Down On Darrelle
December 2nd, 2013
Peter King offers a harsh critique of Darrelle Revis, Joe’s not sure it’s fair.
What felt like the impossible reared its ugly head during the Bucs-Panthers game yesterday. Darrelle Revis was beaten easily for a touchdown, by the not-so-immortal Ted Ginn, Jr.
Joe felt like he was kicked in the gut. Between that and Mike Glennon’s bizarre fumble, Joe felt like the Bucs were paying back the devil for their early Christmas gifts in Detroit.
Revis bit and jumped the double-move route and Ginn streaked for the end zone. Safety help over the top was about three steps late.
Perhaps Revis told Bucs safeties he was going to gamble and they agreed to have his back deep? Revis also has a long history with Ginn going back to high school and might have been outfoxed, noted the Charlotte Observer.
Regardless, it made olive oil-lapping, popcorn-munching, coffee-slurping, fried-chicken-eating, oatmeal-loving, circle-jerking, beer-chugging, cricket-watching, scone-loathing, college football-naïve, baseball box score-reading Peter King of Sports Illustrated shake his head.
5. I think we all thought Darrelle Revis had enough time to rehab and play well this season. We all were wrong. He’s trying to gut it out, but to see Ted Ginn school him for a touchdown Sunday … not the Revis we’ve known.
Joe’s not sure King is being fair. Revis has played well this season, but has been banged up with non-knee injuries the past two weeks.
However, it is fair to scrutinize the Bucs’ organizational decision to bank so heavily on four players with massive salaries returning from major offseason surgery: Davin Joseph, Carl Nicks, Adrian Clayborn and Revis. One could argue that each one has had the worst season of his career.
That’s not a coincidence.
December 2nd, 2013 at 12:28 pm
We have now spent 3 draft picks on the cornerback position. Revis=1st and 3rd, Banks=2nd. Going forward we have to get more production out of the cornerback position in general.
December 2nd, 2013 at 12:28 pm
Exactly when has safety help been timely??
December 2nd, 2013 at 12:31 pm
The DL is a bigger problem than the secondary.
The secondary can’t do crap when the defensive line can’t generate any pressure whatsoever.
December 2nd, 2013 at 12:39 pm
The Safety help has been late all season. But can’t blame that one on the safeties. Ginn just smoked him
December 2nd, 2013 at 12:41 pm
Darn that Mark Dominik………………
December 2nd, 2013 at 12:41 pm
To be fair, Ginn Jr. is a speed receiver, and with Revis still shaking off the rust, it’s not a matchup that plays to his strengths. It’s not like Revis is washed up, I would expect Ginn to have some success on just about any corner; Sherman, Haden or Peterson included. The issue with Ginn was always his ability to consistently catch the ball, and he’s improved upon that this season in Carolina. The world isn’t crashing down on the Bucs; it’s just a bad play at an inopportune time, nothing more, nothing less.
Remember, Sherman was roasted by TY Hilton, a receiver who is small and very fast. It happens. I do think Revis will be even more improved after a full offseason of recovery. Remember, this is a passing league; the rules are slanted to favor the offense. No corner is truly a shutdown corner anymore, but the elite ones, which include Revis, are valuable because they discourage the QB from looking in their direction for large portions of the game. With an improved pass rush next season (fingers crossed), Revis can continue to help the secondary develop, as I expect to see Banks and company to grow with a year of experience under their belts.
December 2nd, 2013 at 12:42 pm
Keep your head up Joe, Its very close to the off-season were the pop-star is the undisputed king. When the pop-star is GM there is always the excitement of high draft picks, and constant speculation of high priced free-agents that most Buc fans seem to enjoy. ( unless the pop-star is let go of course.)
December 2nd, 2013 at 1:01 pm
joe sucks. like he was not all over freemans jock, now he’s ridin revis.
trying to roll with the fans emotions. take a stance joe……oh yeah, you already did.
wherever the wind blows.
December 2nd, 2013 at 1:05 pm
Not just Revis. The whole squad got smoked yesterday.
December 2nd, 2013 at 1:05 pm
he was burned earlier in the game by lafell, but the ball was over thrown.
