Lovin’ Mike Glennon
November 22nd, 2013
Though Joe isn’t sold — yet — on Bucs starting quarterback Mike Glennon as the signal-caller of the future for the Bucs (would love to see him rifle a few passes downfield, connecting with receivers in stride rather than throwing rainbows), wide receiver Vincent Jackson sure seems to be.
Jackson, who made a one-handed Willie Mays basket catch of a Glennon deep ball along the right sideline last week in a beatdown of the DIxie Chicks, waxed poetic about Glennon today at One Buc Palace. That’s sure to warm the cockles of the Mike Glennon Mob, led by Dave the TV Producer.
“I’ve just been so impressed with him from the start,” Jackson said of Glennon. “From the first game that he was asked to come in and take the reins of this offense. He was prepared, he did everything he needed to do in the offseason, training camp and when his number was called, he was ready. Very mature for a young man, a young quarterback, we ask him to handle a lot on his offense with the protections and the sights and making all the adjustments and he’s done it without missing a beat, so he’s only going to continue to get better and improve with experience like any quarterback would. But where he’s at right now is very impressive.
“With any position you play in this league, the more you’re out there, you’re seeing live snaps, you’re seeing defenses, getting a different look each and every week. It’s only going to help him in his experience, in kind of his catalog of understanding where he needs to go with the ball. He’s taking care of the football, that’s one of the biggest things [for] a young quarterback, not having a lot of impulse throws. If he has to eat it he’ll eat it, if he has to run with it he’ll run with it. A lot of people don’t give him credit for what he can do with his feet, but he’s made some plays outside of the pocket, throwing the ball and running the ball.”
Hhhmmm. It doesn’t take J. Edgar Hoover to read between the lines there: Jackson wasn’t much happy with leaky Rip Van Freeman, was he?
Again, Joe doesn’t know if Glennon is the long-term answer. He may be better suited for a West Coast offense, but you cannot ignore his solid completion percentage and his lack of picks. Joe can only wonder if Glennon would be that much better with better receivers. No, Jackson is fine. But Tiquan Underwood and the notorious Skye Dawson will never be confused with Mike Willams.
Joe still isn’t convinced the Bucs should pass up chance to land a certain Heisman Trophy winner who plays for some school in College Station, Tex.
November 22nd, 2013 at 5:02 pm
Leaky Rip Van Freeman?
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Freeman is gone; let it go. The coach who handled that situation badly is still here; hopefully not for long.
November 22nd, 2013 at 5:06 pm
I’m still not sold on Glennon, but I love what I hear about this kid. There’s always a new interview where a coach or player raves about his work ethic and willingness to learn. Even if all the skills may not pan out, it’s good to know he’s already developing the leadership qualities essential to the quarterback position. Glad he’s on our team!
November 22nd, 2013 at 5:07 pm
Ha I bet when VJax signed his contract it was all about Number 8 instead of number 5 :o) 8 years 88.88888 million sounds better haha.
November 22nd, 2013 at 5:08 pm
So Leslie Frazier is the next Bill Walsh?
#FreemanIsMattCassel’sBackup
November 22nd, 2013 at 5:09 pm
Enough with the Johnny Football nonsense.
If Mark Dominik and Schiano get fired you might see the new regime pick Manziel but if they are still here there isn’t a snowballs chance in hell that they pick that guy.
Not the kind of guy that they look for in “Buccaneer men”.
November 22nd, 2013 at 5:11 pm
Brace yourself. It’s a long way till May (NFL draft).
November 22nd, 2013 at 5:12 pm
@BucsFan68
Don’t you know by now that once Joe gives a guy a nickname he NEVER lets it go!
November 22nd, 2013 at 5:13 pm
“Brace yourself. It’s a long way till May (NFL draft).”
Son of a….
November 22nd, 2013 at 5:17 pm
Wake up BucsFan68… Schiano knew midway through last season that Freeman shouldn’t be starting in this league. The Glazers made him stick with “the franchise”.
Schiano and Glennon is a package deal and they’ll be here next season.
