“Poise And Patience”
November 29th, 2013
The Mike Glennon train is 100 percent out of the station.
The NFL Network “playbook” crew has gone to the film to highlight detailed, elite-level stuff from Glennon against the Lions last week.
Former New York Giants center Shaun O’Hara is all jacked up outlining Glennon steping up in traffic, as well as deftly eluding pass rushers, and throwing to Tiquan Underwood for a touchdown before Underwood was open.
The “poise and patience” of Glennon has O’Hara calling a Bucs win in Carolina on Sunday.
Sterling Sharpe, who breaks down Lavonte David (link above), also likes the Bucs. Jeremiah Trotter rounds out the playbook details with a look at Carolina, as well as an endorse me for the Panthers.
Joe’s impressed by Glennon as well, but Joe’s just not all in yet. Joe’s got to see more. These are five big games upcoming for the future of Glennon and the Bucs franchise.
November 30th, 2013 at 12:03 am
People are starting to believe in us
November 30th, 2013 at 12:17 am
“Joe’s impressed by Glennon as well, but Joe’s just not all in yet. Joe’s got to see more. These are five big games upcoming for the future of Glennon and the Bucs franchise.”
I agree and I couldn’t have said it any better myself. Whats the difference between a good starting QB and a good back up QB? a good starting QB knows when to be aggressive and take chances successfully, whereas a good backup QB plays cautiously and is pretty much a game manager. Now, Glennon for the most part has played like a game manager, BUT for the time being, that might not be such a bad thing since we are coming from a QB in Freeman whos play was was extremely erratic. I have said this before, I like Glennon and I think he can make that leap to a good starting QB, but I have to see it first. so far so good though.
November 30th, 2013 at 12:20 am
The USF offense needs some poise. My goodness. This offense sucks.
November 30th, 2013 at 12:37 am
@ PR
good to see you were reinstated lol
November 30th, 2013 at 1:01 am
This may just be a glitch in the system lol
But thanks I appreciate it 🙂
November 30th, 2013 at 1:48 am
Glennon looks to be the next Tom Brady
November 30th, 2013 at 1:49 am
Glennon is the next Tom Bradee
November 30th, 2013 at 2:02 am
“Joe’s impressed by Glennon as well, but Joe’s just not all in yet. Joe’s got to see more. These are five big games upcoming for the future of Glennon and the Bucs franchise.”
Yes Joe and believe it, or like it or not I’m on the same page as you. I may be a little further a long than you though as far as all in on Glennon. It could be a mirage, because the other F word sucked so bad the 1st 3 games and maybe I’m just so used to the other F word I’m waiting for Glennon to let me down.
It’s quite well known on site how much I and many others liked the other F word.
It’s just that I gave up on him early. Directly after the Saints game. Thanks to your site and it’s posters for making me put him under a microscope more and focus on him and him only on the field.
That being said, I don’t expect much from Glennon each and every week, but he keeps growing on me. I think the one thing that gets lost amongst us fans is that Glennon is only a 3rd rnd rookie QB. Some of us are expecting BIG things from him when we should not, he’s just a rook.
Pay close attention to his poise and ability to go through his progressions and deliver the ball. When your done with that, remember he’s only a rookie. Also throw out Kaepernick, RGIII and Wilson, for they are not drop back passers. What I mean by this is Glennon may not be flashy and highlight reel worthy, but he’s going to get the job done son.
I say this with caution:
The Bucs and fans could be looking at the next “elite” QB in the NFL for all we know right now, because he’s only rookie. So stay tuned.
November 30th, 2013 at 2:10 am
And a little post Thanksgiving thanks to Joe for re-instating PRBucFan.
PRBuc lay off the outside links for a while, huh. LOL.
The name looks much better now. ja ja ja ja ja
November 30th, 2013 at 2:13 am
Lol 😛
P.S. Freeman sucks jaja
November 30th, 2013 at 2:30 am
Again, I just still hope it all doesn’t come crashing down. We got embarrassed against the Kitties for the most part last time. People are now seriously starting to reconsider Schiano, but I guarantee you that if the Bucs go back into a nosedive and finish the season on an 0-5 mark, you will see the “Fire Schiano” chants and signs again.
