Bucs In Prime Recruiting Position
December 30th, 2013
Will the Bucs wait for Chargers offensive coordinator and former Cardinals head coach Ken Whisenhunt?
Dear new Bucs head coach and general manager,
You can pick your quarterback.
You’ve got plenty of salary cap room, and there’s more to be found by cutting disappointing, big-money veterans like Davin Joseph.
You can even get crazy and swing a deal for Darrelle Revis and stockpile more cash to retool.
You got serious returning talent at various positions.
You get to work and play in Florida, home of no income tax and not exactly a needling, in-your-face media.
Damn, the Bucs should be able to recruit as well as any other team seeking a head coach and general manager.
Yes, the NFC South is a daunting place to land, but Tampa is still better than Cleveland or Houston or Minnesota.
Team Glazer shouldn’t be beaten in the bustling open market for leadership. They surely shouldn’t be outbid.
Team Glazer went after Bill Parcells hard in past year. They paid a massive ransom for Jon Gruden. A big-time coach and GM is what the team almost has to have in the wake of Raheem Morris and Greg Schiano.
Please, Team Glazer. Get the best money can buy. Engage in guerilla recruiting tactics. Get it done for Bucs fans.
December 30th, 2013 at 2:27 pm
“You can pick your quarterback.” Not really. Very few FAs, outside Bridgewater a bunch of projects in the draft.
“You can even get crazy and swing a deal for Darrelle Revis and stockpile more cash to retool.” ???? Nobody is paying $16 million a season for a CB except the Bucs. He’ll either be cut outright or retained, but a trade isn’t happening
“Yes, the NFC South is a daunting place to land, but Tampa is still better than Cleveland or Houston or Minnesota.” Houston is a QB away from being a Super Bowl contender, and the AFC South is a joke. Clearly the most desired job is theirs
@Bucrightoff – The new head coach will not be stuck with a QB, therefore he can pick his own. And the Bucs have the flexibility to work a deal. … Don’t be so sure there’s no market for Revis. Joe wouldn’t get rid of him, but there’s always a market for greatness. … Good luck with that instant Houston turnaround. –Joe
December 30th, 2013 at 2:33 pm
Bucrightoff…..looks like you have some Florida sand in a spot where the sun don’t shine. Smile and eat some fruit. It’s a good day in Tampa bay and joe was just pointing out the positives.
December 30th, 2013 at 2:39 pm
There will be no positives if the wrong coach is hired (i.e Lovie Smith or any defensive type coach). If Schiano was fired for another defensive coach, that would be a catastrophe and a complete waste of time/money.
And there is no market for Revis. There wasn’t a market last year either. The Bucs were the only team that was paying Revis $16 million per. Unless someone is taking him as a one year rental (i.e. trade for him and then cut him the following season), they aren’t making a trade. And in that scenario, the Bucs get maybe a 4th round pick.
And Houston already has better talent across the board than the Bucs. They almost made the Super Bowl a couple years in a row with Matt Schaub and TJ Yates. Teddy will take them to the playoffs next year, mark it down.
December 30th, 2013 at 2:41 pm
Agreed Joe, The BUCS are a very desirable place to land. Hope the Glazers are able to land the big fish this time….
December 30th, 2013 at 2:47 pm
on the Revis thing,
Considering we do not have a 3rd round pick due to him being here this year, chances are that he stays around for at least another year.
December 30th, 2013 at 2:48 pm
@bucrightoff —there was not a market for Revis last year because his injured knee was a concern coming off surgery and not tested. there will be a market for him this year because he proved he could play at a pro bowl level again.
December 30th, 2013 at 2:55 pm
I agree with BucRightOff @ Revis. Is he a premium talent? Sure he is. Did Dom & Dumber pay sticker price plus with picks and pay…you bet! He’s untradeable…Revis has all The leverage. I too would prefer an offensive minded HC.
December 30th, 2013 at 2:56 pm
No market at all. No teams are paying $16 million a season for a CB, fully healthy or not. The Bucs did because they had immense cap space and were 17 yards from worst pass defense ever. Nobody is in those same circumstances this year. Besides if teams know the Bucs want to trade Revis, it’ll be lowball city. Is a 4th rounder for Revis after what we gave up for him worth it?
He’s either staying here or getting cut. Trade is 1000% not happening.
The attraction of the trade for a new regime would be the cash free-up, not the draft pick. –Joe
December 30th, 2013 at 2:58 pm
Ol “Joe” still got Raheem on the brain. LOL!!! Fact is joe’s “rockstar” should have been called out in 2011. Instead let’s continue to throw a guy into conversation that hasn’t been here in two years… LMAO Very clownish…
December 30th, 2013 at 3:04 pm
We will not trade Revis. Not going to happen. More likely he will be cut, because it costs nothing and will free up a healthy chunk.