November 22nd, 2013 at 5:20 pm
Unless Mike Glennon craps the bed in the next few weeks, than we can draft a quarterback. Bridgewater is miles ahead of Jonny Football. A lot of his plays come off of improv. That won’t fly as much in the NFL. Bigger faster defense players will hit him and his small frame will be broken. Bridgewater can run….very well, but most the time he doesn’t have to because he can read defenses. Also, the plan for now should be to keep Glennon. The best qbs In this draft may not even come out. Most of then are juniors and sophomores and if they want to stay another year they can. That would make 2015 a potential powerhouse at quarterback to draft. Assuming Glennon doesn’t play well next season I would rather see us get a first round qb next year.
With that said no matter what the bucs need to draft a qb next year. What round will depend on Glennon. He plays lights out, we get a backup in the 4th or 5th. If he plays average get one in the second round(still some good ones that will be on the board. If he plays like crap, first round best qb available
November 22nd, 2013 at 5:23 pm
Dude, you keep ignoring the most obvious thing ever:
Manziel is not what Schiano wants in a QB, in more than one way. And, Schiano has Mark Dominick on a leash. There’s less than zero chance Dominick will draft Manziel.
If they draft a QB, it will be the same type as Glennon: Clean as whistle off the field, student of the game, sticks to the game plan, etc.
Just because you keep saying Manziel doesn’t make it anymore realistic than it was the time before.
Now, if it’s a new coach, anything is possible. But, I still doubt it.
November 22nd, 2013 at 5:36 pm
I would take any Jackson compliments about QB’s with a grain of salt. Last year before the season started didn’t Jackson say Freeman was a top 5 QB in the NFL? Of course he’s gonna say good things about his teammate..
It reminds me of when Deion Branch was leaving the Patriots for the first time and Tom Brady said he thought Deion Branch was the best WR in the league. Then Randy Moss came to town and caught 23(?) touchdowns while Tom threw for 50(?). Exact stats unknown but my point is, guys are going to say that about teammates and friends, they certainly aren’t going to say “yeah he’s okay”. I’m much more impressed when opposing teams give those kind of compliments.
November 22nd, 2013 at 5:37 pm
You draft one in the second if Glennon is average to bring in competition
November 22nd, 2013 at 5:46 pm
Mike Glennon’s stats through 7 starts extrapolated to a full 16 game season
3,500 Yards 62.1% Completion 25 TD and 9 INT
Joe please find the names of all QBs who threw for over 3,500 yds at a 62% or better completion rate for 25 or more TDs while maintaining a td:int ratio of 2:1 or better (2012 season). After you finish your homework, you will realize why people think your nuts. I’ll give you a hint, there were only 5 QBs to achieve this feat last year, and 4 of them are future HOFers.
November 22nd, 2013 at 5:49 pm
I like Johnny Football and all but I’m not a sucker 2 jus look at stats and run with it. Between tha offense he’s in, his progression on reads, pocket throwing, playing from under center, improvision and measurables (6’1, 210… ok really) makes it a steeper climb 2 be a successful QB in tha NFL. People compare him 2 Russell Wilson but other than his scrambling ability and improvising it’s not close. That’s not 2 say he can’t be successful at tha next level unless he’s very dedicated 2 his craft and cut back on tha partying and incidents off tha field
November 22nd, 2013 at 5:52 pm
It’s good to have VJax in the club… reserve your membership today!
Signed.
The Glennon Mob
November 22nd, 2013 at 5:55 pm
Biff if he has one more game like last week……SIGN NE UP!
November 22nd, 2013 at 6:05 pm
Gus,
I sense you are a wannabe member now!
I was a charter member of the Mob though…. and not because I had a crystal ball either, most didn’t. We simply couldn’t take any more of J Pusswah Freeman.
What I do love seeing though is the “Wasted Pick” crowd still defining Glennon’s ceiling. He’s got a way to go, but I sense he’ll get there.
J Football? My dog’s bullocks! War Giraffe!
November 22nd, 2013 at 6:05 pm
ASK YOURSELF THIS:
IF MIKE GLENNON WAS A 1ST ROUND PICK THIS YEAR.. WOULD YOU CONSIDER HIM YOUR QB OF THE FUTURE?
