What Winning Does For The Bucs
November 28th, 2013
If the Bucs decide to keep Greg Schiano and continue to win this season with Mike Glennon, does that change their draft plans?
The Bucs are winning, which, as miserable as it was during the eight-game losing streak to start the game, seemed hard to fathom.
Does the winning save Bucs commander Greg Schiano’s job? Has Mike Glennon done enough to be canonized as the next Bucs franchise quarterback? And what of the draft?
These subjects came up during “Kaufman’s Korner,” a weekly segment where the Custodian of Canton, eye-RAH! Kaufman of the Tampa Tribune, guests with the one and only Chris “Mad Dog” Russo on the show that bears his name, “Mad Dog Unleashed,” heard exclusively on SiriusXM Radio.
Chris “Mad Dog” Russo: Hey, what about Schiano? Forget about him getting fired. They’re going to give him a 10-year contract extension the way it is working out for the Buccaneers he’s done such a good job with the team.
eye-RAH! Kaufman: It is one of the all-time great resurrections. Chris, I mean, you know the conversations we were having two months ago, one month ago when they were 0-8. Look, we just got back Detroit. I am still trying to warm up after 22 degrees and high winds in Detroit. By the way, there is something wrong with the Lions, we will get into that later. It was such a bizarre game. [The Bucs] have won three in a row and that doesn’t count how they outplayed the Seahawks. With Glennon leading the way Chris, and you have been strong on Glennon from Day One, you have been strong on him. Here is my stat of the week, I always late something down on you, Chris: Last six games, Glennon has 10 touchdowns and one interception. In his last six games, Geno Smith has one touchdown and 10 interceptions.
Russo: Are the billboards down now in Tampa? It is a lovefest? They could play well down the stretch. They have Carolina and San Francisco and if they put a scare into one of those teams and play well, they are not going to fire him in Tampa, don’t you think so?
Kaufman: You are absolutely right. Everything has changed. Everything has changed because Schiano is now tied in with Glennon. If the Glazers are starting to become enamored with Glennon, and you and I think they are, why would you want to make a coaching change and hurt this guy’s development? Maybe the next coach doesn’t like Glennon? He’s not tied to Glennon. And one more thing? Instead of a top-two or top-three pick, maybe they pick sixth or seventh? So now you don’t have to start looking for Teddy Bridgewater or [Marcus] Mariota and maybe [Jadeveon] Clowney falls into their lap? Everything has changed in the last few weeks.
Seems Kaufman and Russo are thinking like Joe in a way. If Team Glazer does keep Schiano, and the window vane is pointed like that may just happen, it would be foolish to let offensive coordinator Mike Sullivan loose.
The best way to screw up a young quarterback’s head is just when he is getting an offense down, you get a new offensive coordinator with a new offense, scheme, etc., and Glennon is back to square one.
November 28th, 2013 at 4:02 pm
Happy Thanksgiving Joe! Thanks for doing what you do.
November 28th, 2013 at 4:23 pm
Today is not the day to throw cold water on a possible good idea. So I’ll just say that should events go as expected it sounds reasonable to keep the current OC. But I will throw this out there for thought – I heard Charley Casserly on WDAE (Joe can verify) give exclusive credit to Glennon’s QB coach for his steady development. I think McNulty is the QB coach. I’m sure there are other opinions!
November 28th, 2013 at 4:46 pm
First and foremost, Happy Thanksgiving to one and all!
While I agree that changing OCs would be detrimental, I’m looking at it from a different point of view. Glennon is a very smart and hard-working young man. Given an off-season to learn a new offense, I have no doubt that he would come to camp with the entire playbook in his head. *My* concern in changing OCs is the rest of the offensive players. Will they put in the extra time during the off-season, or will the new coaches have to spoon feed them through the pre-season and thus lose valuable evaluation snaps for new players?
November 28th, 2013 at 4:54 pm
LOL! Where did you find that picture Joe?
November 28th, 2013 at 5:12 pm
@Joe
Are you clueless?
Schiano would never, in a million years, draft another party guy.
He wants guys who go home at night to rest.
Greg Schiano is going to make sure that we NEVER draft another partier/diva after all of our problems from the Raheem period.