With that being said I hope the Bucs beat the Thanksgiving stuffing out of Cam Newton and his Kitties. They are on a 3 game win streak, and finally beat a good team in Detroit. The Panthers are on a 7 game win streak, with a few come-from-behind victories led by the savvy Cam Newton himself. I would absolutely LOVE to see the Bucs shut his showboating a** down and maybe get a few sacks and INT’s in there to end their streak. The bigger they are the harder they fall, and if the Bucs get on a 4 game winning streak that only helps Schiano and his college of coaches more and more.
I’ve said this before, I don’t hate Schiano, I just want what’s best for my favorite team, the Buccaneers. At 0-8, Schiano didn’t seem like the man for the job with so many problems. However, doing a complete turnaround and going from 0-8 to 3-8 is not an easy thing to do, including a near-upset of the now 10-1 Seahawks in THEIR HOUSE. Russell Wilson has never lost a game in that stadium to this day, the Bucs came so close. Keep it up Schiano, I’d rather you turn the Bucs around and get them to the playoffs than get fired, but if we see another 0-8 buddy, those haters are gonna come back tenfold.
November 30th, 2013 at 2:43 am
It doesn’t matter, it doesn’t change the fact that Glennon is a trillion times better than good ole Free Free and that he’s probably our guy moving forward regardless of what happens to Schiano.
I doubt the Glazers would not at the very least give the rook another “full” season to show the NFL what he’s got once he’s had this year and another offseason under his belt. Both for gelling with his teammates and allowing the system to become second nature to him.
He would have to completely meltdown to not get at least that much. IMO
November 30th, 2013 at 3:00 am
@PR – I gotcha, but I disagree. If the Bucs lose out and Schiano gets the boot, the new coach may want a shot at his own guy. I’m not against Glennon, but he hasn’t been spectacular like Cam, Kaep, RGlll, or Wilson in their rookie years. I’d like to see him throw for 300 yards. I like Glennon going forward, but Schiano’s HC status affects Glennon nonetheless.
November 30th, 2013 at 3:02 am
@ PR
“I doubt the Glazers would not at the very least give the rook another “full” season to show the NFL what he’s got once he’s had this year and another offseason under his belt. Both for gelling with his teammates and allowing the system to become second nature to him.”
Thats what Im banking on. The more experience this guy gains, the comfortable and confident he will become. In the mean time, I hope through these 5 games he doesn’t suffer from a devastating injury, after all he is taking his fair share of shots. IF he is able to win 3 out of the next 5 games, bring everybody back for another season. These next 5 games will be HUGE IMO.
November 30th, 2013 at 3:06 am
If Glennon can beat the Streaking Stinkin Panthers that will bode well for his job security heading into next season. He’s already proved the naysayers wrong when it comes to his mobility, and gave Joe what he was asking for with some deep ball success in the Lions game. He’s been getting better and better each game.
November 30th, 2013 at 3:10 am
but at the same time, if we implode again and Schiano goes, Glennon wont get a fair shake going forward. A new coach will most likely bring in his own guy. we shall see.
November 30th, 2013 at 3:33 am
I hear ya,
I just feel that Glennon with continued progression will have played his himself into that role for our team in the owners eyes. Meaning whoever comes in here will need to at the very least give Glennon next year.
With how most of the analysts have been raving about Glennon you would think the Glazers, who are very smart people, have been taking notes.
He hasn’t been Elite but he has been solid, and we have to remember
HE IS ONLY A ROOK 😀
I am very excited
November 30th, 2013 at 3:50 am
No doubt. no matter what happens DO NOT LET THIS GUY GO. even if we do pick a QB in the first round or sign a free agent QB.
November 30th, 2013 at 5:22 am
Yet you can’t wait to hand the keys to the team over to a qb who’s done exactly zero in the league so far
November 30th, 2013 at 6:06 am
I dont exactly know what you mean. Its not up to me if a new coach takes over and decides to bring in a QB that he prefers, which is usually what happens with new coaches. try not to take yourself to seriously, I dont make the decisions.