November 22nd, 2013 at 6:19 pm
Alexstotle Says:
ASK YOURSELF THIS:
IF MIKE GLENNON WAS A 1ST ROUND PICK THIS YEAR.. WOULD YOU CONSIDER HIM YOUR QB OF THE FUTURE?
That’s impossible to say.
Manuel and Geno were viewed as superior talents and went in the first, 29 other teams agreed thereafter that Glennon wasn’t their guy until the Bucs “wasted” the pick.
The draft is one big crapshoot, the only thing the first round does is improve the odds.
What is sad is that Glennon is defined by some as: possibly average, serviceable and a decent backup before the season ends.
November 22nd, 2013 at 6:19 pm
Alexstotle – the biggest challenge for scouts is determining whether a player’s college success will transfer to the NFL. 7 NFL games isn’t much of a sample size, but it’s better than having no NFL sample size (Manziel, Bridgewater). Consider that Manziel is playing defenses that may have just 2 NFL Caliber players on it. I would take the guy who is performing well in the NFL against 11 NFL caliber players. Isn’t Tebow the perfect example of College Success not transferring to the NFL? If a 2012 NFL redraft were held today, I don’t see Glennon making it past the 5th overall pick
November 22nd, 2013 at 6:49 pm
Alexstotle, When you draft a QB in the first round, you always consider him the QB of the future or as future trade bait.
If Glennon had been drafted in the first round, then I would STILL want a QB drafted this year in the 3rd round. Kest we forget the whole reason Glennon was drafted in the first place…to be a replacement for Dan-O. We would still need a quality backup.
But it doesn’t matter because Glennon was not a 1st round pick, he was a 3rd round pick. And he’s getting an awful lot of love for having beaten two extremely beatable teams.
Johnny Football will never be a Buccaneer as long as Schiano is coach. He is entirely NOT a Schiano man. Bridgewater is more the type he likes, and this is a once in a generation opportunity to land a QB of his caliber if it translates to the NFL.
The fools saying not to draft a QB if Glennon is average are complete idiots. Average no longer works in the NFL. Five years past? Ten years? Yes. Not now. Not with the NFL owners wishing to have high scoring games to increase excitement. The rules are being changed to make that happen.
Look at the rules changes over the last few years. Defenses are at a disadvantage and it will only get worse. It’s all about points now, and an average QB doesn’t get it done anymore.
November 22nd, 2013 at 6:53 pm
If we get Bridgewater and he does well enough to become starter, then in 2015 we have very good trade bait with Glennon. If Glennon is better but Bridgewater does very well also, we’ll have very good trade bait with Bridgewater.
We can get good DEs, OGs and OTs in the second round or later. We can get good WRs & TEs in 3rd & 4th round. We can get RBs in any round.
When you have the 1st or 2nd pick in the first round you ALWAYS get the best QB on the board. Period.
November 22nd, 2013 at 6:57 pm
Joe Says:
November 22nd, 2013 at 5:11 pm
“Enough with the Johnny Football nonsense.”
Brace yourself. It’s a long way till May (NFL draft).
HAHA. That’s what I love about this site. I hate this Manziel tomfoolery as much as anyone but love your chutzpah.
November 22nd, 2013 at 7:01 pm
Joe, you really got a man crush on Johnny Manziel don’t ya? If Glennon continues to play well, it would be a waste of a pick on Manziel, even if he is a good QB. The Bucs have other holes to fill and as of right now the biggest hole is not QB. Although our O-Line has been mysteriously playing well the past 3 games, what about the other 8 games of terrible blocking? How long will they be able to keep this up? Donald Penn and Davin Joseph will be a year older next season, and with Carl Nicks eating up money while not even playing, he will be released if he doesn’t get back on the field by next season (why is he not on IR?), especially with how Jamon Meredith is filling his shoes well. The Bucs need to beef up their O-Line, and one of Manziel’s teammates happens to be a damn good blocker.