December 30th, 2013 at 3:08 pm
There simply isn’t a team out there that would take on Revis’ contract…and Revis’ has shown less ability to negotiate in good faith than Schiano did in making halftime adjustments ( to anything other than his nut-hugger Dockers that is ).
December 30th, 2013 at 3:08 pm
He’s not going to be cut this year either. Its not like the Bucs are in cap hell. Its also worth noting that cutting Revis leaves us where we were last year, you know, historically awful? Cutting Revis means cut and trade everyone they can and start over yet again. And then why hire a Lovie or Whisenhunt? Might as well hire an up and comer and take the lumps.
December 30th, 2013 at 3:15 pm
I’m sorry. Are we over the cap? Isn’t Revis still one of the better CB’s in the league. Are we stacked at CB?
Then what the hell is all this trade or cut Revis talk. Cut him for what? Down the road sure. But when you have a top 10 player at his position under contract you don’t cut him.
December 30th, 2013 at 3:15 pm
We already have plenty of cap space. Revis isnt going anywhere. Revis is still the best cb in the league. And it would absolutely retarded to just cut him after paying the price we did for him. Yes he isnt the new gms toy but you still dont cut him to make cap room when the team already has a ton of cap space. Freemans big contract is gone giving us a bunch of money, and if davin or carl nicks are gone (or both) we will gain all the cap space we need to do anything the new gm would want. You dont dump revis who is the best cb in the league when you have 2 other leeches playing poorly making huge bank. If anything on defense you get rid of goldson who was torched game in and game out for touchdowns.
December 30th, 2013 at 3:18 pm
Houston is easily the top spot for a coach. Bucs are still a good one though. Jay Gruden please.
December 30th, 2013 at 3:18 pm
As for Revis, I’m pretty sure most head coaches would opt to keep greatness over a few more mil in cap space – for a team that’s well under the cap!
December 30th, 2013 at 3:19 pm
Let’s stay on the reservation folks. Revis isn’t getting traded or cut. He played well returning from injury and should be better next season. This team has the cap space to sign and acquire talent without resorting to a firesale.
Davin needs to restructure for sure, or else he’ll be one of the first guys to go. Too much coin for mediocre production, injury or otherwise.
December 30th, 2013 at 3:21 pm
Mark Dominick Draft
2009- Freeman(Good(He Busted but cant blame dominick)) Miller(Good) Moore(Fail) Fulton(Fail) Biggers(Good) Stroughter(Good-Injury)
First draft was a bust but the whole 2009 class was a bust
2010 draft he got McCoy(Great) Price(Injury Fail) Benn (Injury+Fail) Lewis (Fail) M.Williams (Great) Bowden (Fail) Grimm (Good) Watson(Good) Lorig (Good)
2011 Clayborn(ok-injury) Bowers(Fail) Foster(Good) Stocker(Bad) Black(Bad) Bradford(Fail) Gaitor(Fail) Hardy(Fail)
2012 Barron (Good) Martin(Great) David(Future HOF) Goode(Fail) Tandy(Serviceable) Smith(Fail) Dunsmore(Fail)
2013 REVIS(Good) Banks(OK) Glennon (Good) Spence(Good) Gholston(Good) Means(Bad?) James(Good)
Dominick had some misses but all GMs do, and Bill Polian hit a decline towards the end of his career with the colts, I wouldnt want him.
December 30th, 2013 at 3:32 pm
I thnk the point here is that anything that needs to happen, including a trade of Revis to free up money, should happen to allow the bucs to get better. I don’t think that trading Revis is in the works or something is going to happen but IF it NEEDS to happen to get the bucs better then so be it. To argue over trade value is speculative at best and value relies on what the other party is willing to pay for. Not opinion.
December 30th, 2013 at 3:43 pm
Officially changing my name from Formerly “Brown Bag” back to Draft Marty Schottenheimer. While I don’t believe they’ll hire Marty, I hope they go for an experienced offensive-minded coach to kick this turkey in gear.
HC: M. Schottenheimer, Shanahan
DC: Butch Davis or M. Kiffin(?)
GM: Polian or Pioli
December 30th, 2013 at 3:47 pm
Quit smoking the pipe please. Why on earth would we get rid of Revis? After all this crap and a knee injury he made it to the pro bowl. BTW we only had three total. It makes no sense to get rid of one of our great players especially after what we traded to get him.
December 30th, 2013 at 3:55 pm
Do not ditch Revis. That would weaken the roster immensely. We’ve got to get out of this rebuilding mode and into some playoff contention. I am sick of this crap.
December 30th, 2013 at 3:59 pm
JOHN GRUDEN & WADE PHILLIPS !!!