November 30th, 2013 at 6:21 am
@Andrew 1- that comment was for Joe. Sorry for not clarifying. I don’t understand how he can say that he hadn’t seen enough to be happy with glennon but would be beside himself if we plugged manziel in who he’s seen nothing on at this level. We have a qb who us playing the position well and he’s playing it the way it’s supposed to be played. He’s not running for 100 yards but he understands the offense and he’s putting the ball where it’s supposed to be. That’s midway through year one. Let’s give him an off season to study and, with his intelligence and aptitude, he could be a Peyton Manning type that can read and diagnose plays at the line. Running qbs are fun to watch and I’ll check out a highlight reel of the things manziel did for whatever team drafted him but I’d rather have glennon hands down. And I’ll take glennon in a head to head with a Manziel team any day. You can take a running qb out of a game pretty easily. We did it to Vick all the time when he came in and was lighting the league up. Teams are doing it to Griffin, kaep and they did it to Newton until he learned how to read a defense and understand the offense. It took him the years to learn that, it took out guy
November 30th, 2013 at 6:24 am
Sorry, hit the wrong button…. It took our guy 4 games to start getting it done the right way. How can you not be pumped about the potential there. I’m sure manziel will have a statue at a&m just like tebow has in Gainesville but that doesn’t mean they’ll do anything in the pros
November 30th, 2013 at 6:32 am
@ Patrick in VA
Sorry about that. I also would much rather prefer a pocket like Glennon than a scrambling QB like Vick. Running QBs havent proven much in the league and are much more prone to injury. I got my fingers crossed for Glennon, thats for sure. If he turns out to be the real deal then we wont have to bring in another QB and can use our pick on other positions that we need.
November 30th, 2013 at 8:38 am
Glennon seems to be doing fine right now, but you never know,they may figure him out. and when they do, it will be interesting to see how he handles it.I think he is very smart,and can adjust,but its a wait and see thing right now.if anyone thinks he isnt going to have a bad game or two you have to be crazy.he is a rookie and will make some bone head mistakes,but so will/would any other rookie.the second year is when I think you find out what kind of Quarterback they are going to be.to me Glennon kind of reminds me of Brad Johnson, not Bad in my opinion.hope he does as well.I would rather us take a D.E in first round and pick up a free agent Q.B as backup.we need pass rush more than anything.would really like to see what Mc Coy can do with some help
November 30th, 2013 at 9:01 am
Again, I don’t see one QB coming out that is remotely close to a ‘sure thing’. Mariota has tanked the past month, Bridgewater is ‘meh’ if you closely watch him (i’ve watched every one of his games this year), and Johnny is exciting but I really don’t know how it translates at the next level. Now, if Manziel had Glennon’s work ethic and dedication I may feel differently about him, but that guy scares the crap out of me when he is earning his own money (rich parents) and isn’t in school anymore. Give me an offseason of Glennon working his ass off over any of those guys.
November 30th, 2013 at 9:37 am
My fellow posters
Glennon can’t be the spectacular QB you want, with the weapons he has
right now. Being a game manager is really all we can expect to accomplish
at this point. Each game he’s played well there’s no credit by some, only I’ve got to see the next game. this week playing the hottest team in the league some have to see spectacular results, those 7 teams they just beat say something about them. His improvement is being acknowledged by a lot of people outside of here. Do you think we should appreciate what we have in Glennon? No QB coming out is a guaranteed elite franchise QB, imho
We won it all with a good game manager. Thanks to all
November 30th, 2013 at 10:14 am
The pass blocking has been the best in a long time. The Buc’s have no idea what a veteran Quarterback can do with this offense,because they refuse to bring in competition to match up against Schiano, guy. Folks we have seen how young quarterback’s struggle in their second year,after defense coordinators have a full off season to view film. Do not be fool by this dink and donk offense, defense’s will catch up with him.