What about DE? The Da’Quan Bowers risk didn’t pay off, and Clayborn hasn’t looked the same since before he got injured his rookie year although he is playing a little better lately. Next in line is Daniel Te’O Neshiem and then who? The Bucs need a good DE or two to complement GMC and take the edge off of him, make his job easier.
You don’t need to be a Heisman superstar, over-hyped college QB to be successful in the NFL. Look at Alex Smith, Brady was a 6th round pick, the Bucs won a SB with Brad Johnson, the Ravens won a SB with Trent Difler, Kurt Warner worked at a grocery store before coming to the NFL and making it to a couple SB’s. If Glennon was playing badly and was our reason for losing, then yeah the Bucs would NEED to draft a QB with their first pick. And I’ll be honest, I was a Freemanite, but Glennon has since shut me up and has played very well under his circumstances. Again, right now QB is not our biggest need. If Murray or Mettenberger are still there in the 2nd round, maybe draft a QB, but we got other problems, Joe. We are 2-8!
November 22nd, 2013 at 7:20 pm
Think Nick Saban believes Manziel is overrated? Or Bob Stoops?
November 22nd, 2013 at 7:21 pm
No idea if Glennon pans out, but I think 10 years ago he is a first rounder: tall, accurate, smart, good arm.
The only different today is everyone wants someone wh can run even though Brady, Manning (both), Brees, Rivers, etc… don’t and can’t.
I would rather have a smart QB who gets rid of the ball than one who runs and shortens his career.
The 1st rounders this year: Johnny Football – you can have him. Teddy – Haven’t seen him
BUT if they can move forward with Glennon and he progresses… they could use that 1st round pick for ALOT of options.
November 22nd, 2013 at 7:23 pm
Joe, you sure got a man crush on Johnny Manziel. As of right now though, QB is not our biggest need. The team is full of holes. Although the O-line is playing well right now, how long will they keep it ip? Carl Nicks is eating up the Bucs’ money, if he can’t get back to the field soon he is just taking up a roster spot, injuries suck and with Jamon Meredith filling his shoes just fine Nicks will soon be replaced IMO unless he can start playing. Davin Joseph and Donald Penn will be a year older next year, how much gas they got left?
‘Ol Johnny Boy has a teammate on his O-Line that’s pretty darn good, wouldn’t mind seeing him blocking for us.
What about DE? Risking a 2nd rounder on Da’Quan was a risk that didn’t pay off. Clayborn hasn’t looked the same since before his rookie injury. Our starting LE is Daniel Te’O Neshiem, no? We need a good DE or two to compliment GMC, and take pressure away from the outside. Actually intimidate QB’s when they come off the bus.
I’ll admit I was a Freemanite, but Glennon has since shut me up with his exceptional play considering the circumstances for him. Being thrust into a starting spot and replacing a teammate that was thrown off the team, winning two games with a banged up offense, and almost pulling off an upset against the 7-1 Seahawks if only the defense didn’t blow a 21 point lead. If he keeps playing like he has, then QB is not our biggest need, if a need at all.
You don’t have to be a superstar, Heisman-winning, over-hyped QB in college to be successful in the NFL. Look at Alex Smith, Brady was a 6th round pick, Warner was a grocery store clerk before he was a SB champion. The Bucs won a SB with Brad Johnson and the Ravens won a SB with Trent Dilfer. If Glennon can do this well with a banged up offense and an unreliable defense, imagine him with a healthy offense and an upgraded defense. Just sayin’ Joe, Manziel may turn out to be a good NFL QB, maybe not, we don’t know he hasn’t taken a snap in the NFL. But Glennon has, and with a year of experience next season as well as healthy teammates/new teammates I’d rather the Bucs use their first pick on someone they NEED. Glennon has already proven he can win games, and get out of the pocket despite criticism. The only thing people say negatively about him is his deep ball, and its not like he is throwing jump ball INT’s. Do we REALLY need Johnny Boy over an O-Lineman, DE, TE or maybe even a CB?
November 22nd, 2013 at 7:24 pm
Oops, that post came late so I re-typed it. My bad. And Joe, I said over-hyped not overrated.