(Key note about Revis)
*Apr 21 2013
Traded to Tampa Bay (TB) from New York (NYJ) for 2014 4th round pick [conditional (3rd round if on roster 3rd day of 2014 league year)] and 2013 1st round pick (#13 Sheldon Richardson) So If Revis is NOT the Roster by March 14th, that 3rd we owe the Jets turns into a 4th.
Trade Revis to #25. CINCINNATI BENGALS (They’re looking for a Corner)
December 30th, 2013 at 4:00 pm
Schiano Happens
LMAO, great screen name lol!!!
December 30th, 2013 at 4:00 pm
JON GRUDEN & WADE PHILLIPS !!!!
December 30th, 2013 at 4:06 pm
This would be a great destination for a GM/HC. It would be nice to see an offensive mind land here. Oh, the speculation!!!
Any talk of ridding Revis is foolish and should be stopped immediately! He’s a rare talent who A.) was coming off of injury and B.) wasn’t properly utilized.
December 30th, 2013 at 4:10 pm
Revis is a great player at a position of desperate need for the bucs and the Bucs have plenty of money under the cap. Revis also sells tickets. Revis isn’t going anywhere, period.
Bucs hires –
President = none other than double nickel i.e. Derrick Brooks (we need successful alma mater in here badly)
GM = Stokes possibly but doubt Glazers go with an up and comer
HC = Jay gruden or Darrell Bevell are my picks
December 30th, 2013 at 4:15 pm
@Schiano Happens
We could sign not ONE But THREE good corners, for ONE Revis.
L/R Corners
Nolan Carroll
Alterraun Verner
Slot Corner
Captain Munnerlyn
(+Plus we would get a draft pick)
December 30th, 2013 at 4:17 pm
Win and they will come. Buc garment sales
December 30th, 2013 at 4:50 pm
Bucs could sign 3 CB’s with Revis – money is not the issue
December 30th, 2013 at 4:51 pm
Is Tampa a desired destination? Chip Kelly didn’t think so, nor did Bill Parcells… a bunch of times. Post-Gruden we’ve had to settle for what we could get. Maybe Dominick’s incompetence scared off the good talent, or maybe it’s the Blazers, who knows? But I fear we’re becoming the east coast Raiders.
December 30th, 2013 at 5:18 pm
Wade Phillips runs a 3-4 defense…..
None of our players in the front 7 fit that scheme.
Bad Idea.
December 30th, 2013 at 6:10 pm
At least we didn’t have to wait around a month or so to figure out if he was going to be hired or fired. I would move quickly and bring someone in who knows what the hell they’re doing. Five teams, are looking for a head coach. There aren’t many marquee names out there.
December 30th, 2013 at 6:13 pm
I’ve been sayin darrell bevell. Hire a stern DC to keep players in check (its said that bevell is mild mannered) and we’re good
December 30th, 2013 at 6:15 pm
Wade Philips would be a horrid hire. STOP BRINGING HIS NAME UP!!
December 30th, 2013 at 6:15 pm
Wade Philips would be a horrid hire. STOP BRINGING HIS NAME UP!!
December 30th, 2013 at 6:22 pm
Jesus, will you people stop with the trade Revis crap… it ain’t happening. I know a lot of you hate the money he’s making, but right now money is not a problem for this team. We are $20 million under the cap.
December 30th, 2013 at 6:34 pm
and to the fans chasing names they recognize please stop with the pining for mediocre HC’s just because they were most relevant in the previous century (ahem Mike Shanahan)
December 30th, 2013 at 9:10 pm
i still like lovie but that’s me! my uncle lives in Arizona and was so happy when they gpt rid of whisenhunt.
December 31st, 2013 at 1:56 am
Schottenheimer and Kiffin? On the sidelines, they’d look like those two old geezers in the balcony on the Muppet Show. 143 years of life experience between them. Maybe they can swap pacemaker batteries with each other!
Whoever gets it, it will be someone with NFL coaching experience and success. No more first time NFL HCs.
Here’s to Mike Sullivan landing the HC job at West Point. Go Cadets! Beat Navy!
December 31st, 2013 at 2:20 am
Speaking of offensive minded HCs, I got curious and took a look at the Bucs offensive stats. Since ’76, the Bucs have been LAST in the NFL in offensive production five times. In 38 seasons, they have only been in the top 16 eight times. They have been 22nd or lower twenty five times! They’ve ranked in the top 10 offenses only three times.
One particularly interesting stat – in 2012, under Schiano, the Bucs finished with their HIGHEST EVER offensive rating – #9. That was followed up by ranking dead last again this year.
Chip Kelly knew what he was doing when he turned the Bucs down. Tampa has been a black hole for offense. The Doug Williams curse still lives!
December 31st, 2013 at 3:10 am
Uuummm…