December 2nd, 2013 at 1:09 pm
I can’t believe this hasn’t been mentioned, but wasn’t Revis a gameday decision because of a groin injury? Wouldn’t that have played a role?
It has nothing to do with his previous injury.
December 2nd, 2013 at 1:10 pm
Revis will be gone next year. Based on his salary versus production. Its been a collosal failure. Glazers go get some real coaches, players and a new GM.
December 2nd, 2013 at 1:12 pm
Not that I am a medic or anything, but after Darelle dropped an easy pick and landed on his own weight untouched, how does that lead to a major injury that you don’t shake off?
Either he was faking an injury to take the focus off the awful drop of a gift INT, or he is developing into an injury prone player?
Jury’s still out on Revis, but the recent eyeball test hasn’t been kind to him.
December 2nd, 2013 at 1:14 pm
I like darrele Revis but he has not earned that contract he received. Dom knows knees but he’s shown he’s not 100% healthy out there. I’d love to keep Revis but if he’s not willing to renegotiate his contract I’d let him go. We could have had Star Loutelli. However now we have to deal with him.
Dom should be fired. He’s the only one who overpaid for goldson. And competed against himself for Revis.
December 2nd, 2013 at 1:24 pm
@Chris – Goldson was a good acquisition and would be lighting the league up if the league weren’t actively working to phase his style of play out. And you can’t say that they should have known that this was going to be the case because the officials still aren’t sure what is and isn’t allowed so it’s all up in the air.
Revis has been serviceable but after a surgery like that I would say that’s all we could realistically expect. Granted, we way overpaid for serviceable but at that position we couldn’t expect him to be back at the level he was pre-surgery when we weren’t even sure if he’d be playing week 1. If he’s here next season then an offseason of recovery and strengthening will do a lot to get him back to that level.
December 2nd, 2013 at 1:29 pm
I’m not worried about Revis….he has $16 million reasons to play his very best….I am worried very much about our D-line….it underperforms constantly as an entire group. It is giving the QB way too much time to find open recievers.
Revis was worth the draft picks….but perhaps not the $$$ going forward….I definatly don’t see us cutting him unless there is a wholesale change in the organization. Even the best gets burnt once in a while.
December 2nd, 2013 at 1:42 pm
Patrick goldson was exposed last year in coverage. What I’m saying is he’s a good player not worth the money he got. The secondary feeds off the front 4. If you don’t have a pass rush your secondary is useless regardless how much you spend.
December 2nd, 2013 at 1:43 pm
Revis is going nowhere before the end of the 2014 unless due to injury.
Hey, Joe, this isn’t yet another complaint about the read more thing, but more of an observation. I use to read every article you posted but now I am finding myself skipping several and only clicking “Read More” on the articles I think will be of interest to me.
How this would affect things if happening on a more global scale I have no clue, but that is the result you are achieving from this one visitor. Again, not intended as a complai t but as useful information. I would have put it in the thread on the topic but when I went there comments were closed.
December 2nd, 2013 at 1:48 pm
not worth a million a game PERIOD…..quite frankly every one of the pop stars free agents were mediocre at best…I swear that guy is 10 x’s better getting the scrape off other teams roster than shopping with a phat wallet….demote him as an advanced scout and call it a day…we need a man that can identify MEN….not busted old has beens looking to collect while they ride the pine….Nicks, enough said
December 2nd, 2013 at 1:56 pm
@Chris – I’ll give you that. we could have 4 deion sanders clones back there and they wouldn’t be able to blanket receivers for the day and a half the opposing qbs have to throw the ball. But we’ve got to make sure the D-line finishes their dance routines. Since being a DC obviously hasn’t worked for Sheridan he’s going to use game film as audition tape for his next job as a choreographer
December 2nd, 2013 at 2:05 pm
No CB is worth $16mil, but that’s what it was going to take to get him in TB. He’s put together an all-together solid season this year, and has been considered a top-3 CB all season long by just about every stats site I’ve seen. I believe that the front office was giving Revis his $16mil this season while making sure he was going to come back healthy, and that they’ll re-structure the deal either this offseason or next to something a little more manageable but with some guaranteed money.