November 22nd, 2013 at 7:30 pm
@joe I’m pretty sure they didn’t think Tim Tebow was overrated either and look how that turned out
November 22nd, 2013 at 7:31 pm
lol there’s nothing to “read into” VJ’s comments. first of all whats done is done, the guy is gone, Im sure the players feel the same way. second of all, could it be at all possible that VJ or anybody giving a compliment to Glennon really just be doing that? just giving an honest compliment about the person they are talking about without insinuating anything about anybody else? I think so. people tend to read and hear what they want to read and hear. as for me… I take his comments at face value.
November 22nd, 2013 at 7:33 pm
People laughed openly when that nitwit McDaniel threw away a first round draft pick on Tebow. Even more people are laughing, now. Not even the CFL wants him. LOL
Last year Manziel threw for 253 yards and two TDs against Saban. At home. With a full offseason to prepare for Manziel, Johnny Football torched Saban for 464 yards and five TDs.
Yeah, Manziel is overrated.
Your move, Timmy.
/drops mic, pours a drink.
November 22nd, 2013 at 7:33 pm
I would much rather have Brad Johnson 2.0 (Glennon) than Jeff Garcia 2.0(Jonny football
November 22nd, 2013 at 7:34 pm
Sorry about the double-post. But by over-hyped I mean I can’t turn on the TV on the weekends without hearing a broken-record story on the Great Johnny Football. Even when he lost to Bama, they were praising him. Hasn’t been like this since Tebow was a Gator, and we all know how that ended. There are other sports teams besides Texas A&M football that play on Saturday.
November 22nd, 2013 at 7:37 pm
Not a bad analogy. Any of the four is better than that dope of a No. 3 quarterback in Minnesota.
November 22nd, 2013 at 7:39 pm
Better lock yourself in a closet then… or throw away your TV. Johnny Football is about to win his second Heisman, which hasn’t happened in 40 years.
If you think Johnny Football is overhyped now, you better start stocking up on liquor right away.
November 22nd, 2013 at 7:42 pm
@Joe, what makes you so sure? Some “experts” are calling Famous Jameis the front-runner. And yeah, lol im loading up.
November 22nd, 2013 at 7:48 pm
@ Joe
Im wondering if you think any teams will take him off their draft boards and label him, as Tony Dungy puts it, DNTC ( do not draft character). and if so, then why even consider drafting a guy like that? there have been many talented players like him that dont pan out, not because of their talent, but rather their character issues.
November 22nd, 2013 at 7:49 pm
Just keep in mind, after Freeman’s rookie year the Bucs passed up on Tim Tebow, Colt McCoy, and Jimmy Clausen (ha!) to nab McCoy, because the “rockstar” believed that QB was not our biggest need. Of course, none of those QB’s have panned out, but nobody knew that back then. Just like Manziel, Tebow won a Heisman, and also won 2 national championships. All 3 QB’s had excellent college careers, McCoy had the most wins of any QB at the time. The Bucs didn’t even draft a QB in 2010. And rookie Glennon has played better than rookie Freeman, if that tells you anything.
November 22nd, 2013 at 7:51 pm
nab GERALD McCoy that is, not Colt.
November 22nd, 2013 at 7:52 pm
Yey! The man boy had a great game against Saban.
Congratulations
That says it all, he will be elite in the NFL!!!
The boy must become a man first before he can lead an entire locker room of grown men.
Not to mention Dom not Schiano would spend a second on someone whose character they have to question.
They have spent enough time ridding the locker room of said players.
November 22nd, 2013 at 7:53 pm
Dom and Schiano*
Would not*
November 22nd, 2013 at 7:54 pm
check that DNDC
November 22nd, 2013 at 7:58 pm
BuccaneerBonsai,
Still upset about Freeman? You seem to be obsessed with spending a first round pick to compete with Glennon? Funny, with all you have posted in the past, I can’t recall where you were stumping to spend a first round pick to compete with Freeman.
You said: (Sincere thanks to Ian Beckles… near verbatim)
“The fools saying not to draft a QB if Glennon is average are complete idiots. Average no longer works in the NFL. Five years past? Ten years? Yes. Not now. Not with the NFL owners wishing to have high scoring games to increase excitement. The rules are being changed to make that happen.”