November 30th, 2013 at 10:29 am
First of all there’s nothing for defensive coordinators to figure out, he’s a traditional pocket passer. They’ve all seen a few of those before this year. Second, Glennon has one viable offensive skill player around him that anybody knew or cared about before the season started. He’s essentially making chicken soup out of chicken poop every week.
November 30th, 2013 at 11:51 am
I think MG8 has made some amazing throws putting the ball on a frozen rope in a super tight window to the likes of Wright and Underwood when VJax is blanketed by coverages. I really am impressed with this kid so far though his professional body of work is still in it’s infancy. It is nice with 8 losses to have something interesting to look forward to during these last probably meaningless games (as far as playoffs go). Now we may get to see the birth of a new elite QB. Who knows??? Why cant he end up with a career similiar to a Tom Brady when it is all said and done? Hopefully he will continue his trend up otherwise the pre winning streak misery will set back in. LOl I also think the quickest path to the playoffs is for MG8 to continue to have success as well as the coaching staff. I am not interested in the names or faces but just the quickest path back to the playoffs.
November 30th, 2013 at 12:26 pm
@ gotbucs – agreed. Tim Wright is playing out if his mind because he’s had a chance to work with him on the second team early this year. He makes the people he plays with better. I think that passes the Warren Sapp test.
November 30th, 2013 at 1:41 pm
what I mean about figure out is they will start playing his his habits.who he likes to go to when in trouble when he thinks he is in trouble
November 30th, 2013 at 3:04 pm
The point is that pure pocket passers don’t really have much to figure out.
They are who they are and NFL teams already have what Glennon does on tape.
If they are gonna stop him now is the best time because he’s raw.
With time he’s going to become great at what he does and he’s going to be harder to stop.
Also, he’s not a statue like Manning. The guy is elusive in the pocket. He can be pleasantly mobile if he has to and he is quick to make his decision. There is no hesitation.
November 30th, 2013 at 5:33 pm
Joes not sold on glennon because his pipe dream man crush Manziel will be available.
Joe get it though your head. Johnny football is an exciting COLLEGE football player. As an nfl stand point , the read option is being figured out and limited.
The only qb I’m taking over glennon in this draft is Bridgewater. Manziel does not go through progressions. IMO he’s Jeff Garcia. That’s not a guy you take in round 1. He will not be an nfl qb.
November 30th, 2013 at 5:39 pm
What I absolutely like about glennon is he gets through his progressions quickly. He anticipates extremely well. All this for a rookie.
I agree with previous comments. Qbs who endure sophomore slumps aren’t normally the pocket qbs. It’s usually the guys who were athletic and mobile qbs that improvised and succeeded on athletic ability. Year 2 is usually the year defenses have you contained in the pocket and they need to make the proper reads of a natural pocket passer. See VY , Cam Newton, RG III and kapernick for proof. Even Big Ben slumped a bit. (Yeah he got a ring but his defense carried him ).
Glennon is only going to get better. Look what he did against Seattle and the needle threading throws he made against that secondary.
November 30th, 2013 at 6:03 pm
Glennon is more than a game manager. His QB ratings for the month show that. He has worked his way to a top 10 QB in 8 games. I say top ten because if you look at the QB ratings and throw out the ones with less than 10 attempts Glennon comes in at 9 or 10. He’s not a gun slinger, but he’s not a game manager either. He will take whatever the defense will give him and if he sees V-Jax one on one deep he usually takes a shot and lets V-Jax make a play. He’s a smart QB with all the throws. See no reason for him not to develop into a very good QB.
December 1st, 2013 at 11:44 am
I get annoyed with BIG DOG who has ZERO knowledge claims he just checks the ball down. Watch film. He’s not afraid to hum it in there. Some of the throws he makes, against Seattle for example, he zipped it in tight coverage where only Tim Wright could catch the ball on a deep 15 yard out route. That is what has impressed.
A lot of people are comparing his rookie season to Tom Brady’s first full year as a starter (3rd year officially in the league). And they said on film, they see the same similarities, only Glennon has a stronger arm.
I always compared Mike Glennon to Matt Ryan with a stronger arm. No one believed it.