December 2nd, 2013 at 2:08 pm
If Mediocre Mark were any where as near as smart as his proponents claim him to be, he would have picked up on the NFL phasing out Goldson’s style of play. Instead, he gave him a massive contract.
How good and how long should a first round pick be with a team? Was Caddy a failed pick (6 seasons including 2 injury shortened)? Does anyone think Revis will be here that long? Has his play been worthy of his play?
Sure, maybe next year he will be, but, not this year. And for a milly a game???
That’s about as stupid as signing a blocking tight end, to a pass catching TE needy team, and HOPING he blossoms into a pass catching TE.
December 2nd, 2013 at 2:11 pm
@mvermulm – If Revis’ history has proved anything he’s not going to take less money. He’s nothing if not very aware of his market value. If he’s able to get fully recovered this off season and we want to give him less he’ll go work out for another team, show them he’s recovered and they’ll take him off our hands in a second.
December 2nd, 2013 at 2:21 pm
@thegregwitul
to be fair—–Revis got burnt by Tedd Freaking Ginn Jr.
That is terrible.
Revis makes 1 million per game to not be the problem. I.e. not get beat by guys like Tedd Ginn, and to not drop interceptions that hit you in the numbers.
December 2nd, 2013 at 2:45 pm
Not worried about paying a CORNERBACK 16MILLION A YEAR!!!!! WTFFFFFFFFFFFFF…LOL
Kinda reminds me of when the ’78 Buffalo Bills traded the former O.J Simpson (31) to the sadsack 49ers for a second-round pick. Simpson never gained more than 593 yards in a season while the Niners eked out successive 2-14 marks. Many believe it was one of the worst trades in NFL history.
IMO-The Revis Trade was dumb period.
December 2nd, 2013 at 3:13 pm
He’ll be fine.
He’s played excellent this season.
1 play does not change that.
With an offseason under his belt and a full bill of health it will be all worth it.
Stop being dramatic LUV
December 2nd, 2013 at 3:17 pm
People here talk like he hasn’t been a game changer for us and can actually be replaced.
People were bitching about our weak secondary and we go out a get one of the best cornerbacks to ever play the position who the FO knew would need time to gain his old form and heal completely and the same people want to crucify him for not being superman.
Get the hell over yourselves.
December 2nd, 2013 at 3:26 pm
Two receivers Revis has always had trouble with Ted Ginn & Steve Johnson. In 09′ “THE YEAR” the island was discovered, Revis gave up his ONLY big touchdown to none other than Ted Ginn. Revis has only given up 2 touchdowns in his primary coverage all of this year you guys should be ashamed of yourselves being prisoners of the moment.
December 2nd, 2013 at 3:44 pm
people the guy is not even 100% and is better than any corner we have..wait till he is 100% next year. Than say what you want, remember what is was like last year when the defense gave up how many passing yards (almost NFL Record).. and look where we are at now. I will take one bad game by revis over 16 by Biggers and day.
December 2nd, 2013 at 3:52 pm
It’s not the Revis play hindered him to injury. It has so not knocking him. It’s the kings random Dom gave up without seeing him back at 100%.
December 2nd, 2013 at 4:01 pm
@PRBucFan
Lol
December 2nd, 2013 at 4:03 pm
He’s worth every penny.
And none if it is guaranteed.
If he isn’t able to get back after he’s had a full season and off season to heal than they can go another direction.
There’s no ransom. It’s pretty simple.
December 2nd, 2013 at 4:05 pm
My sentiments exactly LUV 😉
jajaja
December 2nd, 2013 at 4:06 pm
Does anyone expect Revis to be here in 2019? That’s the average career length for a first round pick, 9.3 years. 9.3 years.
So, while, it’s great for selling tickets, and marketing “Revis Island”, is it really a smart use of a 1st round pick? That pick could have really gone to long term use, if used properly.
But, why would I expect smart from Mediocre Mark?
9.3 years.
December 2nd, 2013 at 4:07 pm
Also 9.3 years?
Mediocre Mark’s rebuild time for a playoff contender.