Yet that fool of a film guru Greg Cossell of NFL films has been and is saying that Glennon is better than any rookie this year and RGIII because he’s a pure pocket passer. Maybe because pocket passers are what win championships? Higher scoring games are usually because you have passing and not mobile QB’s. (Flacco, Rodgers, Eli, Big Ben, cough, cough.)
Do these fools also include VJax and Penn? Both have spoken out supporting their guy as a reason for improved play. Smarts, reading coverage, protecting the ball… yada.
You also said:
“Look at the rules changes over the last few years. Defenses are at a disadvantage and it will only get worse. It’s all about points now, and an average QB doesn’t get it done anymore.”
Have you been to the future? You know Glennon’s ceiling is average? I sure don’t… nobody does. Face it dude, if you’re going to continue to parrot others like King and Beckles offer a reason why you believe they are correct.
Maybe the reason that I am schooling you so hard is that true Bucs faithful are enjoying just a few short days of optimism. There is cause. It’s been a brutal season. Others, like those you so shamelessly “borrow” from have been biased against the Bucs in the name of ratings. They have also been wrong too.
Meanwhile, try and enjoy the game Sunday.
November 22nd, 2013 at 9:04 pm
Andrew:
It is possible, though Father Dungy is hardly the guy to be talking about drafts — Dominik is a Hall of Fame manager if you compare his drafts to Dungy’s.
Let’s put it this way: Joe has done research talking to people that actually work with the draft. The lone thing that concerns teams about Manziel is his partying (“he’s a big time partyer” Joe was told). Notice he’s not a criminal. Yeah, he was arrested for petty offenses (fake ID, getting into a fight outside a bar). Please remember that the Bucs spent a first round pick on a guy who slugged a cabbie (Clayborn), who has been nothing but a model citizen since coming here.
Oddly enough, Joe asked about A.J. McCarron and was told his interviews will determine his draft slot but his biggest hangup is that people seem to think he’s a selfish guy and may not be a team guy. It didn’t dawn on Joe until a few hours later what they meant by that until Joe remembered McCarron hung Manziel out to dry at the Manning Camp when he didn’t wake up Manziel when the two went bar-hopping in New Orleans the previous evening. The two were rooming together at the Manning Camp.
November 22nd, 2013 at 9:09 pm
Clayborn slugged a cabbie? I thought that was pill popping, trigger fingered Aqib Talib?
November 22nd, 2013 at 9:21 pm
Petty or not, offenses are still offenses
Dom works with Schiano now and the man child’s character would not get him a second glance.
November 22nd, 2013 at 9:25 pm
@ Joe
wow…I didnt know the majority of that, thank you for the insight. that last part is kind of a dick move by McCarron, but whats the guy supposed to do, hold Manziel’s hand and walk him through what he should and shouldn’t do? its ultimately Manziel’s responsibility to make sure he wakes up on time. I just have a hard time trusting Manziel, if I had my choice I would probably take McCarron over Manziel. again, thank you for the insight.
November 22nd, 2013 at 9:37 pm
Or even look at it another way. Play the numbers. Know any really successful NFL QBs who were Heisman winners?
Seriously, look at the list. Plunkett?
Manziel is a fun to watch. I’m just not convinced about him in the pros. But maybe he will be like Brees. I never thought Brees would be beyond good to great, not elite. Was wrong on that one.
