 or they’re a bust?!? That would eliminate 99% of the QB’s who have ever come into this league. Give Glennon time and some weapons. I believe he will be not just good but VERY good with a supporting cast.
As for the 49’rs…the Bucs should have a bone to pick with them. Last time they played they were embarrassed big time.
The San Fran players were saying the Bucs quit and were telling Ronde to get the players to play so it would be a game. It was horrible. I hope players like McCoy remember (he suffered a high ankle sprain that game) and want some revenge. The 49’rs are beatable. I think it will be a low scoring game unless Sheridan runs those stunts and we lose contain. Then it could get ugly.
December 11th, 2013 at 10:35 am
Everybody is still high on the “W” from last week I see. Some would not swap Colin for Glennon? Keep smokin that “W”…
If you put “Glennon in place of Colin he would have a winning record”? Yeah, maybe. But would the 49ers be 9-4? Don’t think so.
Glennon is not even close to Colin, not in the same State, let alone the same neighborhood. He is great for a 3rd rd rookie QB, but thats it.
December 11th, 2013 at 10:48 am
@Harry………still too early to make final judgements on either qb, but if you think Colin would be 9-4 with the Bucs o-line, lack of playmakers, and coaching staff you’re the one smokin something.
December 11th, 2013 at 10:49 am
Ronde Barber was a pretty good third round pick….
December 11th, 2013 at 10:53 am
@Kennedy306:
Please don’t put words in my mouth and then criticize me for them. No, I do not think Colin would give us a 9-4 record, but since you asked, do I think we would be better than 4-9? Absolutely. If you don’t, then keep smokin your stuff.
Per PFF: “…Expectations for rookie quarterbacks have been elevated to absurd levels after the success of last year’s crop but Mike Glennon and EJ Manuel’s struggles were concerning to say the least. Despite what the statistics might say, Glennon was particularly poor, forcing balls consistently into coverage.”
December 11th, 2013 at 11:02 am
I see people have continue to believe Jaws absurd proclamation that Kaep has a chance to be the best ever. Newsflash: the guy reads his twitter feed to inspire him. Think about how weak minded that guy is. Pathetically weak minded.
Also take a lotn at Kaep’s stats in Seattle versus Glennon. Glennon made Kaep look like an amateur.
December 11th, 2013 at 11:52 am
i agree that the niners are on a different tier than the bucs, but let’s not forget how bad they were for a long time before turning into what they are. they were a team that had built a great talent base in the draft but couldn’t put it all together until the right coach came along. is greg schiano our mike singletary?
December 11th, 2013 at 11:56 am
Pretty good analysis of Glennon: http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/64557588/
December 11th, 2013 at 11:56 am
Blah blah blah, Keep spewwing your stupidity Harry. I’m enjoying reading your hate… makes my long days at work all the more entertaining. Kaep is a decent QB right now. he is nothing special. Putting him on the Bucs would not assure anymore than 4 wins either.
Everything around Colin is better. The coaching, the players the defense and offense. It’s sad that you hate our team so much that you just can’t find anything positive to say about them. Even after a win. According to you were going to lose this week anyway so can’t you be happy for a few more days? Or does that make you constipated or something?
December 11th, 2013 at 12:00 pm
Dont forot too that the Bucs seaso passing stats (being 31s in he leaue) are skewed by having Freeman in there for the first 4 games. Glennon i completng 61% of his passes and has 15 TDs to 7 Ints and a passer rating of 86.4. Joe, I’m not sure how that qualifies as “looking like a rookie selected in the 3rd round”. He’s out playing many other QBs right now. he makes mistakes but over the last 5 games we are 4-1. How much better off would we have been if Glennon had started week 1?
December 11th, 2013 at 12:27 pm
@MikeJ Nice article find.
“The schematic problems are more pronounced in Glennon’s early games. The Buccaneers liked to run on first and second down, then force Glennon to execute on third-and-long, then make him rain footballs when the team fell behind. Some of Glennon’s worst early-season games came in fat-chance circumstances, with coaches expecting Tom Brady comeback drives from deep in Cardinals territory, and other high-stakes tests.”
I think this says a lot right here about our offense
December 11th, 2013 at 12:50 pm
Mikeck…Right on!
December 11th, 2013 at 4:09 pm
Glennon’s throwing stats are almost identical to Kaepernick’s. And Keapernick has a ton more weapons…
December 11th, 2013 at 5:32 pm
Whoever says Glennon isn’t doing well is a fool or a**clown! Kid came in and is doing just fine! Oh he had 1…..1….1 bad game! So what! He’s working with a bunch of backups and is still mid tier QB. I love this site, but am really tired of only pointing out negatives and not looking at the big picture! I’m not saying I’m sold on Glennon which I have said before, but at the same time he has done better then our last 1st round franchise(lol) QB did. I’ve been a Bucs fan since growing up in south Florida in the 80’s and watching the comments by some here is getting old! If you can’t see the turnaround our team( I say that cause some trolls are obviously not fans!) then you’re blind. Give the kid another year before passing judgement. I feel he has earned it at this point. I agree with everybody that says we need a DE, OC, and DC. But as for a QB and HC…… Get over it! Schiano has done some really good things for us and as for Glennon, I wanna see our offense have more then just a few starters that aren’t on IR! This post isn’t meant to upset anybody! I’m just tired of so called fans being nothing but negative! You don’t like our team then find a new one!
December 11th, 2013 at 9:56 pm
I agree, the only fair way to judge Glennons potential and whether he is the long term answer at QB is to wait until next year when we have all our injured players back and have hopefully added a good play making WR or 2 and improved the oline. When he truly has a full no. 1 offense on the field to work with is when the real analysis of him can begin.
December 11th, 2013 at 11:11 pm
@Pick6: I agree with you; there must be somebody better than Schiano. Sort of like when Gruden took over Dungy’s team.
@JoeBuc writers: what is the purpose of perpetually repeating names like the stinking Panthers and leaky Rip Van Freeman? Is this supposed to be funny?
Personally, I find it a bit tiresome. Perhaps, use a thesaurus?
Merry xmas from Canada
December 12th, 2013 at 5:03 am
OB said:
So with a QB, take P. Manning, Brady, Brees, Rogers, and put them on the Bucs, would that make our OL better or the receivers, or the play calling, I don’t think so. These QBs would be better because of their experience, not anything else.
omfg, seriously? so only their experience makes them better qb’s….than who, glennon. really? please explain this fantastic insight.