[NO SPREADING FALSE RUMORS — Joe]
We would never draft Johnny! Are you crazy!?
I just hope we can get Clowney!
Boom. Last missing piece to a Super Bowl quality defense.
Our replacement for Simeon Rice.
November 28th, 2013 at 6:14 pm
Doubtful that Clowney makes it past the Falcons (assuming they pick before us). We’d probably have to trade up ahead of them (which would cost us valuable draft picks). Even though Schiano + Dom haven’t shown success in the win-loss column over the past two seasons they have shown success working together in the draft, so I’ll trust whoever the two of them deem best as the 1st round Buccaneer man.
November 28th, 2013 at 6:16 pm
I highly doubt Manziel was a part of Schiano and Co’s early draft plans. I think its just you Joe on that one.
November 28th, 2013 at 6:53 pm
If I am Rock Star, AND I am NOT drafting a QB, I am trading down in the draft. Here is why…
I originally thought I would trade UP, just ahead of Atlanta so the Bucs could draft Clowney. This would be a double win. Obviously getting Clowney would be awesome – we NEED a DE! But keeping him away from Atlanta is the icing on the cake – I sure dont want to watch him sacking MG8 for the next 12 years. Clearly, that would be a double win. However, Washington last yr swapped their 6th overall pick to the Rams for the 2nd pk (funny that is about exactly where we would be), PLUS gave the Rams 2 add’l 1st RDs and one 2nd RD picks. NO WAY would I pay that for a non-QB position (although, the DE position is the 2nd most important position in the NFL so you can stop the OTHER QB)
In my opinion, the other players one would consider worthy for the 6th overall pick are not really “need” positions to use that pick on for the Bucs. I just don’t think we should draft that high for a WR3 position, nor do I think spending it on an OT that high is getting the right value, etc. So, trade down and get more picks, After all, remember we are short on picks in 2014 for the Revis trade.
November 28th, 2013 at 6:54 pm
btw Joe Happy Turkey day and LOVE that pick of Johnny Football!
November 28th, 2013 at 7:14 pm
@ Harry
I absolutely agree with you that we should trade down if we have the 5th or 6th pick….we can pick up an additional 2nd round pick or more and still get an impact player….perhaps Watkins or Ebron or an OT…..there will still be some really good players at 5 or 6 that should attract trade partners….
November 28th, 2013 at 8:52 pm
The Bucs WILL eventually need more than a 3rd WR. Pretty soon they will need a #1 too, VJax is not getting any younger. I want them to draft O-line and D-line. Then go after a SOLID DB in FA to line up on the other side of Revis. They will still need to get a #1 WR soon. So they better start shopping for a very good WR, and no I don’t think Mike Williams will turn into a #1.
November 28th, 2013 at 10:09 pm
No. no, no to Johny “spoiled rotten” Football. Not a Buccaneer Man. NFL bust. #TimTebow
November 28th, 2013 at 10:13 pm
Lol haven’t heard that one yet, and on an article with Johnny Boy in a Scooby Doo outfit haha. Not sure Johnny Boy is a “Buccaneer Man” Joe. Aqib Talib, Kellen Winslow, and Michael Bennett are playing well for their new teams, but they weren’t “Buccaneer Men”. Just cause Johnny Boy is good doesn’t mean every team is lining up to draft him. LeGarrette Blount went undrafted after he punched a guy in the face, he was pretty good.
November 29th, 2013 at 5:54 am
Regarding Clowney. I remember a few years ago (due to an injury) the Bucs took a DE named Bowers, who was supposed to be the top prospect in the draft. Bowers like Clowney was the real deal until his injury. I’ve watched Clowney this year and I am not convinced. We need a tight end, although Wright is coming along. Glennon will need more weapons after he puts a body of work on film.
November 29th, 2013 at 11:30 am
To date, Glennon has better stats (including YPP) that Brady, Manning, and Brees in their first year as starters. No way you draft a quarterback under these conditions. Looking for a Left tackle, another linebacker, or a defensive end. Also may look at tight ends and another cornerback. Schiano has already told the team he will be back next year.