November 22nd, 2013 at 9:40 pm
im saying right now……..glennon is a great backup, that is all. the kid has no wow factor, i want a guy that when the def plays straight man he can take off and gain 40 yards…..thats what the nfl is goin to, Cam Newton changed the game his rookie season. Now you have to have a dual threat, there are no more bradys, brees, mannings, even luck is a dual threat guy. Rg3 is also, kapernick, russ wilson, this is the future of the nfl.. Glennon is a broke man version of drew bleadsoe. we will finish in 4th every year.. I still say we look at bridgewater/mariotta. if we dont get them i wanna see the bucs go after big ben, i would trade my whole draft this year for ben after the 1st round.. if we had clowney in the first and traded for big ben…..Pick up jermicheal finley and a decent receiver and we have a shot at a sb……also please hire stability….Lovie smith, end of story
November 22nd, 2013 at 9:59 pm
Star QB’s like Joe Montana, Joe Theismann, John Elway, Dan Marino, Troy Aikman, Brett Favre, Peyton Manning, and Tom Brady never won the Heisman Trophy. You don’t have to be a star in college to be a star in the NFL. And it works the other way around. Just because you are a star in college doesn’t mean you will be a star in the NFL. The only HoF QB I can think of that won a Heisman is Roger Staubach. Of course, that doesn’t mean if you win a Heisman you are cursed to fail at the next level, it’s just an interesting set of statistics.
November 22nd, 2013 at 10:05 pm
Joe Says:
November 22nd, 2013 at 7:20 pm
You don’t need to be a Heisman superstar, over-hyped college QB to be successful in the NFL.
Think Nick Saban believes Manziel is overrated? Or Bob Stoops?
How many nfl franchise qbs have they produced?
November 22nd, 2013 at 10:10 pm
Wake up BucsFan68… Schiano knew midway through last season that Freeman shouldn’t be starting in this league. The Glazers made him stick with “the franchise”.
Schiano and Glennon is a package deal and they’ll be here next season.
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You wake up. these last 6 games will determine that. Schiano so far has done less with more
November 22nd, 2013 at 10:15 pm
Weird, some of my comments are either delayed or don’t show up. Anyway @Oil, Roger Staubach is a Heisman winner, along with Plunkett. Other than that no other successful Heisman QB comes to mind. An interesting stat.
November 22nd, 2013 at 10:15 pm
Joe Says:
November 22nd, 2013 at 5:08 pm
The coach who handled that situation badly is still here
So Leslie Frazier is the next Bill Walsh?
#FreemanIsMattCassel’sBackup
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I never said Frazier is the next Bill Walsh. If you and others want to give Schiano a pass for the unprofessional manner in which he dealt with Freeman, that’s you all; me not so much. I hope the team does well in the next 6 games but whether Schiano and Glennon are the long term answers at HC and QB remain to be seen.
November 22nd, 2013 at 10:19 pm
Joe name me the last running/athletic qb to win a Super Bowl ?
2012- flacco: pocket passer
2011- manning: pocket passer
2010- Rodgers. Pocket passer
2009- drew Bree’s : pocket passer
2008- roethlisbuergrr : improviser but developed into a pocket qb.
2007- manning : pocket passer
2006- manning: pocket passer
2005- roethlisbuergrr : improviser (worst qb performance ever)
2004- Brady : pocket passer
2003- Brady: pocket passer
2002- brad Johnson pocket passer
These athletic/run first qbs get figured out. The read option is diminishing bc defenses are laying the wood at the qb bc they can on the read option plays.
RG III is struggling bc of if. Kapernick. Neither are good drop back passers rigt now. That’s what you need in this league. Newton struggled last year and is starting to improve that area of his game.
November 22nd, 2013 at 10:21 pm
Bucfan68 what unprofessional manner did schiano deal with freeman? Everything I saw it was freeman who was the unprofessional. His teammates spoke when not voting him captain.
November 22nd, 2013 at 10:23 pm
d-money Says:
November 22nd, 2013 at 5:12 pm
@BucsFan68
Don’t you know by now that once Joe gives a guy a nickname he NEVER lets it go!
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You’re right d-money;
November 22nd, 2013 at 10:24 pm
While we’re all basking in the Glennon love, I thought I’d point out an article I saw last night where NFL Films’ Greg Cosell claimed Glennon is a better NFL QB than RGIII. There are a few good quotes:
“Mike Glennon is so far more advanced than RGIII playing NFL quarterback that it’s not even close,” Cosell told WFHS-FM in Tampa this week. “They shouldn’t even be in the same discussion.”
Cosell describes a play where Glennon throws Underwood open with great anticipation and adds:
“That throw would not have been made by Josh Freeman. It wouldn’t have entered his mind.”