December 2nd, 2013 at 4:10 pm
The TRUTH is THAT REVIS has had “”A MAJOR KNEE OPERATION””…HE WILL NEVER, LET ME SAY IT AGAIN….HE WILL NEVER BE 100%…unfortunately, It is what it is. Don’t get me wrong, he still an above average corner, based on his mental approach to the game alone. He’s gonna have his good days and not so good days, that life after knee surgery; plain and simple.
But for $16mill a year?????? Nah, we could give some of that to Peanut he’s a free agent next year.
December 2nd, 2013 at 4:17 pm
Thank you Ms. Cleo your clairvoyance is astounding.
BRAVO
LoL
December 2nd, 2013 at 4:19 pm
Ok Pot …lol
December 2nd, 2013 at 4:21 pm
Wait, I meant 2021! Does anyone expect Revis here in 2021? He will be long retired by then.
December 2nd, 2013 at 4:28 pm
Ms. Cleo is a funny one
And in not sure Brooks probably not.
But I’m not looking that far ahead either.
December 2nd, 2013 at 4:53 pm
Patrick, I don’t see any CB getting $16mil/yr again though. Revis had already said that’s what he wanted, so Dom gave him that deal to look like he got the big deal he wanted. If I remember correctly, only next year is guaranteed, and Revis will be 29 by then. The remainder of the contract can be dumped, traded, or re-negotiated (where Revis will not make $16mil/yr after 30 years old). People can complain about the $16mil all they want, but the fact is, it was a very intelligently set-up deal by Dom. He knew the Bucs would have the money this year and next, and that would give them plenty of time to get a sense of Revis’ health and ability, and then determine what to do at that point.
December 2nd, 2013 at 5:06 pm
Two things:
Unfortunately, our opponents are professional athletes. It can be expected that they will occasionally make good plays. I am a big supporter of Revis. He is a gem as a player. Even the best get beat once in a while.
Secondly, will he even return next year? Is he bound to the Bucs by contract, or can he leave; I would not expect that another team would pay him $16,000,00 per annum.
December 2nd, 2013 at 6:36 pm
Revis will be fine. He’s been playing well but I expect that next year after a full off season he’ll be back to the old Revis. He was a game time decision at Carolina. Still almost had a pick. Nobody in the NFL is good enough to not get burnt occasionally.
December 2nd, 2013 at 7:05 pm
Plain and simple. He thought Ginn was going to do one thing and he did something else. The man is human. It’s the Glazers money. They have lots and I am sure they did not expect him to be perfect. I worry more about stupid coaching calls by all . DC,OC and the Head Coach. Carolina has had our number for a while.
December 2nd, 2013 at 7:12 pm
Revis’s value is more than just a shutdown CB. I’m sure he is teaching Banks and the other young CB’s on the Bucs some valuable techniques and tips on improving their play on the field and in the film room. I think he’ll be back next year, and if the Glazers are fine forking over that much of their money on Revis then that’s what matters most in the end.
December 2nd, 2013 at 9:34 pm
The stupidity of most of these comments is beyond frustrating. I mean I barely read the comment section of these stories for the simple fact the majority of you suffer from chronic knee jerk reactions after a single game.
Revis is a outstanding signing and worth every penny. Not worth $1 million a game? Why do you care is not your money. No one was complaining when he shut down every recieverhewas placed on despite still rehabbing. He’s still huhuma, it’s your own idiocracy to think the guy will never give up a catch or touchdown.
Goldson is great as well. It’s not his fault the NFL is trying to phase out his type of players. The Bucs paid for physicality and that is what they got. The mere fact that opposing QBs no longer complete many deep balls against us is tell sign he is no bust. Not to mention Barron can now be used correctly closer to the LOS as a fourth backer.
Some people are just never happy. .
December 2nd, 2013 at 9:47 pm
“Joe’s not sure King is being fair. Revis has played well this season, but has been banged up with non-knee injuries the past two weeks.”
I’m not sure anybody is being fair. McCoy has played well this season, but had little help from his fellow D linemen and was forced to stunt over and over again.
I’m just putting this out there to point out how Revis gets a pass on a burn and not being able to finish 2 games now, but GMC gets dominated in 1 game and suddenly he’s just not steppin’ it up!
C’mon, corners get burned. D-lineman get blocked. Nobody’s glossing over anything. They’re different positions. –Joe