– Just some more national love for MG. I don’t want to post a link and piss Joe off (I emailed it to him last night but I guess he didn’t find it interesting; it may not be to everyone, but I think probably to some).
Anyway, I’m almost shocked by how quickly the Glennon bandwagon is filing up.
November 22nd, 2013 at 10:53 pm
biff barker Says:
November 22nd, 2013 at 5:52 pm
It’s good to have VJax in the club… reserve your membership today!
Signed.
The Glennon Mob
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Let’s see how Glennon does against the Lions, Panthers (didn’t do so good the first time), 49ers and Saints. Let’s also see how consistent Glennon is over a period of years.
November 22nd, 2013 at 10:56 pm
Nope he’s only been progressing from game to game.
He’s a rookie, couldn’t ask for much more.
November 22nd, 2013 at 10:57 pm
Chris Says:
November 22nd, 2013 at 10:21 pm
Bucfan68 what unprofessional manner did schiano deal with freeman? Everything I saw it was freeman who was the unprofessional. His teammates spoke when not voting him captain.
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1. Schiano said Freeman was the starting QB on a Mon then Wed, demoting him
2. Stating that Josh not being on the sideline and being in a suite was a mutually agreed upon decision (it wasn’t) which was a lie.
3. Smearing his name on his way out the door.
November 23rd, 2013 at 12:31 am
Mikey! Mikey! Mikey!Mikey! The Bucs are going to get it done with Mikey on Sunday. Sprinkle in a little Rainey here and there, some slant passes here and there and a few bombs to VJax or whoever.
The Bucs are going to be winnin’ with Glennon…right Couch?
November 23rd, 2013 at 12:40 am
Chris and BucsFan68….forget about that fool…the other F word that the Bucs had as a QB. F****** sucks now, will continue to suck and he started this hell that is, right out of the gate.
Let him ride the pine for the rest of season in Minny and get paid for nothing like he did in Tampa ,I hope he saves his money real good. Save your money F******.
It’s all about #8 for the rest of season. Enjoy it!
November 23rd, 2013 at 2:11 am
No he didn’t. Trust Joe, he didn’t.
November 23rd, 2013 at 2:14 am
Plank:
In college. The arsehole dropped the n-word on Clayborn. Don’t blame him one bit.
November 23rd, 2013 at 7:50 am
I agree with buc4lyfe. Seems we want to finesse the draft which normally is fine but we Bucs are too used to having a QB that we need to cross our fingers on every play. Sure Kid Glennon is doing good but I feel like some Bucs fans are too used to having this and having a HIGH competition at this QB position is unnatural for the lowly Bucs. It’s a good QB crop this year. We are bound to get a high draft choice so pull the trigger-get the best QB available . Sure it’s nice to have let’s say a Clowney but if he can’t get to the QB others may. With a QB he’s the only one that touches that ball each and every offensive play. He’s the only one that throws that ball. It still the most important position on the field. Common Tampa bay fans….it’s ok for us to be great amongst the rest And no need to settle for Murray….lower down on that list. Don’t choose him because he’s alright and he’s a “home town boy”. Go for the best…at the most important position. We may feel we are not worth it !cuz we know no better at the position but WE ARE WORTH IT……!
November 23rd, 2013 at 9:00 am
Speaking of overrated. A.J. McCarron is as overrated as they get. I don’t get why that guy is getting all the Heisman love. For me, I’m not a party person but for him to not wake up Manziel and to leave without him is a HUGE red flag. It might even take him off my board completely. If I can’t trust you, I don’t want to play with you.
November 23rd, 2013 at 1:45 pm
I like Mike “Napoleon Dynamite” Glennon, but he still lacks deep ball placement that great QB’s have. Throw the deep pass well and he’s in another category… That said, what he did against Atlanta was extra special.
November 23rd, 2013 at 3:44 pm
Get over it
Free Free sucks and he brought everything upon himself.
In life there’s consequences for your actions as I’m sure he has learned as he rides the pine behind Ponder AND Cassel. Smh lol
Btw how’s those accusations going for him?
It’s sure been peaceful at one Buc since he’s been gone.